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BS: Noted Without Comment #4

17 Sep 06 - 07:23 PM (#1836960)
Subject: BS: Noted Without Comment #4
From: dick greenhaus

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - In the few short years since the first shackled Afghan shuffled off to Guantanamo, the U.S. military has created a global network of overseas prisons, its islands of high security keeping 14,000 detainees beyond the reach of established law....

...Many say they were caught up in U.S. military sweeps, often interrogated around the clock, then released months or years later without apology, compensation or any word on why they were taken. Seventy to 90 percent of the Iraq detentions in 2003 were ``mistakes,'' U.S. officers once told the international Red Cross .


17 Sep 06 - 07:48 PM (#1836976)
Subject: RE: BS: Noted Without Comment #4
From: frogprince

But just think how much safer we all are because of it!....


17 Sep 06 - 07:58 PM (#1836981)
Subject: RE: BS: Noted Without Comment #4
From: Azizi

There's been a number of DailyKos diaries on this subject.

Here's two comments from this one:

"This has been going through my head
over and over again. How did we get to the place where we are debating the definition of torture? How is it that we are at a place where people accept the fact that our president uses the airwaves to defend his ability to change that definition.
Torture. More and more I find myself staring out the window, shaking my head."
by CJB on Sun Sep 17, 2006 at 04:23:13 PM PDT

"The Jews couldn't believe what was happening...
...to them either in 1930's Germany.   That's why too many didn't leave in time.
Anywhere, anytime, our world can be turned upside down by a maniac --or many. Although we should endeavor to enjoy our lives, we can't get complacent -- we have to be psychologically ready for anything.
by dov12348 on Sun Sep 17, 2006 at 04:23:55 PM PDT"

-snip-

I maintain that enslaved Black people in the 18th & 19th century US South and elsewhere also lived with the knowledge that "anywhere, anytime their world could be turned upside down...". And these people, my ancestors, had to be psychologically ready for anything. Some of them were brave enough to risk their lives and flee to the North or to Canada. Unfortunately, now, there is nowhere safe to run.
And we all-Black, White, Brown, Red, Yellow-are in this nightmare together.

Who would have believed that The United State's president would be openly, vigorously campaigning for torture and for the continuation of secret prisons throughout the world that he once denied existed? It's like we're living in the twilight zone.


17 Sep 06 - 08:02 PM (#1836983)
Subject: RE: BS: Noted Without Comment #4
From: Azizi

Sorry, here's the URL for that diary:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/17/192912/169
DogGirl, And Other Tales Of Horror
by georgia10
Sun Sep 17, 2006 at 04:29:12 PM PDT

And here's an excerpt of the diary itself:

"We're five years into this War on Terrorism, and I cannot count the number of times I have asked myself The Question: "is this really happening?"

I thought it in 2001 as I watched the two towers fall. I thought it again in 2003 as I watched shock & awe light up my TV screen. I thought it in 2004 as I saw pictures of Abu Ghraib. And I questioned reality again in 2005 as I read about the scope of the domestic spying program.

Reality. I like to think of it as that America we bid farewell to on September 11th as we welcomed this stranger we call America today into our lives. Reality has changed so drastically over the last five years that it at times defies belief.   It's difficult to wrap my head around this rapid decent into such an... uncomfortable state of being.

But no matter how I crave the America of September 10th, I must live in this new reality, produced and distributed by the GOP--a reality which feels fake, forced, and foreign..."