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BS: The mudcat think tank

29 May 06 - 09:17 AM (#1749378)
Subject: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Donuel

Think tanks. To me a think tank implies being seperated from reality. What an bizarre image. People sealed in a tank and thinking up new things...

Things like what to do with expensive storage of deadly nuclear waste?: Call it "Depleted", put it in bullets and bombs and use it to blow up Islamic countries.


How about solving the abortion issue via a typical think tank solution...

Buy the babies slated for abortion for $500 and delivery costs, raise them by the state for future military service. Feed them steroids and deploy fully grown adult soldies at age 14.

Yes it sounds far fetched and evil but actually no more so than depleted uranium thinking.

There are people here who have been part of what could be called the mudcat think tank who have had some great ideas that could and should be heard by the entire world. Sure we all have a great notion every once in awhile.

Can you think of any of these great ideas that could be focused in this thread?


29 May 06 - 09:46 AM (#1749397)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

Sodium Flouride is a highly deadly toxic waste product, formed in manufacturing things such as aluminium.

Hey, high flouride levels in drinking water may prevent tooth decay!

Let's con all the dentists to push for getting it in all drinking water! Then we'll be able to SELL it to people to put in teh drinling water, instead of having to pay somone to take it away and dump it somewhere... we just won't tell people of possible side effects of excess flouride intake levels...


29 May 06 - 09:51 AM (#1749398)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Peace

Put all elected people on the moon. Place hydrogen bombs under their living quarters. When they make decisions to send kids to war or to rip people off a la Enron or they decide it's OK to forgive companies for polluting the hell out of this planet, push the button.


29 May 06 - 09:52 AM (#1749399)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Peace

On second though, just put them on the moon and leave them there.


29 May 06 - 09:58 AM (#1749400)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

Hey, we got this great cheap stuff that we invented as a military poison, that some guy spilt in his face, and as he died, his last words were, "Hey guys, it's really sweet!".

Let's sell it as a sugar replacement - the rats don;t died is they only get the equivalent of a couple of teaspoons of sugar in a couple of cups of tea or coffee a day...

What? they put it in Coco-cola, and now they're drinking gallons of of it a day?

Where's me hat?

I'm not making this up you know....


29 May 06 - 11:37 AM (#1749461)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bill D

Set the experts in brain chemistry and bio-feedback and pharmaceuticals to researching what actually happens when the mind is active and creative, then work on producing a drug that causes uncontrollable itching when the brain is slow, lethargic and dull. Implant this drug in everyone about the age of three.

(Will Rogers once said, when asked about how to stop German submarines during WWII, "that's easy...boil the ocean!" When it was suggested that this was not easy, he replied.."hey, I'm an IDEA man! We have experts to work out the details!")


29 May 06 - 12:37 PM (#1749485)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: beardedbruce

Donuel,

"Things like what to do with expensive storage of deadly nuclear waste?: Call it "Depleted", put it in bullets and bombs and use it to blow up Islamic countries."

You obviously have no idea of what depleted uranium IS. Nor are you showing any knowledge of basic physics.

And it's use was developed to destroy SOVIET tanks and armoured vehicles, during the Cold War.


29 May 06 - 12:47 PM (#1749490)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Curator

If only man would put his head to better things this world would be a nicer place.


29 May 06 - 01:01 PM (#1749497)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Bobert's Department of Peace, which is currently being promoted by Dennis Kucinich. I dunno if there is any connection, though!

A


29 May 06 - 03:34 PM (#1749567)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: nutty

Instead of spending billions on nuclear power, give the boffins a real opportunity to develop power from the only real 'green' alternative .... the sea or any other tidal flow.

It beggers belief that in the 21st century we have not yet been able to solve this one.

We could then use part of the energy produced to power the desalination plants that would alleviate the water crisis.


29 May 06 - 05:40 PM (#1749625)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: jimmyt

Robin, I am afraid you have overstated the SOdium FLuoride issue greatly. THe reality is that many things are dangerous at high levels but are therapeutic and helpful at much lower levels. The reality is that millions and millions of kids do not have toothaches now purely because of sodium fuoride in the drinking water.


29 May 06 - 05:47 PM (#1749633)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Nutty:

Why would sea-current or tidal-current generators be any more "green" than solar or wind based schemes?

