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how to pronounce the Welsh name Dewi

30 Nov 05 - 04:26 PM (#1617496)
Subject: how to pronounce the name welsh namDewi
From: GUEST,badgirl

can anyone breakdown the name dewi for me as i have a big debate on my hands. i have had 3 different ways of saying it. the three ways being:

Dew-ee

Dow-ee

Dar-wee

Please help me out on this asap


30 Nov 05 - 04:40 PM (#1617501)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST

A university friend who was a native Welsh speaker from Anglesey always say Dow-ee but dialect may vary from other parts of Wales.


30 Nov 05 - 05:06 PM (#1617512)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,BanjoRay

In South Wales, where I grew up, we say it a bit like 'dare we' - don't pronounce the 'r' and put the stress on the 'dare'
Ray


30 Nov 05 - 05:08 PM (#1617514)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: lady penelope

The bloke I know pronounces it Deh wee. I think he's south wales too.


30 Nov 05 - 05:13 PM (#1617520)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Jon

I lived in the North and would say Deh wee.


30 Nov 05 - 05:28 PM (#1617524)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Commander Crabbe

I also lived in the North and had a friend in school called Dewi. He (and his sister!) pronounced it Deh Wee.


30 Nov 05 - 06:14 PM (#1617564)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Liz the Squeak

Welsh speaking friend insists it's Deeyoowee. The Welsh w makes a oo sound as in pool.

LTS


30 Nov 05 - 06:36 PM (#1617578)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: TheBigPinkLad

badgirl, we'd need to know where your own accent is from in order to be precise.


30 Nov 05 - 07:16 PM (#1617617)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,BanjoRay

I've spent a lot of my life in Wales, was monoglot Welsh speaking as an infant, and I've never heard a Welsh person pronounce it Deeyoowee, Liz
Ray


01 Dec 05 - 03:56 AM (#1617870)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Paul Burke

It must depend critically on area. My Welsh friend from Anglesey pronounces "Llandeusant" with the -eu- as a diphthong of e and a sound like the German u umlaut. Other Welsh friends (from IIRC mid-Wales) pronounce the same place as -die-.


01 Dec 05 - 04:10 AM (#1617878)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Liz the Squeak

Didn't say Welsh speaking friend was sober did I?!

LTS


01 Dec 05 - 04:13 AM (#1617881)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Gervase

Here in far West Wales our local butcher's a Dewi, and he's a Deh-wee. (In fact he's a Dilwyn, but everyone calls him Dewi because that's what his dad was called).


01 Dec 05 - 04:19 AM (#1617889)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Liath

As folk have said, there are many regional variations in pronunciation!

However, _generally_, an 'e' in Cymraeg is said as 'eh' rather than 'ee'. So I would say 'Deh-wee' - with emphasis on the first syllable.


02 Dec 05 - 04:04 AM (#1618271)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,noddy

it cant be welsh. Its not got enough letters in it!


02 Dec 05 - 04:10 AM (#1618275)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Cluin

And you can't get a good enough quantity of phlegm behind it.


02 Dec 05 - 04:21 AM (#1618280)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: breezy

David


02 Dec 05 - 11:29 AM (#1618583)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: sian, west wales

DEH-wee. e = short 'e' sound, i = ee sound Emphasis on the first syllable.

Mae 'Dai' yn enw arall.
('Dai' - pr. die - is another name.)

There is very little regional variation in this, if any at all. Occasionally, I've heard names 'officially' mispronounced in areas that are heavily anglicized, like 'Hue-well' for Hywel, instead of HUH-well. But I've never heard a native Welsh person say anything but DEH-wee.

siân


02 Dec 05 - 08:02 PM (#1618977)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Bill the sound

i would say Dow ee as in Dewi Sant (St David)


05 Dec 05 - 07:47 AM (#1620310)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Liath

Me neither Sian - but thought I'd be diplomatic, lol! Agreed that it's in the Anglicised regions that you get the odd pronunciations.

Interesting how C. Zeta Jones pronounces her son Dylan's name, isn't it ;-)


05 Dec 05 - 09:47 AM (#1620385)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Ella who is Sooze

I'd say...

deh-wee (but say it fairly fast together)

too..

diolch yn fawr iawn :-)

E. W. I. S

ee-iw-is


05 Dec 05 - 10:48 AM (#1620422)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Ella who is Sooze

Liath...

