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26 May 06 - 10:05 AM (#1747862) Subject: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: GutBucketeer Recently, I've gotten a little fed up with the trend of over protective parenting and only exposing kids to politically correct ideas in songs. Clean your room, recycle, don't pollute, play nice. Ughh. How come everything that we did as kids that was fun is now considered SO Wrong. I remember sitting in my dad's lap and "driving" his car all the time, as a kid. It was fun! It provided a great moment with my dad! Now Britney Spears is some sort of monster for doing it with her son. So here's the challenge: Are there songs out there about kids doing non-PC stuff, having fun, and surviving? Would anyone like to write one? What did you do as a kid that falls into this category that could be put into a song? For example we: Poured gas on the sidewalk and lit it. Poured Alchohol on our hands and lit it (it doesn't hurt, until the alcholol starts running out). Played in the attic with gunpowder from black cats and old shotgun shells. Made our own gunpowder, flashpowder, and fireworks. (notice a theme here). Went spelunking in the storm sewers of Houston in the dry season. Swam in the flood waters of the bayous and storm sewers in rainy season. Slid down laundry shoots of empty houses for sale on the block. and the list goes on. Climbed up the outsides of parking garages. And guess what: We were the good kids, and we survived. :-) JAB |
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26 May 06 - 10:41 AM (#1747886) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: harpmolly You know the tired old adage, "Don't play with sticks, you could poke your eye out"? Well, my uncle has a glass eye. Yup, childhood stick incident. Even urban legends have to start somewhere. You and your friends were very lucky. M |
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26 May 06 - 10:52 AM (#1747899) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: Paul Burke Did he get ripped open by a badger, too? |
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26 May 06 - 11:59 AM (#1747946) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: frogprince I can do decent realistic drawings, but just can't seem to do cartoons, or I would have drawn this up sometime since thinking of it several years ago. Anyone here want to run with it? A child, a first or second grader, sits in the front of the classroom; he is saying, "'You'll poke your eye out, she said'; but would I listen? 'You'll break your neck', she said; but would I listen?" He is wearing an eye patch, and a cervical collar. The caption at the bottom reads, " Primary school administrators across the nation are keeping a close watch on Plunkerville's new 'Scared Good' initiative." |
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26 May 06 - 12:38 PM (#1747961) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: katlaughing I knew a kid who played chicken with his brothers. They'd take turns putting a finger on the chopping block and hope to get it off before the ax came down. At 7 years old he was without the top halves of two fingers and his brother felt terrible. Yeah, we did some wild things, but I sure wouldn't dream of letting my grandson do such things, now. The world is different, now, imo. That said, have you read the children's book called "Snot Stew?"? |
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26 May 06 - 12:45 PM (#1747965) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: Scoville I had a pretty tame childhood but if somebody wants ideas, you're welcome to whatever you can use: I don't recall lighting things on fire but my dad turned us loose with hammers and nails at young ages (my favorite was the ball peen, which was the only one he had that was small enough for me to manage when I was three). We also spent a considerable amount of time climbing trees unsupervised and eating plants that might or might not have been technically edible (did you know that tulip buds are sweet?). We also burned a lot of stuff with magnifying glasses. I'm told doing this to plastic releases cyanide fumes but, eh, nobody has died yet. My father's idea of "bedtime stories" included The Hound of the Baskervilles, the story of Odysseus and the cyclops, and the saga of the forest fire that destroyed Hinckley, Minnesota, in 1894, complete with all the gory details he knew. I think I was just old enough to be pre-Raffi so my parents taught me "Jesse James", "Captain Kidd", "Joe Hill", and "Lightning Bar Blues" instead. I knew all the words by age five. I guess "child-appropriate" is in the eyes of the beholder. |
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26 May 06 - 01:01 PM (#1747975) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Stupid is as stupid does. I'm sure many of us have done things similar to those that Gutbuckteer, but don't start on that "overprotective parenting" crap. Being cautious and teaching kids not to be as stupid as we were is something that more people should be doing. Just because one person was lucky does not guarantee everyone will have the same results. We used to play on the railroad tracks as kids. Until one kid did not see or hear a train coming and was too paralyzed with fear to get away in time. Would you like to tell the parents of an 8 year old that their child was ripped apart by a train? We can laugh at the mischief we got away with, but that doesn't make it right. |
