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29 Mar 06 - 02:14 PM (#1705842) Subject: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: beardedbruce ( it was just begging to be said...) |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:17 PM (#1705844) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Peace Well, here's a picture of one . . . . |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:37 PM (#1705866) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: beardedbruce or this? |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:47 PM (#1705872) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Little Hawk Romeo and Juliette. Tristan & Isolde. Antony & Cleopatra. Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. Paris (of Troy) and Helen of Troy. Lancelot & Guinevere. Robin Hood and Maid Marion. That's a start. Some of them may be fictional, but so what? |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:48 PM (#1705877) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Rapparee Like these? |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:49 PM (#1705879) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Peace Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:50 PM (#1705881) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: beardedbruce Dante and Beatrice? "Beatrice Portinari (1266 - 1290), born in Florence, Italy, is the principal inspiration for Dante Alighieri's Vita Nova. She also appears as his guide in "La Divina Commedia" (The Divine Comedy) both in the first book, "L'Inferno" (The Inferno) and in the second half of "Purgatorio" (Purgatory) as well as the whole of the "Paradiso" (Paradise). Beatrice must take over as guide from the Latin poet Virgil because Virgil was born a pagan and cannot enter Paradise. Her birth name is Bice Portinari, the daughter of Folco Portinari. Dante met her when his father took him to the Portinari house for a May-Day party. Dante was instantly smitten with her and remained so throughout her life even though she married a banker, Simone dei Bardi, in 1287. She died three years in June of 1290 at the age of 24. But Dante continued to hold an abiding love and respect for the woman after her death, even though Dante himself married Gemma Donati in 1285 and had his own children. After Beatrice's death, Dante withdrew into intense study and began composing poems dedicated to her memory. The collection of these new-found poems along with others he had previously written in his journal in awe of Beatrice became La Vita Nuova. Beatrice Portinari has been immortalized not only in Dante's poems but in paintings by Pre-Raphaelite masters and poets. [edit] Relationship with Dante Beatrice's influence on Dante's work belies the fact that they only met twice during her life. Dante first met Beatrice in Florence, his home city, when he was nine years old and she was eight, around 1274. She was dressed in a soft crimson cloth, and wore a girdle about her waist. Dante instantly fell in love with her, thinking of her as angelic with divine and noble qualities. Following their first meeting, Dante was so enthralled by Beatrice that he later wrote in La Vita Nuova: Ecce Deus fortior me, qui veniens dominabitur mihi ("Behold, a deity stronger than I; who coming, shall rule over me.") Indeed, she did and Dante frequented parts of Florence, his home city, where he thought he might catch even a glimpse of her. As he did so, he made great efforts to ensure his thoughts of Beatrice remained private, even writing poetry for another lady, so as to use her as a "screen for the truth". Dante's courtly love for Beatrice continued for nine years, before the pair finally met again. This meeting occurred in a street of Florence, which she walked along dressed in white and flanked by two older women. She turned and greeted him. Her greeting filled him with such joy that he retreated to his room, to think about her. In doing so, he fell asleep, and had a dream which would become the subject of the first sonnet in La Vita Nuova." |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:53 PM (#1705883) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Peace J Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson. |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:54 PM (#1705884) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: beardedbruce Peace- Popular? |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:54 PM (#1705885) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Little Hawk Wow. That's romance. |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:55 PM (#1705886) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Peace LOL. Yeah, yer right. Strike Hoover and Tolson. |
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29 Mar 06 - 02:57 PM (#1705889) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: jacqui.c Victoria and Albert? |
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29 Mar 06 - 03:30 PM (#1705904) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST Hsing-Hsing & Ling-Ling |
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29 Mar 06 - 03:30 PM (#1705906) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST,Bill D where did my cookie go? That was me. |