A


29 May 06 - 06:20 PM (#1749659)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: frogprince

I wouldn't say tidal power is "greener". But I've seen more days when the wind didn't blow than days without a high tide and low tide.


29 May 06 - 06:34 PM (#1749674)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Depends on where you are. But greenness implies a criterion of renewability without harmful impact on the environment.

A


29 May 06 - 06:38 PM (#1749676)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: TheBigPinkLad

I believe our think tank would do well to expend mental energy on solving the problem of nuclear waste disposal.


29 May 06 - 06:47 PM (#1749681)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Peace

Put the nuclear waste ON the moon with the damned politicians.


29 May 06 - 06:48 PM (#1749682)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Don Firth

Naw. Just forget about tidal power. Dead end.

The moon is gradually drifting away from the earth at a rate of a few millimeters a year. In time, it will be too far away to affect the tides substantially, and any method of producing energy from tides will cease to function. Better just stick with oil. We know we have about forty years worth of that left. . . .

Jed Clampett


29 May 06 - 07:00 PM (#1749691)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST

TV remote locator,have small button on the side of the tv so when you loose the fecking thing you press it and the remote beeps so as your able to locate it.This matters it causes all sorts of conflict,and its always me that gets the fecking blame.

mac


29 May 06 - 07:02 PM (#1749693)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Peace

THAT we can solve. Throw the remote away and change the channels by HAND. I recall doing that when I was younger. It seemed to work OK.


29 May 06 - 07:09 PM (#1749695)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST

I suppose theres always that teletext for the football?cricket,racing.
im telling you it would sell.But your right im a lazy slob sorry.


mac


29 May 06 - 07:10 PM (#1749697)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Peace

LOLOL


29 May 06 - 07:10 PM (#1749698)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: nutty

Amos ... I considered tidal power generation to be 'greener' than wind or solar power because, on a large scale it does not cause the environmental disruption of the other two.

In the UK, huge towering windmills litter scenic moorland and coastal areas and solar powered farms, on the continent, appear to produce miles of black glass.


29 May 06 - 07:28 PM (#1749711)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

Jimmyt

I agree with you - but the bulk of 'council treated and supplied' 'water for drinking' is used to flush toilets, wash cars and water gardens, etc, so it is gradually polluting the environment, getting back into the sea, etc.

The only saving grace is that mankind will have topped himself long before that sort of pollution becomes a serious threat to all life...


29 May 06 - 08:35 PM (#1749734)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Metchosin

Hey you'd better be careful guys, if you get too good at this you might get scooped up by Uncle Sam, just like Skunk Baxter formerly of Steely Dan and the Doobie Bros did.

Seems Skunk liked to fool around with missile defense senarios on his computer in his spare time and someone noticed he was thinking out of the box, so to speak. Apparently he knocked out a 5 page paper on the subject on his little Tandy 200 and the rest is history.

Skunk Baxter, missile defense expert ........and musician.


29 May 06 - 08:43 PM (#1749740)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

That is one awesome video.

A


29 May 06 - 08:58 PM (#1749754)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Metchosin

Just goes to show ya that Nixon had good reason to be frightened of hippies. LOL


29 May 06 - 09:04 PM (#1749756)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Donuel

bearded bruce, and to think I thought you were an ally and knew of the breadth of my actual knowledge of DU.

If you need some let me know.


31 May 06 - 06:39 AM (#1750517)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: beardedbruce

Nope. With a good thorium breeder reactor, I have no need of any DU.

But thanks for thinking of me.


31 May 06 - 07:58 AM (#1750550)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bobert

Okay, I'll throw a few into the mix that I have brought up before:

1. Rebuild the residential areas of New Orleans on large barge/blocks that are so well disguised that you really don't think yer looking at a barge until the storm come and then the entire block floats...

2. Private/public parnerships between prisions and industries where inmates work fir specific companies witha portion of their income, when relevant, going toward restitution to the victims of families of vistims of the crimes they committed... When the inmate has done his time he or she moves right into the same position with the same company in the outside world.

3. Public financing of all political campaigns from dog cvatcher to president and every position in between... This is the only way to restore democracy...

4. A Department of Peace is long overdue...

Yeah those touch on a few that I have bvurnt up some gray matter over...

