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02 Nov 06 - 08:43 AM (#1874610) Subject: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Liz the Squeak Is there going to be one? Is anyone organising one if there is? Enquiring minds want to know.... LTS |
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03 Nov 06 - 03:49 AM (#1875208) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum Skipjack K8, May 28, 2006: Just a brief update. I have sown the seed for our next Eurogathering with my friends in Cassano D'Adda, east of Milan, and the guarded response wasn't negative, so hopefully it'll be a runner. If it runs, Bergamo Airport is the closest, or Venice if you are coming on the Orient Express. |
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03 Nov 06 - 06:19 AM (#1875253) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Scrump I haven't seen too many folkies on the Orient Express (Ooerr! isn't that dangerous? They have murders on there, don't they?) :-) |
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03 Nov 06 - 07:39 AM (#1875279) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Skipjack K8 How apposite that you raise the matter, Betty, as only yesterday I learned that our potential hostess is happily up the duff, and as the bairn is due in late April, probably the last thing she will want in early May is a farmyard full of the greatest unwashed playing homemade music and singing songs about church fires. I was going to send a round robin PM to the exclsuive club of previous organisers, but it is better to open up the discussion to all potential organisers and attendees now. Any ideas? |
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03 Nov 06 - 01:04 PM (#1875483) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick That's a shame. I was looking forward to a trip on the Orient Express. One of the suggestions, from Susanne, for a future venue was Kiel. How about there for 2007? I hope we find somewhere as I've got my weekend pass organised. DC |
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04 Nov 06 - 06:19 AM (#1875942) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Might manage something Scottish if that falls through, but not at too short a notice! Giok |
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04 Nov 06 - 06:45 AM (#1875955) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick Scotland sounds good. Would I need a special visa or would my ordinary UK passport get me past Hadrian's Wall? Would we have to wear kilts? ?;-) DC |
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04 Nov 06 - 03:14 PM (#1876240) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: skarpi I thought about it ,here in Iceland under the glacier but I think not many people would come . all the best Skarpi Iceland |
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05 Nov 06 - 08:00 AM (#1876621) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Noreen Hey Skarpi- Stewart and I would definitely come if you hosted a gathering in Iceland!! Would love to have the chance to visit. Stewart is looking forward to the Schnapps.... |
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05 Nov 06 - 04:13 PM (#1876945) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wolfgang Schnapps? Black death is the name, isn't it? I'd love to see Iceland once more, but for a weekend???? Wolfgang |
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05 Nov 06 - 04:41 PM (#1876965) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Liz the Squeak Drink the Brennevin and you'll be there for more than a weekend - you can't get new kidneys that quickly! LTS |
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05 Nov 06 - 08:16 PM (#1877094) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Would that be the weekend of May 4 - 6? In that case, I could offer you a visit to a Dick Gaughan gig only half an hour away on the Friday night, plus I could try to have a local 'Irish Night' scheduled for Saturday. (That's one of our regular big sessions of local folk musicians - whether of the Irish, Scottish or Scandinavian persuasion ... - who'd be delighted to have a crowd of musically skilled foreign guests). The biggest problem would be accommodation because my flat won't take more than half a dozen, and those must not be allergic to cats! On the other hand, I wouldn't mind that much if 2007 took place in Scotland, even though that would mean missing DG over here! Should we start a new thread for a proper vote? |
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06 Nov 06 - 01:23 PM (#1877549) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Geordie-Peorgie Iceland? Nivvor been burrit sounds canny!! Scotland's canny an' aall mind. Hopefully if me 'windfaall' is still in the bank we'll be gannin wherever it is. Italy, Scotland, Bahamas, Germany, even Belgium! Aah divvent care. |
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09 Nov 06 - 11:51 AM (#1880273) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wolfgang It's a difficult choice but I'd prefer Dick Gaughan to Scotland for I've seen Scotland four times now and Dick Gaughan never yet and Scotland always stays at the same place ready to be visited. Wolfgang |
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09 Nov 06 - 08:10 PM (#1880734) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Come on, you've got a fortnight to decide - I'm going away on holiday tomorrow and won't be near the internet too often for the next two weeks. People could fly Ryanair into Luebeck (who call it Hamburg, but it's anything but ...), which is a train ride away from Kiel - just under an hour, I believe, and very scenic, in a flat sort of way. |
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14 Nov 06 - 02:41 AM (#1885302) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick What do you think then folks? Either Kiel or Scotland is OK with me - so long as we go somewhere! DC |
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14 Nov 06 - 02:53 AM (#1885304) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Liz the Squeak SOMEONE MAKE A DECISION PLEASE!!!!! I'd love to come but need to know where so I can start saving! I don't care where, I've never been to either place! LTS |
