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30 Sep 05 - 06:15 PM (#1572986) Subject: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Barry Finn Does it seem rather suspicious that a 'change of regime' in Syria & Iran, brought about by the US/UK & it's weaker & allies, would give them control over the Red Sea, Arabian Sea & with allies like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, Oman, the U.A.E., it's not a big leap to gain in part, possession the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, the Persian Gulf & the Caspian Sea. Add to that our friend in need & our friend in deed, Turkey; you can then toss in the Black Sea. Now if you can see this theory as even being a remote possibility, think of the influence these nations would be able to generate over the Mediterranean & Arabian Seas. With these accomplishments I don't see that India would be able to refuse to fall into step & there goes the Indian Ocean. Australia is already sleeping with the US/UK so how does the southern Pacific look these days. Is Japan still sleeping with the enemy these days? China & India should be very afraid. Indonesia, the Philippines & some other parts of Southeast Asia will be but a tropical storm at this point & will pass over quickly. Africa will only be able to watch & continue to die & turn over all her natural resources. Now I'm not saying the sky's falling, clearly it's not & it never will. Earth & mother nature will remain (hopefully, they're pretty sick at the moment) as is but what becomes of those that will be left to live here if all this does comes to pass? Does it mean that BUSH/Blair were the 1st & 2nd most dangerous men during the 20th & 21st centuries on the planet? If any one can even see the first part of this as a remote possibility, why are these people & their partners even in these positions of power in the first place? Barry |
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30 Sep 05 - 06:50 PM (#1572999) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Bunnahabhain Now if you can see this theory as even being a remote possibility, No, I can't. Population of Iraq: 26 million Population of Iran and Syria: 86 million Regardless of you views on the current situation in Iraq, it's taking alot of troops to prevent a full scale civil war breaking out there. And that's without active opposition from other counties in the region. Clearly, invading some more places so there's more than four times as many people to keep in check is the obvious course of action at this time. China & India should be very afraid. They both have nuclear weapons we know about, with long range missiles. And each of them has a population larger than the US and EU added together. Invading them makes real sense.... |
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30 Sep 05 - 09:15 PM (#1573069) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Ebbie A slight segue here- I read a recent column by E.J. Dionne that interests me. He discusses how Bush could go about extricating himself from Iraq (It is Dionne's contention that the Bush Administration is not staying there out of any well laid plan but because they literally cannot see how they can get out without losing face and credibility (ha!). Dionne suggests that a way that the other nations would admire and go along with is to have the US declare that since the Iraqi army is doing so well, the US and its allies are going to decamp to Iraq's borders with the purpose of sealing them against infiltrators primarily from Syria and Iran and thus make the Iraqi government job easier. This would remove the US from the daily conflict and let the Iraqis feel in control of their own lives and government direction. Actually, it sounds pretty good to me. |
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30 Sep 05 - 09:54 PM (#1573096) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: GUEST ..I didn't think the Iraqi army was doing that well....can they actually keep a lid on things if the USA follows that plan? If so, then what are we waiting for? |
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01 Oct 05 - 12:23 AM (#1573160) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: CarolC They'll never leave anything to do with oil under the protection of anyone except US forces. |
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01 Oct 05 - 09:32 AM (#1573368) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Bunnahabhain I'm sorry Barry, I didn't mean to scare you away with too much common sense. I make little observations like that on lots of peoples posts, I'm not just picking on you. |
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01 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM (#1573477) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Ron Davies From what I've read, if the present Syrian government falls any time soon, the next one will likely be dominated by the Moslem Brotherhood. If Bush were then to invade, a la Iraq, it will mean more American body bags--I don't think Bush could pull that off. It's also questionable whether Congress would be so meek this time around. Even Republican majorities know what angry voters can be like--and 1994 isn't so long ago. Bush is also not in the strongest position at home these days. And a "Wag the Dog" style approach would be too obvious--and result in the whole US being full of Cindy Sheehans. |
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01 Oct 05 - 01:13 PM (#1573493) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Ebbie What I'm suggesting is that if Bush, et al, leaves the battle to the Iraqis and hies himself to the borders in the name of securing them in order to help the Iraqis' struggle, it may help Bush in his effort to extricate himself. If he did that and it worked, I'd be in favor of it. I'm no military expert but it seems likely to me that there will be - probably already is - civil war in Iraq and our presence there is not helping matters. Removing ourselves from the war we started is the least we can do. Incidentally, when I ssaid "since the Iraqi army is doing so well", I was putting words in Bush's mouths. From everything I read I certainly do not think they are doing well in any sense of the word. |
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02 Oct 05 - 06:41 AM (#1573982) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Putting words in Bush's mouths. So THAT'S what's wrong with him..... Two heads having to share the one brain cell. Must re-examine those photos of Tony Blair....could be......Hmmmnnn I'll get me coat.... Don T. |
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04 Oct 05 - 07:56 AM (#1575362) Subject: RE: BS: Hit List: Syria Iran From: Wolfgang Who's next? Iran or Korea? (old thread) Wolfgang |