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30 Sep 06 - 04:22 PM (#1847073) Subject: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: GUEST,Frances Rodgers Could anyone please help me, I am looking for the words of 'The Trip o'er the Mountain.' I think it is a Donegall song but not sure. There is a line in it that goes: 'Till we joined at the Alter of Hyman. Can anyone explain what this means, has it anything to do with Greek Gods or such like? thanks Frances |
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30 Sep 06 - 04:46 PM (#1847088) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: nutty There is a number of broadsides of this song in the Bodleian Library CLICK HERE This particular example was .... Printer: Bebbington, J.O. (Manchester) Date: c.1850 Being joined at the "Altar of Hymen" is another way of saying that the couple made love. |
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30 Sep 06 - 04:49 PM (#1847091) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Les from Hull click here |
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30 Sep 06 - 04:54 PM (#1847096) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Mick Pearce (MCP) The Altar of Hymen - in Greek and Roman mythology the god of marriage. A version has been posted in Song Add:Over The Mountain(Boys of the Lough) and I have a version myself from another source. Roud No: 9632 Mick |
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30 Sep 06 - 05:18 PM (#1847128) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: nutty There are obviously numerous versions of the final verse ..... here is another CLICK Printer: Sanderson (Edinburgh) Date: between 1830 and 1910 |
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30 Sep 06 - 05:43 PM (#1847144) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: nutty I've just remembered. Will Noble has also recorded a version of this song. I think it's on one of the Veteran CD's. I seem to remember that the tune Will sings is slightly different to the one given in the abc on the thread linked to by Mick. |
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30 Sep 06 - 05:57 PM (#1847153) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Q (Frank Staplin) Two versions, one with music, are given in "Sam Henry's Songs of the People," pp. 459-460. "I'm From Over the Mountain" was printed in 1925 in "The Northern Constitution" as "A song of an elopement." Source not given. With music. The other version, "I'm from over the Mountain," printed at the same time, was from John Marshall, Glasgow, from his mother (Ireland), c. 1900. |
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30 Sep 06 - 06:29 PM (#1847163) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Malcolm Douglas Here is a full list of editions at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads: [The true-lover's] trip o'er the mountain There are two entries at The Fiddler's Companion, which provide a little additional information: The Trip we took over the Mountain(s) The tune in Henry is similar to the transcription from the 'Boys oif the Lough' recording (where did they learn it from?) but bears only a slight resemblance to the purely instrumental versions popularised by Willie Clancy and Seamus Ennis (which are perhaps the best known nowadays). Ennis said that he had his from his grandfather, and played a distinctive flattened note which can be found (approximated rather unsatisfactorily) in some online transcriptions: this may just have been one of his idiosyncratic pipering affectations, though. A few other recordings and examples from oral currency (plus a lot of broadsides) are listed in the Roud Folk Song Index: Roud 9632 I wouldn't as a rule place too much trust in song transcriptions at Cantaria. Apparently Will Noble got the song from Arthur Howard. It seems to be pretty rare outside Ireland, and it's mildly surprising that it should have shown up in Yorkshire. |
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30 Sep 06 - 06:54 PM (#1847172) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: MartinRyan The Boys of the Lough version may well have been from Sam Henry's collection, via Cathal McConnell. Regards |
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30 Sep 06 - 07:46 PM (#1847205) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Matthew Edwards This is one of the compositions published by Hugh McWilliams, Schoolmaster in his Poems and Songs on Various Subjects in Belfast in 1831. John Moulden has republished some of the songs of this extraordinary folk poet in a little booklet for Ulstersongs in 1993. Of the thirty-two songs that McWilliams published in 1831, eight entered the repertoire of traditional singers and have been collected from such great singers as Robert Cinnamond and Eddie Butcher. This substantiates John Moulden's bold claim that "Hugh McWilliams wrote traditional songs" especially when the songs include The Trip o'er the Mountain, A Man in Love, The Lass among the Heather |
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02 Oct 06 - 09:19 PM (#1848872) Subject: Lyr Add: A TRIP O'ER THE MOUNTAIN From: Jim Dixon From Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads, B 17(319a). A TRIP O'ER THE MOUNTAIN Sanderson, Printer, High Street, Edinburgh [between 1830 and 1910] 'Twas night when the moon luminated the sky, When I first took a notion to marry, I drew to my hat, and away I did hie, You would think I had been in a hurry. When I came to the house where I often had been, My heart gave a leap when my charmer I seen; I pull'd up the latch, and I bid her good e'en, And I said, will you come o'er the mountain? (She) What notions are these you have got in your head? I am glad to see you so merry; 'Tis twelve by the clock, and I should be in bed, Speak low, or my mother will hear you. (He) But if I be jesting, my jesting is true— We have courted a year, and I think it should do; Before that I sleep, I will marry with you, If you venture with me o'er the mountain. (She) Oh! well you're in earnest, I say with a sigh, Kind providence will be my director; I have love in my bosom I'll never deny. (He) The sentence does seem to affect her. I'm rising (sic; using?) no magic, no scheme, or no spell— I've a true honest heart, and I love you right well; But if you refuse me, sweet girl, farewell; My steps I'll retrace o'er the mountain. (She) If I were to make an elopement with you, It might be attended with danger; The country would tattle, and censure me too, My friends they would frown, and no wonder. (He) We'll just let them tattle and censure away, Consult for yourself for it's wearing near day; I don't care a fig what the whole of them say, If I once had you o'er the mountain. (She) O, well, I'm resolved at home for to stay, I think it far safer and better. (He) Then farewell again, my sweet girl, I'll away, So that puts an end to the matter. (She) Stop, stop a wee moment, till I get my shoes. (He) My heart was rejoiced when I heard this glad news. She flew to the door, saying, I hope you'll excuse My simplicity o'er the mountain. By that time fair Cynthia had sunk to the west, And the morning star clearly was shining, It's then we pursued our journey in haste, And joined at the altar of Hymen; So it's now in contentment we spend the long day, And the pleasure of it is not soon stole away; We often sit chatting, when we have little to do, Of the trip we took o'er the mountain. |
