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24 Aug 06 - 04:51 PM (#1818141) Subject: The Albion Chronicles From: Lizzie Cornish Has anyone else found these yet? These two sites have to be the most comprehensive sites about England, it's history, herirage, music, dance, poets, artists etc. that I've yet seen: The Albion Chronicle - Volume 1 http://thealbionchronicles.tripod.com/ The Albion Chronicles - Volume 2 http://thealbionchronicles2.tripod.com/ |
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24 Aug 06 - 04:57 PM (#1818145) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles From: Lizzie Cornish Woops! Posted that a bit too soon by mistake... There's everything you can think of on here from Peter Bellamy and The Transports to Rupert Bear....The Albion Band, Ashley Hutchings, Flora Thompson...even 'Rock n Roll Jam Sandwiches' with everything from The Moody Blues to The Shadows: http://jamsandwiches.tripod.com/index.html And every time you click on a new link, you find loads more... I LOVE The Albion Chronicles and now spend way too much time in there..but every day I learn something new...so at least I've a good excuse. Lizzie :0) |
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25 Aug 06 - 04:36 AM (#1818489) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Lizzie Cornish Just a quick "Thank You" to the Mudcat Mods for adding that extra informative part to the title. Lizzie xx |
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26 Aug 06 - 08:39 AM (#1819332) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Wolfgang Some very interesting contents, but the navigation is horrible and the content is often not up to date (they still link to Reinhard Zierke's site for lyrics). Wolfgang |
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26 Aug 06 - 09:41 AM (#1819371) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Tam I don't inderstand. On one page, Albion Folk, under a picture of the English flag is the name Evelyn Glennie who was born in Aberdeen, Scotland. |
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26 Aug 06 - 04:17 PM (#1819611) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish, without my...er... 'cookie True, but there are also links to all of the titles listed below, which I've copied and pasted, on that page, before you get to Evelyn: Home Dear Friends The Albion Chronicles Dark Fields Shropshire Bedlams Albion Heart Albion Folk The Written Word Sway With Me Hard Cash The Path Countryfile SHOW OF HANDS The Poozies Longdogs Life's Little Ironies The Dorsetshire Labourer The Transports 25 Years Later Nick Drake Nic Jones Swarb!! The Road To Colchester A Daughter of Albion Rupert Bear Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band Poor Murdered Woman In Merstham Tunnel The Murder of Maria Marten The Witches of Elswick Witches Songs Grace Notes Blowzabella They Called Her Babylon Sweet Themmes Run Softly The Albion River Hymn Winter December Hark The Village Wait Endurance Stories I Have Tried To Write Swan Arcade Sound, Sound Your Instruments of Joy Two Unsolved John 'Babbacombe' Lee The Summer Before The War Meet On The Ledge Lordenshaws Mr Fox Evelyn Glennie ladies in lavender Dame Judi Dench The Writer and The Castle A Picture of Britain A City Resilient The Duck Race Morris Off Here's the page you mentioned: Albion Folk: http://thealbionchronicles.tripod.com/id6.html I'd think that possibly, whoever runs the site, holds Evelyn Glennie in very high regard and so decided to give her a 'special' mention. I thoroughly enjoyed reading all about her. What a lovely, inspirational lady. Here's her page: http://thealbionchronicles.tripod.com/id49.html Lizzie :0) |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:07 AM (#1927383) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,banned from the BBC New pages added songs for swingng lovers :0) |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:15 AM (#1927389) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B some interesting thoughts on Lizzies website here |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:22 AM (#1927393) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Sorcha Well, it happened, didn't it? |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:29 AM (#1927397) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B A message from the BBC Folk message board - >>>If it is true that this site is Lizzie's own work, this thread should be closed.<<< It is not true Janey. Sam's site has been in existence for many, many years. Nothing on this site or his others, is 'my own work', not one word. It has all been created by him, every word, every photo. He is from England originally. He also has sites on America and Canada as well. He is certainly NOT racist either. He merely loves his country and it's people. (er...of ALL colours and religions) He also has a site which cover many religions too...and in there he asks people to be open-minded and inclusive to others at all times. - Well so you say Lizzie but it does bear an uncanny resemblance to your own saccharine sickly Sam and Lizzie site linked by the guest above warning - do not open this link unless you have a very strong stomach |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:32 AM (#1927399) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Sorcha Tis a pity that most people missed this oh so Romantic England. |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:33 AM (#1927401) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B especially