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13 Jul 05 - 10:49 PM (#1521530) Subject: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Bobert Okay, I have some time here but in a little over a month I'll be flyin' to Mephis, rentin' a car and driving way down into southern Mississippi to do some recordin' and I'd really like to have at least 3 of my guitars down there, maybe four.... I've bought my tickets from CheapFlights and I can't find anywhere in their stuff like how much stuff I can take but I know it ain't gonna' be no 4 guitars.... Anyone been here??? Like whada you did??? Bobert |
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13 Jul 05 - 11:12 PM (#1521544) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Alba What airline are travelling with Bobert? The Airline can help you out perhaps. Cheap Tickets won't. Depends on your baggage allowance and wether you want to take the Planes on Board or check them in? Love Jude |
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13 Jul 05 - 11:16 PM (#1521546) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Alba I was just thinking Bobert. If you want to, PM me. I am going to bed now but I will get back to you in the morning (if the Muddykitty is up and running). I travel with my Guitars and Mandolin a lot and with loads of diffrent Airlines both within the US and overseas. Hope I can help. Jude |
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14 Jul 05 - 07:10 AM (#1521688) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Mooh Maplepost (Cdn folk messageboard) is discussing this right now. I'm not sure how to link it up, but maybe Google will help. I don't fly, thank goodness, but my understanding from fixing instruments regularly that padded neck support on all sides is vital, and a reasonably snug fitting case. My feeling is that the strings should be loosened too, NOT because they will suddenly increase in tension so much as to do damage, but because if the neck becomes weekened through trauma the string tension hastens a break that has already started, often making it worse. Whiplash breaks are a pain to fix. Regardless of my opinion, I would see what Frank Ford at www.frets.com has to say about it. Peace, Mooh. |
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14 Jul 05 - 10:01 PM (#1522003) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Bill D Bobert...when Rita sold a guitar, we went to a music store and begged a guitar shipping box and padded it with stuff (foam and such) and it got all the way to Idaho just fine. Not sure if you have stores in easy reach there...but... |
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14 Jul 05 - 11:28 PM (#1522065) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Rapparee Carefully, Bobert. Very, very carefully. THANK YOU, REPUBLIC AIRLINES (Tom Paxton) Flying through the Michigan skies with a song in my innocent heart I placed myself in professional hands, masters of the traveler's art When I opened my guitar case, at the end of a beautiful flight I'm sure you can imagine my feelings as I beheld this beautiful sight: Thank you, Republic Airlines For breaking the neck on my guitar I arrived to do a concert with the Kingston Trio Opened my guitar case with a smile con brio Thank you, Republic Airlines What a joy to the musician you are What a zest you've added to pedestrian skies It was boring to be flying where the wild goose flies But the tedium was broken by your wonderful surprise When you broke the neck on my guitar Thank you, Republic Airlines For treating my instrument with care There can be no greater happiness for the musician Than to find his instrument in this condition Ho, ho! Republic Airlines In the firmament of travel, you're a star For you treat each piece of baggage like a child of your own When you come across an instrument it drops like a stone May you waken ev'ry morning with a new broken bone Like you broke the neck on my guitar Now I've been traveling most of my life and the thrill is a long time gone And the sight of another DC-10 just fails to turn me on But I feel my heart start pounding when I get to the baggage claim And when I see how you handled my instrument the thrill is still the same Thank you, Republic Airlines For splintering the neck on my guitar My guitar case was so strong that nothing could go through it Way to go, Republic! Only you could do it! Crash, bang! Republic Airlines In the field of demolition you'll go far For you took it as a challenge when I turned in my case And you saw the fragile stickers glued all over the place May a team of mad flamenco dancers do to your face What you did to the neck of my guitar There could be no satisfaction greater than if You should be the next to go the way of Braniff! |
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14 Jul 05 - 11:32 PM (#1522069) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Amos ANd if you have some bucks there are professionally made cases for airline travel that can fill the bill. See the threads on Air Travel with Guitars of which there are several. A |
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14 Jul 05 - 11:36 PM (#1522074) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Alba Pm sent Bobert. Hope it helps Jude |
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15 Jul 05 - 12:53 AM (#1522099) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: GUEST,leeneia Thanks, Mooh, for mentioning the need to pad the neck of the guitar. I didn't know that. I have long suspected that baggage handlers deliberately rough-house instruments, but my husband has done environmental work in the baggage-handling area at the Denver airport. He says that work is such hell that nobody has time to worry about what's an instrument or not. |
