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27 Sep 06 - 08:32 PM (#1844653) Subject: Lyr Req: The old ways of Dublin From: Shiamsa The song starts: "The old ways of Dublin are ??? and faded ?????? With a rub of the relic and an act of contrition..." Greatful for any information on this song, which I'm told originated as a recitation. |
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28 Sep 06 - 05:06 AM (#1844811) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The old ways of Dublin From: Fergie One of the regulars at the Góilín Singers Club warbles this one every now and then. I will ask for the lyrics next time I see her Fergus |
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28 Sep 06 - 05:30 AM (#1844819) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The old ways of Dublin From: John MacKenzie Could it be Dublin in the Rare Ould Times? Giok |
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28 Sep 06 - 05:51 AM (#1844822) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The old ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan Giok No - it's a different beast entirely. Nice song. I've only heard it relatively recently (same source as Fergie) and know nothing of its background. Regards |
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30 Oct 06 - 07:43 PM (#1872597) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Shiamsa I managed to pick up some of the lyrics of this song, from a chap called Dermot Whelan, who got it from a stone mason in the Liberties called Georgie Mullins. It's called the Inchicore Wake, and I was told it was written by Pete St. John, but I couldn't find any mention of it on his web site. I'd still like to know who, if anybody, recorded it. I'll post what I have as soon as I can. Regards, Don |
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31 Oct 06 - 04:47 AM (#1872814) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan I's be a bit surprised if its by Pete St. John. I think it was originally writtten as a poem and later set to music. Fergie - did you check with Anne (?)? Regards |
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01 Nov 06 - 05:49 PM (#1874210) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Fergie Hi Martin - I haven't seen Anne since. I'll be at the Góilín on Fri and I will ask if she is there Fergie |
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04 Nov 06 - 11:50 AM (#1876115) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Fergie I spoke to Anne last night in the Góilín and she will post the lyrics here next time she visits Mudcat Fergus |
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31 Jan 07 - 05:44 PM (#1953941) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan Refresh - time we did something about his, Fergie! Regards |
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31 Jan 07 - 07:47 PM (#1954062) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Fergie Hi Martin I havn't been to the Góilín for a month or so and I won't be there for another few weeks, but next time I see Anne I will remind her. Fergie |
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31 Jan 07 - 07:50 PM (#1954067) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan Great! We were there a few weeks ago - but I forgot this one. Regards |
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31 Jan 07 - 08:28 PM (#1954099) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Fergie Hi Martin did you get my pm Fergie |
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01 Feb 07 - 04:32 AM (#1954303) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan Just did - reply on the way. Regards |
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01 Feb 07 - 08:34 AM (#1954451) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Gulliver Thanks for keeping up with this, lads! Gulliver (formerly known as Shiamsa) |
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25 Apr 07 - 05:29 PM (#2035778) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Gulliver Here's the little bit of the song I heard: The oul ways of Dublin are passin' and faded People just vanish with the names they did bear With a rub of the relic and an act of contrition They blamed it on jar and ? Ructions Murray was cryin' to Tar-barrel Keegan Last-post-Fagin ? And pick-me-up-Keith and the black Paddy Meddler With the clock they were talking with trains goin' through They moved in their hundreds in black shawls and ? ? Oh the smell of the moth balls and the ? Was the music of love ? That evening we gargled we battled we argued We sang all the songs and the ones we half knew We toasted the ladies, the mollies and the dollies ? And president Kiely come in from Drumcondra With a madcapper crew and a brave soldiers song Sure we were all broken hearted For the dear dead departed At the Inchicore Wake ? |
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25 Apr 07 - 07:38 PM (#2035886) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Fergie Hi Gulliver I'll print out your version and ask Anne to correct it and fill in the blanks when I am in the Góilín on Friday Fergus |
