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24 Mar 06 - 05:35 AM (#1701563) Subject: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: The Fooles Troupe St. Paul City Office Boots Easter Bunny Thu Mar 23, 9:31 AM ET ST. PAUL, Minn. - The Easter Bunny has been sent packing at St. Paul City Hall. A toy rabbit, pastel-colored eggs and a sign with the words "Happy Easter" were removed from the lobby of the City Council offices, because of concerns they might offend non-Christians. A council secretary had put up the decorations. They were not bought with city money. St. Paul's human rights director, Tyrone Terrill, asked that the decorations be removed, saying they could be offensive to non-Christians. But City Council member Dave Thune says removing the decorations went too far, and he wonders why they can't celebrate spring with "bunnies and fake grass." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060323/ap_on_fe_st/easter_bunny;_ylt=AvBkcSZUiErxe7oXubwuUYKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY- |
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24 Mar 06 - 05:48 AM (#1701567) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Purple Foxx We have the same sort of Situation in Britain with Pigs. Bureaucrats crack down on depictions of them for fear of offending Muslims. Muslims (quite properly) object to their presumptiveness in deciding what Muslims think without consultation. Bureaucrats carry on doing it anyway. This is not about equality it is about control. |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:04 AM (#1701641) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: GUEST Easter is represented by a rabbit? Not for Christians. |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:24 AM (#1701656) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: jacqui.c Check out this link. http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20021108.html |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:40 AM (#1701673) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Becca72 Remind me again about the meaning of Easter? Jesus rose from the dead and if he sees his shadow it's 6 more weeks of winter, right? Where does the rabbit fit in? |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:47 AM (#1701682) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Bat Goddess Ah, Oestra! The goddess whose symbols are the lily, the egg and the hare. You'd think the Easter bunny and a bunch of colored eggs would be offensive to CHRISTIANS! (Yikes! Goddess worship! Run for cover!) Linn |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:51 AM (#1701690) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Allan C. Y’know, if we could simply celebrate The Easter Bunny’s birthday by putting a mask on him, crucifying him, sticking a firecracker up his ass, stuffing him and then roasting him to serve to our gathered families, we could consolidate a whole lot of holidays into a single event, thus saving a hell of a lot of bother. |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:52 AM (#1701691) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Dave Hanson I'm offended by Cadburys cream eggs. Mind you I am an atheist. eric |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:52 AM (#1701692) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Emma B The cyles of the moon have long been associated with human fertility. On the face of the full moon it is possible to "see" a picture of a hare carrying an egg which symbolically heralds the new cyle of life that comes with the Spring. The Moon Goddess is named Eostre - in order to subvert this festival the Christian religion simply took it over - so hurrah for the survival of the Easter bunny and eggs! |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:53 AM (#1701695) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Rapparee GUEST of 8:04 is correct. The Easter Bunny, eggs, etc. are christianized symbols from non-christian beliefs. For a good time, ask someone if the essential part of Christian belief is the crucifixion or the resurrection. Chances are they will say the crucifixion; in the Epistles both Peter and Paul state that it is the resurrection, for without that there would be no proof of the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth and hence no point to the crucifixion. |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:57 AM (#1701700) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Purple Foxx "Yikes!Godess worship! Run for cover!" Actually, Bat Godess, Julian of Norwich( who was a woman)was openly referring to the Christian God as "She" as far back as the 14th Century. Don't tell the fundies mind... BTW Is it true that at this time of year Pagans produce Oestra Gin? |
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24 Mar 06 - 08:57 AM (#1701701) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Geoff the Duck Easter Bunny? Best celebrated with carrots, swede, onions and potato, sliced or chopped depending on your preference. Salt, pepper, perhaps a few fresh herbs - parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme, (to take it into the musical section), enough water to cover and then simmer for 2 hours. Serve with thick buttered bread. Delicious..... Quack! GtD. |
