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13 Sep 05 - 07:18 PM (#1563080) Subject: BS: Sadness and cricket From: hilda fish I am feeling a little bit sad for the British this morning. There they are on the streets of London so drunk and happy, celebrating like there is no tomorrow. Poor little buggars. And over a game of cricket. And they won't even remember it tomorrow morning - too drunk and hungover. So sad that it's not us ozzies - we've been doing that crap for years and now have to find something more meaningful - and so sad that some people have nothing else in their lives or is that being a little too patronising? Ah well I'll go off and sing a little bit of "Let's not have a snivel. Let's have a bloody good cry. And always remember the longer you live, the sooner you bloody well die." |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:21 PM (#1563081) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Little Hawk Huh? What game is that? Oh, cricket... Well, whoopee doopee dooda! |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:21 PM (#1563082) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Emma B It has been a long time Hilda......... even longer for the women! |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:35 PM (#1563087) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: McGrath of Harlow I don't think it was just over a game of cricket. Quite a bit of it was Londoners being bomb-happy. Or rather, refusing to be bomb unhappy. Remember, the tibe/bus bombings of 7/7 came the day after the big celebrations for Lopndon getting the Olympics. I think part of today was "As we were saying before we were so rudely interrupted..." |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:36 PM (#1563089) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: McGrath of Harlow I don't think it was just over a game of cricket. Quite a bit of it was Londoners being bomb-happy. Or rather, refusing to be bomb unhappy. Remember, the tube/bus bombings of 7/7 came the day after the big celebrations for London getting the Olympics. I think part of today was "As we were saying before we were so rudely interrupted..." |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:37 PM (#1563090) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST,Jon Well "Freddie" seemed to have had more than a couple when I saw him interviewed earlier and I think he had well earned his celebration. For me, I was really pleased to see a world class England. |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:42 PM (#1563096) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Sorcha Dumb games. Dumber people. |
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13 Sep 05 - 07:50 PM (#1563099) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: McGrath of Harlow Quite noisy people actually. |
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13 Sep 05 - 08:13 PM (#1563107) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST I feel sorry for anyone whos life revolves around some silly ball kicking, throwing, hitting game. If they lose, they destroy property, if they win they destroy property. Why not just destroy property and forget the silly game? |
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13 Sep 05 - 08:15 PM (#1563109) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Sorcha Got it one, Guest...my feelings exactly... |
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13 Sep 05 - 08:33 PM (#1563119) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Peace Was it rugby? |
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13 Sep 05 - 08:37 PM (#1563122) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST,Jon No, that was a couple of years ago (See here) |
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13 Sep 05 - 08:53 PM (#1563129) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John O'L The English today are celebrating a remarkable sporting achievement that has evaded them for almost a generation, and it was achieved by genuine skill and commitment. (There was no Jonny Wilkinson this time.) Good luck to them. Let them have their party. We'll take the Ashes back again year after next anyway. |
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13 Sep 05 - 10:03 PM (#1563177) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: hilda fish I thought we gave it to them but there you go ....... you're right. They've all had a rough old time over there so I'll give 'em the joy of the moment. "We'll take the Ashes back again year after next anyway." |
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13 Sep 05 - 10:37 PM (#1563198) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST,Boab Don't be sad for the "british" Hilda; multitudes of us "britishers" felt a fair degreee of disgust to find the BBC "world news" on the net with the most important global event being the ENGLISH [note---!] triumph over Australia. Not kids dying in the latest military assault in Iraq, not the U'S' hurricane---a bloody insignificant victory in an insignificant minority sport! For the record, I am "british". I am NOT English.[They are the salt of the Earth, but belong in one section of the British Isles.] No offence meant here--but how would you like to be called "Hilda Haddock"? |
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14 Sep 05 - 01:51 AM (#1563259) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Manitas_at_home The thing about cricket fans is that they are still well-behaved. You're still allowed (expected!) to take beer to watch a cricket match and the nearest you get to a riot is when the West Indian fans strike up with the steel band. This latest series has been the most exciting for years and has captured the attention of people who are not usually intererested in it. As for whether it should have made "world" news or not, don't forget that we recently had several months following the trial of an aging singer - at least this was a happy event and sometimes happy events should be shown on the news. |
