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28 Oct 06 - 11:51 AM (#1870789) Subject: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Alice Since the Florida election that gave the state to Bush and appointed him president, I've been reading about the way Republicans in Florida deliberately planned and executed a general purge of lower income and African American Democratic voters in Florida to tip the balance of that election. It didn't stop there. When I saw on the news how confident GW and Rove are, SO confident the Republicans will win this election, I smelled a rat. The plan to purge Democratic voters in Ohio has been carried out! That is why he is so smug. Diebold in their pocket, underhanded campaigns to purge Democrats from the voting lists, gerrymandering, and so forth.... read on. - Alice ============== October 18, 2006 at 21:57:37 opednews.com Rob Kall Ohio voting rights activist and attorney, Bob Fitrakis, says the Ohio elections may have already been won, responding to reports of massive voter purges in Democratic precincts. Dr. Fitrakis, told OpEdNews, "Essentially, by purging these rolls, the Republicans, by shrinking the electorate, have already won in Ohio. If they can't win, which is what the polls show among registered voters, the way to win is to use their nuclear option-- to target black voters, young voters and the working poor-- by purging them so they can't vote. Reports indicate that starting as early as shortly after the 2004 presidential elections, but particularly recently, hundreds of thousands of voters-- mostly urban apartment dwellers (likely black) and students-- who are primarily Democratic-- were sent notifications that they would be purged from the eligible voter lists if they did not respond the letter. But, reportedly, the letter was designed to be easily overlooked, perhaps treated as junk mail. Failure to send in a response caused the voter to be removed from the voting roll. Fitrakis observes, "They aren't challenging voter eligibility in Republican areas. This is coming from the republican party. They're not targeting their own base. "If it follows the pattern from 2004, they will have purged heavily Democratic areas. They will challenge high performance democratic precincts." According to Fitrakis, HAVA, the Help America Vote Act, requires centrally maintained voter records, which would probably have been kept by secretary of state Ken Blackwell. Fitrakis theorizes, that the voter records were "probably purged from the secretary of state's office, because HAVA mandates a centrally located database. But the letters would have gone out from the separate county boards of election." This is part of the challenge. It may be necessary to actually deal with each of the 88 counties. Fitrakis says, "We're up against 88 county prosecutors. That's what they've been doing for two years. It's been killing us. They say we have to get the records from the county-- you literally have to fax phone or show up to literally demand these records." OpEdNews asked Bob Fitrakis, "What can be done?" "What can voting integrity activists do?" What can the Democratic party do? Fitrakis replied, "We're going to try desperately to get to the bottom of this and try on Friday to get an injunction-- Monday, at the latest. We asked, "Is there any chance that this can be turned around." "Yes, A federal judge can issue an order to reinstate all the purged voters," says Fitrakis. What can readers and activists do to help? They can tell the DNC, tell the Ohio State democratic party to either file a suit separately or in cooperation with Fitrakis and the ongoing suit he's had filed since the 2004 election. Fitrakis says, ""Put pressure on the democrats to bring suit. "I would urge the DNC-- the party can't let this stand. They could proceed to Federal court and argue that this is a civil rights case-- against blacks and young people. They could file their own suit. They could join our suit. There are a lot of ways they could do it procedurally. They could intervene as an independent party. They could join our lawsuit I would welcome any action by them. "They have to realize the election might have been decided by these purges. My book, that I wrote with Harvey Wasserman, reported that in 2004, the only reason the race was even close was because of the purging done in 2004 in the Democratic counties. "When we go, we'll ask for an injunction, amending this to our existing, arguing that this irreparable harm to the civil rights of hundreds of thousands of Ohio voters, that they're being targeted because of their race and age." According to Fitrakis, the letters were sent out and purges timed, so voters could not get their voting eligibility status reinstated, because the voting registration period just ended. Worse, there was no reason to purge the voters, which is usually reserved for people who have died or moved out of state. They should have been moved to inactive status. Fitrakis explained, "They were probably purged because they moved. If they were registered to vote, they were eligible to vote simply by going to the board of election. They should have been moved to inactive status. There was no reason to purge these people." We suspect it's probably going on a number of other battleground states. Fitrakis speculated. There are considerable costs in filing suit and serving papers and subpoenas. If you want to support Fitrakis' courageous efforts, donations can be submitted at freepress.org then click on the election protection project. Another way YOU might be able to make a difference is to ask your local daily paper and your legislators to push for investigation of these abuses of democracy. Take action -- click here to contact your local newspaper or congress people: Click here |
