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23 Jun 05 - 08:57 PM (#1508475) Subject: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Mr Happy tay stuck on! had to resort to sticking 'em with elastoplast/badaids. am i doing something wrong?? anyone else tried 'em?? |
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23 Jun 05 - 09:11 PM (#1508482) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Clinton Hammond I prefer licking teens patches :-P |
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24 Jun 05 - 12:43 AM (#1508618) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: mack/misophist Tried them some years ago. Them made smoking more enjoyable. Other than that, no change. Since they only put the stuff into your system, you have to do something about the physical habit itself. If the addiction isn't chemical, forget it. |
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24 Jun 05 - 01:27 AM (#1508632) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: heric If you work up a sweat, they fall right off. So NO exercise. Mack/ is right, I would sometimes find out that I had TWO of them on when lighting up. HOWEVER, the really good news is that I realized I had quit smoking when I realized, on a couple of occassions, that the darned things had fallen off ten or twelve hours before I felt the urge for a cigarette, and I hadn't even known they were gone. |
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24 Jun 05 - 02:23 AM (#1508636) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: GUEST,.gargoyle A dear friend's sister was on them.
She was watching videos with her girl-friends on a late Sat/ early Sun.
Snuck outside to the kitchen steps of her trailer, for a secret-smoke.
Was dead 30 minutes later.
NICOTINE POISONING - quite common in those trying to quit with the patch.
Sincerely, |
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24 Jun 05 - 03:07 AM (#1508646) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Clinton Hammond Nice urban myth Garg... |
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24 Jun 05 - 08:11 AM (#1508778) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: s6k nicky tin patches are more expensive than buying cigs so the conclusion to be drawn is - sod the patches and keep smoking, its cheaper |
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24 Jun 05 - 09:26 AM (#1508819) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: *daylia* It's no myth, Clinton. I've never tried them, and I never will. They are too expensive, and much too risky. (Hence the BIG warnings on every package). Haven't got time to find the clickies for you right now, but a couple minutes of exploring medical/ scientific articles online shows that nicotine substitutes can and do cause angina, heart attacks, and death - especially in light smokers like myself (less than half a pack a day), or if a quitter lights up while wearing one. On a similar note - have you ever pondered what will happen to all those trendy health-food-pristine-lifestyle-exercise-fanatics in about 40 years? There they'll be, laid out in hospital beds or nursing homes with all of us lesser mortals, dying of .... of .... well, of .... nothing?!? |
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24 Jun 05 - 10:09 AM (#1508843) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: GUEST Success rate with/without patch is same. The patch will help you through the irritability as long as you wear it. The only thing I can see is that there is an offset between how much better you will feel physically without the smokes and the irritability as you decrease the nicotine delivery from the patch. Re price, you can cut one 21mg patch into smaller pieces and not spend as much money when you start to decrease the nic delivery. There are 'side effects' and some can be dangerous. So, go take a class or get info from the various health groups and try to cut down and then quit. It ain't easy, but cold turkey is actually the best way. However, quitting cold turkey is dangerous for friends, relatives, small animals, and inanimate objects that will do whatever they can to raise your ire. Get help! Here's the real bitch about the patch... the dreams and night sweats. I HAD to take mine off about an hour before bedtime in order to sleep. I suppose you might be wondering about my success rate. Hang on while I get another cup of tea and a smoke... and stop coughing. Makes it hard to type. Good luck. |
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24 Jun 05 - 10:39 AM (#1508847) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: GUEST Basically, if you want to quit, quit. |
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24 Jun 05 - 03:54 PM (#1508931) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu No. Seek info. There's lots available and it will help. No sense reinventing the wheel. Then quit. |
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25 Jun 05 - 04:46 AM (#1509308) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Tried 'em for several weeks. No effect on the smoking, but I came up in a truly awesome blotchy rash over half my body. Yeeuucchh! Don T. |
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25 Jun 05 - 05:36 AM (#1509320) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: ejsant After smoking for three packs of Marlboro regulars a day for nearly thirty two years it was the patch and Wellbutrin that finally was enough of an aid to quit. I haven't looked back in over five years. I think being successful at quitting smoking cigarettes is more a matter of motivation than the aids used although the aids seem to offer a little more strength in resolve as immediate capitulation to the temptation can be avoided. Nothing weakens resolve more quickly that yielding to temptation. I will say though some of the dreams were rather bizarre although I'm not sure if dream activity increased or it was just a matter of an elevation in dream recall ability. Good luck. Peace, Ed |
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25 Jun 05 - 06:29 AM (#1509330) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Clinton - you are certainly not urbane - however, you ARE gaining a legendary status in stupidity. As the Irish Author wrote, "apologize, apologize, or the eagles will come and pluck out your eyes."