Now, as fir depleted uranium... The facts about the effects are being withheld... There was doctor at a VA hospital who was zeroing in on the physical effects of vets who had traces of DU in their bodies... When he brought it to the attention of the higher ups he was dismissed...

So, yeah, given the company line, DU isn't a threat... But, like many other comapny lines we've heard over the last few years is just that: a company "line"... There is a thread I started a couple years agop on this so there's no use thrying to highjack Donuel'as perfectly good thread over an issue that has been hashed out in the past...

Bobert


31 May 06 - 08:06 AM (#1750557)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

Bobert, sit down me lad, you're starting to make sense...

Have you been whacking the weeds again?


31 May 06 - 08:13 AM (#1750560)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bobert

A good whack never hurt anyone, fooles-t...


31 May 06 - 08:14 AM (#1750562)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: beardedbruce

Bobert,

1-4. - throw in term limits and I'll go for them all.

As for DU, Donuel brought it up, not me.
"Things like what to do with expensive storage of deadly nuclear waste?: Call it "Depleted", put it in bullets and bombs and use it to blow up Islamic countries."


"Things like what to do with expensive storage of deadly nuclear waste?"

GOOD topic for a thinktank



"Call it "Depleted", put it in bullets and bombs and use it to blow up Islamic countries"

Outright lies, obviously meant for political effect.


31 May 06 - 10:50 AM (#1750613)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

1. Establish a legalrequirement that bills should only include material relevant to their primary intent and the subjects related to it directly -- no hidden off-topic Bill creep allowed.

2. Throw out the entire tax code. Replace same with a national flat tax no greater than 12%, but with no exemptions, neither for church or foundation or school or farm.

   Define the distribution of that 12% to town, county, state and federal recipients and make it a Constituional right to pay no more than that total per year.

   This would so simplify the tax code that hundreds of thousands of qualified IRS employees would suddenly be superfluous. The IRS should place them at the disposal of the Government Accoutability Office, with the duty of analyzing cost-benefit and e3fficiency of government expenditures and eliminating waste and corruption in government finances. That would give gainful employment to half of 'em. The rest can be put to analyzing the economic fall-out from different policies over history -- for example, the costs of war, the costs of consitutional erosion, and other salient policies offered by the overheated loins of swell-headed politicians.

A


31 May 06 - 01:11 PM (#1750672)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Donuel

Good tax ideas Amos but what would we do about taxing multinational corporations. The Corporate Headquarters of Halliburton for example is based in Bermuda and some other obscure Pacific Island so they are not subject to US taxation.


31 May 06 - 01:13 PM (#1750674)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: beardedbruce

Money earned here should be taxed here- if earned elsewhere, taxed by that place.

But easier said than implimented...


31 May 06 - 02:25 PM (#1750716)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bobert

Yeah, BB, I am a believer in federal term limits... This way folks give you their best and they ain't all concerned about gettin' re-elected...

6 years for president

8 years for Senators

6 years fir representative

On the local side, leave it up to them... Some places find it hard to get folks who even want to be on their town councils...


31 May 06 - 07:14 PM (#1750834)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

"Halliburton for example is based in Bermuda and some other obscure Pacific Island so they are not subject to US taxation"

Tax any import by them - if a 'foreign company'... :-)


31 May 06 - 07:17 PM (#1750835)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

One of the basic hassles with the US political system is the fixed terms - parties have planned things terms in advance - whereas when the elections can be called at any time, it's a lot harder to wind up people on just a few weeks notice on fake problems.


01 Jun 06 - 12:34 AM (#1750972)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: dianavan

Think tank?

I think all water should be metered, including car washes.

I think anyone wishing to set up alternate energy should be able to sell it to the grid.

I think nuclear anything should be banned until we find a way to deal with the waste.

I think all garbage should be recycled, re-used or reduced and that all cities should have a program to encourage it.

I think all cars entering a metropolitan area should have to pay a toll each and every time.

I think politicians should stop lying.

I also think that if a president declares war, his children should
have to serve in the military.

I think off-shore tax shelters should be against the law.


01 Jun 06 - 10:47 AM (#1750988)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: freda underhill

Promote extensive music sharing programs between children of different races, different nationalities, different religions.