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24 Mar 06 - 09:03 AM (#1701706) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Paul Burke I must have missed a whole bunch when they were teaching me about religion. I thought it was what Jesus SAID that made him important. Oh well. Of course, the divinity of Christ makes the crucifixion no sacrifice at all, after all, a HUMAN knows he's going to die, but a GOD knows he isn't - I mean really knows it, not like people who've just convinced themselves. Gods (presumably) can remember not being in a human body, and know that in a short time they won't be in one again, so what's the hassle, three hours pain (that he created himself) out of an infinite existence? Then pop out of a hole in the ground, like a bunny ... |
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24 Mar 06 - 10:32 AM (#1701779) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Bee-dubya-ell The removed items were "A toy rabbit, pastel-colored eggs and a sign with the words 'Happy Easter'". No wonder they were removed! There was no chocolate for people walking by to snitch! |
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24 Mar 06 - 10:43 AM (#1701787) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: MMario Rapaire - when you get down to it the truly crucial part of the belief is in the birth; not the crucifixion OR the resurrection. Lazurus was resurrected - and the bible is full of martyrs. |
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24 Mar 06 - 11:45 AM (#1701835) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Kaleea How can a bunny represents religion unless it's chocolate? Maybe if the secretary had decorated with chocolate easter thingies it would have been less offensive. At least they could eat the evidence. Which reminds me-I haven't had any chocolate today. |
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24 Mar 06 - 01:40 PM (#1701928) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: GUEST,dianavan Easter is about the resurrection of life everlasting. The death of winter followed by the new life of Spring. The Christian version is just a way of incorporating religious festivals that were much older than Christianity. New seasons are always celebrated. Doesn't matter if you symbolize it with the cross or the Easter Bunny. It all means the same thing. Spring is here! |
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24 Mar 06 - 02:09 PM (#1701954) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Rapparee Well, MMario, that's not what ol' Paul (nee Saul) wrote.... |
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24 Mar 06 - 03:39 PM (#1702001) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Don Firth Well, crap all!! Next, it'll be the Tooth Fairy and the Great Pumpkin! I gotta find me a better planet. Don Firth |
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24 Mar 06 - 04:13 PM (#1702014) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: SINSULL Many years ago my brother, Pat, decided to scare the crap out of our neighbor's son by pulling a dead, frozen rabbit out of our freezer (don't ask), showing it to little Eddie and announcing "I shot the Easter Bunny!" The neighbors did not see the humor in this. Nor did the bunny rise from the dead on Easter morning and deliver colored eggs and chocolate to all the OTHER good little boys and girls who lived in our home. This same brother also cut out December 25th from a wall calendar and announced that he had stolen Christmas...another apology. |
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24 Mar 06 - 05:13 PM (#1702055) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Peace You think YOU got problems. My cousin works in a fertility clinic and someone hid all the eggs. |
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24 Mar 06 - 05:28 PM (#1702065) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Bert LOL, nice one Peace. |
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24 Mar 06 - 05:46 PM (#1702082) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Liz the Squeak Huge big Pedant alert!!!! Among Latin speaking Christians, the week beginning with the feast of the Resurrection was known as 'hebdomada alba' - white week - from the habit of newly baptised Christians wearing their white christening robes that week. The week was konwn as 'albae' (white). According to German scholar J Knoblech, when the word was translated into German, it was mistaken for the plural of alba, meaning dawn, and so the 'white' connection was forgotten. They accordingly rendered it as Eostarum, which is Old High German for 'dawn'. Thus came the word 'Easter' in English. (From 'The Pedant's Revolt', Andrea Barham) So no goddesses or bunnies there then. LTS |
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24 Mar 06 - 05:50 PM (#1702087) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: frogprince Every once in a while, "PC" doesn't seem to stand for "pitifully confused". This isn't one of those times. |