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02 Oct 06 - 09:44 PM (#1848882) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Q (Frank Staplin) Now if someone would print the midi to the Sam Henry tune- |
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02 Oct 06 - 10:19 PM (#1848892) Subject: Lyr. Add: I'M FROM OVER THE MOUNTAIN From: Q (Frank Staplin) Lyric. Add: I'M FROM OVER THE MOUNTAIN (From Sam Henry, H161a, p. 459. With music) It happened to be on a moonshiny night That I took a notion to marry. I drew to my hat, took my staff in my hand, Just as I had been in a hurry. I urged along where I oftimes had been. My heart it rejoiced when my charmer was seen. I lifted the latch and I bade her 'Good e'en'. Says I, 'I'm from over the mountain.' 'What notion of jesting came into your head? I'm glad for to meet you so merry. It's twelve by the clock and the old folk in bed. Speak low or you'll waken my mammy.' 'If that be a jest, then it's jesting, that's true. I've courted a year and I think that'll do, So this very nicht I will marry wi' you, If you venture wi' me o'er the mountain.' 'Oh no, my wee laddie. I'll stay as I am. I think it is fitter and better.' I drew to my hat, took my staff in my hand, Saying, 'I'll soon put an end to the matter.' 'Oh wait, my wee laddie, till I get my shoes.' My heart it rejoiced when I heard the glad news. I drew to the door saying, 'I hope you'll excuse My simplicity frae over the mountain.' The moon and the stars luminated the sky. The morning star was brightly shining As me and my darling our journey pursued Till we came to the altar of Hymen. Wi' fiddling and dancing we spent the whole day, And the anger of marriage it soon rolled away, And I unto my wee lassie did say, 'Do you rue coming over the mountain?' 'Oh no, my wee laddie, it's I dinna rue, I ta'en the advice of my laddie, And when I am over the mountain wi' you, I regard not the friends o' my daddy.' Let that be a warning to every fair maid: Slip out in the dark when the old folks in bed, And ne'er be afraid wi' her laddie to wed Or to venture with him o'er the mountain. Click to play |
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02 Oct 06 - 10:45 PM (#1848902) Subject: RE: Lyr req. Trip o'er the mountain From: Stewart Here is a version from his family in Ireland, sung by Paddy Graber in Vancouver, B. C. (Canada). I've transcribed the words he sings and a link to an mp3 file of Paddy singing the first verse. It's different from the usual tune, but the tune that his family used, so he says. The Trip Over The Mountain – as sung by Paddy Graber on his CD "Paddy Graber - The Craic Was Great" One night when the moonlight was bright in the sky Sure I first took me notion to marry I put on me hat and away I did hie, You might think I was in a great hurry. I went to a door where I often had been Oh me heart gave a leap when me darling I seen As she opened the door sure I bade her good night Saying will you come over the mountain? Some sort of a jest has got into your head But I'm glad for to see you so merry; 'Tis past twelve o'clock and you should be in bed, Oh speak soft or you'll waken me Mammy! If you think that I'm jesting, my jesting is true, Sure I courted twelve months, and I think that will do And before I do go I'll be married to you If you'll come with me over the mountain. If I were to make an elopement with you It might well be attended by danger; Oh the neighbors would tattle and prattle us too Me friends they would frown all in wonder! Well, let them all tattle and prattle away Consult with yourself for it's very near day For I don't give a pin what the whole of them say If you come with me over the mountain. Oh I have resolved at home for to stay, For I think it more fitting and better. Then fare-thee-well darling I must be away And sure that puts an end to the matter. Oh, wait, wait one moment till I get me shoes, Me heart gave a leap when I heard the glad news, She ran to the door saying maybe I'll choose To come with you over the mountain. By that time the moon had gone down in the sky And the morning star bright was shining. We both made our way with the greatest of haste For a marriage our two heart were pining. We went to the sagart without more delay, He married us both on that very same day, And often we smile when we've little to say Of the trip we took over the mountain. Cheers, S. in Seattle |
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03 Oct 06 - 01:51 PM (#1849398) Subject: ADD Tune: I'm From Over the Mountain From: Joe Offer Here's the music from the birst version of "I'm From Over the Mountain" from Sam Henry's Songs of the People. Q posted the lyrics above. Great song, isn't it? -Joe- Click to play |
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03 Oct 06 - 02:54 PM (#1849456) Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Trip o'er the Mountain From: Q (Frank Staplin) I agree, a great song. Thanks for the midis and clip from the Paddy Graber cd. I am surprised that this song wasn't picked up by the American popular folk singers of the 1960's and after (At least I haven't found a recording by them). It seems to be better known outside of Ireland in classic arrangement by Howard Ferguson, "Irish Folk Songs (5) Opus 17. It may be found on a Chandos disc (out-of-print) with the other four from Opus 17, and his Sonatas #1 and #2. |
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03 Oct 06 - 04:25 PM (#1849524) Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Trip o'er the Mountain From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Christy O'Leary did a great version of this on his album The Northern Bridge (Old Bridge Music). I've lost my copy (though not before I borrowed the first two lines of the melody for my own song The Race) but this is a terriffic album. |
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04 Oct 06 - 11:38 AM (#1850189) Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Trip o'er the Mountain From: GUEST,Frances Rodgers Many thanks folks for the words, the links and the useful info! |
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