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Lyr Add: I Love Little Willie

27 Nov 05 - 12:33 PM (#1614767)
Subject: Lyr Add: I LOVE LITTLE WILLIE
From: GUEST,Amy

Here is a version of Little Willie that my Mother-in-law's grandmother taught her. It was my mil's first harmonica tune (at age 11). Her grandmother's first harmonica song was a song that had just come out called "Poor Old Jesse James" ;-) Searched the DT for this Little Willie and couldn't locate it, so thought I'd add it here.

I Love Little Willie


I love little Willie, I do Ma-ma
I love little Willie, I do ha-ha
I love little Willie, but don't ya tell Papa
For he won't like it, he won't Ma-ma

Last night he kissed me, he did Ma-ma
Last night he kissed me, he did ha-ha
Last night he kissed me, but don't ya tell Papa
For he won't like it, he won't Ma-ma

He said, he would marry, he did Ma-ma
He said, he would marry, he did ha-ha
He said, he would marry, but don't ya tell Papa
Cause he will stop it, he will Ma-ma

O, now we are married, we are Ma-ma
O, now we are married, we are ha-ha
O, now we are married, an' you can tell Papa
Cause how can he help it, how can he Ma-ma


27 Nov 05 - 11:50 PM (#1615193)
Subject: I Love Little Willie
From: Joe Offer

I moved Amy's "Love Little Willie" here because it's certainly not the same song as Little Willie.

Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song:
DESCRIPTION: "I love Little Willie, I do, mama, I love Little Willie, But don't you tell Pa! For he wouldn't like it, you know, mama." Similarly: "He wrote me a letter," "He gave me a ring," "And now we are married," "We fuss and we scratch."
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1884 (Boit)
KEYWORDS: love courting marriage trick father mother
FOUND IN: Britain(England(North)) US(Ap,MW,Ro,SE,So) Canada(Ont)
REFERENCES (11 citations):
BrownIII 307, "I Love Little Willie, I Do, Mamma" (1 text plus 1 fragment, 4 excerpts, and mention of 3 more)
BrownSchinhanV 307, "I Love Little Willie, I Do, Mamma" (3 tunes plus text excerpts)
Randolph 382, "I Love Little Willie" (3 texts, 2 tunes)
MHenry-Appalachians, p. 23, "I Love Little Willie" (1 text)
Hubbard, #84, "I Love Little Willie" (1 text, 1 tune)
Boette, p. 51, "I'm Going to Get Married" (1 text, 1 tune)
Lomax-ABFS, p. 327, "I Love Little Willie" (1 text, 1 tune)
Opie-Game, p. 478 ("I want to get married, I do, mama") (1 text)
ADDITIONAL: Robert Apthorp Boit, Eustis: A Novel (Boston, 1884 ("Digitized by Google")), p. 166, ("O I have a beau, mamma, mamma") (1 text)
Mellinger E. Henry, "Still More Ballads and Folk-Songs from the Southern Highlands" in The Journal of American Folklore, Vol. XLV, No. 175 (Jan 1932 (available online by JSTOR)), #55 pp. 113-114, "I Love Little Willie" (1 text)
Leah Rachel Clara Yoffie, "Three Generations of Children's Singing Games in St. Louis" in The Journal of American Folklore, Vol. LX, No. 235 (Jan 1947 (available online by JSTOR)), #38 p. 33, ("I love little Johnny, I do, mamma") (1 text)

Roud #3538
RECORDINGS:
Mrs. Tom Sullivan, "I Love Little Willie" (on ONEFowke01)
SAME TUNE:
I Love My Union (Greenway-AFP, p. 128)
NOTES [67 words]: Yoffie includes "I love little Johnny" among a group of songs she learned in St Louis between 1895 and 1900.
Boit has a black four-year old sing this song at a Churchill County [fictional? apparently in Georgia or Alabama] school "exhibition." - BS
Roud splits off Boette's "I'm Going to Get Married" as a separate song (#7512), but the only difference I can see is that it doesn't mention Willie. - RBW
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28 Nov 05 - 05:58 PM (#1615817)
Subject: Lyr Add: I LOVE LITTLE WILLIE
From: Joe Offer

Here's the version from Lomax, American Ballads and Folk Songs (1934). Music and words from Bess Brown Lomax.

I Love Little Willie

I love little Willie, I do, Mama.
I love little Willie, tra, la, la, la.
I love little Willie, but don't tell Pa,
For he mightn't like it, Mama, Mama.

He told me he loved me, he did, Mama,
He told me he loved me, tra, la, la, la.
He told me he loved me, but don't tell Pa,
For he mightn't like it, Mama, Mama.

And now we are married, Mama, Mama.
And now we are married, tra, la, la, la.
And now we are married, now you can tell Pa,
For he's got to like it, Mama, Mama.

The tune is very familiar, but I can't tell what other words go to it. Anybody know?



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28 Nov 05 - 06:25 PM (#1615843)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: masato sakurai

The tune is "The Campbells are coming."


28 Nov 05 - 06:25 PM (#1615844)
Subject: Lyr Add: I LOVE LITTLE WILLIE (from Vance Randolph
From: Joe Offer

Thanks, Masato. I knew it was familiar.