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14 Sep 05 - 02:33 AM (#1563265) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John O'L I agree completely Manitas. There's plenty of time & space for the serious news and an abundance of misery to fill it up. We can afford to let the headlines go for just one day with something that makes a lot of people happy. |
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14 Sep 05 - 02:37 AM (#1563267) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST Sorcha, "Dumb games. Dumber people." If you dont like it you dont have to watch it and make extremely "DUMB" comments, gain some repect. |
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14 Sep 05 - 02:46 AM (#1563269) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Gurney Well, Oz has had a VERY good run in the recent past, and when you're at the top, the only way out is down..... Manitas, the Barmy Army have ever been well behaved, and the Lions fans who recently visited us here in NZ were equally so. They drank not a few pubs dry, sang everyone hoarse, and departed (well, mostly) rather disappointed, but without any one of them being arrested for misbehavour. Policemen were pleasantly surprised. I've just watched the Ashes winners being paraded through London, on TV news. "25,000 people, and the crowd is getting thicker all the time....." |
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14 Sep 05 - 03:47 AM (#1563283) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST,Disappointed Well Sorcha I find yor sweeping and bitter statement flabberghasting. Were I to say all cops are dumb or all fiddle players are stupid it would be the quivalent of what you posted, firstly it would be a lie and secondly it would be mean spirited in the extreme. I don't know how Americans would feel if the British criticised American Football, or baseball, but I guess it would be about the same as Brits feel about your picking on their national game. I suggest you stick to making comments about things you know something about, and stop spoiling other folks joy with silly sweeping statements. Well done England cricketers both male and female! |
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14 Sep 05 - 03:56 AM (#1563288) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Dave the Gnome Does that refer to the whole population of England Sorcha or just Cricket fans? I want to know if I am to call all Americans stupid or just those that watch baseball... Cheers DtG |
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14 Sep 05 - 04:02 AM (#1563293) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST,Slim Eric Sour grapes Hilda...so your country lost...have a go at the team you lost to? |
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14 Sep 05 - 04:12 AM (#1563298) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John MacKenzie I think Hilda is being more philosophical, [having seen similar behaviour in Oz], than denigrating the actual game or the fact that England won. G.. |
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14 Sep 05 - 04:54 AM (#1563317) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Bunnahabhain a bloody insignificant victory in an insignificant minority sport Beating the best in the world is normally as significant as you get in sport. Minority sport. Hmmm. Britian, NZ, Australia, SA, West Indies= A small sport. And India, Pakistan, Bangledesh ( total Pop ~1,380 million). If it's a minority sport, I think only soccer, Golf and basketball would class as major ones. |
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14 Sep 05 - 06:59 AM (#1563374) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: kendall Careful Sorcha, stating an opinion here is like walking into a tiger cage. |
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14 Sep 05 - 07:27 AM (#1563396) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Strollin' Johnny "An insignificant minority sport". What a load of unadulterated, uneducated bollocks. The insignificant minority sports are those where competition is limited to one country, but they pretend it's a 'World Series'. Or sliding stones on a patch of ice until they stop. |
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14 Sep 05 - 08:26 AM (#1563443) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Dave Hanson A pity all you Aussie mudcatters can't be as sporting as your fine cricketers, never heard so much sour graping in my life, what a set of losers. eric |
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14 Sep 05 - 08:33 AM (#1563446) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST,Jon That's unfair Eric. I've enjoyed the Australian contributions in the test match threads and have felt there has been good spirit and sportsmanship from both sides. |
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14 Sep 05 - 08:42 AM (#1563453) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: freda underhill Australians have a very dry, ironic sense of humour - understatement is the word. woooossshhhh! (an australian joke as it flies past)... remember, to call someone an old bastard is a strong statement of affection down here. to all those pommies enjoying their win - onya! freda |
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14 Sep 05 - 09:19 AM (#1563474) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John MacKenzie Thanks Freda us Poms don't always know when you larrikins are coming the raw prawn Shiela!! Giok ¦¬] |
