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13 Oct 06 - 11:39 AM (#1857896) Subject: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles It's ALWAYS the day someone dies, so can we have ONE general OBIT thread for everybody whose death day it is on the day, instead of all these annoying ' it's Adolf fecking Hitlers fecking deathday ' it's getting as bad as the BBC radio 2 folk and roots board. |
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13 Oct 06 - 11:40 AM (#1857898) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Some buggers birthday |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:08 PM (#1857929) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST It's karma, Shambles, karma. Karma is the new bad word on mudcat. People see it and they delete it. |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:17 PM (#1857937) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Wolfgang Echolalia Wolfgang |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:22 PM (#1857941) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Wolfgang Do you really think, Shambles, it's a good idea to start this thread on the very day Jerry Rasmussen has told us about the death of his mother? Wolfgang |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:25 PM (#1857944) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Pedant |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:27 PM (#1857945) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,some bugger wolfie.. that little snide attempt at point scoring don't make you look too good either.. [look up 'insensitivity' , 'exploitation', 'misfortune' in a dictionary..] |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:37 PM (#1857952) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: jeffp Shambles has never been accused of having good taste. Or caring about anyone besides himself. |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:40 PM (#1857954) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Pedantry can also be an indication of certain developmental disorders. In particular those with Asperger Syndrome, or Higher Functioning Autism, often have behavior characterized by pedantic speech [1]. Those with Asperger's tend to obsess over the minutiae of subjects, and are prone to giving long detailed expositions, and the related corrections, and may gravitate to careers in academia or science where such obsessive attention to detail is often rewarded. Wolfgang You are perfectly aware that this thread was not started as a comment on or a reaction to any other thread than the judgement contained in the Some Buggers birthday thread. For what it is worth - my opinion of OBIT threads on our forum will not change no matter who may have died. But that is not stopping anyone with a different view from starting or contributing to such threads and as you are also fully aware - I make no judgement here of those who choose to do this. I would be greateful if you would stop posting only to make personal judgements on my worth. |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:47 PM (#1857960) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Elmer Fudd I too sense a Freudian slip in the timing of this thread that is both cruel and disgraceful. |
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13 Oct 06 - 12:54 PM (#1857968) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Big Mick Sometimes, when one is driven by self serving, and neurosis driven, goals, they fail to see the 2x4 in their own eye. |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:01 PM (#1857977) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST So ignore it. |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:06 PM (#1857978) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles I too sense a Freudian slip in the timing of this thread that is both cruel and disgraceful. Give a dog a bad name eh! A look at just some of the thread titles that this thread currently shares on our forum. Shameful legacy-150,000 Kenyans Detained Axis of Idiocy defends occupation/2660 Iraq deaths Iraq War Casualty Figures - 2,660 civilians Amish shooting When is it going to end? Had a comment actually been made in the thread you refer to - such over-reactions could be thought understandable. But this is just another thread and the timing its timing unrelated to the thread referred to or any of the others listed in this post. |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:16 PM (#1857986) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: alanabit I am going to second Wolfgang's earlier comment. It may be an unfortunate coincidence that this thread was started on the day that Jerry Rasmussen's mother died. Any other interpretation makes it look mean spirited and cruel. |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:17 PM (#1857987) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Art Blakey's birthday squabble |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:17 PM (#1857988) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,some bugger frankly shambles.. your repetition more than often bores the tits off me.. however.. the forum bullies who constantly gang up to pick on you and troll your threads strike me as a nasty hostile bunch of old gits who are a much greater part of any problems here. your heart is most probaly in the right place shambles.. I wouldn't want to think what dark places the bullying hearts inhabit. |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:29 PM (#1857994) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Wesley S "it's getting as bad as the BBC radio 2 folk and roots board." That's from Shambles initial post. Shambles - might I suggest that if you don't like the topic then you don't have to open the thread and read and/or contribute to it? As a matter of fact I seem to remember that that is the advice that you have offered many posters over the years. Please don't make value judgements of the threads that others have started. You are free to not post to any thread you don't like. To suggest that other threads be combined because you don't like them sounds like censorship. We wouldn't want that now - would we? And if this is just another thinly veiled complaint thread shouldn't it be combined with your already existing complaint thread? |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:42 PM (#1858005) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST Wes, you too could combine your pleas to the one thread. It (the thread) would overtake MOAB in no time. Shambles posts one thing, his detractors post 47, then one by Shambles, then 32 by his detractors. Hey, in NO time. Like, it's KARMA man. |