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28 Oct 06 - 12:57 PM (#1870825) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: katlaughing Whew...thanks Alice! I will be forwarding this on to the CO Democrats AND several friends. Interesting to note, when I went to electronically vote, I asked if the machines were Diebold. They didn't know. I couldn't find any makers' marks, but have since found out they are not. I also stopped mid-voting and asked to clear it and be able to come back later. They tol dme they couldn't do that, that I had to finish voting. I protested but they wouldn't budge. I later called the Director or Elections. She called them and told them they most certainly can stop a vote, at the request of the individual voter. When I told her I felt my voter rights had been violated and I wanted to rescind my vote then vote by absentee ballot (something I didn't know the Dems were asking all to do) she checked with the Sec. of State who said no, because it would be double voting. The only thing she could offer was a "provisional vote" which I have to go fill out there. Then, they check the records, see if I'd already voted. If I don't show up, not likely, then they would use the provisional vote. Needless to say, I am kicking myself for not insisting they call her while i was there. Even though this is a predominately GOP stronghold, I don't think the voting place people were doing it on purpose. I think they were just ignorant. |
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28 Oct 06 - 12:59 PM (#1870827) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Janice in NJ No surprise here! Even in its heyday, American democracy was serious flawed. Remember the poll tax, the white-male-only elections, and the Jim Crow laws? But since 2000 what little there was has been going to hell in a handbasket. The situation worsened by leaps and bounds after 9/11, but the trend was already in place. In retrospect I only wish that Al Gore didn't cave in without a fight. The possibility of civil war makes me shudder, but I am even more frightened by what we know was the alternative. Better that Amercican democracy go out with a bang than with a whimper! |
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28 Oct 06 - 01:00 PM (#1870828) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Rapparee Having been (albeit long ago) a voter registrar in Ohio, I can say that then we always had the registrant fill out a card with their old address and this was sent to their previous county of residence. |
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28 Oct 06 - 01:22 PM (#1870848) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Don Firth Interesting! When the primary election was imminent, I still hadn't received my absentee ballot in the mail. I telephoned the King County Elections office and ask "How come?" I was informed that my registration had "lapsed." I first registered to vote in 1952, when I turned 21. Other than notifying the elections office of changes of address, and requesting to be put on the list for absentee ballots some years back, I have never had to do anything beyond that. And my registration has never "lapsed" before. The nice lady said she would get an absentee ballot out to me right away and send me a couple of other forms to fill out, which she did. In addition to the ballot, she sent me a new registration ID card (no new information on it, same address and precinct and district info as before) and another form to fill out requesting to be put on the permanent list to receive absentee ballots. Same form I had filled out some years back. For the November 7th election, I received the absentee ballot a few days ago, so I'm okay for now. So--was this little glitch just a clerical error? Or do I have a reason to get paranoid? All of this taking place in the "Soviet of Washington." Stay on top of it, folks! Don Firth |
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29 Oct 06 - 08:08 AM (#1871278) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: kendall The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. (T. Jefferson) |
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29 Oct 06 - 09:33 AM (#1871319) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy The "Jim Crow" laws were made by Democrats and enforced by the KKK. ...Radical Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1866 which gave freed men legal rights (but not the right to vote). The country, by 1870, passed the 14th and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution, guaranteeing civil rights and the right to vote. The southern states came under Republican control--a party comprising the Freedmen, white Southerners ("Scalawags") and migrants from the North ("Carpetbaggers"). The Ku Klux Klan and related groups reacted violently, but they were suppressed by President Ulysses S. Grant using the federal courts and troops. By 1877, the conservatives and Democrats, forming a Redeemer coalition, (The Redeemers were a loose political coalition in the southern United States during the Reconstruction era, who sought to re-establish the rule of white supremacy by overthrowing the Radical Republican coalition of Freedmen, carpetbaggers and Scalawags. They were the southern wing of the Bourbon Democrats, the conservative, pro-business wing of the Democratic Party. Their