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23 May 05 - 12:59 PM (#1491378) Subject: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Donuel I came across this one I call the Prius Fetus. http://chengfeng.en.alibaba.com/product/50021339/50298408/Electric_Bicycles/5000W_Electric_Bike.html I was looking to upgrade the motor power of my electric scooter and found that it is cheaper to buy a whole brand new scooter. |
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23 May 05 - 01:32 PM (#1491402) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Sorcha Bad link |
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23 May 05 - 01:43 PM (#1491409) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Bill D worked for me....pic of a little golf cart looking gadget |
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23 May 05 - 01:50 PM (#1491412) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Liz the Squeak There's a whole shop of Electric bikes in west London (just round the corner from South Ruislip tube station actually) but they don't sell anything that looks like that! LTS |
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23 May 05 - 01:56 PM (#1491419) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Donuel I have one that looks like this http://www.wjpowersports.com/eb01.html it poops out on any hill more than 10 degrees... but the bike in which I simply added a 36 volt 400 watt front hub motor is really fast |
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24 May 05 - 02:17 AM (#1491722) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: open mike this is not a bicycle it is a quadracycle the links worked fine here. |
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24 May 05 - 04:42 AM (#1491785) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Big Al Whittle that scans like while riding on a train going west - Franklin While shopping for an electRic bikE I saw a person that I did not like With great excitement I told my dog, Rover I'll jump in my car and I'll run him over |
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24 May 05 - 10:18 AM (#1491946) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Bunnahabhain Just stick with a normal bike. A thin tyre road bike is best. The design has changed so little in a century, because it works so well. |
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25 May 05 - 04:13 AM (#1492625) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: GUEST,Shanghaiceltic I have not seen this type of electric bike here in Shanghai, the two wheeled varieties are very popular, some of them look more like motor scooters than and electric one. Prices are very good too here equiv of US$220 (about 120 GBP)they have become so popular a price war has broken out. At least in Shanghai they are replacing the smelly little two stroke Piaggio copies, however in Beijing they have been banned. The reason was that the bus companies and taxi companies thought that they were being done out of revenue if people used these, so they put pressure on the Beijing Local Govt to ban them. Only it was not put that way, the official reason was that they were dangerous(?) and the govt could not decide if they were a motor vehicle or not. In other parts of China they are popular too. Each city here has the right to formulate its own regulation regarding motor vehicles which results in something being banned in one area but not another. The down side of all the electric bikes in Shanghai is that they are silent and the only warning you get as one comes along is a frantic shout of 'Wei! Wei' as they get nearer their kill zone. The riders ignore any rules of the road such as there are anyway. No licence is required to drive one, and it shows! The motors seem to be quite powerfull, though the top speed is limited to about 20 KMH I have seen ones with three people on. Dad, mum and the wee'en. |
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25 May 05 - 04:21 AM (#1492637) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Matt_R As soon as me moped's front mudguard is fixed, I'm gonna find that creep and put him down |
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25 May 05 - 07:25 AM (#1492708) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: The Fooles Troupe If you ride an electric bikle in wet weather, you may have a short journey! |
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25 May 05 - 07:39 AM (#1492720) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Bobert I didn't see any prices in the link and was a fraid to click on too many things fir fear that a Chinese salesman would show up at my front door... Are they really only $220? That sounds purdy cheap to me... Bobert |
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25 May 05 - 07:54 AM (#1492736) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: The Fooles Troupe The things that are about that price here are the 'toy things'.... They would probably be about AUD$1500 if they were available here. |
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25 May 05 - 09:48 AM (#1492817) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Donuel Yes you can get a powerful 48 v 800+ watt bike/scooter/motorcycle that will climb 26 degree hills for $270 + shipping. It has pedals for assist so having to register as a motor vehicle is easily bypassed. The tires are only 10 inches so there is a ton of torque. Uphill speeds are about 20mph but down hill is way more. There is an electric motorcycle coming out soon that goes 0-60 in 5 seconds with a 100 mile range but it will cost over $5,000. It can be found at NYCEwheels.com. |
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26 May 05 - 08:37 AM (#1493524) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Liz the Squeak It's all very well having an electric bike, but aren't you limited by how long your extension cable is? What if you want to go to the shops 1/2mile away and your cable is only 15yards? LTS |