How does she say Dylan then, never heard that...

Ella who is sooze


05 Dec 05 - 05:35 PM (#1620669)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST

Well I am from gwent, south wales, but the thing is my brother lives in swindon and he seen the name ina book and he has the big debate down his end as to how to prounounce Dewi and as it is a name i have not really said myself or even tried to say then i was just trying to sort a debate out and as i can't say it(sad being welsh, tho i am not a welsh speaker....even worse) then i cannot really help my brother out.

it appears that most people say it as deh-wee

cheers guys for narrowing it all down for me i will check in again for any more replys as they are all helpful to me :-)


05 Dec 05 - 06:25 PM (#1620710)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: TheBigPinkLad

dew in most of the US is pronounced the same as do in most of the UK
dew in most of the UK is pronounced the same as jew in most of the US
I'm geet posh and pronounce it dyoo in either UK or US.

So, none of this helps. How can you type a sound? It seems badgirl was just that and hasn't returned to read or reply, so let me ask if this might help: perhaps we can pick a really famous person with whose dialect everyone is familiar and put the appropriate wording into his/her mouth?

How would George Bush pronounce it, assuming he could?


06 Dec 05 - 03:18 AM (#1620958)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Ella who is Sooze

dooo eeee ah saze

doooo eeeeee aaaah leeeeesum

doooo eeeeaaaaa toooo taaaa lity ali isi umin um...

well... he does rather make up his own language and volcabulary.

:-)


06 Dec 05 - 05:30 AM (#1621005)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: breezy

Hi Sian, well If St David is Dewi Sant what is Dewi if it not another Dafydd which when shortened is Dai - die ??

One cannot phonetically say Dewi in English as proved by previos posts


06 Dec 05 - 06:31 AM (#1621021)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Ella who is Sooze

you can write anything phonetically and is, I think, (own opinion) is the way that we learn a language, learn to read, and listen.

All the 'learn a language' guidebooks write down their pronounciations phonetically in the main...

Just think of a time when you have met a person from somewhere very different to where you are from. I did recently, I asked him how he'd say thankyou in Ugandan language. He said the word and then broke it up phonetically so I could say it. There for - I think the attempts to write down Dewi phonectically - above are not half bad... and greatly depends on your own dialect of Welsh language (mine would be Southern) - excepting of course, my silly and not serious attempt to write down how Bush would say it, in it's totalitarityism :-)

E. W. I. S.


19 Jul 09 - 05:50 PM (#2683510)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,David Jones

The lady that cuts my hair is about mid 50's and is Welsh. She told me David was pronounced Die-wee, and went on to say that it was a common name and so people would refer to them by their occupation. Like Dai the Dead if he was a mortician or Dai the sweep if he was a chimney sweep.


19 Jul 09 - 07:20 PM (#2683564)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: InOBU

In Bretony it is Day wee...


20 Jul 09 - 05:24 AM (#2683730)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Phil Edwards

David - Dai (pronounced 'die') is short for Dafydd (pronounced DA-vith, near enough), which is the Welsh equivalent of David. Dewi is a different name - confusingly, it's also the Welsh equivalent of David. Specifically, St David was a Dewi, not a Dafydd.

Going back to the original question, in my experience both North and South Walians pronounce Dewi as "Deh-wee" if they're being polite and as "Dowie" if he's your mate. I've ever heard "Dar-wee", "Die-wee" or "De-yoo-wee".


20 Jul 09 - 10:09 AM (#2683850)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Anne Lister

What Pip said ...met a lot of Dewis, never heard anything but Deh-wee as the usual pronunciation. I'm in Gwent but have friends elsewhere in Wales.


20 Jul 09 - 10:15 AM (#2683852)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Dave Hanson

Isn't he one of Mickey Mouse's nephews along with Hewy and Lewy ?

Dave H


20 Jul 09 - 10:21 AM (#2683855)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Dave Hanson

No bugger me it was Donald Duck.

Dave H


18 Sep 09 - 10:06 AM (#2725996)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Dewi from The Netherlands

In Indonesian, this name is a girl's name. It's also my name, although I'm not Indonesian and live in The Netherlands, I am a girl.

