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09 Dec 05 - 09:53 AM (#1623520) Subject: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: mooman Just spotted on today's BBC Website a piece about publishers threatening action, including imprisonment, on sites carrying lyrics, chords, tabs, etc. Discussed before here I know but posted for information. Peace moo |
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09 Dec 05 - 10:19 AM (#1623544) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: Splott Man Yeah, let's stop people singing other people's songs altogether. I would support this action if I thought it meant "lesser" artistes getting their fair share, but in my experience this is about bolstering the position of the already successful artistes. Songwriters I know (even moderately successful ones) are happy to share their lyrics, and are honoured and flattered that other people want to do their songs. |
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09 Dec 05 - 10:46 AM (#1623562) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: Paco Rabanne I don't have much sympathy for publishers. How many people like me have bought piss poor Anthologies by famous musicians where all the songs have been "arranged" using only C F and G chords!! |
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09 Dec 05 - 10:46 AM (#1623564) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: katlaughing If I am reading it correctly, they are mostly interested in those sites offering "sheet music?" Wonder if they will go after the BBC's virtual sessions tunebook...oh, yeah, those are all trad.LOL I would not like to see my brother's classical scores suddenly available for download, but that is NOT where most of the money comes from anyway; that, and they are huge anyway. Any songwriter should have the right to make their stuff available, if they so desire, regardless of what their publisher may say. This will be interesting to watch. That fellow seems a little over the top, hoping to throw in jail time, too. Wonder what kind of percentages he is sued to sharing with the songwriters/composers. Self-publishing eliminates poeple like him. The writer/website owner of No Media Kings has some interesting stuff to say about leaving a major publishing hosue to self-publish his own books. Not music, but still relative, imo. Thanks, kat |
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09 Dec 05 - 10:53 AM (#1623567) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: GUEST,leeneia I read the BBC article. It would be a good one to take to English class as an example of careless and inflammatory journalism. For example, the references to: guitar licks - does the reporter even know what a guitar lick is? many licks have been around for a long time the move - what move was that, exactly? jail time - judges don't put people in prison just because rich white men want them to. There are sentencing guidelines in the law. What do they say? Meanwhile, I can understand music publishers wanting to be paid for their product. If the issue is money, why don't they work out a way to get money from the websites? Duh! |
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09 Dec 05 - 10:55 AM (#1623569) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: John MacKenzie What about the singers who enclose a booklet with the words of all their songs inside the record/CD sleeve? I was looking at the Buffy St Marie site that is linked in the threads, and that gives the words of all the songs she recorded, not just her own songs, where does that stand in the light of this crackdown? Giok |
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09 Dec 05 - 10:55 AM (#1623571) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: GUEST,Greycap What if you learn it from a friend by sitting down and playing along with him until you know it? ( It's called practice) - can the bastards sue us then? |
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09 Dec 05 - 09:27 PM (#1624076) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: The Fooles Troupe Well if a farmer who saves his own organic seed and have it unwillingly polluted by genetically modified seed and be successfully sued for property theft, then why not, Greycap? |
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10 Dec 05 - 12:07 AM (#1624166) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: Stephen L. Rich More immediately, what happens to site like this one inwhich we ask one another for words and chords to various songs? Stephen Lee |
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10 Dec 05 - 06:25 AM (#1624264) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: The Fooles Troupe Swapping the words is probably covered by "fair use". |
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10 Dec 05 - 07:49 AM (#1624306) Subject: Sharing Lyrics & Tablature now illegal!! From: woodsie Now I hear that he fat, greedy, cigar puffing, brandy swilling music publishing shitheads are going to start a campaign against Tablature and song lyrics being shared freely on the web. See this link BBC News |
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10 Dec 05 - 10:27 AM (#1624366) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: Bill D about Mudcat....several years ago, the Song Police wrote Max and demanded that he pay or desist from hosting 'protected' lyrics.....after some back & forth in which Max worked kinda hard to get THEM to specify what lyrics they were concerned about, we finally showed that MOST of the DT was either trad., or approved. I think there were a very few songs which were removed, but a number of artists/authors specifically wrote permissions to have their stuff here! I suppose it's possible the issue could arise again, but we are pretty small potatoes in this struggle. |
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10 Dec 05 - 11:50 AM (#1624414) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: GUEST,Scotchman Donovan is a culprit. Threatening emails were sent to his own fan sites to remove lyric or else. |
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10 Dec 05 - 03:39 PM (#1624560) Subject: RE: Crack down on song and lyric sites From: Stephen L. Rich Bill D, It has been my experience that there is nodoby too small for the big money people to bully. Stephen Lee |