membership was from diverse social, economic and political backgrounds.) ousted all the Republican governments. From 1877 down to the 1970s, the Southern Democrats controlled every Southern state nearly all the time. After 1877, the Redeemers reversed many of the civil rights gains that black Americans had made during Reconstruction, passing laws that mandated discrimination by both local governments and by private citizens. Since "Jim Crow law" is a blanket term for any of this type of legislation, the exact date of inception for the laws varies by state. The most important laws came in the 1890s and the adoption of legislation segregating railroad cars in New Orleans as the first genuine Jim Crow law. By 1915, every Southern state had effectively destroyed the gains in civil rights and liberties that blacks had enjoyed due to the Reconstructionist efforts. Between 1890 and 1910, many state governments prevented most blacks from voting by various techniques, such as poll taxes and literacy tests. (These could be waived for whites due to grandfather clauses.) It is estimated that of 181,000 African-American males of voting age in Alabama in 1900, only 3,000 were registered to vote.... |
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29 Oct 06 - 09:52 AM (#1871326) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Richard Bridge If so, old guy, so what? |
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29 Oct 06 - 10:03 AM (#1871333) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: katlaughing And the GOP ain't the party my grandmother belonged to! As has been said before, what is relevant is what is NOW. The Dems are a party of equality and inclusion, while the GOP (Gross Old Poops!) would segregate, denigrate, and ostracize whole classes of the population, in fact in some cases they are already doing so. Why don't you join the 21st century? |
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29 Oct 06 - 10:35 AM (#1871360) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy Ask Janice so what: "From: Janice in NJ - PM Date: 28 Oct 06 - 12:59 PM No surprise here! Even in its heyday, American democracy was serious flawed. Remember the poll tax, the white-male-only elections, and the Jim Crow laws?" I am illustrating the origin and enforcement of the Jim Crow Laws. "Come listen all you galls and boys, I'm going to sing a little song, My name is Jim Crow. Weel about and turn about and do jis so, Eb'ry time I weel about I jump Jim Crow." Jim Crow was Thomas Dartmouth "Daddy" Rice. In 1828 Rice appeared on stage as "Jim Crow" -- an exaggerated, highly stereotypical Black character. Jim Crow Rice, a White man, was one of the first performers to wear blackface makeup -- his skin was darkened with burnt cork. |
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29 Oct 06 - 10:46 AM (#1871371) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Alice o.g. two wrongs don't make a right. Whoever interferes with voting needs to be exposed and stopped. You are the king of "if they did it, then don't criticize my guys for doing it". Sheesh, when will you give up on that? |
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29 Oct 06 - 11:03 AM (#1871384) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: GUEST There was a bloodless coup in America when the puppet Bush was first installed in power. |
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29 Oct 06 - 11:05 AM (#1871386) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: catspaw49 Alice......Old Guy does not believe that two wrongs make a right......but he thinks that three do. Spaw |
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29 Oct 06 - 11:19 AM (#1871397) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: pdq "CIVIL RIGHTS – Civil Rights Act of 1957" "In 1957, President Eisenhower sent Congress a proposal for civil rights legislation. The result was the Civil Rights Act of 1957, the first civil rights legislation since Reconstruction. The new act established the Civil Rights Section of the Justice Department and empowered federal prosecutors to obtain court injunctions against interference with the right to vote. It also established a federal Civil Rights Commission with authority to investigate discriminatory conditions and recommend corrective measures. The final act was weakened by Congress due to the lack of support among the Democrats." |
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29 Oct 06 - 11:29 AM (#1871409) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Alice Yup, Democrats in the 50's were identified with the white racists in the South. IT IS 2006! Times have changed, and those white racists in the south vote Republican now, and the Republican party courts them. Wake up to the 21st Century! |
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29 Oct 06 - 11:43 AM (#1871422) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Alice Here's more about the topic of this thread, the situation in Ohio and the law suit against the state's Republicans in power who are making it harder, not easier, for voters. http://votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1620&Itemid=113 quote in part "The truth is that while Ken Blackwell talks about making voting easier, he consistently takes steps that make it more difficult," Senator Dann remarked. "In 2004 he tried to impose a bizarre paper thickness requirement for voter registration forms and this year he comes up with rules that are designed to derail voter registration drives. His intent and that of the other Republican leaders in the state is clear: they want to suppress voter turnout in a critical election year." |
