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BS: acid reflux post surgery

14 Jun 06 - 05:12 PM (#1760110)
Subject: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Morticia

i had surgery on monday (arm in a sling now so awful typing, sorry) and came round to be told i'd been given a big dose of ibuprofen on the table. now ibuprofen gives me a bad stomach, nausea and acid, and i wasn't surprised that i felt pretty bad that night... but today is wednesday and i am still gulping down gaviscon like a mad thing. should it have lasted so long? is it, perhaps, result of anasthetic? anyone any experience of this?


14 Jun 06 - 05:23 PM (#1760119)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: John MacKenzie

I have acid reflux as a matter of course, and take Losec every night to control it. Something has damaged the lining of your stomach [Ibuprofen probably] and it needs to be restored. It means a light diet and bland food for a while. A short course of Zantac will cut down the amount of acid your tummy produces and speed up recovery.
Stay away from fried food, reheated food, and spicy meals. Drink milk if you can take it, and raise the head of your bed to keep the acid down in your stomach, when you lie down.
Giok


14 Jun 06 - 05:39 PM (#1760136)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Anonny Mouse

Gaviscon is OTC. Try some OTC cimetadine or rantanadine acid reducers (same a Pepsid or Xantac). Or, you can go to Prilosec, a bit more expensive, but very effective. Worst case? Get the doc to give you a script for a reflux antacid.


14 Jun 06 - 06:26 PM (#1760169)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Jeri

Morti, talk to your doctor. In my opinion, stomach pain from a slight irritation shouldn't last this long. You could be taking something now that's making things worse, if not causing the continuing problem.

I took Zantac for years, until it stopped being effective. Now I take Prilosec and it works great. They have even MORE serious acid inhibitors available by prescription (at least in the US).


14 Jun 06 - 07:07 PM (#1760195)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: GUEST,mg

I have read in general to lie on one particular side so stuff has a harder time fluxing. Forget which side. mg


14 Jun 06 - 07:13 PM (#1760201)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: John O'L

I'd agree with Jeri. It seems to me that it should have abated by now. See your doctor.


14 Jun 06 - 07:28 PM (#1760214)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: GUEST

If you received a large dose (800mg) on an empty stomach which probably was the case due to the surgery, it could still be a problem.

However, the Doctor is the one to consult and quickly.


14 Jun 06 - 07:44 PM (#1760224)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Jeri

Here comes the stupid comment that somebody has to utter: they usually don't give patients oral meds on the operating table. If it was by IV, it shouldn't have affected your stomach at all.

If they DID give you a lot of ibuprofen to swallow on an empty stomach, it was an incredibly stupid thing for them to have done - especially to a patient with a history of stomach acid problems.

The surgery itself, lying down and being stressed out, could have something to do with it.

You can get pills stuck on the epiglottis. I had this happen once, and it was the worst heartburn I ever had. I had to go to the ER, where they gave me what they called a "G.I. cocktail". One ingredient was lidocaine. My pain was still gone in a couple of hours when the stuff wore off, though.

Talk to your doctor (she says again).


14 Jun 06 - 09:56 PM (#1760314)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Rabbi-Sol

If you had General Anesthesia which I assume would be given for any orthopedic surgery above the waist, you should have been given either Morphine or the non narcotic Toridol or Ultram by injection to control post-surgical pain. Ibuprofen should only be taken on a full stomach and is never given orally until the patient can eat normal meals (approximately 48 hours after surgery). I suggest that you immediately see a Gastroenterologist who will probably do an upper G.I. exam with a scope to determine if any damage was done to your esopagus. Based upon what he sees he would in all probability prescribe a combination of a Proton Pump inhibitor (Prevacid or Nexium 30mg.) and an acid blocker (Pepcid 20mg) for a period of 60 to 90 days until the affected area heals. At the same time you will have to adhere to a strict diet of low fat, no spices, or fried food.
This condition is called GERD. I suffer from it and must take these medications for the rest of my life.

                                              SOL ZELLER


14 Jun 06 - 10:03 PM (#1760317)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Morticia, raise the head of your bed it will help you sleep better.


15 Jun 06 - 01:57 AM (#1760406)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: alison

yep - put me down as another one of the opinion - I don't think they should have given you Ibuprofen at all until you were several days post op, and not at all if you told them that it upsets your system.

