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18 Jun 05 - 06:16 PM (#1503879) Subject: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: chico "This is song, called eh, Zogodrovich Dhomovan, it mean, 'In-a my country dere is problem'" |
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18 Jun 05 - 07:18 PM (#1503920) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is probl From: Bunnahabhain And one of those problems is songs like this. It's aweful, just let it die a quiet death. |
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18 Jun 05 - 08:02 PM (#1503952) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: The Fooles Troupe A song like this can be 'straight' or it can be 'ironic'. If songs like this die, then those who refuse to learn from the past mistakes of history are condemned to repeat them. |
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18 Jun 05 - 08:48 PM (#1503969) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,fiddler on the roof i'm jewish.. and i sudenly feel compelled to through my self down a well.. songs like this are dangerous.. no doubts about it..!!?? |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:06 PM (#1503978) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Malcolm Douglas You need to tell us who "Borat" and "S B Cohen" are or were; what language the song (assuming it is a song; you make no mention of any tune) was written in (and when), and why the translation (if it is a translation) is apparently so clumsy. Some small description of the situation in Kazakhstan at the time the verses were written would also be helpful; as would some reference to the ethnic group the writer belongs, or belonged, to; and why he or she might have felt ill-used by whatever Jewish population there might be, or have been, in his or her country. "Bunnahabhain" and "fiddler on the roof" (why can't people use their real names, and take responsibility for what they say?) go for the straightforward knee-jerk reaction, while "Foolestroupe", with more imagination, makes the point that the intent may perhaps be satiric. Is the semi-literate language intended to mock the supposed writer, or is it meant to be taken perfectly seriously? If you make no attempt at providing contextual information, it will be unsurprising if people assume that you are out to make trouble, or have even made the whole thing up for reasons of your own. If it's worth doing, surely it's worth doing properly, without leaving room for unnecessary misunderstandings? |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:17 PM (#1503981) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Peace That song if from a video clip entitled "Kazakhstan Cowboy". I understand it was banned in the US. S B Cohen: Found this-- "SB Cohen is a genius who graduated with honors from Cambridge Uni in England. The characters that he plays in his shows, Ali G, Borat and Bruno, are extreme caricatures that often bring out the worst in people. The show is meant as humo"u"r but also has a strong social message. Notice that the people in the bar, even though they are unaware of the joking nature of the show, actually join in and sing. i think that shows alot. I highly recommend SB Cohen, not only because his show is hilarious and highly quotable, but because of the social commentary made during the show." That is from another site in which people expressed views quite similar to those of 'catters. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:20 PM (#1503983) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,fiddler on the roof you daft fuckers have just been Ali G 'ed...!!! hha ha you dopey intellectual twats.. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:23 PM (#1503986) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Peace Up yers, GUEST fotr. Take your manners and stick them up yer arse--squeeze them in beside your head. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:26 PM (#1503987) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,TV times Sacha Baron is a rich posh boy UK jewish situationist satirical comedian.. you have been Ali G 'ed |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:30 PM (#1503988) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Peace The music threads are no place for this kind of bullshit. Put it in BS next time. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:42 PM (#1503995) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,fiddler on the roof i'm not chico let him decide where this modern wonder of a treacherous political comedy song belongs.. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:43 PM (#1503996) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Peace Maybe you're not chico, but the twist you gave this thread has NO business in the music section of the 'cat. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:46 PM (#1503997) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Malcolm Douglas Exactly so. There are plenty of genuine questions to address here without people wasting everybody's time with this sort of childish stupidity. The advice I gave about providing contextual information stands, of course; all the more so in the face of "fiddler on the roof"s little crack. Perhaps he or she will grow up one day. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:46 PM (#1503998) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,fiddler on the roor twist.. ????? not me.. blame Mr Sacha Baron Cohen.. he migrated from a successfull UK Tv show to a season winding up vain gullible yanks on your TV stations.. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:48 PM (#1503999) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Peace Malcolm is not a Yank; neither am I. Drop dead. |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:50 PM (#1504000) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST you guys might ned this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen |
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18 Jun 05 - 09:51 PM (#1504001) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST or need it |
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18 Jun 05 - 10:12 PM (#1504008) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,UK 1 - US Nil.. We Brits have Borat and Ali G you Yanks have Martin G the world will always needs court jesters to expose the Kings new clothes |
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18 Jun 05 - 10:56 PM (#1504017) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Peace You represent very few Brits I have encountered here. |
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18 Jun 05 - 11:25 PM (#1504029) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Malcolm Douglas Don't presume, "UK etc" to speak for "We Brits" (such an unpleasant term, and really quite racist), particularly if you lack the balls to use your real name. "Ned" was more to the point then "need", I thought. Ali G etc. is long played-out (I had quite forgotten about him), but I suppose that there are always people who will cling to personal favourite comedians well past their sell-by date. Just don't assume that the rest of us will remember who they were, or care. |
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18 Jun 05 - 11:31 PM (#1504032) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: GUEST,Ali G & Borat ar not funny anymore some tetchy old people on mudflaps tonight !!!! |
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19 Jun 05 - 12:04 AM (#1504037) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Malcolm Douglas Damn right there are. What's your real name, then? Are you ashamed of it? |
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19 Jun 05 - 04:22 AM (#1504130) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Le Scaramouche Frankly I found it too stupid to even bother to reply. He's a seriously unfunny comedian. |
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19 Jun 05 - 06:37 AM (#1504180) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Borat's 'In my country there is problem' From: Dave Hanson Sach Baron Cohen is about as funny as a turd in a swimming pool, what a tosser. eric |