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29 Oct 06 - 11:03 PM (#1871862) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy Acorn can fix it! GETTING OUT THE VOTE, DEMOCRAT STYLE"...One of the questionable groups aiding and abetting the Democrat push to sign up voters is the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. This group has been investigated in several states, among them Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania and Ohio. The latest report comes from St. Louis, Missouri, where, according to an article by Jim Kouri, Election Board officials say they've discovered at least 1,492 potentially fraudulent voter registration cards including three from dead people and one from a 16-year-old. Kouri concludes that the majority of those potentially fraudulent voter cards came from the left-wing get out the vote group ACORN. In Missouri, Brian Mellor, ACORN's election counsel, says workers he hires earn $8 an hour [less than Walmart] to register voters...." |
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30 Oct 06 - 12:02 AM (#1871882) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Azizi Alice, here's the link you posted: Ohio state Senator Files Amicus Brief In Case Against Oppresive Voter Registration Rules By Marc Dann, Ohio State Senator Press Release August 02, 2006 http://votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1620&Itemid=113 Best wishes, Azizi |
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30 Oct 06 - 12:12 AM (#1871886) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: katlaughing Oh yeah, those silly people at ACORN trying to bring a living wage and housing to low income people...why the nerve of them! |
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30 Oct 06 - 06:45 AM (#1872050) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Donuel Firth, When I voted in the MD primary I discovered that I had been UNREGISTERED to vote. I re registered and made a provisionary ballot. This may be a new trend for many or just another glitch in the system. |
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30 Oct 06 - 09:33 PM (#1872655) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: emjay In this state (Alaska) returns showed a greater than 100% voter turnout in some precincts. The State Democrats asked for the raw data from the state division of elections and were told that to release it would compromise the integrity of the vote. Dems took it to court and the court ordered the data to be released. Division of Elections stalled. Dems and Court pursued and when data was finally given to the Dems, it showed changes had been made in weeks between court order and release of material. At this point a computer expert is reviewing it to see what can be determined. If you can't win an election one way, there seem to be no end of other ways. NPR today had a program (Justice Talking) about felons losing the right to vote. Interesting material. It should be available on the NPR web site. |
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30 Oct 06 - 09:37 PM (#1872659) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Ebbie But emjay, we got the man out! Still makes me smile. |
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30 Oct 06 - 10:09 PM (#1872682) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: catspaw49 If it can hang like it is for another week, Ohio will fall over to the Democratic side. The home of "Taft Republicanism" is pretty well pissed off at the last Taft (another Bob) and his cronies AND his policies. Truthfully, Strickland is too conservative for my taste and I'd prefer someone else, but it looks pretty good for him at the moment. In the senate race, Congressman Brown is leading Senator DeWine by a LARGE margin and if at least some of it holds..............I heard today that DeWine still has 4 mil of personal campaign funds but the GOP National has pulled all financial support from his campaign, evidently to be thrown in down in Tennessee where they are desperate to beat Ford. Also, it appears that there is virtually no TV time available here to buy so DeWine will not be able to swamp the market with more of his bullshit. As strongly Republican asOhio has been over the past century plus, it isn't uncommon to send a Democrat to the Senate. Matter of fact, the most liberal Dem to be in the Senate in years was Howard Metzenbaum who we sent back for about 20 years total. Sherrod Brown has been a very progressive Congressman and I expect good things from him in the Senate......if he wins......and I think it's likely. He was one of the very few on either house to stand against the Iraq war and the Patriot act crap. I will be voting Tuesday but I feel that I am voting FOR someone for change. Spaw |
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31 Oct 06 - 08:08 PM (#1873455) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: dianavan GW didn't look so confident today, when it was announced that China had brought Korea back to the table to discuss their nuclear ambitions and proposed sanctions. U.S. threats just don't have the clout they once did. GW is looking like a big loser. Interesting to learn that China is better at international diplomacy than the U.S. Good for China. Helps the voters see how inept GW really is. |