Vicky McC------ is definately dead. She was on the patch. She did smoke immediately before dieing.
http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/nicotine.htm#SectionTitle:9.3%20Course,%20prognosis,%20cause%20of%20death
http://www.quitnet.com/library/Guides/NRT/NRT_patch_use.jtml
http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/thepatch.htm
http://www.connectingwithkids.com/tipsheet/2003/134_jul23/patch.html
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002510.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning
Sincerely, |
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25 Jun 05 - 07:09 AM (#1509345) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu Anyone remember the TV ad with Fred Flintstone saying, after taking a great puff, "Ah, Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should."? I'd like to sue the bastard. |
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25 Jun 05 - 07:57 AM (#1509371) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: *daylia* Winstons, like most American cigarettes (not to mention beer), taste like excrement. Unless you're habituated, they are so harsh and laden with chemical additives even one puff can bring on nausea. But they're NOTHING compared to Spanish cigarettes! Try one of those, if you've got the nerve! Kinda like swallowing a flaming sword. No wonder the 'throat-clearing sound' is so vital in the Spanish language. Seems like every other word or so has it's little hork! |
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25 Jun 05 - 08:03 AM (#1509374) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu Who pissed in your cornflakes? Have a smoke and a Tim's and relax. It's Saturday. |
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25 Jun 05 - 08:20 AM (#1509376) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: *daylia* Look gnu, mind yer own Oh forget it. I'm feeling WAY too blubbery now. Like, WAY!! Gotta make my way outside for some deep breathing and some fresh air ... gotta light? |
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25 Jun 05 - 09:50 AM (#1509411) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu You keep blowing out your matches with your coughing too, eh? Tim's... nope, not me. Their tea sucks. As for coffee, haven't had a cup for years and years. Asd for Tim's coffee, I always figured all them pigeons in the parking lot were on staff to gather the old wooden stir sticks for making more coffee. As for deep fried balls of dough mixed with, injected with, and covered with every sweet substance known to mankind, putrid!!! Downright UNhealthy!!! Nosiree. When I light up in the morning and fill my lungs with acrid, toxic smoke and fumes, I prefer to soothe the smoker's polyps in my throat with a beaverage made from boiled leaves and the whitish liquid produced by the mammary glands of a large, smelly, bovine. Far more healthy. Until midday, upon whence I change out the tea for Budweiser (Canadian brewed), from an aluminum can, to flush out the caffeine. Of course, in the morning, the tea flushes out the aluminum, thereby avoiding the onset of, ah, er, Oldtimers disease... or whatever it's called. Got a light? |
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25 Jun 05 - 11:01 AM (#1509480) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: *daylia* Wow gnu, thanks for the tips! Seems you already know - and practice - everything about a healthy lifestyle you'll ever need. But I see you don't know this yet - how could I not have a light? I AM In fact, I'm a , for us all to follow... ;~) |
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25 Jun 05 - 11:05 AM (#1509488) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu Canadian Beacon? |
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25 Jun 05 - 11:09 AM (#1509492) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: *daylia* Back Beacon and Leggs. |
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25 Jun 05 - 11:11 AM (#1509497) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu Sounds.... mmmfffttt... AHEM. Nearly did. |
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25 Jun 05 - 11:17 AM (#1509500) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Amos The gum, in my exp[erience, was ap erfect replacement for smoking except that Ihe user can ramp up to greater and greater amounts of gum. I never had aproblem with patches falling off, but they didn't really work for my smoking habit. The tablets -- called "Commit" worked much better for me. I quit for two years, back slid for a couple of months and am off the smokes again, using the tablets. In my experience there are two kinds of addiction. Nicotine is the dtrongest chemical addiction. But I have found in talking to people that sopme people -- predominantly women -- are more addicted to the behaviours than the chemistry and the hardest part of quitting for them is giving up all the little behavioral triggers, like lighting up when th phone rings or when having a drink. I don't think a chemical solution will help solve a behavioral addiction. But for me, I swear by "Commit" tabs. Except that they are hard to get out of the foil packet. A |