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29 Mar 06 - 03:32 PM (#1705908) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Peace Lord Greystoke and Jane Porter |
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29 Mar 06 - 03:34 PM (#1705911) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Peace John Carter and Dejah Thoris |
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29 Mar 06 - 03:37 PM (#1705916) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Little Hawk Chongo and Miss Laura, back in 40's Chicago. (but that one was never consummated) |
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29 Mar 06 - 03:41 PM (#1705920) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Don Firth Cyrano de Bergerac and the lovely Roxanne, even though Roxanne didn't know it until it was too late. (sniff) Don Firth |
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29 Mar 06 - 04:03 PM (#1705947) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: number 6 The Emperor ShahJahan and Mumtaz Mahal. sIx |
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29 Mar 06 - 04:10 PM (#1705951) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: pdq Joan Baez and herself? |
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29 Mar 06 - 04:11 PM (#1705954) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: kendall Lord Nelson and Emma Hamilton |
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29 Mar 06 - 05:11 PM (#1706003) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Rapparee The famous librarian Giacomo Girolamo Casanova and a whole bunch of women. |
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29 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM (#1706136) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: cool hand Tom Napoleon and josephine |
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29 Mar 06 - 09:49 PM (#1706173) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Azizi King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson See this calypso song written by Rufus Callender (Caresser). LOVE, LOVE ALONE It was love; love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne On the 10th of December we heard the talk He gave his throne to the Duke of York It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne King Edward was noble, King Edward was great it was love that caused him to abdicate It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne He said he was sorry that his Mommy would grieve he cannot help it, he would have to leave It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne You can take his power you can take his bought leave him with his yachting boat It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne Ha,love, love, love, love Caused King Edward....... You can take his money you can take his store but leave him that lady from Baltimore It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne I don’t know what Mrs Simpson got in her bone that caused the king to leave his throne It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne On the 10th of December 1936 the Duke of Windsor went to get his kicks It was love; love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love; love, love, love, love, love, love, love love, love, it was love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love; love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love, love, love, love, lova alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love; love alone cause the king to leave his throne It was love, love, love, love, love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love, (Sound of a double kiss) love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love, (Sound of a double kiss) love alone Caused King Edward to leave his throne It was love, love, love; love, lova love... -snip- lyrics source: http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/h/harrybelafonte5505/itwaslovelovealone366255.html "Edward VIII." {Love, Love Alone} Written by Rufus Callender (Caresser). Sung by the Duke of Iron, Lord Invader and Macbeth the Great. Accompanied by Gerald Clark and His Invaders. Originally recorded at Town Hall, New York, 1946. Click http://www.calypsoworld.org/noflash/songs-3.htm for more info on this historical romance and this song; there's also an audio clip of this song. |
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29 Mar 06 - 10:36 PM (#1706198) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Bee-dubya-ell Ones like these are pretty popular. |
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30 Mar 06 - 12:05 AM (#1706253) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST,me Adolf and Eva. Well, they were popular in some circles anyway. |
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30 Mar 06 - 12:25 AM (#1706261) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Little Hawk Mussolini and Clara Petacci. Joan Baez and Bob Dylan. Bob and Sara Dylan. Leonard Cohen and Marianne. |
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30 Mar 06 - 12:30 AM (#1706263) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST,me Popeye and Olive Oil Bluto and Olive Oil Mickey and Minnie Donald and Daisy Bert and Ernie Boris and Natasha |