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31 Oct 06 - 08:11 PM (#1873460) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: dianavan It also doesn't help GW that the U.S. vetoed the Kyoto Accord in light of new scientific evidence that global warning will have catastrophic effects in our lifetime. The only way GW can win this election is to rig the vote. If that happens, don't be surprised to see a new variety of freedom fighters. |
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31 Oct 06 - 08:28 PM (#1873475) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Bobert First of all, Old Guy's real grasp of American History 101 is like a D-.... He doesn't seem to understand that while it was the Dixiecrats who were the racists during Jim Crow that the "Southern Strategy", developed by the current day Republican Party took over where the Dixiecrats left off... I'm not sure where Old Guy was educated or even if he was... I took not only American History 101 and 102 but 2 semesters of History of the South at Virginia Commonwelath University (located in the capitol of the Confederate States of America, i.e. the C.S.A) from a very provincial and conservative professor (doctor Rogers) and he didn't even bother to gloss over what Old Guy seems to have missed in his studies.... Hmmmmmmm??? But as for election fraud??? Yeah, the Repubs control the elctions in many of the states where Dems are running a couple points ahead... A "couple points" won't cut it... Dems will have to win by 4 to 5 points to win these elesctions in states where Repubs control the state governemtns and given Diebold's history of promising victories to Repubs anywhere where Diebold is being used without a paper trail is bad news for Dems... Might have to win by 7 percent.... But the usaul dirty tricks will occur... Some folks will be told that if they vote they will arrested for outstanding parking tickets... Some will be told that Dems vote on Wednesday... You know, the usaul Lee Aywater juvinilistic dirt tricks... Hey, I'm not sayin' that the Dems are without fault here but let's get friggin' real... The Repubs have dirty tricks down to an art... I mean, just look at the number of slimy ads the Repubs are running compared to the Dems... The M.O. is that the Repub will make a number of slimy allogations against the Dem and then when the Dem finances an ad that calls the Repub a "liar" then the Repub attacks the Dem as runnin' a slimy campaign???? Yeah, this is the strategy... I am personally disappointed in Karl Rove... I really thought he had more up his sleeve??? Bobert |
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31 Oct 06 - 08:52 PM (#1873487) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy Uh, Bobert: From 1877 down to the 1970s, the Southern Democrats controlled every Southern state nearly all the time. |
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31 Oct 06 - 09:03 PM (#1873493) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy Oh Bobert: WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Members of the black leadership network Project 21 are demanding that the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) and Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) join with them in condemning remarks made by CBC member Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) in which he called President George W. Bush "our Bull Conner," referring to the 1960s segregationist icon. Bull Connor was a Democrat: Theophilus Eugene "Bull" Connor (July 11, 1897, Selma, Alabama – March 10, 1973) was a police official in the Southern U.S. state of Alabama during the American Civil Rights Movement and a staunch advocate of racial segregation. In 1960, Connor was elected Democratic National Committeeman for Alabama, soon after filing a lawsuit against the New York Times for $1.5 million, for what he said was insinuating that he had promoted racial hatred. Later dropping the amount to $400,000, the case would drag on for six years until Connor lost a $40,000 judgment on appeal. |
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31 Oct 06 - 09:10 PM (#1873496) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Peace As much as it is deplorable--taking away voting rights like that--the issue isn't not specifically racism, although that is probably how a case against the Republicans could be won. The real issue is that of democracy in the USA. Y'all kiss that g'bye and it won't matter a tinker's damn what colour, religion, sex, ethnicity you are. As was mentioned upthread, this kinda crap may breed new 'freedom' fighters. However, it will be very difficult to organize when you have no rights left. The time for that sort of organizing is NOW, while you can still use the i'net, telephone, mail system. IMO. |
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01 Nov 06 - 08:38 AM (#1873784) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Bobert Old Guy, Are you disputin' the fact that the postwar Southern Democrats morphed into the the Dixiecrats who since the 50's have have been swallowed up into by Republican Party??? Hmmmmm??? Maybe you'd like to share your sources here??? Please, no wingnut edititorialists or revisionists, but respected historians, thank you... Bobert |
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01 Nov 06 - 10:20 AM (#1873834) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Peace Politics and Public Service Dixiecrats 1948-Present President Franklin Roosevelt's electoral body in 1945 had included a diverse, in fact contradictory, set of elements — both conservatives and liberals, northern and southern Democrats and Republicans. By 1948, however, the civil rights issue revealed the real philosophical differences between northern and southern Democrats as never before. The move of Southern states from solidly Democrat to solidly Republican began to take place. In that environment, the Dixiecrats and the "Southern Strategy" was born. The rest is here. |