My name is pronounced Day-wee, don't pronounce the 'y' in 'day' though.


29 Jun 11 - 04:26 AM (#3178148)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Dewi

DEWWWII


05 Aug 13 - 04:55 AM (#3545692)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Dez

I got a mate from South Wales who introduces himself as "Dowie"


05 Aug 13 - 06:11 PM (#3545900)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Rahere

I married into a family whose primary tongue is Welsh, up the Swansea Valley. The patriarch gets his full moniker Dafydd Blethyn, never contracted from respect, as he was also a senior freemason (Valley nobility) in London.
Dewi's the diminutive of Dafydd - as Davy to David. The Welsh language differs by small degrees from place to place, but the biggest difference is between North and South, and it can get a bit pointed. When you add in the anglo-Welsh forms around Cardiff, of which this is kind-of typical, you can get a fairish amount of variation, but as they're really just English with a Welsh accent they don't properly count.
Phonetically, D-e-w-i breaks down into d-eh-oow-ee, but the third phoneme elides into the second giving the deh-wee cited. Worse, in some combinations with the preceding word, the D can mutate into Dd (th).


05 Aug 13 - 07:00 PM (#3545915)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: McGrath of Harlow

I notice the revalence of "eh" in people's versions of how to pronounce the name.

So how do people pronounce "eh"?


06 Aug 13 - 11:20 AM (#3546159)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,leeneia

Good question. I think it's supposed to be a naked short e, and it rhymes with the French 'le'. It also rhymes with 'feh,' the expression of disdain.


06 Aug 13 - 11:51 AM (#3546164)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: Mr Happy

Revalence??


06 Aug 13 - 03:32 PM (#3546248)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: pavane

As an Englishman living in Wales, it always sounds like Dowey to me. But I expect I miss the subtleties. (that doesn't look right?)


07 Aug 13 - 09:28 AM (#3546536)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST

The length of Wales stretches for more than 200 miles, with a myriad of local accents positively thriving. As for trying to pinpoint how to pronounce 'Dewi' - well, it's a pretty tall order!

I lived in Ystalyfera, 13 miles up the Swansea Valley, but the Valley accent was very different from the 'Swansea Jacks' city accent. The same goes for the Llanelli accent, the Bridgend accent, the Kairdiff accent and the Newport accent; they're only 12 miles apart, but you could pick out the Cardiff contingent from the Newport residents any time! In fact, I was at a residents' meeting, when the speaker was the language expert from the National History Museum at St Fagans. By listening to their speech, he could identify which village the person had come from, and even pick out which side of the street! I later moved to Llantrisant, where I endured the South-East Valleys accent - I'm still enduring it!

I love that North-West Wales family of accents - especially the 'u', pronounced 'ee'. But a North Walian pronounces 'u' with the vowel coming from somewhere deep down in the throat, a sound which I could not possibly copy - what a gorgeous, fascinating speech it is.

My good friend Pavane, you were right in hearing 'Dowey'; but you living in Bryncoch, near the Neath Valley... which is different again. I have no problems pronouncing 'Deh-wee'. Wales is a nation with a hundred different accents, and long may it continue.


07 Aug 13 - 09:31 AM (#3546539)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Dr Price, cookieless

Sorry - the 'guest' was me... where have my cookies gone?


18 Nov 14 - 04:31 PM (#3678193)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the name welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST

dare we


19 Nov 14 - 04:00 AM (#3678277)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the Welsh name Dewi
From: Dave Hanson

Oh hell just call him Doc.

Dave H


19 Nov 14 - 03:25 PM (#3678423)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the Welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Rahere

Anyway, you know you're in when it's Dai.
Headed for Clydach, Swansea Friday.


20 Nov 14 - 02:26 PM (#3678725)
Subject: RE: how to pronounce the Welsh name Dewi
From: GUEST,Rahere

The Welsh have some strange names, though - what do you make of parents by the name of Leyshon who name their firstborn Dai? Must have been a big baby. Anyway, the said Dai spent most of his life working for Meirion, the local undertaker, when he wasn't working somewhere else. As a result, he earned the nickname Dai the Death (but never to his face, though).