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05 Feb 06 - 07:55 PM (#1662514) Subject: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk I have viewed a few clips from the forthcoming Pink Panther remake with Steve Martin. It looks to me like it's going to be an absolute turkey. I mean seriously unfunny. Anybody else care to make a prediction? Their idea of replacing the hapless Kato (long-suffering Japanese assistant who is required to endure sudden unexpected attacks from his employer and to launch same)...replacing Kato with a calm, efficient, masterful fellow who beats Clouseau to the punch every time...is just not funny. Well, it's a teeny bit funny once. After that? Forget it. What were they thinking of? You cannot generate lengthy and hilarious slapstick fight scenes and destroy a lot of props and scenery with fights that don't even get past the first punch, for God's sake! |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:00 PM (#1662521) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: GUEST We agree. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:02 PM (#1662525) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: artbrooks For one thing, IMHO, anything with Steve Martin is destined to be an absolute turkey. As a general rule, I tend to think that most remakes fail to match the original, but Martin plays all of his characters as moronic buffoons, and Peter Sellers' Inspector Clouseau was a genuinely funny individual. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:03 PM (#1662527) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: WFDU - Ron Olesko I never thought that the originals were very funny either. I tried watching them a few years ago and felt that they did not hold up over time. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:07 PM (#1662534) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk What I loved about the original Clouseau was his sumblime arrogance, even in the face of total disaster...coupled with his genuine and ardent desire to heriocally do his duty, please people, solve the crime, and be a brilliant sleuth. He was at once both pompous and genuinely tragic. You couldn't help but sympathize with him. I don't think the Steve Martin Clouseau is going to be easy to sympathize with. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:17 PM (#1662554) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin Peter Sellers could pull it off because he made you believe in the innocence and naivte of his character. Steve Martin's forte lies elsewhere. His comedy is too tongue-in-cheek for Clouseau, I think. He was great in the remake of "Father of the Bride", though. And in "Parenthood". And in "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid". |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:21 PM (#1662560) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk That's exactly it, Cluin. It was Clouseau's complete innocence that made him so lovable. He was a totally sincere man with absolutely not one grain of good judgement or correct timing. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:25 PM (#1662565) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk And Sellers was wonderful at playing such hapless yet sincere individuals, like Chauncy Butler in "Being There" or the Indian actor in "The Party". |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:26 PM (#1662567) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin I agree, LH. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:26 PM (#1662568) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin You bastard. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:30 PM (#1662576) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk I don't know what you mean? My familial legitimacy is beyond question. I am a direct descendent of the Duke of Wellington and am a fifth cousin of Penelople Rutledge of Twillingsgate. My antecedents are of only the finest British stock. You wound me, sir. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:34 PM (#1662577) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin I agree. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:46 PM (#1662584) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: McGrath of Harlow It sounds like a dreadful idea. The idea of making a new Clouseau movie in itself sounds silly. A bit like setting out to make a new Marx Brothers movie. But as for picking Steve Martin to play the Inspector, that's just stupid. You might as well use William Shatner. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:48 PM (#1662587) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Anonny Mouse Frankly, I like Steve Martin and don't think anything he's in is going to be a turkey...surely some were (like "Pennies from Heaven"--yech). However, I too saw some clips from the new Panther "epic". Steve is no Peter Sellers. Far too broad a comic, and I agree-I think the new "Panther" will likely tank. |
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05 Feb 06 - 08:49 PM (#1662588) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk WHOA! What an idea....... If we could knock 85 lbs off him...and get some plastic surgery...and see if he can master the accent... Hmmm. I think this is workable. I really do. |
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05 Feb 06 - 11:34 PM (#1662621) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Bee-dubya-ell The problem with resurrecting a character who's closely identified with a specific actor is that if the moviemaker casts someone who's style is too different from the role's former portrayer he gets accused of blasphemy, but if he casts someone too similar he gets accused of pandering and lack of imagination. Any of the Monty Python gang would have been closer to Peter Sellers' Clouseau than Steve Martin, but it would have invited criticism from a different quarter. I question why they'd choose to resurrect Clouseau in the first place. Why not have a new Inspector who is Clouseau's successor? Then they'd be able to duck the comparisons with Sellers entirely. |
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05 Feb 06 - 11:57 PM (#1662631) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Kaleea how 'bout Son of Pink Panther? |
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05 Feb 06 - 11:59 PM (#1662633) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: JennieG "A berm? Were you expecting a berm?" Love that line! Sellers was wonderful in the role, he excelled at playing the simple person without toppling over into playing him as a simpleton. Is the new movie using the original Henry Mancini music? Cheers JennieG |
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06 Feb 06 - 12:05 AM (#1662637) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk Yes, I think it is. That won't save it. I called up Shatner, and asked about McGrath's idea. He laughed. "Naw....let Steve Martin make an ass of himself. Then let it sit for a bit...say...five years. Then I'll do it. Only I'll cast it in a futuristic setting, in the year 2025." |
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06 Feb 06 - 07:20 AM (#1662727) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Beer No one could ever replace Peter Sellers. Including Robin Williams or anyone else. Peter Sellers was Peter Sellers a truly great in his own right. |
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06 Feb 06 - 07:42 AM (#1662737) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Peter T. Actually, John Cleese is perhaps the only person who could have done it. Basil Fawlty is the same kind of dangerous innocent, though far too manic for Inspector Clouseau. But he might have brought a different kind of derangement to the part. I saw the Panther films some time ago, and after the first two they are seriously downhill. yours, Peter T. |
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06 Feb 06 - 01:05 PM (#1662921) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Little Hawk That's true. The first two were the best. People kept going to the sequels merely because they enjoyed seeing an old friend again. That's what usually happens with such character parts. They overdid the stuff about his increasingly deranged police boss, the chief inspector, and it just got ridiculous after awhile. They should have gone for entirely new characters for Clouseau to tangle with instead. |
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06 Feb 06 - 02:15 PM (#1662967) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: WFDU - Ron Olesko I think Steve Martin will be as fondly remembered as Alan Arkin's version of Clousseau. |
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06 Feb 06 - 03:24 PM (#1663022) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Beer Anyone recall a movie that Peter Sellers commits suicide by sticking his arms into a potato bag and slices his wrists? |
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06 Feb 06 - 05:57 PM (#1663160) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin Lotsa yuks there. |
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06 Feb 06 - 08:14 PM (#1663300) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: gnu Does your dog bite? The new telephone book is here! I rest my case. |
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06 Feb 06 - 08:26 PM (#1663311) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin "Does your dog bite?" was from The Pink Panther Strikes Again, not one of the original 2 movies. They were ALL great! |
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06 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM (#1663316) Subject: RE: BS: New Pink Panther movie? From: Cluin By the way, Herbert Lom was also a genius in his performance. |