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01 Nov 06 - 11:41 AM (#1873888) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: GUEST,pattyClink The screaming issue "down heah" in ole Miss has ceased to be white/black, Repub/Dem. The problem of the day is the two parties are messing with local election results, each in their own way. We already had too many elections (at least one cycle a year), too many precincts, not enough pollwatchers, not enough challenges to suspicious results. Now we have all these machines that are programmed by strange technicians flying in from who knows where, who may very possibly be on a Republican payroll to adjust the results. Meanwhile, we also still have many many phantom voters from the graveyards. Something called "Voter ID" is desperately needed, but some Democratic 'leaders' insist asking a person to show ID is the same as a poll tax and would intimidate all the elderly black people. So instead you can go in there and claim you are whoever you want and they will let you vote, roaming from precinct to precinct with your cemetery list. I have personally witnessed one full-scale election theft which was prosecuted. I have also had my name mysteriously removed from the roll and had to file an 'affidavit ballot' which I have no idea whether it was counted. And I have voted for a 3rd party candidate and had my precinct total for that candidate come up 'zero'. The system ain't working, and this is in a not-in-play state. Heaven knows what goes on in Ohio and Florida where the stakes are really high. I'd like to throw the whole goofy 2-party primary-runoff-main event junk out the window and start over with town meetings or something. |
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01 Nov 06 - 06:39 PM (#1874248) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Bobert Thankee, brucie, for the link... Yeah, I think Old Guy been smokin' some of them punkins that his wife carries around the house and got his OldGuy thinkerator all confuzerated... But that ain't nuthin new in his case... Bobert |
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01 Nov 06 - 06:50 PM (#1874252) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy "postwar Southern Democrats morphed into the the Dixiecrats" Name some for us Bobert. Ask ol' Byrd from Wes 'Ginny what he morphed from and into. He was a Democrat KKKer and now he is just a Democrat that still uses the N word in public. 'Course a Republican would have to resign if they use the N word. George Allen is still being hounded for using it 32 years ago but, you know how the duoble standard works. |
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02 Nov 06 - 12:53 AM (#1874443) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy Yeah, I inhale punkins after they been cooked into pies. They are powerful good too. I'll bet that if you made a pie with 'maters the same way it would be good, I have heard of 'mater ice cream and I have seen 'mater preserves. |
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02 Nov 06 - 08:03 PM (#1875084) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Bobert Yo, Oldster... Glad to hear that, ulike Slick Willie, you do inhale... That's a plus... Like why mess with stuff if you're gonna waste it??? Ahhhh, as for ther Dixiecrats, Google up "The Bryd Machine" for starters... No, not Robert Byrd but one of the "Tom, Dick and Harry" Bryds... Or Huey Long... Plenty of good 'ol boy racist Dems back 50 or more years ago... As fir punkin' pies... We got some seed for some greenish blue punkins and we got about 9 of them to grow to 10-15 pounds and gave a lot of 'um away but have cooked up the first one into pies and they is great... Bobert |
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02 Nov 06 - 09:19 PM (#1875104) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: robomatic ebbie: if we get Sarah, you'll wish we still had the Murk. |
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03 Nov 06 - 12:53 AM (#1875169) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Ebbie Isn't THAT the truth, robo. It's really scary to think that we might get her- someone who is all set to buy into the national disgrace. I'm not worried about Juneau, actually- Sarah Palin, it appears, has few supporters down here. But Juneau has such small numbers compared with Anchorage and Fairbanks- not to mention the Valley... I DID like the Voice of the Times editorial though- you suppose that will influence anyone's vote? |
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03 Nov 06 - 07:11 PM (#1875710) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: GUEST,sorefingers Here folks are not mad at any party, just sick of the same old boring insults and rubbish so anybody else that is out there is going to win. Eg Kinky for Governor. I think most states are the same when you get right down to it. People are tired of the enless hateful TV ads and the like. |
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04 Nov 06 - 01:20 AM (#1875847) Subject: RE: BS: Democratic voters blocked, GW confident From: Old Guy Green blue punkin pies just don't sound right Bobert. I'd rather have orange ones. To tired to argue about politicks tonigt. I just painted the interior of a 2300 sq ft warehouse today single handed, office, store room and all. |