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Lyr Req: 'Far o'er the restless sea we roam....'

03 Oct 06 - 04:13 PM (#1849515)
Subject: Lyr Req: Unknown sea lyrics
From: GUEST,Fred James

I would like to find the origin of the following lines, which sound as if they came from a song of the sea: "Far o'er the restless sea we roam, we long ago became as slaves, with ne'er a thought of going home".
Anyone know that one?
Thanks.


03 Oct 06 - 05:06 PM (#1849549)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Unknown sea lyrics
From: Joe Offer

I googled and checked Mudcat for "restless sea we roam" and "long ago became as slaves," and no cigar. "Restless sea" was too common a term to search.
But basically, this is to refresh the thread...


03 Oct 06 - 05:20 PM (#1849560)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Sounds like something from a poem by Australian Poet called Henry kendall, but I don't have his book anymore, sorry.


03 Oct 06 - 06:37 PM (#1849640)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Snuffy

Is this the one, Dave? The Poems of Henry Kendall at Project Gutenberg


03 Oct 06 - 07:25 PM (#1849682)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Peace

He wrote three books of verse:

Poems and Songs (1862)
Leaves from Australian Forests (1869)
Songs from the Mountains (1880)


04 Oct 06 - 09:35 AM (#1850068)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Bob Bolton

G'day Dave(tam),

I downloaded the Project Gutenberg "Poems of Henry Kendall" file and searched (just using "restless" in a simple search) and did not find the phrase quoted.

I also looked through my Selected Poems of Henry Kendall, Angus & Robertson, Sydney, 1957 - and did not see any titles that suggested the type of poem from which such a quote might come.

Regards,

Bob


04 Oct 06 - 09:53 AM (#1850080)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Peace

I did the same as Bob, basically. No luck either. I doubt both of us would have missed it. If HK IS the writer, it's something that wasn't included in the works on the Project Gutenberg site. Do you have ANY other words? Any other info at all?


04 Oct 06 - 10:17 AM (#1850109)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Snuffy

I can't find "restless sea" in Adam Lindsay Gordon or Charles Harpur poems either


04 Oct 06 - 12:49 PM (#1850278)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Not in Christopher Stone, "Sea Songs and Ballads," Oxford.


04 Oct 06 - 03:15 PM (#1850404)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Thanks for looking guys, I never thought they would all be online in pdf format. I guess I was wrong about the phrase. (Old age getting the better of me)


04 Oct 06 - 09:22 PM (#1850658)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Bob Bolton

G'day again,

GUEST,Fred James: I can see how the words you quoted would have suggested to Dave (the ancient mariner) that the text might be about the convict / exile experience - so it might well come from the early settlement of Australia ... or the earlier (pre-revolution) period of British occupation of America (... or Canada ...).

It might, just as well, refer to free migration and an inevitable period of hard work in establishing a new life ... somewhere else.

Do you have any more memories of lines from the same work? I think we need a few more clues before we find this one!

Regards,

Bob


05 Oct 06 - 11:45 AM (#1851089)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Peace

Where is Guest, Fred James? We need more info. Please.


06 Oct 06 - 10:43 AM (#1852002)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: GUEST,Fred James

I appreciate all the effort put forth on this. I'm afraid I don't have any additional words from the quote. This quote is contained in a transcription of a 1945 half-hour radio program that tells the story of an old man forced to leave his home in the west. The story features a quotation from John Home's play, "Douglas" which uses the old ballad "Norval on the Grampian Hills" as its inspiration. I suspect that the unknown author of the script may have had a book of verse at hand to select the unknown quote, which he uses to contrast the old man's longing for his precious hills with that of a roaming seaman who has no home. Possibly the ballad and the unknown verse are in the same book.


06 Oct 06 - 07:29 PM (#1852372)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Peace

Thank you very much, Fred. That then provides a place to start--and many places not to start. Most appreciated.


10 Oct 06 - 11:25 PM (#1855525)
Subject: RE: Req: Unknown sea lyrics-Far o'er the restless sea
From: Jim Dixon

When I used Google Book Search with the phrase "Far o'er the restless sea," it found this:

Australian Idylls and Bush Rhymes
by Ernest G. Henty, E. A. Henty Starkey - 1896 - 79 pages
Page 28
No preview available

Unfortunately, using other phrases from the quote supplied did not produce encouraging results.