01 Jun 06 - 10:58 PM (#1751457)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: M.Ted

I think people should be required to reap what they sow. It is supposed to work automatically, but lately a lot of folks have been allowed to slide--you can see the results--so let's make it mandatory!


01 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM (#1751462)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Freddy

Hey. What happened to Amos's Ode to Amos AKA the popularity of the Bush Administration?

Did someone tire of his blowhard drumbeat?


01 Jun 06 - 11:47 PM (#1751467)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Freddy:

It was closed at my request because a small number of vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people kept trying to hijack the thread away from its purpose.

I don't recall doing any blowharding in it -- in fact if my name came up at all it was brought up by this small stupid crowd of negative nabobbery who had nothign to offer but hatefulness and stupidity.

If you like, we can start another one, though.

A


02 Jun 06 - 12:25 AM (#1751474)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Freddy

What was the purpose?


02 Jun 06 - 08:25 AM (#1751612)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Mack

Anybody that disagrees with Amos is vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people.

Conclusions:

A. Amos thinks he is smarter than anybody else.

B. He can dish it out but he can't take it.


02 Jun 06 - 04:51 PM (#1751889)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST

Amos IS smarter than you. That's a given.


02 Jun 06 - 05:10 PM (#1751896)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bobert

Dianavan,

Tolls are terribly regressive...

Case in point...

Laborer who works in the inner city for $10.00 hour makes $80.00 a day gross... Lets say the toll is $2.00 which equals...

...2.8% of the laborer' gross income for the day

Lawyer who works in the inner city makes $100.00 and hour for a gross of $800.00... He pays the same $2.00 toll whcih equals...

... 1/4th of 1% (.0025%)...

But I like yer other ideas...

Bobert


02 Jun 06 - 06:04 PM (#1751921)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Actually, Amos knows a number of people who are clearly and unequivocally smarter than he is.

Usually they can be recognized by their contributions to intelligent conversations. They raise dialogue to higher levels of quality, rather than dragging it down into the grungy back alleys of generalized negativity and character assassination.

I have allowed myself to do a little character assassination on Bush, but -- hell, it was a victimless crime, as he had so little in the first place.

A


02 Jun 06 - 06:08 PM (#1751926)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST

"In America, anyone can be President. THAT'S the problem."

George Carlin


02 Jun 06 - 09:55 PM (#1751999)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Don Firth

Amos is definitely on the upper end of the bell curve. I believe the purpose of the "Popularity of the Bush Administration" thread was to promote an informed electorate. Now, some folks object to that sort of thing ("I wonder why that is," he said, naïvely), but Thomas Jefferson thought it was a good idea. In fact, he said that democracy can't survive without it.

Another quote worth considering: "Never in our history has an incumbent administration relied so heavily on the intellectual sluggishness of the electorate." --Bill Maher. He may not have the status of Jefferson, but it's a helluva quote nevertheless.

But in the meantime, back to the Mudcat think-tank:   

I think that people with multiple personalities should share them with people who don't have any.

Don Firth


02 Jun 06 - 11:46 PM (#1752016)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

There, at least is something that the Prez and Veep are doing right. Karl is obviously sharing part of one of his many moronic identities with the marionette President.


A


03 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM (#1752141)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Mack

Do those people who are clearly and unequivocally smarter than Amos ever disagree with him?

If so they are vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people.

He constantly talks down to anyone that questions his judgment. He this his purpose in life is to judge and criticize but he takes the arrogant position that he is immune to any criticism. Anybody that points this out is termed rather dull-witted not-quite bright. Not smart enough to grasp the fact that Amos knows it all.

I am sorry but I do not see the Emperor's new clothes and I am not afraid to say so.

By the way I think Bush totally has his head up his ass on what to do about illegal immigrants. Notice the key words "I think". If anybody disagrees they are invited to say so. I won't try to assume Greek God status and call them stupid for doing so.

The only people I call stupid are the ones that think they are so smart they can define themselves.

M


03 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM (#1752267)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST

'Anybody that points this out is termed rather dull-witted not-quite bright.'

In your case it's true.


03 Jun 06 - 02:13 PM (#1752281)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Mack:

You do me great disservice.