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30 Mar 06 - 01:02 AM (#1706276) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Bert Words & Music: Jake Thackray He was small and baggy-trousered, he was nondescript and shy, But in his breast there burned a sacred flame, For women melted and surrendered when they looked into his eyes. (Little Billy Kershaw was the name, by the way, He worked as a country ploughman, so they say.) Oh Lothario and Casanova, mighty Don Juan, Those legendary goats of days of yore - Billy was better, with his eyes closed, on one leg and with no hands! (A trick which he could actually perform, by the way, Spectacular, but dodgy, so they say.) He never did it for the profit of it, never for applause, Only the silvery laughter that it caused. There was a difference in that Billy Kershaw never picked the best, The beautiful, the golden ones that most men would, But the ugly ones, the poorest, the despised, the dispossessed. (Where else would a hunchback get a cuddle, by the way? Harelips can kiss, or so they say.) And so the shop-girl with the whiskers, or the limping shepherdess, The squinting barmaid (her with the pocky skin), Even the horse-like countess with the teeth and meagre breasts (Which in fact had often harboured Billy's chin, by the way, Haughty but snug, so they say). He never did it for the profit of it, never for applause, Only the common comfort that it caused. Many a poor distracted Catholic, rating Billy over Lourdes, Came smiling down his staircase, all her frenzy gone. And the husband, far from angry, would be chuffed that she was cured (And buy him a pint in the local later on, by the way; Horses for courses, as they say). He responded to the colonel's widow's desperate appeal In the colonel's house upon the colonel's tiger skin, And in the potter's shop, the potter's wife upon the potter's wheel (Which was steadily continuing to spin, by the way, A right tour de force, so they say). But never ever for the profit of it, never the applause, Only the passing happiness it caused. But soon the news of Billy Kershaw and his life-enhancing powers Became across the county widely known, And by his cottage gate the coachloads waited patiently for hours. (The drivers made a bundle going home, by the way, Their caps were full of silver, so they say.) And the village did a roaring trade in teas and souvenirs, In ash trays and the local watercress. Until Billy, disillusioned, simply ups and disappears. (Leaving no forwarding address, by the way, Could be anywhere at all, or so they say.) But it was not for the profit of it, not for the applause, Only the consolation that it caused. If there should be a sad, neglected, wretched woman in your life, It could well be that Billy's near at hand; Perhaps your auntie or your daughter, or your mother or your wife. (And when did you last see your grandma, by the way? No genuine case is ever turned away.) He's no rascal, he's no charlatan, no mountebank, no snob; Whoever you are, he'll treat you just the same. He is small and baggy-trousered, and he does a tidy job. (Little Billy Kershaw is the name, by the way; He worked as a country ploughman, so they say.) But never ever for the profit of it, never the applause, Only the common comfort that it caused. If you find that Billy's ballad is extravagant, or trite, Offensive, irrelevant, or untrue, That may well be, but here's a moral which will make us feel all right (A moral which may well apply to you, by the way; Takes one to know one, as they say). If you're ugly, if you're weak, or meek, or queer, form a queue And the rest of us will travel from afar And systematically we'll do to you what Billy used to do - But more regular and always twice as hard, by the way, Mea culpa, mea culpa, as they used to say. |
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30 Mar 06 - 02:36 AM (#1706322) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Paul Burke How about Elvira Madigan and Sixten Sparre? Sorgerliga saker hända Än i våra dar minsann, Sorgerligast är dock denna - Den om fröken Madigan. Vacker var hon som en ängel: Ögon blå och kind så röd, Smärt om livet som en stängel; Men hon fick en grymmer död. När hon dansade på lina Lik en liten lärka glad, Hördes bifallsropen vina Ifrån fyllda bänkars rad. Så kom greve löjtnant Sparre, Vacker var han, utav börd, Ögon lyste, hjärtan darre, Och hans kärleksbön blev hörd. Greve Sparre han var gifter, Barn och maka hade han, Men från dessa han nu rymde, Med Elvira Madigan. Så till Danmark styrdes färden. Men det tog ett sorgerligt slut, Ty långt ut i vida världen Tänkte de att slå sig ut. Men se slut var deras pengar, Ingenting att leva av! För att undgå ödet stränga Bygga de sitt bo i grav. Och pistolen full av smärta Greven tar och sikte tog Mot Elviras unga hjärta: Knappt hon andas, förr´n hon dog. Ack mig hör, Ni ungdomsglada, Tänk på dem och sen Er för Att Ni ej i blod få bada Ni ock en gång, förr´n Ni dör! |
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30 Mar 06 - 02:59 AM (#1706329) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: ard mhacha Tony Blair and herself. |
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30 Mar 06 - 03:32 AM (#1706337) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Big Al Whittle Ken Masters and Jan Howard |
