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16 Aug 06 - 04:10 PM (#1811488) Subject: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: GUEST,super simes Can anyone tell me where i can download the dots for Ashakon farewell.Obviously for free. It annoys the hell out of me when all the folkeys know the tune and i dont. Thanks |
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16 Aug 06 - 04:15 PM (#1811493) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Peace The dots ain't gonna be available anytime soon. The publisher--according to something I read--doesn't want them on the www. However, tabs are available here. It takes a few seconds to load. Then scroll down about 1/5 of the way. |
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16 Aug 06 - 04:18 PM (#1811498) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: The Borchester Echo Ashokan Farewell |
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16 Aug 06 - 04:50 PM (#1811524) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Helen super simes, Welcome to Mudcat. It's a nice, friendly place and you might like to look around, see what's available here, and consider joining as a member. It's free. Ashokan (note spelling) Farewell was written by Jay Ungar, so it isn't traditional and it is still in copyright, so not in the public domain. It's a beautiful tune and the man who wrote it deserves to be paid for it. In this case, the sheet music shouldn't be for free, in my opinion, because musicians deserve to make a living out of their creations. If you were looking for a traditional tune, which is in the public domain, you could reasonably expect to find free sheet music. Helen |
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16 Aug 06 - 04:51 PM (#1811526) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Sorcha Post your email, or send on to sorcha@wyomail.com |
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16 Aug 06 - 04:54 PM (#1811528) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: GUEST I cannot believe anybody with the remotest smattering of talent on the fiddle cannot play this after hearing it a couple of times. |
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16 Aug 06 - 04:57 PM (#1811531) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Peace What's a fiddle? |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:00 PM (#1811533) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: GUEST it's similar to a violin, but less pretentious |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:01 PM (#1811535) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Peace Thank you. What's a violin? |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:04 PM (#1811537) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: The Borchester Echo What I can't believe is why anybody would want to but there's a MIDI on the site I linked to and it surely can't take long to learn it from that. |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:11 PM (#1811542) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Sorcha Sorry, but both is very helpful..... |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:16 PM (#1811546) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: The Borchester Echo OK well the site I linked to also offers lead sheets for $2. |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:27 PM (#1811560) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: GUEST Whoop dee doo |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:28 PM (#1811562) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: The Borchester Echo Yeah, that's more or less how it goes . . . |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:34 PM (#1811572) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Sorcha And no matter what OUR opinion is of the tune, if you want gigs, you play what the audience wants to hear.....doh. |
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16 Aug 06 - 05:55 PM (#1811595) Subject: RE: JC's tune finder and thesession.org From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca ANY time some one wants a TUNE, PLEASE learn about either theSession.org MANY MANY tunes are available on the internet and both of those places are easy to access. Most of the tunes they can locate and display for viewing, printing or downloading, in abc, MIDI, or gif formats. And at JC's tune finder, you also have available other formats like PDF. Both GIF and PDF formats are graphic representations of the tune, ie sheet music. If you don't like the key, make your own. For thttp://thesession.org/tunes/display/4997he tune in question, either thesession or JC's Tune Finder Both took less than a second to locate and display. I believe BOTH sites are in the Mudcat Links section. And..... Supersimes, did you do a search on the Mudcat to see if we referenced any site showing this information? It gets asked every year or two. I wouldn't be surprised if we have it in another thread. |
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16 Aug 06 - 06:00 PM (#1811602) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Cruiser "Ashokan Farewell" is not that easy to play beautifully on the fiddle. I have heard the song "played at" by many excellent fiddlers and no one does it nearly as well as Jay Ungar, the master traditional fiddler. His timing and embellishments are exquisite. I strongly agree with Helen. Pay the sheet music or purchase the DVD or video from Homespun Tapes: The "Fiddler's Guide To Waltzes, Airs and Haunting Melodies" Cruiser |
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16 Aug 06 - 06:04 PM (#1811606) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca There! Less than TWO seconds and a search of the Mudcat gives about a dozen threads, and a couple of songs and the tune in MIDI format. Less than FIVE seconds of scanning a SINGLE thread, came up with an abc of the tune. Now, there are FREE programs, like iABC, with which you can display the sheet music from the abc file. So searching Mudcat is pretty easy. All you have to do is locate the BOX at the top right corner of the main page that says, Lyric and Knowledge Search. Enter in Ashokan, and in less than two seconds more information than you thought you ever wanted is available. And most of it is pretty good and informative. |
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16 Aug 06 - 06:05 PM (#1811607) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Oops, looks like I forgot the link to thesession.org |
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16 Aug 06 - 06:09 PM (#1811613) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Oops, I messed up the link for Ashokan Farewell at thesession.org
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16 Aug 06 - 06:18 PM (#1811625) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: Sorcha IF SuperSearch is working.... |
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16 Aug 06 - 06:24 PM (#1811635) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca It almost always is, when I'm looking. But... that's why I included the direct links in my messages |
