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25 Feb 06 - 05:42 PM (#1678836) Subject: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Bobert Well gol danged... This mornin' I figured that I oughtta stick around with the P-Vine 'cause she's got a head cold and so I was laying in bed, sippin' coffeee and watching TV with her... I don't see alot of TV so I was kinda surprised to see one commercial after another where men were portrayed as complete morons??? One guy fell over his lawnmower. Another crashed his car thru the garage door and a third knocked over a lit BBQ grill and caught part of the lawn on fire??? Then there yet another who got a broom on fire by trying to do put out a grease fire on the stove!!! Yeah, I knew we were some purdy danged messed up folks but is we really the bozo's that TV makes us out to be??? Bobert |
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25 Feb 06 - 05:57 PM (#1678846) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Liz the Squeak You sure it was commercials and not one of them there home video programmes? And have you had any of those accidents? If you have (and I bet there's a BBQ story in there somewhere) then I think you've answered your own question!! LTS |
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25 Feb 06 - 05:59 PM (#1678847) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Bee-dubya-ell It's not that men are bozos, Bobert, it's that portraying women doing stupid shit is often seen as reinforcing old sterotypes. If a woman drives a car through the garage door she's a "typical dumb blonde woman driver". If a man does it he's an idiot, but there's no implicit statement about men in general. |
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25 Feb 06 - 06:12 PM (#1678855) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: autolycus The world of advertising is NOT the same as the real world. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves all they get. Ivor |
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25 Feb 06 - 06:27 PM (#1678862) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: *daylia* Bobert, were the commercials you mention for everyday household products (ie laundry soap, bandaids etc)? |
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25 Feb 06 - 06:31 PM (#1678867) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: John MacKenzie Well we have a long running radio soap called The Archers here in the UK Bobert, and almost every man on it is portrayed as a wimp, so thar ya goes me ol' mate! Giok [Any news of the CD yet?] |
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25 Feb 06 - 06:54 PM (#1678884) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace What's a TV? |
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25 Feb 06 - 06:54 PM (#1678885) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Little Hawk You have just become aware, Bobert, of one of the 500 or so really good reasons not to spend one's time watching TV. |
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25 Feb 06 - 06:57 PM (#1678886) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Clinton Hammond " Are Men Really Bozo'z???" It's not just men.... |
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25 Feb 06 - 07:38 PM (#1678905) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Bobert Ahhhh, first of all, LtS, to my knowledge, I ain't done none of them things... Well, okay, I was driving a big truck once and didn't see that gargae door hadn't opened all the way and I broke the lower panel... Yeah, LH, I don't watch much TV other than the news and an occaional football game.... Okay, I watch "Survivor"... The CD, John, is real close... I should have an announcement thread of the release date with in a week or two... Sorry, daylia, but the sound was off and I wasn't really paying attention to the products... |
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25 Feb 06 - 08:03 PM (#1678911) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: GUEST Same in the Uk Bobert. Apparantly we're just lazy bozos who let the little woman open an internet bank account for us because we're too dumb and old fashioned to latch on to the new ways. Just wait till that washer on the sink goes though! And she still can't park the car!! |
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25 Feb 06 - 08:21 PM (#1678924) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Cluin Watch a few episodes of "Reba". Every male in that show is an idiot. On second thought, so are most of the females (except for Reba and her smart-mouth daughter). My girlfriend makes me watch "Reba" and "American/Canadian Idol" sometimes. Yeah, I've got issues. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it? |
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25 Feb 06 - 08:24 PM (#1678927) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Once Famous bobert, I have to say I have noticed this trend in advertising for some time. Men are portrayed often as bumbling oafs and doofusses. I don't like it and I come away with a negative feeling of what was just being advertised. I also believe that for the most part men do not get portrayed enough in a caring parent role. |
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25 Feb 06 - 09:12 PM (#1678944) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Clinton Hammond "except for Reba" Her comedic timing on that show is about as natural as her hair colour... |
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25 Feb 06 - 09:49 PM (#1678951) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Tweed Well of course we are Bozo'z!! I, like many Mudcat men, disguise myself as a standardized human being during the daylight hours, but when night time rolls around I am quick to put on an orange wig, size 36 wingtips and a big red nose before going out on the town. I find there is nothing turns a big legged woman on more than a rubber bulbed horn honked repeatedly in her ear. Works every time!!! |
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25 Feb 06 - 09:52 PM (#1678953) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Cluin Reba's the one I wanted to see "grab-oided" in Tremors. It's funny how you can have an almost instant unexplainable dislike to someone the first time you see them. |
