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21 Sep 06 - 11:51 PM (#1840512) Subject: BS: Morris dancers From: Shanghaiceltic Rapping morriss Not seen this on the streets of the UK before. |
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22 Sep 06 - 02:44 AM (#1840555) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Sooz should be seen and not heard! |
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22 Sep 06 - 03:51 AM (#1840585) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Liz the Squeak Maybe not seen on the streets but seen on far too many computer screens over the last year or two.... Can we just draw a veil over the whole thing?? LTS |
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22 Sep 06 - 07:59 AM (#1840710) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: JennyO Speaking of seen and not heard, was there supposed to be sound with that? I didn't hear any. |
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22 Sep 06 - 08:21 AM (#1840729) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Mr Red Yes and it wasn't worth it. |
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22 Sep 06 - 08:31 AM (#1840740) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Azizi I know next to nothing about Morris dancers. Instead of focusing on the rap sound that was added to the video, I was interested in those dancers use of canes. Its interesting to me to see how similar movement/dance traditions are throughout the world. For instance, Kappa Kanes is a website about the African American Greek letter [university based] fraternal organization, Kappa Alpha Psi, Inc. and their signature use of canes in their step shows. This website has some photos. Here's an excerpt from that website: "Cane stepping became an official part of [Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. at the 66th Grand Chapter meeting in 1986] and a dazzling competition was held in front of hundreds of onlookers during a picnic in Washington's Rock Creek Park to illustrate the skills of the trade. Several groups participated, performing frenzied and entertaining steps." -snip- This is not to say that this or other fraternity's use of the cane is the same as the Morris Dancers. I don't think it is, thought there are some similar movements. I just wanted to point out that there is some shared traditions-perhaps when you least expect there to be. Btw, I've not yet found any online video clips of [Black or Latino] Greek letter fraternities & sororities, or other Black or Latino community based step shows. |
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22 Sep 06 - 09:08 AM (#1840773) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: GUEST,Bainbo It must be 20 years or so ago, Hart & Hound Morris, from Hartelpool, UK,danced were dancingin Durham Market Place, when our musician, Pete Greig, grabbed a plastic rubbish bin and used it to beat out a rhythm while he rapped an introduction. Sadly, Pete is no longer with us. And I'm ashamed to say, I don't remember any of the rap, except that it ended : "... We gonna do a dance called Landlord Fill," at which he took up his melodeon and went straight into the first few bars. He hadn't told us he was going to do it, and we nearly couldn't dance for laughing. (Mind, we could usually find some reason for not being able to dance.) |
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22 Sep 06 - 07:11 PM (#1841168) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Eye Lander We had Chav Morris at Miskin this year, it was very clever and very very funny and I hope they do it again next year. |
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28 Sep 06 - 05:08 AM (#1844812) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Geoff the Duck Azizi - In Cotswold Morris Dancing the use of sticks is more a case of various dances representing a fight. The sticks are more solid than the canes from the dancers you mention. If you watch some of the old Robin Hood films, you will see the fight where Robin meets little John and they fight with quarter staffs for control of a narrow bridge across the stream. Morris sticks are more based on the staff rather than a walking cane. In some dances it is very obvious that "battle" is happening, in other dances it is more abstract. Hope this helps you. Quack! Geoff. |
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28 Sep 06 - 06:51 AM (#1844846) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: GUEST,ibo THIS IS OUR NATONAL DANCE,AND IT MUST HAVE STRUCK FEAR INTO OUR ENEMIES.STUFF THE HAKA,LETS ALL JUMP AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF GRAHAM NORTONS. |
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28 Sep 06 - 08:43 AM (#1844916) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Geoff the Duck Don't shout. It is extremely poor manners, old chap. Quack! GtD. |
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28 Sep 06 - 05:34 PM (#1845413) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Liz the Squeak He can't help it, his knob is stuck. LTS |
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28 Sep 06 - 05:44 PM (#1845420) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: GUEST,Ibo Sorry my caps lock was stuck,but i still think that morris dancers are sad middle aged train spotters who really should try to get a better life.Sorry. |
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28 Sep 06 - 06:11 PM (#1845445) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Bizibod You're missing out pal.......Up to you... |