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24 Mar 06 - 05:59 PM (#1702100) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Snuffy Old Herr Knoblech did well to publish it in 1959 as according to the ZfW english-language website, it did not started publication until 1982! Probably in very early April. |
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24 Mar 06 - 06:16 PM (#1702121) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: GUEST,dianavan LTS - I thought 'hebdomada alba' was the name of the week following the Feast of the Resurrection. If this is so, we are still left with the mystery of where the idea of the Resurrection began. I think it may also have to do with the morning star which is also the evening star, hence the dying and rising. |
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24 Mar 06 - 06:34 PM (#1702145) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: GUEST,dianavan The idea of the dying and rising God goes way back to at least Egypt. Thats why we celebrate Easter. Since the celebration has been passed down to us through time, how it is celebrated depends on which religion you belong to. It doesn't mean the Easter is strictly a Christian event. The non-Christian way of celebrating Easter has been commercialized to include the bunny and the eggs. I'm more interested in the origins of Lent. |
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24 Mar 06 - 06:50 PM (#1702181) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: The Fooles Troupe She: mmm, c'mon... He: No, I can't, it's Lent! She: Well, get it back then! Who did you lend it to? |
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24 Mar 06 - 06:51 PM (#1702183) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Peace I thought that PC stood for pickled canary. Well, live and learn. |
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24 Mar 06 - 07:53 PM (#1702224) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: cool hand Tom Thing is My son is half black hence my ex jamaican.I am so pissed of at baa baa black sheep being banned,easter bunnys etc etc,My daughter has a golly doll which she loves and she gets on lovely with her stepbrother,she dosent think in black and white unless its made an issue of,which it is often lately,religion too.The whole thing fucks me right off because all this religious pc etc makes my kids notice things that they would not do normally.Im English of german decent and dont give a shite what some religious minorites think anymore as it is getting so ridiculus.To me this whole thing is bringing about a wedge in society i dont give a shit for religion race etc,we is all humans and thats the way i think.I dont know the answer just know it affects my children.all i know is something aint working. Regards |
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24 Mar 06 - 07:55 PM (#1702225) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: cool hand Tom itll all end in tears, riots and bullets. |
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25 Mar 06 - 02:06 AM (#1702356) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Purple Foxx Even huger,bigger,pedant alert! "hebdomada alba" gave us Whitsuntide rather than Easter.Methinks Herr Knoblech did not allow the facts to spoil a good story. |
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25 Mar 06 - 05:32 AM (#1702402) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Liz the Squeak Whitsun comes from the habit of, at Pentecost, Confirming people into the Christian church - and wearing white to signify they were being 'born again' - it represented their pure christening robes. In the Liturigal sense, Easter is not just one day, but lasts for about 50 days. The whole of the Easter period is white - church altars are dressed in white and gold from Easter Day through to Pentecost (Pentekoste, 50 days), some traditions have a break for red at Ascension (40 days later - the word for many was mistranslated as 40). Whitsun/Pentecost are also popular feasts for baptisms.... Whitsun is quite a modern term as far as language is concerned and is still part of the Easter celebrations. Herr Knoblech wasn't as romantic as you think! LTS I can p!ss further up the wall than you can!! |
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25 Mar 06 - 06:21 AM (#1702422) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Purple Foxx Firm possibility of a definite maybe LTS,However the word "Ishtar" predates "Eostarum" by...oooooh,yonks (and possibly longer) Furthermore my Venerable Bede (local lad made good)is bigger than your gullible Knoblech (a name to conjure with) & will get him at playtime. Did you have a particular wall in mind? Hadrian's is good for me. PF Tongue in cheek. Thumb up bum. Brain in neutral. |
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25 Mar 06 - 06:23 AM (#1702424) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: The Fooles Troupe I'm impressed M'Lady! |
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25 Mar 06 - 06:40 AM (#1702428) Subject: RE: BS: Now it's the bloody Easter Bunny! From: Purple Foxx Oh yes & a happy Lady Day to all our readers. Only 9 months until Christmas so you'd better start shopping. |