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13 Oct 06 - 01:56 PM (#1858016) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Big Mick Bullshit. To suggest this crap is to ignore 8 years of this stuff. To look at the threads that Shambles starts and ignore the obvious motive (read that the Birthday threads)is disengenous at best. When one reads Shambles complaints about the mod's, and then compares this site to any other out there, one realizes that he wouldn't even be allowed to post on most. There is less moderation here than almost anywhere. Anyone who suggests different is either ignorant of the facts, or has an agenda. The treatment that Shambles gets, usually from folks that have been around long enough to be able to view his history in context, is well deserved. There are people here who I admire. They contribute in a positive way. We don't always agree, but I still admire them. I have no admiration for Roger. He is as destructive to the friendly atmosphere here as Martin Gibson ever was. Those of you who get sucked into his phoney, self serving, and pseudo intellectual arguments just look silly. There ya go, Sham. You have plenty to attack. But it won't make any difference. One day you will be out of here. I can wait. |
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13 Oct 06 - 02:05 PM (#1858025) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST What 'friendly' atmosphere, Mick? |
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13 Oct 06 - 02:09 PM (#1858032) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST "Mum, Mick called us silly" "Tell him to look in the mirror son." |
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13 Oct 06 - 02:20 PM (#1858042) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST Is it the 'two legs good, four legs bad' that Shambles has alluded to? Any chance he's correct about that? |
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13 Oct 06 - 02:30 PM (#1858052) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST What is there about the word karma that gets it deleted so easily? |
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13 Oct 06 - 02:31 PM (#1858055) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles "it's getting as bad as the BBC radio 2 folk and roots board." Wesley S - have you really not noticed that what you post above - was simply an ironic comment and gentle parody of the views expressed in the first thread of 'Some buggers birthday'? |
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13 Oct 06 - 02:41 PM (#1858065) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: skipy Here we go again, squaring up for another squabble! I'm on Wolfgangs team! Skipy Instead of long drawnout opniions why not just declare you side! |
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13 Oct 06 - 03:03 PM (#1858092) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,some bugger by the way, this thread title is very surprising news to me !? |
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13 Oct 06 - 03:45 PM (#1858113) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles The whole point of posting on our forum for me is to able to post and read posters honest views. The problem I find with all OBIT threads is that this is not always the case. We are all going to die but I feel that this is less important than how our lives are lived and the time of death - may not be thought the best time to celebrate this. For when someone has just died - folk do not alway feel that posting their honest views is the right thing or feel they may be thought not to be showing enough respect if they do. Inhibiting free discussion in the thread in question in this way is bad enough but allowing all the other threads to be inhibited by the mere presence of obit threads is something else. As demonstrated here - posters are even judged as being 'cruel and disgraceful' when they have not even opened or read any Obit threads let alone posted to them. But just by the coincidence of starting another thread at the same time as they share our forum's index of thread titles. Perhaps all this may be well-intentioned but it is I suggest, taking the showing of respect - and this current witch-hunt on our forum a little too far? And the keeness for some to be seen to wish to use this unfortunate coincidence in this way, is showing our forum in a less than positive light. |
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13 Oct 06 - 03:57 PM (#1858119) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: skipy What bloody witch-hunt? Skipy |
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13 Oct 06 - 03:58 PM (#1858120) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Becca72 It's those damned windmills again! |
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13 Oct 06 - 04:44 PM (#1858160) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST No. It's KARMA. |
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13 Oct 06 - 05:02 PM (#1858172) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,Jon "it's getting as bad as the BBC radio 2 folk and roots board." ??? Birthday and obit threads aren't regular features there. |
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13 Oct 06 - 07:21 PM (#1858291) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: George Papavgeris Jon, don't let reality get in the way of a good example :-) |
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14 Oct 06 - 06:23 AM (#1858531) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Art Thieme's computer has died Is the timing of that thread also judged to be both cruel and disgraceful. or the result of being driven by self serving, and neurosis driven, goals? |
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14 Oct 06 - 06:27 AM (#1858534) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles ??? Birthday and obit threads aren't regular features there. Jon- perhaps you should take that point up with eric? Subject: Some buggers birthday From: eric the red - PM Date: 13 Oct 06 - 09:54 AM It's ALWAYS someones birthday, so can we haveONE general thread for everybody whose birthday it is on the day, instead of all these annoying ' it's Adolf fecking Hitlers fecking birthday ' it's getting as bad as the BBC radio 2 folk and roots board. eric |
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14 Oct 06 - 06:42 AM (#1858538) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,Jon No need, shambles, the point has been made. I hadn't looked at the other thread, etc. |
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14 Oct 06 - 06:44 AM (#1858540) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: George Papavgeris "You're so vain, I bet you think this thread is about you...". Whoops, an ego is showing... Shambles, where in Jon's message did you see a reference to your good self? He WAS taking up the point with Eric. |