Go see you Doctor Morti. Might need a course of Pariet (better than Zantac/ ranitidine)for a while until things get back to normal.

I'd be asking why they gave it "on the table" too.
usually you get a horrible drink of sodium citrate before surgery to stop you having acid reflux during the op. anything during the op should have been intravenous, and therefore no effect on your stomach.

hope you feel better soon

slainte

alison


15 Jun 06 - 02:00 AM (#1760407)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Manitas_at_home

I was taking a lot of Gaviscon and Zantac but I've had to take far far less since I started taking Actimel. It won't work immediately but it's worth a try.


15 Jun 06 - 06:27 AM (#1760472)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Helen

I have had decades of reflux but I discovered a natural remedy available in Oz called GastroCalm . (It's made by Greenridge, which is associated with the Thursday Plantation company which brought Tea Tree Oil onto the market.)

There are a few herbal ingredients but the meadowsweet apparently is the miracle ingredient. It balances the acid in the stomach to the right amount - not too little, not too much. After years of living on antacid tablets and having bilious attacks after taking even a couple of sinus or antihistamine tablets over a couple of days, I started by taking a dose of GastroCalm every few hours, then after a day or so, only a couple of doses in a day, and then only if I needed a dose. Usually now I only take one dose if something I have eaten disagrees with me and it fixes me up and I usually don't have any reflux for weeks or even months.

I agree about consulting your doctor, Morti, but if reflux is an ongoing problem I don't know of anything which works so well as this. It doesn't just deal with the symptoms, it deals with the cause.

Helen


15 Jun 06 - 07:41 AM (#1760504)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: GUEST,catsPHiddle@work

I suffered from acid reflux for about 3 months after each of my surgeries. Sleeping with an extra pillow helps but I would suggest going back to the doctor to get something other than Gaviscon. And I hate to say it....but stay off the gin for a week or two because it doesn't help.

Hope you are feeling a bit better soon

Love Khatt x


15 Jun 06 - 08:27 AM (#1760542)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Becca72

As a daily reflux sufferer, I can agree with raising the head of your bed, but absolutely stay away from dairy products! They are hard to digest and will actually make the problem worse, not better by making your stomach work harder. Try a tablespoon full of vinegar. I know it sounds weird, and it's hard to get it down but it does work. A common misconception is that heartburn is caused by too much stomach acid. It's actually the opposite problem. Of course, in your case I assume the ibuprofen irritated the lining of your stomach. I'd call the doc and see what he recommends, since you are post-surgery.


15 Jun 06 - 08:36 AM (#1760547)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: fat B****rd

I wish I had a clever suggestion, Morticia, but lacking one I hope you get better soon. ATB from Charlie.


15 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM (#1760622)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Donuel

Has anyone had the acid back up while asleep and block all attmepts to breathe for an eternal 2 to 3 minutes until finally a desperate gasp allows a bit of air mixed with acid to seep down their lungs?

Acid reflux is nothing to sneeze at. I am convinced it can be fatal.


15 Jun 06 - 10:32 AM (#1760640)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: John MacKenzie

Chronic acid reflux can irritate the aesophagus, and cause more serious problems, so it needs to be controlled ASAP.
G..


15 Jun 06 - 10:48 AM (#1760652)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: manitas_at_work

I've woken up choking on my own acid reflux. It's scary and painful and takes a lot of water and coughing to get back to any form of normality. As advised above, keep your head raised. A useful tip is not to eat late. I won't say anything about late night booze!


15 Jun 06 - 01:34 PM (#1760794)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: Becca72

Donuel, I've had it happen in the middle of the afternoon, while I'm standing up! It's not fun.


15 Jun 06 - 04:05 PM (#1760899)
Subject: RE: BS: acid reflux post surgery
From: katlaughing

Beeca has it right about dairy products. My dad spent over 50 years eating Rolaids for heartburn until he finally gave up ice cream. He never had a day or heartburn or the mroe serious reflux, again.

Also, the teaspoon of vinegar. I used to use that for the hiccups, too, followed by a teaspoon of water. Always worked.

Bottom line, though, get thee to thy doctor, womon! And, heal up!

luvya and lots of calm, peaceful, healing energy coming your way.

kat