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14 Nov 06 - 12:52 PM (#1885570) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick Alright then. I vote for Kiel DC |
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14 Nov 06 - 12:56 PM (#1885573) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Keil's OK with me too |
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14 Nov 06 - 01:57 PM (#1885615) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Liz the Squeak Where is Kiel and should I pack my thermal vests? LTS |
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14 Nov 06 - 02:24 PM (#1885628) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Northern Germany mate, it's on the Baltic, and it probably will be Baltic weather wise in the springtime. Giok |
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14 Nov 06 - 02:35 PM (#1885638) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: alanabit I fancy Kiel, and if I get to meet some of you, I fancy it very much. It can be a bit windy up there, but I am sure there will be bolt holes for Mudcatters to meet, drink and sing. It is probably easier for many UK Mudcatters to reach than some areas of Scotland!(No offence to Scotland - the country and the inhabitants are wonderful). |
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14 Nov 06 - 05:12 PM (#1885768) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Pistachio Scotland would suit me - it's where I'm from.. tho I don't live there anymore! Still got family scattered centrally! Kiel would be do-able - I used to live in Germany too - so I'll put this on tracer, get out the diary and check the route via North Sea Ferries ... if the old motorhome survives the winter....I could bring an 'ull contingent! Might be better to take a train tho' the van it a bit slow. Whatever, it's a great thought and something to look forward to! H. |
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14 Nov 06 - 05:24 PM (#1885782) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Liz the Squeak Motorhome in the Baltics? Are you some kind of nut?? LTS |
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14 Nov 06 - 05:58 PM (#1885819) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: skarpi Sorry I am out , Scotland ok but Germany no-way . All thebest skarpiIceland. |
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14 Nov 06 - 06:00 PM (#1885820) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Emma B Scotland!..............please. I've never been able to make one yet |
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14 Nov 06 - 06:02 PM (#1885824) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: skarpi I vote for Scotland All thebest Skarpi Iceland. |
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14 Nov 06 - 06:33 PM (#1885864) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Forsh Clennell Hall, in the beautiful Northumberland National Park, Fine 'Shepheard Walks', National Cycle Route, Luxury Hotel or free camping, alles welkommen! Volk Musik fur dich, pour vous, :) sorry, couldn't resist plugging it.. it's been a while. Clennell Folk Fest Site |
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15 Nov 06 - 03:56 PM (#1886108) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Skipjack K8 Hmmm, I'd enjoy both, can we do Kiel in 2007 and Scotland in 2008? |
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15 Nov 06 - 04:02 PM (#1886111) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Whatever |
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15 Nov 06 - 04:16 PM (#1886124) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Ernest I like Scotland but Kiel is closer.... so I would prefer Kiel. Best Ernest |
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16 Nov 06 - 11:45 AM (#1886367) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: stallion Has anyone considered Featherstone Castle in the North East (can't remember exactly where it is), it has loads of dorms and a couple of big function rooms and a kitchen to feed an army |
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16 Nov 06 - 12:00 PM (#1886380) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Scrump Kiel? Good chance to sing a few canal songs there... ... but Scotland has the whisky in its favour ;-) Now where did I put my kilt...? (sings) Hark when the night is falling, Hear! hear the pipes are calling, Loudly and proudly calling, Down thro' the glen... (fade) |
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17 Nov 06 - 09:06 AM (#1886840) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum Kiel, please - my only chance to participate this year is: not abroad! |
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17 Nov 06 - 10:08 AM (#1886904) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: MudGuard my only chance to participate this year is: not abroad! You are a bit late if you still want to attend this year as this year's EuroGathering was months ago ... ;-) What about next year, Wilfried? |
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17 Nov 06 - 10:46 AM (#1886945) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum this year = deictic to the year in question (see above) : 2007 Nice to hear from you. W. |
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17 Nov 06 - 11:42 AM (#1886985) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Skipjack K8 Wilfried, you are the sort of chap who would have frustrated Dr Johnson and caused a complete reprint of his English dictionary. Not for the first time, I salute your scholastic knowledge of English. ps. I am in your fair country as I gaze myopically into this blasted PDA machine, at a lard trade fair in Hannover Messe. |
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20 Nov 06 - 10:09 AM (#1888935) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST wahts a pda machine? |
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20 Nov 06 - 10:21 AM (#1888946) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Too technical for you j0hn! |
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20 Nov 06 - 10:25 AM (#1888948) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST oh. anyway=how you know is me? i forgot to write me name. |
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20 Nov 06 - 10:42 AM (#1888954) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie waht! |