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25 Jun 05 - 11:56 AM (#1509512) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Bat Goddess Oh, Nicky TIN -- nothing at all like nicky tams . . . |
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25 Jun 05 - 12:10 PM (#1509521) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: GUEST Gum. Noooo! That crap can cause polyps on your vocal cords and windpipe. BTW, I knew a guy who smoked four packs (100) a cigs a day for 45 years. Went to a hypotherapist... done... no withdrawl. I went too. Gotta light? |
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25 Jun 05 - 12:11 PM (#1509522) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu "nicky tams"? |
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26 Jun 05 - 10:08 AM (#1510227) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Mr Happy Nicky Tams is the name given to the string used by farm workers to tie their trousers below the knees, partly to hitch them up out of the mud. |
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26 Jun 05 - 12:19 PM (#1510319) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu Thanks. |
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27 Jun 05 - 05:09 AM (#1510815) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Mappa Mundi A Salami slice attached to your upper arm helps alleviate withdrawal pangs when becoming a vegetarian! Beer patches next! ;¬0 |
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27 Jun 05 - 06:13 AM (#1510840) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: John O'L I've been on them three weeks on Thursday and the dreams are wild. Not so the hours lying awake unable to sleep, or the depression and lack of motivation. Been a heavy smoker for thirty-odd years, and it'll be a while before I get on top of all the little signals that say NOW'S THE TIME TO LIGHT UP! But I'm pretty sure I will. I think it's the resolution that counts. The patches keep the family together, but it's the will to quit that makes you quit. At least that's what I keep telling myself. |
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27 Jun 05 - 09:06 AM (#1510918) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: Morticia patches did nothing for me....damn hard to light too. The inhalator worked better...well, way better in fact, eased down off that, onto the gum for 4 weeks...been cigarette free since Jan 1st, nicotine free for about 6 weeks.......still waiting to feel better for it though. |
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28 Jun 05 - 06:32 AM (#1511501) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: GUEST I miss my little friend |
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28 Jun 05 - 06:47 AM (#1511506) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu Hey daylia... you're going to like this one, from Times & Transcript in Moncton, today: A young black bear visited a few backyards on Waterfall Drive in Riverview yesterday. Here, the bear checks out the live trap set up by the Dept. of Natural Resources. The trap was filled with Tim Hortons muffins, bagels and doughnuts since 'Everyone loves Tim Hortons.' The bear was capatured and taken out of the town. |
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28 Jun 05 - 03:27 PM (#1511865) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: *daylia* LOL!!!! O how much Tim's can a poor bear bear? O Tasty Tim's ... O Trap extr'ordinaire! |
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28 Jun 05 - 03:53 PM (#1511878) Subject: RE: BS: Nicky Tin Patches:Who's Tried 'em? From: gnu They took pics of the young male 2 year old standing at the trap. This went on for a few days. The trap door would not trip. And, the Wardens had a gun and tranquilizers but they are using new drugs and nobody had any training as to how much drugs the bear should get. He got a shitload of donuts!!! For about three days!!! And, when the DNR trap wouldn't work, one of the neighbours tried to lasso it. I wish he would have. We need to clean the scum out of the gene pool. Finally, just after the pic in the paper of him at the door of the trap was taken, he went in and one of the guys in the neighbourhood ran at the trap. The bear saw him coming and tried to get out, but buddy DOVE like a cornerback after an interception and sprung the door shut. Ended up getting the wind knocked out of him. When he was interviewed about it he said, " Enough is enough." Ah, ya gotta live here ta get it eh? Now, why didn't Alpine beer cash in on all this free publicity. I wonder if the bear is on Tim's payroll? |