the English Sorcha LOL |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:42 AM (#1927408) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Sorcha Oh yes, apparently one must be veddy English to appreciate all of it. Not for us Outlanders, so sad. |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:42 AM (#1927410) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Captain Ginger Some good links and Lizzie's taste in folk is very similar to my own - that is to say, impeccable - but the overall effect is that of drowning in rose-water while being beaten over the head with rolls of Laura Ashley wallpaper. Maybe it's more of a girl thing - I'll stick with scratchy tweed and the smell of damp dog! |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:45 AM (#1927417) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Sorcha Then I'm not much of a girl, Cap. |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:47 AM (#1927419) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Paul Burke Smug is the word that comes to mind, still, they appear to be enjoying themselves, so much that they want everyone else to know. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I suppose I'm not qualified to talk about England anyway, as 150 years ago most of my ancestors were Irish. The difficult tightrope to walk is to celebrate Englishness without making it a fixed thing, and not not-celebrating not-Englishness. And admitting that not everything about it is worth celebrating. But that's what multiculturalism is really about- the right to pick-and-mix the bits of cultural expression that ring well for you, without having to swallow it all at once like a raw egg, and without claiming that someone else's lucky bag is anathema. |
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05 Jan 07 - 11:49 AM (#1927420) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Morris-ey She can't help herself, poor dear |
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05 Jan 07 - 12:06 PM (#1927445) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST I'm just feeling sorry for her husband. Get your kicks.....etc, etc. |
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05 Jan 07 - 02:33 PM (#1927574) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST On ROUTE 66 |
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05 Jan 07 - 02:41 PM (#1927579) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: John MacKenzie Poor old Cuckoo Cornish, all that enthusiasm, and no idea! G |
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05 Jan 07 - 04:12 PM (#1927646) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Blonde Lover Hey, I went to that site called Sam and Lizzie. Is that you Lizzie Cornish? I must be honest I can always fall for a good-looking blonde. Are you spoken for? |
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05 Jan 07 - 04:14 PM (#1927648) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Captain Ginger I think the name of the site is a bit of a give-away, blonder lover! Or maybe you're a lover who happens to be blonde, in which case... LOOK AT THE NAME OF THE SITE! |
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05 Jan 07 - 05:37 PM (#1927736) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: John MacKenzie So all those 'blonde' jokes are true! G. |
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05 Jan 07 - 05:42 PM (#1927739) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Liz the Squeak anyone got a bucket? LTS |
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05 Jan 07 - 05:43 PM (#1927741) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST Second that. |
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05 Jan 07 - 05:51 PM (#1927746) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Sorcha A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, medicine go down.... |
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05 Jan 07 - 06:44 PM (#1927781) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST I'm not in the slightest bit sorry for Mr Route of Sidmouth and his incredibly stupid, possibly wayward in a pretendy sort of way, missus. What I am concerned about is what damage she has done to all those artists' careers. and to the Sidmouth Festival itself. If she and this 'Sam' (if he exists), want to disappear on a floaty pink cloud into the Albion sunset, then the sooner the better and good riddance. |
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05 Jan 07 - 07:00 PM (#1927795) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST Would that be Mr Paul Route perchance?? |
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05 Jan 07 - 07:31 PM (#1927812) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST Is she the 52 year old woman from Devon? |
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05 Jan 07 - 07:35 PM (#1927813) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST I think she's 3 months younger than that.... |
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05 Jan 07 - 07:45 PM (#1927819) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Sorcha Hey, Mods/Clones...are these links considered spam? If so, can they be removed? |