I have never called anyone stupid for countering any opinion of my with some kind of coherent and articulate argument based on facts or a genuine desire to exchange opinions. I think if you look down the back trail you will find I have gotten into that sort of fire-fight with people who resort to gross mischaracterizations, ad hominem attacks, and poorly done rhetorical devices which don't get said what they may think.

Your last comment is really intriguing. I think I know what you mean, but I could be wrong. I think, at one level, that everyone defines themselves -- at least, in the final analysis, I don't see where else the formative definition of who you are could possibly come from.

But clarify for me -- where does your self get its definition from?

A


03 Jun 06 - 08:30 PM (#1752425)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Mack

No Amos. You just declare that their argument lacks merit (by your standards) and there fore does not matter.

I don't consider "This man is a fucking MAROOOON!" coherent and articulate. Does it meet your standards for articulate and coherent?

No one can or should try to define themselves but I perceive you as riding a high horse and full of phony self serving philosophical bullshit and self righteousness. Does your understanding of "Avatar" make you deserving of such stature?

It sort of reminds me of the guy that nailed up a piece of clothes line and declared it art. Of course all of the self declared art lovers had to agree. Excuuuuuse me but all I see is some rope.

Even Einstein questioned himself. He said in essence that nuclear fission could not happen but when someone, not even of his caliber, Szilard, explained to him his theory of how fission could occur, He realized he was wrong and wrote a letter to President Roosevelt warning him of the danger of an atomic bomb

Now who is smarter than you and have they ever told you that you were wrong?

Did you ever choke on anything?

Mack


03 Jun 06 - 09:01 PM (#1752437)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: freda underhill

Amos

I read & enjoyed that Bush administration thread very much, and am sorry it was brought down by nasties.

re the think tank

just back from Austria (this is my current mantra!) where recycling is legislated. EVERYONE separates plastics, biodegradables, and other rubbish. It goes into three small bins in the kitchen and three large bins in every street.

freda


03 Jun 06 - 09:06 PM (#1752439)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

"Excuuuuuse me but all I see is some rope. ... Even Einstein questioned himself."

Which only proves that you are very courageous and proud in insisting on retaining a very narrow minded view of the world...

sigh...


03 Jun 06 - 11:42 PM (#1752517)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Mack:

"No-one should try to define themselves." Interesting thought. Why not?

You are right, I have cast ad hominem slurs on Mister Bush, and I have called him a maroon. You may be too young to recognize the provenance of that phrase from early Warner Brothers cartoons. But I think if you look at the places where I made such remarks they each are in a context which makes it quite clear what prompted the remark.

As for "declaring arguments lack merit" unilaterally, I remember doing that once -- perhaps you posted something under another alias that I was disrespectful about? If you want to tell me about, it feel free. I believe I have good reasons for saying what I do and am always glad to expound on them, if you're really interested. My sense is that you're not, though -- probably just pissed off.

As regards questioning myself, believe me, I do it often. But thanks for the challenge. I'll chew it over some.

A


04 Jun 06 - 07:27 AM (#1752636)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

And when you don't Amos, rest assured there will be a long queue...
:-)

You could always tell this guy to get in the Far Queue...


04 Jun 06 - 10:52 AM (#1752715)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Bill

That which we call a piece of rope by any other name be something other than a piece of rope?


04 Jun 06 - 11:23 AM (#1752730)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Frank

2 major issues. The iraqi occupation and the stealing of the American vote.

Connect the dots.

Frank


04 Jun 06 - 12:14 PM (#1752767)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus

And the South shall rise agin cause we didn't loose.


04 Jun 06 - 01:10 PM (#1752795)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

I think you mean "lose", Rufus.

"Loose" means not fully attached or not tightly connected... which may be appropriate...


A


05 Jun 06 - 11:56 AM (#1753347)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST

Inbreeding. No point arguing, Amos.


05 Jun 06 - 12:05 PM (#1753353)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus

What does inbreeding mean? Like fried chiken?


05 Jun 06 - 12:37 PM (#1753373)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Back to the topic, the Mudcat Think Tank is a good place to put some of the bright possibilities for a better future down, given that some of the brightest and best-intentioned people in the world visit these pages... just don't ask which ones! :D

For example, what are the best avenues to resolve the major crises of planetary life in this century?