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16 Aug 06 - 07:24 PM (#1811671) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashakon farewell From: GUEST Cruiser, I would agree totally that Jay Unger's is the definitive version, but I would disagree that buying the sheet music is going to enable the player to play the tune with any greater flair than simply listening and copying. |
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16 Aug 06 - 07:40 PM (#1811683) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashokan Farewell From: Cruiser I agree. However, the full sheet music, which I have, will give slurs (for correct bowing), embellishments, and double stops. I mostly play by ear, but rely on sheet music for the nuances of a fiddle tune. Cruiser |
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16 Aug 06 - 07:53 PM (#1811692) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashokan Farewell From: Sorcha I have it too....and am willing to share....Jay has made his money off this. |
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16 Aug 06 - 08:01 PM (#1811696) Subject: RE: Dots neede to Ashokan Farewell From: The Fooles Troupe I bought the sheet music before I found it on line - a search by the music retailer showed many different arrangements in many different compilations - including just the song on its own arranged for piano. I was once at a festival 'blackboard walk up and play' segment (now I don't wait, I get in EARLY on the list! ) and a couple did a version with hammered dulcimer and banjo - since it was my new 'party piece' I had just worked up on the Piano Accordion, I was annoyed at first, but did it later anyway. We spoke after - we both agreed that our versions were SO different that neither of us were really worried. |
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17 Aug 06 - 03:28 AM (#1811987) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: Paul Burke Annoying tune that it is, it has now probably irrevocably entered the tradition, and as such there's no "correct" way of playing it, even though it has a living composer who has published what presumably is the definition of how it was composed. It's ironic really, but probably the best they can hope to do is stamp it out of tradition by aggressive policing. |
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17 Aug 06 - 03:35 AM (#1811993) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: The Borchester Echo Wonder if the same could be done with Music For A Found Harmonium, a similarly insidiously annoying composed piece currently listed at The Session as 'Traditional Irish'? |
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17 Aug 06 - 04:18 AM (#1812015) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: John MacKenzie Now there is a really annoying tune! G |
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17 Aug 06 - 07:35 AM (#1812123) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: chucky Every damn beginner fiddle player does Ashokan coz it is EASY to play, not coz it is a great tune. |
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17 Aug 06 - 08:24 AM (#1812166) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: The Fooles Troupe ... as they used to do "The Ash Grove" some years ago... |
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17 Aug 06 - 08:42 AM (#1812189) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: Mrs.Duck I LOVE the tune and don't find it easy to play at all but then I don't play fiddle. Heard it last night played beautifully by a young girl from Iowa currently studying in York. |
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17 Aug 06 - 08:52 AM (#1812202) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: The Fooles Troupe It dances on my piano Accordion... |
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17 Aug 06 - 09:01 AM (#1812208) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: Grab It's fun on a guitar in DADGAD. |
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17 Aug 06 - 06:05 PM (#1812548) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: Greg B How about posting the lyrics? Far as I can tell, it's a sort of off-beat talking blues. They all seem to start out something like June 12, 1863. Dear Momma and Papa Well it's been nothing but beans and water for twelve days The latrine done backed up into the tent now it smells powerful bad. Jimmy's leg fell off yesteday, it smelt powerful bad too-- worse'n that danged latrine. They say we'll meet up with the Yankees soon Tell Maggie to stay away from Jim Bob, tell Jim Bob if he doesn't leave Maggie alone I'll thrash him if I ever do get home... Anyways, it's the kind of stuff that goes through my head by the time someone get's through the first few bars... |
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17 Aug 06 - 07:03 PM (#1812584) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashcan Farewell From: The Fooles Troupe There's at least 3 sets of lyrics - check the related threads above. I believe it was written as just a tune. |
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17 Aug 06 - 07:37 PM (#1812620) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: Sorcha And, IMO, they all suck. Don't do justice to the tune at all. |
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17 Aug 06 - 07:53 PM (#1812645) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: The Fooles Troupe 'not coz it is a great tune' It has wonderful 'melody'. |
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18 Aug 06 - 10:00 AM (#1812944) Subject: RE: Dots needed to Ashokan Farewell From: GUEST,Pamela in Ithaca Any lyrics to Ashokan Farewell are "parodies" in my opinion. Certainly none were written by Jay Ungar. And I agree, none do justice to the tune. |
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18 Aug 06 - 10:44 AM (#1812973) Subject: Lyr Add: ASHOKAN FAREWELL (Macgregor/Ungar) From: Cruiser The official lyrics from Jay Ungar's website (also in the Digitrad). Very good lyrics, but with this tune I prefer the instrumental over the lyrical. "Ashokan Farewell" Words by Grian MacGregor Music by Jay Ungar The sun is sinking low in the sky above Ashokan. The pines and the willows know soon we will part. There's a whisper in the wind of promises unspoken, And a love that will always remain in my heart. My thoughts will return to the sound of your laughter, The magic of moving as one, And a time we'll remember long ever after The moonlight and music and dancing are done. Will we climb the hills once more? Will we walk the woods together? Will I feel you holding me close once again? Will every song we've sung stay with us forever? Will you dance in my dreams or my arms until then? Under the moon the mountains lie sleeping Over the lake the stars shine. They wonder if you and I will be keeping The magic and music, or leave them behind. ©1983 and 1991 by Swinging Door Music-BMI, PO Box 49, Saugerties, NY 12477 |