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05 Jan 07 - 08:14 PM (#1927835) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Blonde Lover Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST Date: 05 Jan 07 - 06:44 PM I'm not in the slightest bit sorry for Mr Route of Sidmouth and his incredibly stupid, possibly wayward in a pretendy sort of way, missus. What I am concerned about is what damage she has done to all those artists' careers. and to the Sidmouth Festival itself. If she and this 'Sam' (if he exists), want to disappear on a floaty pink cloud into the Albion sunset, then the sooner the better and good riddance. I am not sure what all this means - can someone enlighten me? |
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05 Jan 07 - 08:15 PM (#1927836) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Blonde Lover I just thought that the lovely blonde lady looked lovely And I like blondes |
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06 Jan 07 - 12:02 AM (#1927954) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST Best to keep this one running. |
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06 Jan 07 - 02:57 AM (#1928002) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Joe Offer I've received complaints that this thread is Spam, but I can't see why. It seems appropriate for Lizzie to use Mudcat to call attention to a site like hers. Her page on Nick Drake, for example, has a lot of information. -Joe- |
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06 Jan 07 - 07:36 AM (#1928105) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B I agree with you about the information on Nick Drake Joe - it is well written and researched - and most of it can be found here |
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06 Jan 07 - 08:09 AM (#1928125) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: John MacKenzie All the stuff linked on this disjointed and badly laid out site are available elsewhere in a more intelligible format. Are we quite sure that permission has been obtained from the owners of the linked websites? Sorry but all I see on the AC website is shameless self indulgence and self promotion. G |
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06 Jan 07 - 08:48 AM (#1928149) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Pete_Standing No doubt that the authors have spent a lot of time composing these sites and despite the way it may be laid out, it is some sort of collation that some people might find useful. I've not spent much time looking and neither will I, however I would advise that the authors seek permission either from the artists or their agents in case the use of images of albums, lyrics and the audio and video clips risks violating copyright. |
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06 Jan 07 - 08:50 AM (#1928150) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Blonde Lover I suspect if plagiarism was outlawed on the internet a lot of it would be shut!! Can we leave the picture of the blonde please? But I agree about the self-promotion and self indulgence. |
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06 Jan 07 - 08:59 AM (#1928157) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: The Fooles Troupe A Bucket? Don't you mean Bouquet? |
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06 Jan 07 - 09:03 AM (#1928160) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B I have seen a great deal of direct cut and pasting on various posts here but to incorporate the whole of a lengthy tribute from another source and simply add a short introductory paragraph must be pushing the barrier, even if attributed surely? I wonder if the author of that piece was asked for permission |
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06 Jan 07 - 09:25 AM (#1928176) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Surreysinger Even if something is on the net, that doesn't mean that it is free for all to use, and the fact that it happens a lot doesn't actually make it legal. There's such a thing as intellectual copyright. Someone, for instance, once nicked a few sentences of mine and plonked them on a Wikipedia entry with no courtesy or by your leave. Wikipedia take intellectual copyright very seriously, and instantly removed the copy when I pointed out what had been done. In the case of the Nick Drake article, presumably the newspaper and the author concerned would have something to say about it's use if they were aware and had not given permission for it to happen. As far as images go, the owners of copyright can be quite possessive and litigious! A local am dram company were about to produce a "Night at the Musicals" production here, and to advertise it used a bevy of photos taken from publicity for West End musicals. A friend of the impresario responsible for quite a few of these musicals happened to be in the theatre one evening, and the producer of the play ended up with the threat of legal proceedings if they were not instantaneously removed... a very dodgy area to get involved in! |
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06 Jan 07 - 10:18 AM (#1928207) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B On the rather tasteless opening Sam and Lizzie pages (the one before the Blonde!) there is an image - "White Raven ©Thomas Canty. All Rights Reserved. Used Here For Educational Purposes Only " Does that make it OK? Well the whole thing seems VERY "dodgy" to me |
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06 Jan 07 - 10:23 AM (#1928212) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: eddie1 Whatever you folks say, I must thank them for the page on that well-known English folk group, The Poozies and I bet Patsy, Mary and Eilidh are pleased as well! Eddie |
