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11 Oct 05 - 05:00 PM (#1581278) Subject: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: katlaughing For some recent reason my Photoshop 7.0 has quit opening for me. I get an error message about a "missing or invalid initialization" somethingorother. I looked for help on google and what I found was too technical. I tried using my System Recovery Tools Disk...that was WAY too techie. I went into change/remove programs and the 7.0 version isn't even listed, even though I KNOW it's on my hard-drive and have used it for almost two years. (It does show in Start-Programs.) JohninKS, BillD, anyone have any ideas? I need to edit some photos and can't stand the clunky programs we have which I can open. I want my 7.0 back! Thanks, non-techkat |
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11 Oct 05 - 05:04 PM (#1581279) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Clinton Hammond There should be an uninstall (man I hate that word) option in the Photoshop folder on your start menue... If not, just reinstall it right over the existing install... at the very least, that might add it back to your add/removie prog. list.... Then uninstall it... reboot... defrag and such... then reinstall Photoshop |
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11 Oct 05 - 05:12 PM (#1581290) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Bill D re-install is often what is required....I had a smaller program a couple of weeks ago that was hanging. If you have proper CD and/or serial it oughta be ok.. |
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11 Oct 05 - 05:15 PM (#1581294) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Phot This may not much help, but try re-installing the whole programme, if you have a genuine version, this should sort all the problems. Wassail! Chris PS. Save all your Raw/Tiff/jpeg files to CD monthly, then you will have a permanent hard copy archive. Which will not only keep your images safe from loss of a hard drive, but if you don't like what you did in the digital darkroom, on your hard drive, the original is always there to have a bit more fun with. Before you re-install PS7, archive all your images to disc. |
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11 Oct 05 - 07:31 PM (#1581390) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: katlaughing Well, shoot! Thanks, fellahs. I can find every CD except that, it seems. My daughter did back-up discs a while ago. I looked at them, but each one lists the same four or so files/folders?? which make no sense. I did not try to open any or them as it looked as though I could do serious damage! Chris, thanks for the reminder to backup photos to CD. We take a lot of digital ones and I haven't done that in a couple of months! Drat! kat |
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11 Oct 05 - 07:38 PM (#1581392) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: katlaughing P.S. Did just look and found I have JASC Paint Shop Pro Studio on my new Dell laptop, so I guess I can do some editing there. Another new program to learn...*mutter, mutter* tks! |
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11 Oct 05 - 07:56 PM (#1581407) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: JohnInKansas As already noted, reinstalling the program is the best way to get it back in order. If possible, uninstall, defrag, etc before reinstalling. If the program doesn't appear in Control Panel|Add/Remove Programs, Reinstalling and then Uninstalling from Control Panel is usually the surest way of getting all the Registry entries cleaned up before you do a final reinstall. If you reinstall and it still doesn't show in Control Panel|Add/Remove, there should be an "uninstall" in a Photoshop (or maybe Adobe) folder in C:\Program Files, but Adobe products usually only put a .dll there to tell Control Panel how to do it. As a last resort - after careful backup of data - you may have to just delete the Photoshop folder. Note that your installation disk may have uninstall instructions, possibly in a "readme" file; and you shouldn't have to have the program installed to browse the disk(s). A second on the recommendation that you backup - especially your graphics files - before doing major surgery on your system. And don't forget the .psd files (and .pdd if you have any), which I believe are big Photoshop's "native" format. Anything you may have saved without flattening (ie. anything with layers open) may have defaulted to a .psd, perhaps when you intended to save as something else. Photoshop is a real "memory hog," for both RAM and drive space - especially for temp space on the HD. It's possible that you've just gotten the drive it works off of too full for it to find space for it's temp files. Defrag and check whether contiguous free space looks reasonable, if you think this might be a problem. John |
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11 Oct 05 - 09:27 PM (#1581470) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: katlaughing Thanks, John. I will defrag tonight when we all hit the hay. I don't know what has happened to the disk for it...almost a year of being not totally "with it" physically and other family members running things has caused some bumps as to what happened to what, when, and where! kat |
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11 Oct 05 - 10:51 PM (#1581505) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: JohnInKansas Kat - Assuming that your installation disks are not recoverable, and depending on what your image handling requirements are, you should be aware that Photoshop 7 is not quite the latest thing. I've been quite satisfied with Photoshop Elements for about anything needed for work on photos. I've been using ver 2.0 since it was released, and haven't looked in detail at the current ver 4.0; but I wouldn't expect much in the way of major differences. Version 4.0 (Windows) is downloadable for $89.99 (US) from Adobe (512.6 MB), or you can order the CD (recommended) for $99.99 (US). [Current Mac version is still ver 3.0. I didn't check the price.] Web resellers may have slightly better prices, but usually Adobe products don't discount much. If you don't need ability to work in CMYK color space, and don't need ability to make color separation plates, many of the pros are reporting that they commonly use Elements in preference to the big package for most photo handling, even when they have