One such crisis is that homo sapiens gets violent when threatened by lack or loss. But he tends to be less so when engaged in self-determined productive activity which enhances his survival. The critical resources for expanding that ability (and thus reducing violence) are water and energy. Given enough of those two things, almost anything is possible, including terraforming the deserts to render them arable.

Of course, the kind of social inventions needed to make technical solutions possible and viable is also an issue -- for example, breaking the lock on alternative enrgy usage imposed by vested interests. OR somehow breaking the "catastrophic greed" syndrome that has ruined the great nations of whales, seals, sea-birds and molluscs which once populated the oceans of the North. The sad history of the Canadian governments protection of seal-slaughtering and rampant overfishing comes to mind.

Come one, come all.

A


05 Jun 06 - 12:58 PM (#1753386)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,the inventor

Acoustic lensing of water fracturing ultra sound will become many factors cheaper than current electrolosis that requires much more electricity than my ultra sound cavitation technique to produce hydrogen for fuel cells.


05 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM (#1753409)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Amos

Dear GtI:

Have you reduced this to practice? Can you,. if so, provide some numbers reflecting energy in (in joules) and hydrogen-based energy produced?

I find your remark mostinteresting, because I have often thought the right cavitation frequency of ultrasound should enable a profitable input/output ratio, but have never had time to reduce it to practice.

A


05 Jun 06 - 02:58 PM (#1753443)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus

Horses an buggys. Wood stoves. Grow your own food etc.


05 Jun 06 - 07:43 PM (#1753641)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

We already have too many, we don't need to grow any more fools..


05 Jun 06 - 08:54 PM (#1753693)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: beardedbruce

Guest, Rufus,

An excellent idea. Of course, the earth could only support about 1/10 the present population- So I presume you won't mind if I decide which 9 out of 10 have to go away? (SARCASM)


05 Jun 06 - 09:07 PM (#1753699)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Bobert

Yo, Rufus...

When did you get a pudder??? Sheeeet, boy, yer movin' up in the world, ain't ya, son??? How's the lovely Rether May??? They still havin' that Saturday night chuggun' party behind the Sweat Springs Store up top the mountain...

Hey, wait a minute... Wood stoves??? Well, yeah but you was never into growin' yer own food.... Sheeeet fire, boy.... You done fooled me....

Ahhhhhh, hmmmmmmmm??? You is Rufus Timpkins, ain't cha???

(Think you got yerseff mixerated up there, Bobert...)

Nevermind...

Bobert (prolly not yer couzin...)


05 Jun 06 - 09:33 PM (#1753727)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus

Who???

Grow your own. Roll your own and still your own dew.


05 Jun 06 - 11:48 PM (#1753844)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: Thomas the Rhymer

Let the masters decree in the third degree
We may live with a portion of peace
So all people may see...and albeit agree
That aggression must finally cease

With a peacetime enduring we shall be insuring
A future both caring and deep
And in beauty procuring sweet passion's alluring
To lift us inspired from our sleep

May walking in stride with Jesus give pride
That heals with knowing and faith
With such kindness inside everyone can abide
To the conscience that brings us to grace

Shall we wish to enjoy with nary a ploy
The enrichment of land, seas and souls
Ner again to deploy revenge as a toy
To entangle our love with false goals

So as One with our hearts we could move from Decartes
And take science to where it may florish
We shall all play our parts without help from Sartre's
And find meaning in all that we nourish

So if thinking be good, seems t'me that it could
Let's agree then we've outgrown this box
For it's well understood that we can and we should
Graduate from this school of hard knocks

ttr


07 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM (#1755481)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus

The bestest ideas I have heard yet on how to dispose of depleted youranium is to cast it concrete slugs encased in stainless steel and drop 'em into ocean trenches where they will get sucked back down into the mantle of the earth.

Or launch them into the Sun.


07 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM (#1755485)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

"Set the controls for the heart of the Sun"

and hope that the rockets don;t fallback due to failure on launch..


08 Jun 06 - 11:45 AM (#1755605)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: GUEST,Rufus

Us rocket sientists know that once you get out of earth's gravitational field the Sun takes over.


08 Jun 06 - 07:30 PM (#1755885)
Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank
From: The Fooles Troupe

Just hope you can 'ride the rails' direct here and not bump into anything else on the way...