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26 May 05 - 01:00 PM (#1493709) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: JohnInKansas Donuel - Yes you can get a powerful 48 v 800+ watt bike/scooter/motorcycle that will climb 26 degree hills Not intentionally being pedantic, but the requirement for US combat vehicles is only to climb at 30 degrees (a 60 percent slope), and regulations prohibit testing one on a slope that steep without safety devices in case they tip off (and they sometimes do). A 26 percent grade (14.6 degrees) might be believable. That's about the "side-slope" limit required by the US military for administrative vehicles. Tactical/combat vehicles are generally only required to negotiate 30 percent (16.7 degree) side-slopes, and many common autos, SUVs especially, would simply fall off of one that steep if they try to drive cross-slope. The standard US Interstate Highway System only allows a 6 percent grade (3.43 degrees), although there are fewer than a half-dozen places where exemptions were allowed, up to 8.7 percent (5 degrees) in one case I believe. The US Federal Highway system, with different standards, includes several stretches of 8+ percent (4.6 degree) runs, but they're fairly rare and generally well known - and avoided by truckers. San Francisco does claim to have a few local streets with 18 percent grades (10.2 degrees) and they're considered "scary" by people not accustomed to them. I can see, perhaps, a 26 degree capability (49% grade) in an all-out mountain bike, since the prevailing slope in the Rocky Mountains, for soil bearing areas, is about 36 to 38 percent (19.8 to 20.8 degrees), but the dirt falls off of any grade in excess of about 20 degrees. John |
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26 May 05 - 04:53 PM (#1493841) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: semi-submersible Last week we bought the twin of the red bike in Donuel's second link above. It has already started to save us car trips by helping us take our six-year-old to and from the school bus stop (now several km away - don't get me started on the offloading of public costs onto individuals or families!) Riding double is not actually legal, but the centre of gravity is so low that I feel safe doing it on our dead end road. I wouldn't dare ride with him up on a regular bike. This sedate little beauty is called a bicycle with electric assist, under law, so here in Canada no license or registration is needed. You do have to be 16 or over. One can ride up most of our local ridges by pedalling to assist the motor. I believe the stated 35+ km range is realistic, if you take it easy. When I've an extra load, or to extend my range, I run or walk beside it on steep uphill bits. I'm holding the handlebars already, so I just twist the control enough so the bike powers itself uphill (with the kid aboard) and I don't have to push it. I did once have to push the bike uphill. You see, I tackled a steep mountain trail right after a hilly 45 minute ride at full speed. Before I reached the top of the trail I was having to turn off the bike and let us both rest, then push it on up a little farther, with the bike power helping me all it could. It recharges somewhat on the downhills, but it does not freewheel fully, so is heavy to ride with pedals alone. I stopped and visited friends for an hour while getting a partial recharge before finishing the ride home. Full charge from empty costs a dime or two. The pedals are low gear only. With the wide seat, pedalling felt awkward at first but was not hard to get used to after all. It's an inexpensive, useful little machine; not for everyone, but we live at the bottom of a half mile hill, and the Scooterteq 500z makes it a lot easier for us to do errands without starting the car. Maureen |
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27 May 05 - 07:35 AM (#1494140) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Donuel There are many versions of your $3-$400 scooter, mine has 36 volts and a 240 watt motor. Most electric bikes have a 400 to 600 watt motor so a bike really outperforms these scooter variations. IF you have the 500 watt motor I'd like to know where I could buy one. Also is you tire size 16 x 2.125 or is it 18? |
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27 May 05 - 07:43 AM (#1494145) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Donuel Opps your link had all. All I need to do is switch out the controller, wheel/motor and tire and I can double the power of my 240 watt scooter that I got at Target for a little over $300. This version is exactly what I was looking for when I started this thread... Thanks Maureen. |
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28 May 05 - 05:28 AM (#1494893) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: GUEST A friend has one with a kind of dynamo effect - when you zoom downhill it powers the battery up, and then the electrics kick in for the uphill bits, or you turn on the electrics for them, not sure which. Very handy for cycling in the hilly area where she often is; she's elderly and has a large, energetic handicapped son. |
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28 May 05 - 12:56 PM (#1495019) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: podman I quote Donuel from a previous message in this thread: "There is an electric motorcycle coming out soon that goes 0-60 in 5 seconds with a 100 mile range but it will cost over $5,000. It can be found at NYCEwheels.com. " Donuel pleas provide a link to these specs as they do not sound realistic, unless you misquoted. |
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28 May 05 - 08:29 PM (#1495255) Subject: RE: BS: While shopping for an electric bike... From: Shanghaiceltic In order to extend the range here at night the locals never use their lights or indicators! just adds to the fun of driving here. I have seen some bikes even cheaper than the $220 mark but the workmanship is a bit dodgy to say the least. Many of the older Chinese bicycle companies have gone over to making them. |