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14 Oct 06 - 06:49 AM (#1858542) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,Jon Actually George, I thought it had originated from Shambles. (I suppose I should have checked shambles link in this one to find out we had copy-cat threads, checked the times to find which was the original, etc. but I didn't bother) |
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14 Oct 06 - 07:36 AM (#1858565) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: George Papavgeris OK, Shambles, I take my last post back. Thanks Jon. |
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14 Oct 06 - 07:46 AM (#1858566) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles "You're so vain, I bet you think this thread is about you...". Whoops, an ego is showing... I have found that it takes and ego to recognise an ego. I have always thought that to be a very silly song. If you write a song making a judgement about how vain you consider people of your aquantance to be - then you can hardly judge them again in the song, for thinking the song is about them. Because the song plainly is about them. |
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14 Oct 06 - 08:06 AM (#1858575) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: George Papavgeris I do like the song, Roger - I take the "double judgement" you refer to to be a tacit recognition on the part of the writer that they still like the other person. I don't know what the correct name is for such a construct, but to quote MPFS: "It's a pun..." :-) As for the ego - touche, you can have that one. I'm not on form this morning. |
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14 Oct 06 - 08:24 AM (#1858581) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles C: I understand this IS Bolton. O: (still with the fake mustache) Yes? C: You told me it was Ipswitch! O: ...It was a pun. C: (pause) A PUN?!? O: No, no...not a pun...What's that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards? C: (Long pause) A palindrome...? O: Yeah, that's it! C: It's not a palindrome! The palindrome of "Bolton" would be "Notlob"!! It don't work!! O: Well, what do you want? C: I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly! Sergeant-Major: Quite agree, quite agree, too silly, far too silly... |
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14 Oct 06 - 08:49 AM (#1858593) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: George Papavgeris 8-) |
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14 Oct 06 - 09:46 AM (#1858640) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Dave Hanson Quite correct Jon, the point was that the BBC radio 2 folk and acoustic message board is entirely made up of people gushing about their favourite :- artiste/band/dance group or whatever, it's become a waste of time, it seemed like the Mudcat was getting full of celebrity birthday threads, who cares ? eric |
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14 Oct 06 - 12:21 PM (#1858736) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,Jon Ah, I'm with you now, Eric... I think an observer here might be forgiven for believing this birthday thread trend at Mudcat has more to do with the both the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team's known "dislike" of birthday threads and issues related to the length of thread titles than Mudcat becoming very "fan orientated" though. |
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14 Oct 06 - 01:23 PM (#1858786) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: *Laura* ummm. You spelt 'buggers' wrong..... :-) xLx |
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15 Oct 06 - 11:36 AM (#1859373) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Oh Bugger! |
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16 Oct 06 - 12:07 AM (#1859972) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Seamus Kennedy I believe it should be "Some Bulgars Died" Roger. Seamus |
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16 Oct 06 - 02:14 AM (#1860003) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles I understand that its all about getting one's 'Rs' in the right place. Or indeed the wrong place...........Or so I am told. Or to get this thread on the music section - I could have tried a title like 'some buglers' died'. But I am not one to blow my own trumpet. |
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16 Oct 06 - 05:13 AM (#1860071) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Dave Hanson The last post perchance ? eric |
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16 Oct 06 - 06:06 AM (#1860106) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles The Last Roar Ready to 'give up the ghost' Sound the 'last post' Where are your friends, when you need them the most? |
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16 Oct 06 - 08:25 AM (#1860189) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Dave Hanson Yes, always remember " a friend in need, is a pain in the arse " eric |
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16 Oct 06 - 08:35 AM (#1860201) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Yes, always remember " a friend in need, is a pain in the arse " Is holding one's butt - the freemason's distress signal then? |
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16 Oct 06 - 08:53 AM (#1860215) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles Subject: Bugle Calls From: The Walrus at work - PM Date: 15 Mar 02 - 09:08 AM Traditonally, buglers tend to memorise sets of (sometimes very odd) lyrics as an aid to remembering bugle calls, for example, from the British Army of the Great War period (and through the 20th Century): THE ROUSE Get out of bed, get out of bed, You lazy bastards Get out of bed, get out of bed, You lazy bastards I feel sorry for you....I do!" or SICK CALL Sixty four, Ninety four, He'll never go sick no more The poor bugger's dead I wondered if anyone out there had any others. |
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16 Oct 06 - 10:12 AM (#1860303) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: GUEST,Budge some budgerigars died ! my nan's old budgie just made an odd sqwarking noise and dropped stone cold dead off it's perch |
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16 Oct 06 - 12:05 PM (#1860414) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: The Shambles The budgie is buggered. Or is it just resting? |
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16 Oct 06 - 12:10 PM (#1860416) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: number 6 bulger wheat. sIx |
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17 Oct 06 - 04:23 AM (#1861079) Subject: RE: Some buggars died. From: Dave Hanson It's probably pining for the fiords. eric |