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14 Sep 05 - 10:44 AM (#1563524) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: GUEST "Careful Sorcha, stating an opinion here is like walking into a tiger cage." It was an opinionated insult not simply stating an opinion. |
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14 Sep 05 - 05:30 PM (#1563798) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: McGrath of Harlow In think making opinionated insults is one of the best sports there is. Put it in the Olympics, I say. |
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14 Sep 05 - 06:30 PM (#1563829) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: kendall We all know what a personal opinion is worth |
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14 Sep 05 - 06:36 PM (#1563834) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John MacKenzie No need to be bitter Kendall He he Giok |
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14 Sep 05 - 06:46 PM (#1563837) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Big Mick Congratulations to the team and its fans. All the best, Mick |
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14 Sep 05 - 07:09 PM (#1563849) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Dave the Gnome What, no noise from Sorcha? C'mon, surely one of New Yorks finest can come out with some better insults... :D |
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14 Sep 05 - 07:12 PM (#1563852) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Dave the Gnome Whoops, sorry - Wyomong. Not New York. All you Baseball fans look alike to me... :D |
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14 Sep 05 - 07:29 PM (#1563869) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: hilda fish Ahhhh........ so sorry. I meant to be good humoured in usual back-handed way. Thanks 'Giok' for getting it. It's cricket and it's fun - a game - nothing more or less. Take it as you will, there are winners and losers but all part of the game and such good sported fun to take the mickey out of each other. All part of the same team - human - ultimately - and to share a laugh as winners or losers is surely a good thing. Be kind to each other. It's a tough old world out there. |
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15 Sep 05 - 05:47 AM (#1564103) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Gurney 'It don't matter who's the loser when you meet them down the boozer, so don't worry, mates, She'll be right.' |
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15 Sep 05 - 06:27 AM (#1564116) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: Wilfried Schaum But isn't it only a game? Why all the upheaval? One year one wins, next year one looses ... |
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15 Sep 05 - 06:53 AM (#1564130) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: kendall Sports fans baffle me. |
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15 Sep 05 - 07:19 AM (#1564150) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John O'L England and Australia have a complex history and a complex relationship. Cricket is a competitive love both peoples share, and it can represent our differences and disagreements as well as our similarities and agreements. This particular series has brought out the more positive aspects of both our national personalities and, as you may have noticed, many of us have commented on what a pleasure it's been to have witnessed it together. It has been a remarkable series. I don't think there were many people at either end of the world who would have expected England to win, and to do so with almost no unpleasantness from either side, both players and supporters. I think it's a sign of the times. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems to me that your average mug-in-the-street has had enough hatred and just wants to enjoy life for a while. |
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15 Sep 05 - 08:45 AM (#1564195) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: manitas_at_work "Manitas, the Barmy Army have ever been well behaved, and the Lions fans who recently visited us here in NZ were equally so. They drank not a few pubs dry, sang everyone hoarse, and departed (well, mostly) rather disappointed, but without any one of them being arrested for misbehavour. Policemen were pleasantly surprised." They shouldn't have been - rugby crowds (of both codes) are notoriously well-behaved. I hope I didn't imply otherwise ( just checked - I'm sure I didn't) when I said cricket fans are well-behaved. Oh, and I'm not implying hockey fans are badly behaved either... |
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15 Sep 05 - 11:52 AM (#1564330) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: John MacKenzie Well I just heard on FOOC on Radio4 that expatriate England fans were celebrating uproariously in a Sydney bar, singing amongst others, to the tune of Yellow Submarine, "We all live in a penal colony" now I could understand some Sydneysiders getting annoyed at that;~) Giok |
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15 Sep 05 - 06:24 PM (#1564623) Subject: RE: BS: Sadness From: hilda fish They were, and what's more they greeted our (losing) team at Sydney airport with 'winners are grinners'!!!!!! You can't beat 'em. They were offered cups of tea which everyone thought they could handle (Barmy Army that is) as it seemed that the hop stuff made them stagger around quite a lot. Certainly couldn't play cricket with them although our losing team offered to. |