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25 Feb 06 - 09:54 PM (#1678955) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Bobert You don't count, Tweezer... We all know 'bout you... Size 36's, ya say???? Hmmmmmmm??? Were'd ya' find 'um... I found some 24's but, hey, 36's??? |
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25 Feb 06 - 09:58 PM (#1678957) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: gnu Yeeees! I wonder why women don't speak up about it. Enough of them speak up about other things, like nudie mags being demeaning. What could be more demeaning to women than ads which demean the intelligence of men in order to "reach" female viewers? Ye lads step away, now, or suit up. There's gonna be unfriendly fire. |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:01 PM (#1678958) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Janie Remember Fire Sign Theater? "I must go where the bozos go....my mother was a bozoette in high school." |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:02 PM (#1678959) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: frogprince The question was answered long ago |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:09 PM (#1678961) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: gnu "...an almost instant unexplainable dislike to someone the first time you see them." Reba? Drop dead gorgeous, intelligent, talented... etc, etc, etc... ?? Reba? I'd give my left, ah, er, I would love to be in the company of anyone with half the attributes of she. The TV show "Reba" does portray men as dolts. That's one of the reasons I do not watch it. But, Reba? Damn!!! |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:20 PM (#1678965) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Clinton Hammond " Reba? Drop dead gorgeous" She looks like she might have been gorgeous, then she got dropped from a great height and died... |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:22 PM (#1678968) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Clinton Hammond "Reba's the one I wanted to see "grab-oided"" She woulda been too, if it hadn'ta been fer the elephant gun |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:38 PM (#1678979) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace Who the hell is Reba? |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:44 PM (#1678986) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: gnu Hehehehe. |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:53 PM (#1678994) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: kendall This goes way back. I remember the movie Dagwood, based on the comic strip. Schelmiel in person. |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:53 PM (#1678995) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: jacqui.c On the subject - a few years ago it was women who were being stereotyped - nice frilly pinny, immaculate house, squeaky clean children. Absolute bollocks as far as a lot of women were concerned. Now the pendulum has swung too far the other way and that offends me as much as the mumsy women did. It is demeaning to women that advertisers think that portraying men as bozoes is going to sell the product to us. I wonder what sort of world the advertising agency gurus live in? They are so damned condescending to the viewer, on the whole. Looks like they really are aiming for the lowest common denominator. Talk about dumbing down! I agree with Martin - I do have a negative image of the products being advertised in that manner. |
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25 Feb 06 - 10:54 PM (#1678996) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: kendall Not sure how to spell schemiel |
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25 Feb 06 - 11:06 PM (#1679004) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Janie Peace--I was tempted to ask the same question--then decided if it had to do with a TV series, I probably don't want to know:O) Janie |
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25 Feb 06 - 11:19 PM (#1679010) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: wysiwyg Pardon me if I am not the first to reply with the following question-- Gee, I dunno, Boberds, but were wimmin EVER as bubbleheaded as the TV wimminz on You Bet Your Life? ~S~ |
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25 Feb 06 - 11:51 PM (#1679023) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: gnu Huh? |
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25 Feb 06 - 11:51 PM (#1679024) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace The spelling is 'schlemihl'. |
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26 Feb 06 - 12:12 AM (#1679034) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Amos Rhat's "schlemiel" in English. A |
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26 Feb 06 - 12:19 AM (#1679039) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: gnu Rhat's "schlemiel" in English? |
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26 Feb 06 - 04:48 AM (#1679092) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Cluin "She woulda been too, if it hadn'ta been fer the elephant gun" And those damn meddling kids and their dog. |
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26 Feb 06 - 05:33 AM (#1679113) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: autolycus It's shlemiel, as in A man came home from the steam baths - minus his shirt. "Shlemiel !",cried his wife,"Where's your shirt?" "My shirt? That's right. Where can it be?Aha ! Someone at the baths must have taken it by mistake, instead of his." "So where is HIS shirt?" The shlemiel scratched hid head."The fellow who took my shirt - he forgot to leave his." P.S. The world of advertising is less real than the world of jokes. Ivor |
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26 Feb 06 - 07:21 AM (#1679157) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Mr Red Am I alone in not understanding the question? D'uh. |
