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06 Feb 06 - 03:39 AM (#1662679) Subject: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: Paul Burke A friend showed me a small collection of wax cylinders that has been in his family for years, along with an Edison Type A phonograph. They used to play them when they were kids, but the cylinders are so delicate that some were damaged, and they have now been stored unplayed for about 40 years. The player now lacks a needle. Some of the titles look interesting- notably Carolina Tar Heel (banjo) and Lancashire Clog- so I wondered if anyone (in the UK) knows where we could get these transcribed? |
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06 Feb 06 - 04:17 AM (#1662684) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: GUEST,JC Possibly at The National Sound Archive at The British Library in London. These are extremely fragile and easily damaged -m DON'T TRY TO DO THIS AT HOME!!! As you say, they sound interesting |
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06 Feb 06 - 07:44 AM (#1662738) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: Howard Kaplan Here are links to two articles, dated 2004, concerning the use of optical methods (lasers) to retrieve sound from wax cylinders: From the San Francisco Chronicle From Science News |
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06 Feb 06 - 08:50 PM (#1663338) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: KathWestra The Recorded Sound Division at the (U.S.) Library of Congress in Washington, DC, has the equipment (and the know-how) for transferring the material on wax cylinders to more stable media. They have preserved many of the earliest recordings from the collections of the Archive of Folk Culture in the American Folklife Center that are on wax cylinders (including cylinder recordings made of Passamaquoddy Indians in Maine ca. 1890). Perhaps someone in that very specialized department of the "LC" would know someone in the U.K. who has the facilities and the expertise to do this. The Library's website is here: Library of Congress Good luck! Kathy |
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06 Feb 06 - 10:25 PM (#1663425) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: GUEST,.gargoyle The old "Big Fun Book - For Boys and Girls" had drawings/diagrams for making recordings using TIN (not aluminium) foil, a cigar-box, and a roll.
Sincerely,
It worked, sort of. |
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20 Feb 06 - 05:09 AM (#1673581) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: ragdall I own a working Edison Amberola that looks pretty much like the one in this picture. The cylinders look like those in the picture. They're made of a hard blue plastic-looking material over an inner cylinder that looks like clay. These are not "wax cylinders", are they? Thanks, rags |
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20 Feb 06 - 11:12 AM (#1673835) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: GUEST,Russ These folks claim they'll transcribe cylinders for free. http://www.tinfoil.com/collectr.htm |
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20 Feb 06 - 08:10 PM (#1674332) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: GUEST,Jack Campin Google for Adrian Tuddenham, regular on uk.comp.sys.mac. He does a lot of this. Cylinders are not all the same and the transcriber needs to figure out exactly how the recording machinery worked. The National Sound Archive appears not to give a collective flying fuck about folk music and should not be entrusted with anything like this. |
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21 Feb 06 - 03:53 AM (#1674605) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: GUEST,J C "I own a working Edison Amberola that looks pretty much like the one in this picture. The cylinders look like those in the picture. They're made of a hard blue plastic-looking material over an inner cylinder that looks like clay. These are not "wax cylinders", are they?" Yes, they are "The National Sound Archive appears not to give a collective flying fuck about folk music and should not be entrusted with anything like this." Up to about 20 years ago this might have been the case, but since then, when Lucy Duran joined, there have been changes for the better. I for one am very grateful for somewhere to have deposited our own collection of field recordings - it means they are going to be around much longer that we are. The International Music Department recently completed its 'Bright Golden Store' project which added a number of collections of British traditional music to its holdings - visit its website sometime www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive |
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21 Feb 06 - 04:01 AM (#1674609) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: Paul Burke Thanks Jack, I've been monitoring u.c.s.m. for about a week, but I haven't seen him there yet. Does he use a pseudonym? |
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21 Feb 06 - 06:52 AM (#1674676) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Paul - it looks as if you can contact him via (using his own format): poppy.uk@ukonline.invalid.invalid (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) Or you can go via the website: Poppy Records. Mick |
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21 Feb 06 - 07:19 AM (#1674691) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: breezy urry up paul its nerly time to go camping. Well done Mick, to the rescue Its probably the technology that is of more fascination than the music contained therein. All the best chaps. Pete Coe, St Albans, Sunday |
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21 Feb 06 - 07:22 AM (#1674693) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: breezy Also contact University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, as the Basketball team is known as the Tar Heels. !! it was Michael Jordan's Alma mater |
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21 Feb 06 - 09:22 AM (#1674748) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: Snuffy That National Sound Archive link is forbidden to ordinary mortals:
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21 Feb 06 - 11:00 AM (#1674825) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: manitas_at_work Try http://www.bl.uk/collections/sound-archive/nsa.html or go to the root page and navigate from there |
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21 Feb 06 - 02:40 PM (#1675047) Subject: RE: Tech: Getting wax cylinders transcribed From: GUEST,J C National Sound Archive, Whoops sorry, wrong number - should be http://www.bl.uk/nsa |