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20 May 05 - 01:14 PM (#1489315) Subject: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,EC Fan Just heard the new CD "Rough Music". Great, as ever. Anyone else had a listen? |
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20 May 05 - 01:21 PM (#1489326) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,Another EC Fan Hi Eliza. Great CD. Didn't like the Billy Bragg song, but everything else is cool. |
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20 May 05 - 02:11 PM (#1489367) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,Allen Sister picked it up for me during a visit to England last week. Absolutely brilliant! Been playing it again, again, and again. True, the Billy Bragg cover is the weakest track, but far from bad. |
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20 May 05 - 04:03 PM (#1489480) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: MoorleyMan Another EC fan here - fellow "sufferers" might like to read the review at www.netrhythms.com/reviews.html (sorry don't know how to blue clicky it!)..... cheers M |
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20 May 05 - 05:56 PM (#1489554) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Guy Wolff Glad to hear this is out and will go get it with haste ! Make haste <><> Making haste ? . THanks for the heads up . ! Guy |
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20 May 05 - 06:48 PM (#1489583) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: greg stephens The Billy Bragg song is odd. The rest of the album is very consistent in style and attack, but the Bragg song sounds like a different band, in a different mood, in a different studio, in a different country. It's an intreesting track, but you have to change to listen to it.And asis it is number 2 on the album, it's quite a disconcerting lurch. A very interesting record...the singing of "Tom Brown", particularly the first verse, I found quite sublime. |
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20 May 05 - 06:56 PM (#1489595) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Tattie Bogle Bought it on the strength of previous experience. "The Gallant Huzzar" is the track that blows me away and is on my "must learn" list. The words and melody are in "Still Growing", songs from the Cecil Sharp collection. TB |
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21 May 05 - 02:53 AM (#1489835) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: greg stephens My copy, incidentally, has a double page missing from the insert, and another page there twice to make up. So I have the information on some songs twice, and on other songs not at all. Is this just my copy, or are they all like this? |
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21 May 05 - 03:50 AM (#1489850) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: MoorleyMan No Greg, my copy of the booklet's OK, guess yours is just a rogue. M |
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21 May 05 - 05:31 AM (#1489896) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: greg stephens In that case, Moorley Man, who is playing brass on Tom Brown? |
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21 May 05 - 09:11 AM (#1489979) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,bigJ Greg, Lorna MacDonald - bass trombone - very effective too! I see a certain Greg Stephens gets a mention on 'Cobblers Hornpipe' too, but, ironically, I suspect you won't have that page either. |
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21 May 05 - 06:10 PM (#1490269) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: greg stephens Thanks for the info, GUESTbigj. Luckily the twice-copied page contains the very touching mention you refer to... it's the page with Tom Brown (and a few other songs) that I am missing. |
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22 May 05 - 07:58 AM (#1490519) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,Temeraire Fantastic record. I enjoyed the Hussar song most, but there's lots of lovely stuff. The combination with Boden and Spiers is very rich and dark. |
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22 May 05 - 11:20 AM (#1490583) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Mrs_Annie I love it. Has been on in the car constantly for the past week. 'Mohair' has to be a strong contender for best original song at the Folk Awards. |
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22 Oct 05 - 03:36 AM (#1588243) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: greg stephens At the moment we have a new Kate Rusby CD out, plus this recent Eliza Carthy offering. Has any Mudcatter actually acquired both...or even heard both? Time for some "compare and contrast"? I cant oblige , I havent heard the Rusby one yet. |
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22 Oct 05 - 05:55 AM (#1588313) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: LesB I think it's pointless comparing Eliza with Kate, there as different as chalk & cheese, the only common denominator is that they are female! Cheers Les |
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22 Oct 05 - 06:05 AM (#1588317) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,DB Great choice of songs - particularly 'Turpin Hero' and 'Gallant Hussar'. It's all a bit over-arranged for me - I'd love to have a whole recording of EC unaccompanied and/or just accompanying herself on the fiddle (to me, a non-instrumentalist, her ability to do this is the most awesome aspect of her talent). I do tend to think that EC is a singer who is better live than on CD (which I also think is true of her Dad). |
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22 Oct 05 - 06:10 AM (#1588321) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: greg stephens here is a tendency for female singers to have a fairly arranged kind of band for accompaniment at the moment, isn't there? This year I've seen Kate Rusby, Eliza Carthy, Eddie Reader and June Tabor in action, all with rather similar kinds of bands. Not in the sense of sounding the same, particularly, just a similar sort of concept. |
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22 Oct 05 - 01:21 PM (#1588489) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Le Scaramouche Rough Music is my favourite folk album. They are good individually, but when all four get together, it's indescribable. Can't wait to hear where they take it on the next one. A comparison between Carthy and Rusby might be their northern inflection, but for my money, Eliza has a sexier voice. |
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06 Aug 06 - 10:04 AM (#1802663) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,Tim Brook Help - anyone got the lyrics for Tom Brown please |
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06 Aug 06 - 11:09 AM (#1802698) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Malcolm Douglas See South Riding Folk Arts Network News number 50 for more information on that song than you ever wanted. Eliza didn't get it directly from Frank Kidson's book or his earlier newspaper article, but that was the source used by MacColl and Seeger, from whose recording she learned it. The song is also in the DT as THE CARD SONG, in that case transcribed from a Fairport Convention record. Presumably they too got it via MacColl and Seeger. It can be found quite easily by typing a phrase into the onsite search engine: I used here's to you tom brown. |
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08 Aug 06 - 08:57 PM (#1804906) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: GUEST,Lighter Good reference, Malcolm. And it looks as though the song was a college favorite in the States a century or so ago. It appears in "Carmina Princetonia" (1898), p. 31, under the title of "A Toast." |
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08 Aug 06 - 09:22 PM (#1804931) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Malcolm Douglas That I didn't know; thanks for the reference. John Mehlburg's html transcription is a bit of a disaster, but the pdf is interesting; not least the "copyright" details! Perhaps they apply to the notation or arrangement; the words, as we know, are considerably older. |
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09 Aug 06 - 03:46 AM (#1805061) Subject: RE: 'Rough music' Eliza Carthy From: Micca There was a very spirited and rhythmic version on an Ian Campbell Folk Group album (The Circle Game, I think) also, the words were slightly different (as far as I can remember) from Elizas version. I noticed this when trying to sing along with Eliza |