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06 Jan 07 - 10:30 AM (#1928220) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Emma B Hoots! |
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06 Jan 07 - 11:18 AM (#1928272) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: eddie1 Mon! |
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06 Jan 07 - 11:30 AM (#1928281) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: John MacKenzie Ami |
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06 Jan 07 - 12:30 PM (#1928355) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Surreysinger Amo, amas ,amat..... Oh no, sorry - got carried away there!!! |
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06 Jan 07 - 12:37 PM (#1928359) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: John MacKenzie Ama blue toothbrush, you're a pink toothbrush? |
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06 Jan 07 - 02:21 PM (#1928457) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: John MacKenzie 50 posts, and that's 50 too many! G. |
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06 Jan 07 - 02:58 PM (#1928493) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: RTim This is the worst web page I have EVER tried to visit! I have NEVER got to a content page as you are bombarded with pop-ups! Tim Radford |
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09 Jan 07 - 02:54 PM (#1931643) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Pest Of A Guest It seems to me that nothing on this thread makes much sense, well it does, in a rather nasty, spiteful and childish way. I was always under the impression that flaming an individual or individuals was a banning offence, it appears I was wrong. Is this a sign of our times? If it is I hold little hope for the future |
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09 Jan 07 - 02:56 PM (#1931644) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Ruth Archer Hi Lizzie! Wondered where you'd got to... |
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09 Mar 07 - 03:04 AM (#1991136) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Albion Fart Whilst browsing this website last night, something began to bother me. I looked at the writing on the opening page, which is pretty garbled, then looked at the writing on various pages, like the biographies of Thomas Hardy and Judi Dench and the articles about some places, which was all very articulate and grammatically correct. I started to smell a rat. So I did that thing that you do when you're testing for plagiarism: I copied and pasted a couple of passages, in inverted commas, into Google. Lo and behold - whole articles came up as existing elsewhere (and presumably these are the sources for the material in The Albion Chronicles). Bear in mind that these same articles on the Albion Chronicles contain no attributions at all, so the implication is that the authors of that site have written them. Indeed, I assumed that the authors of the site had written them, until it became clear that this was far from the truth. Some articles, like the Thomas Hardy, are copied and pasted completely from another site. Others, like the one about Coggeshall and Judi Dench, are a paragraph here and there from several sites, including the BBC! This is really bad practice. If a kid at school did it, they'd be facing exclusion for plagiarism. If you copy something that you have not written, you must both gain the permission of the person who HAS written it, and also credit them for their work. I thought this would be pretty obvious to anybody, but the owners of the site might like to review their practice before they find themselves in some serious trouble. :0) |
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09 Mar 07 - 03:39 AM (#1991155) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Richard Bridge It looks as if it might be quiteinteresting although a bit hard to find things on - and the !"£$%^&*( popups are a nuisance! |
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09 Mar 07 - 03:52 AM (#1991162) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Alec I'm pleased that was not just my experience Richard. Though I am intending to upgrade to Broadband in the near future,as a dial-up user I gave up waiting for the slow loading time necesitated by somebody's attempts to interest me in Heidi Klum wallpaper. I might try again once I have Broadband,but I would say to anybody on Dial-up that they might like to consider this site "one to avoid". |
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09 Mar 07 - 04:11 AM (#1991167) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Albion Fart "Heidi Klum wallpaper" Ah, the heart of Albion. |
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09 Mar 07 - 11:58 AM (#1991590) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: Ruth Archer Interesting that no one has answered the charges on this thread...I'd have thought there would be a robust defense of "dear Sam" and his stolen goods... |
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09 Mar 07 - 12:20 PM (#1991611) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: GUEST,Chris Murray The owners of the site are Sam Reynolds and our own Lizzie Cornish. |
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09 Mar 07 - 01:20 PM (#1991683) Subject: RE: The Albion Chronicles-sites about England From: The Borchester Echo CM, you forgot your throwing up emoticon, © Chris Murray. Essential if you are foolish enough to venture into the floaty pink-tinged Sam'n'Lizzie pages. |