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26 Feb 06 - 08:55 AM (#1679250) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: McGrath of Harlow If a woman drives a car through the garage door she's a "typical dumb blonde woman driver". If a man does it he's an idiot, but there's no implicit statement about men in general. An interesting distinction. But it doesn't take long and the implicit statement does in fact become "typical dumb bloke". My impressionis that there are in fact a lot of younger people who do in fact buy into that, not just girls either, and it lies at the root of a whole set of things going wrong. |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:01 AM (#1679255) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Liz the Squeak So it seems that Manitas and I have the perfect household.. I do all the DIY and he does most of the cleaning... and he can't reverse park. Either that or he's turning into my mother and I'm turning into the man I wanted to marry! LTS |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:04 AM (#1679259) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: jacqui.c Damn it all Liz! Peppermint tea all over the keyboard! And it's my keyboard, not Kendalls! |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:50 AM (#1679282) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Liz the Squeak Ah.. revenge is sweet Jacqui..... see Hello from Phot thread. LTS |
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26 Feb 06 - 01:07 PM (#1679456) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: jacqui.c OK - it's war now Liz! |
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26 Feb 06 - 08:50 PM (#1679866) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Once Famous Peace, your Yiddish is great. Mazel Tov! |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:03 PM (#1679876) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace Vos ken yu makh? It's a gift--and Mr Google. What hangs on the wall, is green, wet and sings? |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:11 PM (#1679881) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: bobad Well you're not gonna leave us hangin' , are you ? |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:13 PM (#1679882) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Cluin Kermit, hung up to dry after a tryst with Miss Piggy. |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:13 PM (#1679883) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Cluin Oooooooh, I take that back. |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:14 PM (#1679884) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace LOL It's an old Yiddish joke. The answer is "A herring." |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:15 PM (#1679885) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Cluin It's not easy feeling mean. |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:17 PM (#1679890) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace LOL |
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26 Feb 06 - 10:01 PM (#1679924) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: GUEST "We're all bozos on this bus!" |
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27 Feb 06 - 04:03 AM (#1680042) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Liz the Squeak Glad I'm not on the bus then...... LTS |
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27 Feb 06 - 04:23 AM (#1680057) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Gurney Most of us, sometimes. However, if a man is portrayed as a bozo, no-one complains. If a woman is, half the population is liable to complain. So, lets all aim for the soft target. It is simple NOT to seem a bozo. Never do anything! Until the house catches fire, anyway. |
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27 Feb 06 - 07:34 AM (#1680131) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: jacqui.c Most maligned minority on the planet IMHO? White heterosexual male! |
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27 Feb 06 - 11:55 AM (#1680294) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: GUEST,Bozo Speaking of Bozo's |
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27 Feb 06 - 04:32 PM (#1680525) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: John MacKenzie Who's speaking of bozos? Giok |
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27 Feb 06 - 05:54 PM (#1680614) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Girl Friday Can't see the need for all the postings. The simple answer is ; YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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28 Feb 06 - 10:20 AM (#1681055) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: GUEST,Zigz I don't think they are all bozoes. But I am beginning to wonder if they are not all extremely selfish. Or is it just the guys I know? |
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28 Feb 06 - 06:47 PM (#1681678) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Divis Sweeney I am also noticing the number of make clowns out of men ads, on T.V. I think it's down to a number of men haters within the industry. If their were a number of ads on screen making women look like fools, there would be an outcry. Examples, Cornflakes. 8.30 BC , before Cornflakes, some guy walking around with y fronts back to front, looking like an ape. Comfort fabric conditioner. She wants the bed to herself so she puts him out of the house. A series of ones concerning sanitary towels. |
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28 Feb 06 - 06:51 PM (#1681683) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace Commercials are made for the common denominator. That is, they are made for people with 100 IQs. |
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28 Feb 06 - 07:09 PM (#1681700) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Peace As to the title of this thread: Look, just because I fart and scratch me arse, put my dirty socks in the fridge if that's more convenient than the laundry bag, burp, wipe my nose on the sleeve of my t-shirts, get the grease off my hands by drying them on the legs of my jeans--hey, does that make me a bozo? |
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28 Feb 06 - 08:10 PM (#1681734) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Bobert Well said, Bruce... |
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28 Feb 06 - 08:23 PM (#1681748) Subject: RE: BS: Are Men Really Bozo'z???... From: Kaleea Is Bozo really a man? And what of Ronald McDonald? |