There are three versions of the lyrics and two tunes in Randolph's Ozark Folksongs. Here's #382A

I Love Little Willie
(Randolph 382A)
contributed by Mr. Louis Goether, Hot Springs, Arkansas, March 16, 1933

I love little Willie
I do, I do,
I love little Willie
But don't you tell Paw!
For I caint help it.
How can I now, Maw?

He wrote me a letter,
He did, he did,
He wrote me a letter,
But don't you tell Paw!
For I caint help it.
How can I now, Maw?

An' now we are married,
We are, we are,
An' now we are married,
But don't you tell Paw!
For I caint help it.
How can I now, Maw?

We fuss an' we scratch,
We do, we do,
We fuss an' we scratch
But don't you tell Paw!
For I caint help it.
How can I now, Maw?


28 Nov 05 - 06:33 PM (#1615852)
Subject: ADD: He Wears a White Hat (I Love Little Willie)
From: Joe Offer

Here's Randolph #382B, from Mrs. Emma L. Dusenbury of Mena, Arkansas, November 13, 1929. Mrs. Dusenbury callis it "He Wears a White Hat." No tune available for this one.

He Wears a White Hat
(Randolph 382B)

I love somebody, I do, Mamma,
I love somebody too, ha ha ha!
But don't you tell Pa,
For I can't help it, you know, Mamma.

He's coming to see me, he is, Mamma,
He's coming to see me, ha ha ha!
But don't you tell Pa,
For I can't help it, you know, Mamma.

He wears a white hat, he does, Mamma,
He wears a white hat, ha ha ha!
But don't you tell Pa,
For I can't help it, you know, Mamma.

We're going to be married, we are, Mamma,
We're going to be married, ha ha ha!
But don't you tell Pa,
For I can't help it, you know, Mamma.

Next Thursday night it is, Mamma,
Next Thursday night, ha ha ha!
But don't you tell Pa,
For I can't help it, you know, Mamma.

Oh, now we're married, we are, Mamma,
Oh now we're married, ha ha ha!
An' you can tell pa,
For I don't care, you know, Mamma.


The tune is similar to the Lomax tune, but different enough to warrant posting.

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28 Nov 05 - 06:48 PM (#1615877)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: Joe Offer

Here's Randolph #382C, as sung by Mrs. Irene Carlisle, Fayetteville, Arkansas, February 12, 1942.

I Love Little Willie
(Randolph 282C)

I love little Willie, ha ha, mamma
I love little Willie, mamma,
I love little Willie, but don't you tell pa,
'Cause he wouldn't like it, you know, mamma.

He wrote me a letter, he did, mamma
He wrote me a letter, mamma,
He wrote me a letter, but don't you tell pa,
'Cause he wouldn't like it, you know, mamma.

He gave me a ring, he did, mamma
He gave me a ring, mamma,
He gave me a ring, but don't you tell pa,
'Cause he wouldn't like it, you know, mamma.

We're going to get married, we are, mamma
We're going to get married, mamma,
We're going to get married, but don't you tell pa,
'Cause he wouldn't like it, you know, mamma.

You must all come to see us, ha ha, mamma
You must all come to see us, mamma,
You must all come to see us, but don't you bring pa,
'Cause he wouldn't like it, you know, mamma.


The tune is quite different.



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28 Nov 05 - 07:02 PM (#1615895)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: masato sakurai

This audio recording is at The John and Ruby Lomax 1939 Southern States Recording Trip:

"I Love Little Willie"
PERFORMER(S): Mansell, Mrs. Shirley Lomax
DATE: 5/7/1939
LOCATION(S): Home of Judge & Mrs. Oscar Callaway; Callaway Ranch, near Comanche, Comanche County, Texas

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28 Nov 05 - 07:12 PM (#1615905)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: masato sakurai

From the Max Hunter collection:

I Love Little Willie
Cat. #0532 (MFH #376) - As sung by ?? Were, Fayetteville, Arkansas on July 5, 1960

I Love My Willie
Cat. #0655 (MFH #378) - As sung by Reba Dearmore, Mountain Home, Arkansas on January 7, 1969

From the Wolf collection:

I LOVE LITTLE WILLY
Sung by: Mrs. W.B. Apple
Recorded in Huff, AR 1/1/62


28 Nov 05 - 09:21 PM (#1615991)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: Big Al Whittle

How did this one work out then?

Was this a concert piece, a marital aid.......

you wouldn't believe the trouble I have getting even the most inoffensive little songs on the airwaves.

I haven't as yet written one with that title.


29 Nov 05 - 01:10 AM (#1616094)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: Joe Offer

[groan]



It's not THAT kind of song, weelittledrummer....


29 Nov 05 - 04:09 AM (#1616145)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: Paul Burke

My Mum used to sing one called "I love little pussy"....


29 Nov 05 - 04:39 AM (#1616159)
Subject: RE: ADD: I Love Little Willie
From: Big Al Whittle

well it would brighten up some of my more intimate moments, and I think it provides sound historical reasons as to why the Campbells were coming.