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28 Dec 05 - 01:51 AM (#1635849) Subject: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: The Shambles Did anyone see French and Saunders Chistmas TV special? They had a sketch in which Rufus Wainwright (tried) to perform his song under a banner saying 'The Beckenham Folk Festival'. He was joined on stage by two worthy folk ladies who insisted on dancing with him and trying to play bodhrans and other strange instruments........ |
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28 Dec 05 - 04:10 AM (#1635861) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Sooz Didn't do "folk" any favours did it? |
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28 Dec 05 - 04:16 AM (#1635864) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Compton How often does "Mainstream TV" do "folk" a favour? |
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28 Dec 05 - 04:16 AM (#1635865) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Sooz We can always hope. |
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28 Dec 05 - 05:05 AM (#1635872) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Jeanie "Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they will never cease to be amused." (Anon.) "Angels fly because they take themselves lightly." (G.K.Chesterton) I thought it was a very well observed sketch. They got the clothing, the hairstyles, the banner, the microphone introduction, all of it, spot on ! Good humour observes and takes what is there and exaggerates it just that little bit (and sometimes, even, not at all). These ladies (and the BBC wardrobe department) have obviously *been places*, taking notes ! What makes something funny is seeing people taking themselves and what they are doing totally seriously. "The Fast Show" did the same thing in their take-off of those "late night jazz" programmes. Generally speaking (ooh dear....I fear I have to cover myself by that) the frequenters of folk events *do* dress in a distinctive way and our music and many of the instruments that play it *are* different from what is listened to by the majority of the population. Of course they are going to find us funny ! (in just the same way as we may grin at those Chavs in their burberry and bling, for instance). Maybe French & Saunders can develop their "Beckenham Folk Festival" into a sit-com ? - jeanie |
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28 Dec 05 - 05:10 AM (#1635873) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST Still not found the Folk Messiah then, the one that will lead folk music out of the wilderness, and turn the doubters and the naysayers into disciples. Yeah right!! |
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28 Dec 05 - 05:11 AM (#1635874) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: breezy we are not mainstream ,thats cos we is esoteric ! No such thing as 'bad publicity' A form of flattery maybe? Happy new year The Duke of Marlborough in St Albans, Herts U K for new years day evening with 'windward' plus a quiz 15th jan at the Comfort with guest Ben Campbell from Moorland Folk |
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28 Dec 05 - 05:59 AM (#1635884) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: The Shambles Still not found the Folk Messiah then, the one that will lead folk music out of the wilderness, and turn the doubters and the naysayers into disciples. Yeah right!! Perhaps Beckenham has already found this Messiah? http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/features/beckenham.htm |
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28 Dec 05 - 06:25 AM (#1635891) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST French and Saunders suffer a huge drawback as comedy writers and performers: they are not funny. Their programmes are fit only for small children. It is disgrace that given the millions of pounds poured into television production and the colossal salaries paid to so-called Creatives this is typical mainstream adult telly and bloody rubbish it is too. Thank God for Folk and other home-made music as a alternative to such bollocks. |
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28 Dec 05 - 06:44 AM (#1635899) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,Mr (apolitical) Red Hey - I stopped laughing at satire when I aquired a political favourite. I stop having a political favourite when I stopped laughing. I am over it now but the scars are still with me. |
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28 Dec 05 - 07:32 AM (#1635915) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,Anon Those who criticise French & Saunders ought to know that both performed as folk singers before finding fame and fortune as comediennes. Like Jasper Carrot and Billy Connolly before them some of our best comics started life as folk singers. Both Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders have been seen with their families at folk festivals in the south of England in recent years and Dawn French is known to particularly like the singing of June Tabor and The Copper Family. Don't knock 'em. |
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28 Dec 05 - 07:41 AM (#1635920) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Big Al Whittle didn't see it . hands off the Vicar of Dibley though, she's as near as most sentient beings will get to a spiritual life of the old fashioned type. her ministry touched more people in England than three generations of happy clappers, and 'looking disdainfully down the nose at anything post 1953' styles of Christianity. if you went near the tv at Christmas, someone should put you wise to the Blockbusters Video store. |
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28 Dec 05 - 07:58 AM (#1635925) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,Raggytash Do you really want folk to become mainstream, I recall walking in the Peak district and Lake District before these two places became mainstream locations for tourists. They were comparatively empty, the other walkers you met were, for the most part, like minded. We did not have "Ye Olde Worlde Coffee Shoppes" and to my mind the area's were much better off without them. I'm not at all sure I would welcome folk becoming mainstream |
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28 Dec 05 - 08:31 AM (#1635938) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Alan Day Thank goodness when I first read the posting, I thought it said Beckham Folk festival, but the thought of Posh doing Folk Dancing would really be quite amusing,I wonder what David would play? Al |
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28 Dec 05 - 08:43 AM (#1635940) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Big Al Whittle Nah! Beckenham, ain't that where Ewan and Peggy used to live? |
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28 Dec 05 - 10:33 AM (#1635999) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST Why do you think Jennifer Saunders dropped Dawn French from Absolutely Fabulous? Because, as Guest said above, "SHE IS NOT FUNNY" She should spend more time on her scripts, and less time trying to convince us that she's beautiful. |