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25 Nov 08 - 08:36 PM (#2501707) Subject: ADD: Inchicore Wake (The Old Ways of Dublin...) From: Fergie Hi all A few weeks ago I came across my copy of 'Jaysus Wept' a slim volume written by Pete St. John. In it were the words to this song. I contacted Pete and he confirmed that he is the composer of the song. Here are the words transcribed from the book. Fergus INCHICORE WAKE (Pete St. John) There was chase-the-hearse Whelan And old Joe Sartini On his two saddled bike A black market on wheels Into Stickfoots of Church Street And the oul Hen and Chicken With the Inchicore News Molly Sonex was dead Then came the word Dolly Fossett had joined her The quare ones were mournin' And Eugene played 'Taps' For the ladies of Dublin Who made life half worth livin' They carried no stories And didn't draw maps… Sure the old ways of Dublin Are passing and fading People just vanish But the names they live on With a rub of the relic And an act of contrition We blamed it on jar And on oul Mushat's Balm Ructions Murray was cryin' And the Tar Barrel keenin' Oul Last Post Daly He bugled for hours And Bigamy O'Keeffe And Black Paddy Medlar With the Claffy was talkin' Of grave stones and flowers They turned up in hundreds With black shawls and Mass Cards Lousy head haircuts and out of pawn suits And the smell of the mothballs And the once a year greetings Were the music of love On the sad Dublin Streets Sure the old ways of Dublin Are passing and fading People just vanish But the names they live on With a rub of the relic And an act of contrition We blamed it on jar And on oul Mushat's Balm Well that evenin' we gargled We hassled and argued We sang all the songs And hymns we half knew And we toasted the ladies The Dollies and Mollies Not a dry eye in Dublin The begrudgers were few Then President Kiely Came in from Drumcondra With the mad Capper Crew And a brave Soldiers' Song We were all broken hearted For the dear dead departed At that Inchicore Wake And the Days that are gone Sure the old ways of Dublin Are passing and fading People just vanish But the names they live on With a rub of the relic And an act of contrition We blamed it on jar And on oul Mushat's Balm |
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25 Nov 08 - 10:30 PM (#2501762) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Effsee Ah bejaysus! Would I not love to hear dear ould Ronnie Drew have a go at that one! |
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25 Nov 08 - 11:00 PM (#2501773) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: Amos I'd love to hear the tune somehow. A |
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26 Nov 08 - 02:55 AM (#2501810) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan Well done, Fergie. Great to see this one nailed at last! A good strong Dublin accent and feel for the speech pattern - that's all we need now... I'll have a think about the tune. Regards p.s. I'll leave you to explain "Mushat's Balm"! |
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26 Nov 08 - 04:22 AM (#2501836) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Ways of Dublin From: MartinRyan The tune Anne uses is a slow, stretched version of "The Humours of Whiskey" (a.k.a. Stick to the Crathur) , I reckon.The chorus uses the second strain. |
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07 Feb 12 - 06:09 PM (#3303993) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: GUEST i have a recording of it by georgie mullins you can get it on a cd by the darky kelly boys in darky kellys pub in fishamble st in dublin |
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07 Feb 12 - 09:20 PM (#3304079) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: michaelr Please, somebody explain Mushat's Balm! |
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08 Feb 12 - 05:44 AM (#3304220) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: zozimus A concoction or ointment to cure all ills by the famous chemist Mr Mushat. |
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08 Feb 12 - 11:48 AM (#3304384) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: Fergie With a rub of the relic And an act of contrition We blamed it on jar And on oul Mushat's Balm Mushat's Balm is one thing, but what about -a rub o' de relic- try explaining that one now Mr Zozimus, go on, try explaining that one. Eh! by the way will we see you at the Clé Club anocht? |
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08 Feb 12 - 01:06 PM (#3304421) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: GUEST,mg Well, Catholics at least would I think touch or maybe rub a holy relic like a piece of the true crucifix or the finger bone of St. Peter etc..I know I would if they promised me so many days off purgatory..mg |
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08 Feb 12 - 02:41 PM (#3304462) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: zozimus Hi Fergie, No I won't make it tonite, so yez can start without me. A rub o'de relic used to have the same meaning as bashin' yer bishop, but lately bashing bishops has taken a more literal meaning. Do I win the fiver? |
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13 Oct 14 - 01:22 PM (#3668701) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: MartinRyan You can now hear Anne Buckley singing this one at The Goilin Song Project: Click here Regards |
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22 Nov 19 - 10:09 AM (#4020799) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Inchicore Wake (Pete St. John) From: GUEST,tommy Ive had a listen to this on Christy moores new ailbum and its great. |