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15 Jul 05 - 10:06 AM (#1522130) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: GUEST Simple - type; shipping guitars into ant search engine |
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15 Jul 05 - 10:30 AM (#1522155) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Amos See this page for good advice. A |
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15 Jul 05 - 11:34 AM (#1522218) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: GUEST,leeneia Thanks for the link, Amos. There's a lot of good information there. |
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15 Jul 05 - 11:53 AM (#1522243) Subject: Lyr Add: Thank You Republic Airlines/Paxton From: Sorcha Rap, I've been looking for those lyrics forever! And an Add for Rapaire's post, 14 Jul 05 - 11:28 PM this thread! |
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15 Jul 05 - 12:23 PM (#1522268) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: saulgoldie And yes, Republic airlines IS, in fact, now out of business. Small consolation, though. I just talked with another passenger in the airport who had a minature Martin (that he was taking on board with him for overhead storage), and he said that he has even used one of those $800 cases that are supposed to be impervious to the most determined luggage goons, and the case showed obvious damage as if someone had done it intentionally. Perhaps they didn't, as Leenia suggests. But then again... I wish you the best of luck, Bobert. I would not fly with an instrument that I cared about, myself. Or if I HAD to, I would use the best hard-shell case I could get, and wrap it with foam, and pack it again ina larger container, and do that again for a triple wrap. And then I have heard about symphonic concert musicians who actually pay for another seat for their instrument. |
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15 Jul 05 - 12:31 PM (#1522275) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: GUEST,g Yep AMos, that is one of many - I still recommend entering 'shipping guitars' into a search engine and utilizing the ideas from several. Some use newspaper, some bubble wrap and yet othersg foam. |
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16 Jul 05 - 01:16 PM (#1522590) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Amos The state of the art in durable cases is the Calton, but they cost up to a grand and are custom built to your guitar's measurements. If you have a run-of-the-mill hard case, here is a much cheaper solution for airline travel: The Clamshell at http://www.casextreme.com/madels_pages/jumbo.htm. Regards, A |
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16 Jul 05 - 02:12 PM (#1522644) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: John MacKenzie Thing is guitar cases are a funny and unstackable sort of shape, so they always get slung on top of a pile, so are the the first to fall and have the furthest to go. HO HUM!! Giok! |
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16 Jul 05 - 02:14 PM (#1522646) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: open mike a friend has a case company.. flight form case http://www.flightform.com/ and i used one of thier protective cases to safely get my nyckelharpa to and from Sweden. the peace of mind alone was worth the effort... and the price.. good luck! there is a form you can down load from the musicians' union which gives musicians the right to carry instru- ments. http://www.afm6.org/mem_travtips.htm http://www.local802afm.org/ |
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17 Jul 05 - 09:05 AM (#1522874) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Bobert The only guitar that I want down there that is not replacable is a 1937 Dobro tenor and I'm hopin' that I can carry it on wid me??? Anyone had any luck with carry on guitars?? I'll put the other two on the UPS and everything else in one piece of luggage so I've only got one carry on: the tenor... Bobert |
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17 Jul 05 - 10:16 AM (#1522908) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Amos Carry on is hit or miss, depending on the airplane model, the fullness of the flight and the random temper of the flight crew. They may make you check it from the jetway. Your better off spending the dough for one of those bulletproof clams in my opinion. See link above. A |
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17 Jul 05 - 10:37 AM (#1522922) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Alba Bobert did you get my PM? Hope so!!! Love to you and P-Vine Jude |
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17 Jul 05 - 11:07 AM (#1522949) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: Amos Jude: What did it say? Amos |
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18 Jul 05 - 09:59 AM (#1523218) Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Guitars From: GUEST,pattyClink Bobert, where are you coming from? I would drive if there was any possible way, even to the point of renting a car. The gradual change in humidity would be better anyway. Keep them in your motel room at night of course. Extra bags, last time I flew, can cost as much as $100 apiece. Find out what the 'surcharge' is gonna be before you get a nasty surprise at check-in. One more option: ask if there are any flights (middle of the night, etc.) which tend to fly with low occupancy. If the plane is almost empty, then you can put your babies in the overhead bins while all your 'real' luggage gets checked. I actually mailed a guitar to my new address one time, it crossed 5 states in perfect condition. Of course the case had the insignia of the Air Force fellow who gave me the case, so a bunch of patriotic handlers may have given it extra respect. |