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28 Sep 06 - 11:10 PM (#1845640) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Strollin' Johnny I think that guests who troll and flame are exactly the same as middle aged train spotters who really should try to get a better life. They're also wankers. And I'm not sorry. |
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28 Sep 06 - 11:34 PM (#1845656) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Azizi Geoff the Duckm thanks for that explanation, and especially mentioning the Robin Hood/Little John scene. That reference helped a lot. Apparently, there are stick fighting traditions throughout the world. at least that's what Wikipedia says here Again, thanks Geoff! Best wishes, Azizi |
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28 Sep 06 - 11:35 PM (#1845658) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Azizi Now where did that "m' come from?? Duckm=Duck But you knew that, right? Right. |
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29 Sep 06 - 08:39 AM (#1845907) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: treewind Middle Aged train spotters? You should see Dog Rose, or Morris Offspring, or Black Swan Rappper, or ... I'm sure there are many others. Anahata |
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29 Sep 06 - 08:52 AM (#1845916) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: manitas_at_work What's so wrong with being a middle aged train spotter anyway? So many people seem to think that "Get a life!" means "do as I do". |
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29 Sep 06 - 09:06 AM (#1845927) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Bill t' bodger I am no train spotter and think it may be offensive to others to call them such, the level of fitness and skill needed for some of the dances is very high and I have the highest respect for those who do the dances. I dance myself and have since my mid twenties not middle aged when I started I think, the team I now dance with could blow your mind and body quite literally, and we have a great life inside and outside the team thankyou very much Bill |
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29 Sep 06 - 09:11 AM (#1845931) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Rapparee It's Jennie-O's fault. Over on MOAB she used the phrase "Bin Laden and Morris Dancers" and now I can't get the picture of Osama Bin Laden as a Morris Dancer out of my mind. Take it, please. You're welcome to it! |
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30 Sep 06 - 03:31 AM (#1846617) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Liz the Squeak What's wrong with being a middle aged trainspotter?? Where should we start.... LTS |
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30 Sep 06 - 03:56 AM (#1846635) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Strollin' Johnny I were a trainspotter when I were a lad. Spent many an hour on the up-platform at Retford Station. Kept me occupied and out of trouble - there weren't many of us spray-painting graffiti or filling up with smack and going round shooting people in fast-food restaurants back then. Mind you, trains were worth spotting then - had style and personality, not like the boring diesel and electric things we have now. Bring back the steam trains and watch the teeenage crime figures drop! :-) |
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30 Sep 06 - 04:02 AM (#1846639) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Liz the Squeak I must confess to being a train spotter spotter.... not that I travel by rail very often, but it's fun, picking out the anoraks from the general passengers. My best is a full olive green quilted anorak circa 1973, with badges, beany hat and clipboard with pen on a string, spotted at Durham in 1992. LTS |
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30 Sep 06 - 06:46 AM (#1846700) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: GUEST,ibo You have persuaded me liz,please get me one of those anoraks |
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30 Sep 06 - 02:45 PM (#1847017) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Strollin' Johnny I had one of those Liz, with a bright orange lining and a snorkel hood with fake fur round it. Used to wear it when I was a Mod, driving around on my Lambretta with 75 billion mirrors sticking up from the handlebars on long stalks! Also the 6-foot aerial attached to the carrier, with an Esso Tiger-Tail tied to the tip. I thought I was the king of the road. Now I ROFL at the image that conjures up! S:0) |
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01 Oct 06 - 02:58 PM (#1847692) Subject: RE: BS: Morris dancers From: Mad Musix Back to reality 'ombres ... back to the original videsnip: I thought the use of the onbeat of the rap against the offbeat of the footing was interesting. I sometimes do that on my accordeon and it drives the dancers to distraction. My side are rather brainlocked-on-the-tune, who claim they can only dance to the tune as-writ. I have oft questioned them as to where is it "as-writ", and pointed out that (1)the Black Book only records the bare tune ; and (2)it has a load of duff notes in it that make a nonsense of some tunes. So I shall promote this videsnip to them as an "alternative" global view of the accompaniment to the dance ... phaps when they are practising with hankies. |