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26 May 06 - 09:58 PM (#1748259) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: GutBucketeer While I highlighted some of my child hood' more stupid adventures for effect, there are a lot of things that we did that were appropriate, let us have a since of adventure and accomplishment, were unsupervised, and let us build confidence in ourselves over time. Of course, I would never advocate giving kids gasoline and matches, or grinding flashpowder dry (It flashed on us two times resulting in two trips to the hospital). But sheesh, today's world IS over surpervised, over scheduled, and over protected. As a result, the kids often feel that they can't do anything on their own. It also has lost its sense of humor. There are tons of old songs, such as Guess I'll Go Eat Worms, that my band could never play at a school, or even at a festival on a "family stage" without someone saying they were inappropriate. Instead we get the "mind messengers" in bright pink and purple vests spouting "educational songs" that are "good for the kids" . Yuck! I would love to do a whole set of fun of all the fun inappropriate songs that kids enjoy and get their parents up in arms and chasing me around like a frankenstein monster. 'nuff said JAB |
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26 May 06 - 11:35 PM (#1748280) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: katlaughing But sheesh, today's world IS over surpervised, over scheduled, and over protected. As a result, the kids often feel that they can't do anything on their own. It also has lost its sense of humor. I totally agree with that; it also stifles their imagination and gives rise to complaints of being "bored." Thanks for clarifying a bit. kat |
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27 May 06 - 03:21 AM (#1748309) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: The Fooles Troupe Mr Dahl succeeded admirably in creating stories for kids in thevein you suggest, GB... now as for songs... |
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30 May 06 - 02:24 PM (#1750173) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: Mo the caller Ever seen Keith Donnolly. He's made picking his nose into an art form. I avoid him, hundreds of kids follow him round every folk festival campsite. |
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30 May 06 - 06:32 PM (#1750299) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: GUEST,Val ...today's world IS over surpervised, over scheduled, and over protected. As a result, the kids often feel that they can't do anything on their own Actually, kids DO all manner of non-PC things... in video games. It's not just ants they burn with a magnifying glass in the sun, it's aunts (and uncles and innocent bystanders) using a flamethrower. Of course, this innocent play in the virtual world does not carry with it any significant consequences like trips to the hospital or scars or having to ride your bicycle with the handlebars twisted from a crash or even getting grounded (much less spanked) - so the lessons learned are far different. I guess we'd better get used to the notion of operating in a virtual world, though. Some rock/pop bands are starting to do "live" concerts in cyberspace. I wonder how long it'll be before someone opens a "Virtual Acoustic Folk Club" in Second Life? |
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30 May 06 - 07:28 PM (#1750324) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: open mike ah ha so p.c. means politically correct, not personal computer? |
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30 May 06 - 08:36 PM (#1750352) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: GUEST,Joe_F I was brought up on a very bourgeois propaganda songbook, Irving Caesar's _Sing a Song of Safety_ (1937): A boy stood on the railroad tracks, and didn't hear the bell; I'd like to tell you the rest of the tale, But it's too sad to tell, so: Stay away from the railroad tracks, That isn't the place to play; For trains go fast when they go past, And you might be in the way! Talking to the driver May make him turn his head, He must watch the traffic lights, Are they green or red? People who are walking, He has to watch them, too, But if you keep on talking, He'll be watching you; So try to hold your chatter, Let him concentrate, Does it really matter, Won't your question wait? Try to help the driver, Use some common sense, And you may help to save us From many accidents. Remember your name and address, And telephone number too, Then if someday you lose your way, You'll know just what to do; Walk up to that kind policeman, The very first one you meet, And simply say, "I've lost my way, I cannot find my street, But I know my name and address, And telephone number too," Then he'll be kind, and help you find The dear ones who wait for you. --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net ||: The difference between people & cats is that cats know what people are for. :|| |
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30 May 06 - 09:55 PM (#1750372) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: The Fooles Troupe "I wonder how long it'll be before someone opens a "Virtual Acoustic Folk Club" " Been done (Paltalk Rooms) - except at moment, the technology only allows everybody else to listen while one source performs.... hey! that solves lots of problems... :-) Yahoo Chat also allows such things - so when we having the next Open Room? |
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31 May 06 - 12:35 AM (#1750413) Subject: RE: Challenge/Req : Non-PC kids activities From: katlaughing Joe F, THANKS for those! |