12 Jan 98 - 11:12 PM (#19147) Subject: Lyr Add: YORKSHIRE DAMOSEL [FOGGY FOGGY DEW] From: Bruce O. [Foggy, Foggy Dew.]
The Fright'ned Yorkshire Damosel, Or, Fear Dispears'd by Pleasure.
To the tune of, I met with a Country Lass, &c. [unidentified]
When first I beqan to court,
I kiss'd her in the summer time,
My love she was going one Night
She came to my chamber-door,
At last she came boldly in,
She started and run in haste,
But into my bed she crept,
I turn'd about to the maid,
I kiss'd and embrac'd her then,
My love she was all dismay'd,
I marry'd her the next day,
I ne'r said a word of the thing,
Printed and Sold by J. Millet, ... 1689.
Bogulmaroo = Buggle Bow, or now, Buggabo, was a big black devil that played tricks on travelers at night. This superstition goes back at least to the early 17th century. A chapbook published in 1660 was 'The Meickle Black Diel, or the Boggle Bo'. "Bugle Bow" was also the name of a lost tune, c 1615.
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12 Sep 06 - 01:35 PM (#1832803) Subject: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: John M. Hello everyone, |
12 Sep 06 - 06:04 PM (#1832985) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: GUEST,thurg If this is the progenitor of the version recorded by Liam Clancy (or was it Tommy Makem? or both?), then it goes to show the wonderful refining and improving faculties of the folk-process ("th"ugly Bugalmaroo" - jeesh!). |
12 Sep 06 - 07:19 PM (#1833056) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: Malcolm Douglas Posted here long ago by the late Bruce Olson. Foggy, Foggy Dew (Bogulmaroo) (original thread). The Fright'ned Yorkshire Damosel, Or, Fear Dispears'd by Pleasure (DT file, with collapsed formatting). Which 'Pepys Ballad Collection Facsimile' is that? You don't give any publication details. I can confirm, though, that a facsimile can be seen online at The Pepys Ballads (University of California-Santa Barbara, prepared from photographic images of the collection held at the Pepys Library, Magdalene College, Cambridge): THE/ Fright'ned York-shire Damosel,/ OR,/ Fears Dispers'd by Pleasure. I'm not sure why Wardroper felt the need to change the way a few words were spelled (the original is perfectly easy to understand); equally, "thurg" misses the point that applying modern, subjective aesthetic judgements to historical material is anachronistic and irrelevant. For a detailed discussion of the song-family and its origins, see Robert S Thomson, 'The Frightful Foggy Dew' in Folk Music Journal, London: EFDSS, Volume 4 Number 1 (1980). |
12 Sep 06 - 07:22 PM (#1833062) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: Amos I find the original quite charming, and am glad to have been exposed to it! A |
12 Sep 06 - 07:35 PM (#1833073) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: Q (Frank Staplin) It also was in Olson's Scarce Songs 1, now excluded by Robots.txt. Who are these ........? |
12 Sep 06 - 08:19 PM (#1833100) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: GUEST,thurg "equally, "thurg" misses the point that applying modern, subjective aesthetic judgements to historical material is anachronistic and irrelevant." Hunh? Irrelevant to what? Irrelevant to my modern and subjective opinion as to which version has more aesthetic merit? No. Irrelevant to the question of whether anyone can confirm the song is in Pepys' Facsimile? Absolutely. |
12 Sep 06 - 09:14 PM (#1833131) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Is there discrimination if not downright bigotry here? Just because bogulmaroo (bogle bo, buggle bow, bugaboo, etc.) is black (usually) is no reason to call him ugly and 'refine' him out of a song in which he has an important part. |
13 Sep 06 - 12:57 PM (#1833616) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1689 From: Lighter Roy Palmer published a photo of the broadside as the frontispiece to his book "The Sounds of History" in 1988. |
14 Sep 06 - 10:21 PM (#1834893) Subject: RE: Origins: Antedating The Foggy, Foggy Dew ==> 1 From: John M. Malcolm Douglas, thanks! I didn't know of the online Pepys Ballads. I have other items from Wardroper's book which will not be as easy to verify. Always Yours, John Mehlberg |