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28 Dec 05 - 10:55 AM (#1636011) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: manitas_at_work Wasn't Dawn busy on something else at the time? "Murder Most Horrid", perhaps? She is one of the scriptwriters for AbFab so I don't suppose she was droped by Jennifer Saunders. |
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28 Dec 05 - 02:22 PM (#1636134) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,grumpy old c*nt maybe saunders is marginally more 'naturally' funny than french maybe dawn french is a good 'comic actor' rather than a natural comedienne and is only as funny as the scripts she performs.. maybe they cant write anything funny enough to be allowed to be given huge BBC budgets ?????? maybe its also a gender thing.. ..the wife thinks french and saunders are hilarious |
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28 Dec 05 - 03:02 PM (#1636144) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Liz the Squeak Just who is Rupert Wetwipe anyway?! LTS |
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28 Dec 05 - 03:14 PM (#1636151) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Doug Chadwick I find Jennifer Saunders funny when she isn't working with Dawn French I find Dawn French funny when she isn't working with Jennifer Saunders I find French & Saunders funny when they are working together DC |
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28 Dec 05 - 06:59 PM (#1636300) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Grab F&S were *never* funny on their own shows. As writers for other people, they seem to apply more care to their work, and as actors fronting other people's scripts they do a good job. For themselves though, they'll fill 10-second gaps going "yeah - yeah - yeah" when they obviously couldn't be arsed to write a script. It's not improvising, it's just being crap and unprepared. Graham. |
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28 Dec 05 - 11:02 PM (#1636463) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,Bottom Hasn't this thread moved completely away from its original topic, namely, the French / Saunders TV piss-take of a folk festival? I thought their sketch was very amusing and not at all offensive. I cannot understand the negativity that creeps into all the threads on mudcat these days. Like Anon. I remember seeing Dawn French at a folk festival, indeed I even chatted with her on the streets of Broadstairs and was impressed by her knowledge of traditional music & dance. She said she'd always longed to be a morris dancer but didn't think she had the build for it! |
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29 Dec 05 - 04:10 AM (#1636545) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST She'd be all right as a Bullnose Morris or maybe a Morris Oxford |
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29 Dec 05 - 04:19 AM (#1636550) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: The Shambles Just who is Rupert Wetwipe anyway?! Not too sure but after saying to millions of viewers that he can't stand folk festivals - I don't suppose he will now get booked to play at many...... Nor perhaps his father - Louder Wetwipe III or his mother who is one of the MacMiserable sisters. |
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29 Dec 05 - 04:58 AM (#1636556) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: breezy I think Dawn more than has the build to be a trad folk singer, but the lack of beard does little to help. Its great that they paid 'folk' such a compliment. lets have more of the same I say, Little Britain is for the younger set!! The two Ronnies also helped promote the cause if I remember |
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29 Dec 05 - 05:18 AM (#1636563) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST I'd rather be kicked in the nuts than watch an episode of Little Britain! What a load of self indulgent twaddle it is! |
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29 Dec 05 - 07:12 AM (#1636601) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,Another Guest Yet more negativity! If you just want to moan go to one of the Sidmouth threads which seem to be totally populated by moaning minnies. Leave this thread for those of us who appreciate the comic genius of French & Saunders. |
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29 Dec 05 - 07:24 AM (#1636605) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST Excellent stuff and so is Little Britain more of the same please |
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29 Dec 05 - 09:28 AM (#1636650) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST Another Guest, you sound like Shambles, as you seem to want to express your own opinion but not listen to any opinion that disagrees with yours. If only life were that simple! |
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29 Dec 05 - 10:27 AM (#1636677) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST The praise you often hear for French & Saunders concerns their deadly accurate movie pastiches. Spend enough money and you can indeed make pinpoint copies of famous films, and everyone seems to overlook the fact that you've spent about 5 minutes cobblig together a lazy script The shame is, they have proved themselves to be very talented, but appear content to coast |
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29 Dec 05 - 10:50 AM (#1636685) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,amazed comic genius ??????!!!!! of French & Saunders ??? .. yer 'avin a larf..!!! whatever next.. ?? Mike Harding, king of comedy..???? |
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29 Dec 05 - 02:45 PM (#1636811) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: GUEST,Lord Bonkers Seems any comic who turns to folk singing or any folk singer who turns to comedy just gets bashed on Mudcat. One of these days I must find out which folk club all these mudcatters go to just so I can go along and find out if they're all as miserable in real life as they appear on this board. Or maybe I should just go to Sidmouth as they all seem to emigrate there in early August. |
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29 Dec 05 - 03:16 PM (#1636836) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: shepherdlass Oh, puh-lease! Almost their entire show is send-ups, most of them brilliantly observed AND affectionate. Now I'm cursing not getting to see this one ... if it's anywhere near as good as their "Silence of the Lambs", then it must have been worth seeing. |
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29 Dec 05 - 03:23 PM (#1636842) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: Orwell Who does their bookings? |
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29 Dec 05 - 05:46 PM (#1636926) Subject: RE: French/ Saunders TV folk festval. From: mooman Well I enjoyed it anyway and it was well observed and sympathetic IMHO! Peace moo |