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30 Mar 06 - 04:18 AM (#1706362) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Paul Burke Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. Abelard and Heloise. The Three Musketeers (we haven't had them have we?) Oscar and Bosie. Ian Paisley and Pope Paul VI. Richard and Judy. Charles and Diana. Charles and Camilla. Humbert and Lolita. |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:06 AM (#1706376) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Purple Foxx Homer & Marge. Catherine the Great & anything with a pulse. |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:11 AM (#1706381) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Paul Burke Hummous? Tarka dhal? Thick pea soup? |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:14 AM (#1706382) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Kweku Bush and Rice? Bush and Blair? BTW,can anyone give me a very good history of Antony and Cleopatra. Peace, BIG UP MAN! |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:20 AM (#1706390) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST Bonnie and Clyde. Adam and Eve and Pinch-Me-Bum. |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:26 AM (#1706393) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Kweku I seem to be all about asking questions today,pardon me;but who is Bonnie and Clyde?.if my memory serves me right I think they were lovers running away from the law. |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:36 AM (#1706396) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST Wikipedia is your first call... |
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30 Mar 06 - 05:55 AM (#1706413) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Emma B Jean Paul Satre and Simone de Beauvoir life-long friends and mutual critics - buried in the same grave |
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30 Mar 06 - 06:44 AM (#1706439) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: ard mhacha Quarcoo, another question,how long were you in the Monastery?. |
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30 Mar 06 - 02:13 PM (#1706830) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST,me Barnacle Bill & the Fair Young Maiden. |
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30 Mar 06 - 02:17 PM (#1706835) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Bert actually ard, Quarcoo is in Africa. |
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30 Mar 06 - 04:11 PM (#1706925) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Scoville Lord Byron and . . . |
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30 Mar 06 - 07:42 PM (#1707071) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Ebbie Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash? |
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31 Mar 06 - 12:37 AM (#1707252) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: GUEST,thurg Since nobody's deigned to answer Quarcoo: Bonnie & Clyde were American bank robbers active in the 1920's or so. As was often the case in that era, they seem to have become minor folk heroes, although the general understanding is that Clyde at least was something of a psychopath. Bonnie occasionally wrote letters to newspapers giving their side of the story, sometimes including a doggerel poem. They were killed by lawmen in a spectacular ambush. There was a popular movie, "Bonnie & Clyde", with Warren Beatty and - Faye Dunway? - made in the 1960's. |
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31 Mar 06 - 03:13 AM (#1707307) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Kweku now that I have had the chance to read the full story of Bonnie and Clyde,I think they were indeed great lovers. Thurg,interestingly I have watched the film before, but I was very young at that time,but one thing I remember about the movie is when Bonnie took a picture with a rose flower stuck between the teeth and then the police modified it to make it look like a cigar. Great story. |
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31 Mar 06 - 02:01 PM (#1707696) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: ard mhacha It just shows how wrong you can be, here`s me thinking that Bonnie and Clyde were the two great wing-men that played for Rangers in the Scottish League, you live and learn. |
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31 Mar 06 - 06:57 PM (#1707904) Subject: RE: BS: Most popular historical lovers... From: Big Al Whittle I'd like to recommend a book caleed 'Don't Call us Molls' by Ellen Poulson. Whilst being very compassionate towards the lawmen killed by characters like Clyde Barrow and John Dillinger - American bank robbers of the 1930's - Poulson has written a truly fascinating book about the relationships of these men's women - obviously Bonnie Parker, but also Billy Frechette and John Dillinger and even more interesting Mary Kinder and Harry Pierpont. Pierpont was the only one of the Dillinger gang to die in the electric chair. Its a moving and harrowing account of these intense and fated relationships. the photographs and letters are absolutely ace in the hole. |