both. You may see mention of "Photoshop Premier Elements" which adds video capabilities to the basic Elements but so far as I can see does nothing additional for still photos. I doubt you'd be interested in it, but check Adobe if you are. You can download the current Photoshop CS2 for $599.00 or order the CD for the same price. The download is shown as 342.1 MB so it's not a quicky. (It's 440.4 MB for Mac.) Recent reviews support the Adobe recommendation that you should get the full "Creative Suite 2" package, which includes Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, InDesign CS2, Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and stock photos. The reviews indicate that a lot of the "new" stuff is actually in Adobe Bridge, but they're vague on how much "common stuff" has been moved from the other - previously pretty much self-sufficient - programs to Bridge. The whole thing now lists at $899 (US), and you can download it (1.89 GB) or get the CDs for the same price. (It would take me at least 3 weeks to download, if I could keep my connection up full time for that long, so I think the CDs would be quicker.) Info for "just in case" you get the urge to update. I do note that there are still lots of user support sites for the numerous people still using Photoshop 3.0 and 4.0. I wasn't able to make my old 3.0 run on WinXP, but maybe I should check to see if someone's produced patches... John |
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11 Oct 05 - 11:43 PM (#1581529) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Clinton Hammond Jasic PSP beats Photoshop hands down in my book anyway... "You can download the current Photoshop CS2 for $599.00" Or you can get from behind the veil for free like everybody else does... |
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12 Oct 05 - 12:04 AM (#1581536) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Bill D PaintShopPro is what we (well, Rita) uses for serious stuff. Being who I am, I have 3-4 other *FREE* programs, 2 of which are serious products in the PSP mode. "Satori" is one. Details on request. |
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12 Oct 05 - 03:13 PM (#1581613) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: JohnInKansas Bill D - I have used a (commercial) program called PaintShopPro some years ago, and while it was "okay" then I went to one of the "bigger guys." I suspect the one you're talking about may be a spinoff of the old "for sale" thing into freeware, or perhaps is something entirely new and different. The PSP I recall was a "paint" program intended for "creating your own paintings" but not too useful for fixing up photos. That was before file types were as well standardized as now, and it also gave me a lot of problems with "proprietary file types" other than its own. The "now" PSP of course needs to be looked at as something different, but there still is a significant separation between "create" programs and "photo" programs. Many programs have some features on both sides of the line, but it's worth looking for something on the side you need. By coincidence, one of my "tech gossip" newsmails last night linked in a PCMagazine review of "freeware" that might be of interest. – or not – at Free Software: Good, For Nothing By Michael J. Steinhart, PC Magazine 09.28.05. [Please NOTE the comma in the title.] You may already be familiar with most of what they discuss, but you might get a chuckle out of what the "big guys" who have all the high priced programs think about some of the freeware. (They actually were pretty impressed.) One of the items reviewed is called PhotoPlus 6, claimed to be "close to Photoshop Elements," and free: "Software company Serif has a novel approach for attracting new customers to its latest applications: Give away the old versions. At www.serif.com you can buy 2005's PhotoPlus 10 for $80, and atwww.freeserifsoftware.com you can download 1999's PhotoPlus 6 for free. So, while PhotoPlus 6 clearly isn't the latest and greatest, it is hands-down the best free basic image editor around. Kat - Although it's "another program to learn" it might fill the gap until you can find your Photoshop Install Disks, if your other program isn't sufficient. Download is about 18 MB. I haven't tried it, but the source, PC Magazine, is generally credible. The "full review" does note a couple of idosyncrasies in PP6, so a quick look is suggested if you want to try it out. I do intend to suggest it to my poverty stricken child who found out he didn't have any imaging software a couple of days ago, but he's "on the road" and won't be back to try it out for at least a week. John |
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12 Oct 05 - 04:53 PM (#1581686) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: katlaughing Thanks, Bill and John. I am going to try PSP when I have more time and when I start using my laptop more. (Have to finish up outfitting the free 1960's Shasta 14 footer as a writing studio/retreat!) In the meantime, I have downloaded and begun to use Serif's PhotoPlus 6. It's obviously enough like PS that there's not too much of a learning curve for the basics which I need to do. Thanks, very much, John, for that review and info. You guys are all great! kat |
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13 Oct 05 - 02:48 AM (#1582020) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: JohnInKansas kat - Let us know how the PP6 works out, after you've had a chance to get friendly with it. The review does say that a lot of the "automatic fix" stuff that's in Elements isn't there - but I don't use much of that anyway. I can't rely much on the son's evaluation - assuming he gets home and turns it on. (He's an idiot - he ignored most of my recommendations when he bought his system, so that's obvious). Actually, it's just unlikely he'll have time to get into it enough to know if it will do anything, until we can get him a computer that can ride along in the semi. John |
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13 Oct 05 - 03:42 AM (#1582039) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Paul Burke Perhaps it's an old British copy of Photoshop, with Wednesday afternoon closing? |
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13 Oct 05 - 11:32 PM (#1582798) Subject: RE: Tech: Photoshop won't open From: Louie Roy Kat if you have program called emule on you Pc there is a free copy of Photo Shop 7.01 you can download and install |