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20 Nov 06 - 12:50 PM (#1889040) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST scotland/kiel......humph both good choices |
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21 Nov 06 - 10:22 AM (#1889899) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST,Noreen I vote we all agree on Kiel 2007 to give the lovely Susanne a nice surprise when she checks in on her return from holiday! *evil grin* |
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25 Nov 06 - 12:48 PM (#1893297) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Letty As I have no idea where I'll be living then, I don't mind where! Can't even promise to be there, sadly. Great to see it will probably take place again though! Muenster - Brussels - Groningen - Hull - Cork - ? |
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25 Nov 06 - 02:38 PM (#1893380) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: MudGuard Small correction, Letty: Muenster - Brussels - Groningen - Hull - Niort - Cork - ? Letty, it would be great if you could make it (and/or Portaferry). |
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25 Nov 06 - 02:52 PM (#1893388) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Letty oops, sorry! Only one I haven't been to... Will try, Andy, will try. |
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25 Nov 06 - 08:54 PM (#1893621) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Right, I'm back. Seems to me the Mudcat (or the relevant section of it) is still undecided. So who would organise Euro 2007 in Scotland? Or in the other places that have been suggested? I'd be prepared to do it in Kiel. Yes, I meant it when I suggested it, Noreen - and I'd love to see you over here next year, along with anybody else willing to come. skarpi really has no excuse as Germany can't be that much farther from Iceland than Scotland ... Maybe Andy can start on his usual task as headhunter soon. So far, I've counted Geordie-Porgie, Wolfgang, Doug, Liz, Giok, alanabit, Pistachio, Greg(?), Ernest, Scrump(?), Wilfried, Andy (presumably, to keep up his unbroken record), Guest(?), Noreen, Letty (hopefully). Against (quite unreasonably, of course): skarpi, Emma B. Trying to throw spanners in the works (even more unreasonably, of course): Forsh, Stallion Some additional info: Liz, it's hard to tell in advance, but from my experience the necessity of thermal vests in May is highly unlikely. Motorhomes are becoming unsettlingly frequent on local roads from the Easter holidays right through to September, and I've never yet heard of people using them freezing to death. As far as I know they come with central heating ... Scrump may not realise it, but whisky is actually cheaper in Germany than in Scotland, due to the difference in duties on spirits. And we now have some very discerning pub landlords where whisky is concerned. Any suggestions as to what should be ordered beforehand? (I'd prefer to save my personal stock of Macallan's, Bowmore and Edradour for the winter.) For those of you not bringing motorhomes, tents etc., Kiel is a city of 330,000, with a youth hostel, a backpackers' hostel, a good range of hotels and quite a few guest houses to suit all your tastes and purses, I think. Transport may present some problems if you all insist on flying or 'training' in ... :-), but I'm sure we'll come up with a solution. Finally: Where are the others? Our regulars in particular? Eric? Richard? Looking forward to hearing from you! |
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26 Nov 06 - 06:19 AM (#1893802) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fibula Mattock Count me in, v. likely. Fibs xx |
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26 Nov 06 - 06:25 AM (#1893807) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie I would like to go too. Unfortunately I will be in one of those distressing motor homes ¦¬] Giok |
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26 Nov 06 - 07:21 AM (#1893833) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: skarpi well there it goes , far thee well my dearest. have a good time :>) all the best Skarpi Iceland. |
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26 Nov 06 - 07:42 AM (#1893843) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fibula Mattock I would like Giok to go too! And everyone else. Wish you could be there Skarpi. |
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26 Nov 06 - 07:52 AM (#1893851) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: skarpi that coult be fib , there are poeple daring me to come ehe |
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27 Nov 06 - 08:40 PM (#1894166) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Asked them tonight - the house seems to be free on Sat 5 May for a joint session with the local talent, with or without audience. As nobody else has been forthcoming, can I take it as read that the 2007 Eurogathering will take place in Kiel? I'll have to tell them soon, or the house will be booked for something else. Kiel being on the Baltic, I'd suggest a trip across the water on Saturday or Sunday afternoon. A sighteeing tour through the city may not be all that rewarding, but I'll think about it. Welcome on board, Fibs - glad there are no faraway conferences in the way. And do go on persuading skarpi there is a way if he really wants to come. |
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28 Nov 06 - 12:59 AM (#1894276) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: alanabit It has been a few years since I ventured that far north. What do you drink up there, Holstein Pils, Flens? Keep me posted. It sounds like it's going to be a good craic. |
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28 Nov 06 - 02:57 AM (#1894298) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum The more you go up North the more schnapps they drink I'm told. |
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28 Nov 06 - 03:21 AM (#1894308) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST,Skarpi from Work. Susanne, I am gonna put this on my programme for next year its gonna be the first weekend in May ? or later ? please let me know soon about the days. All the best Skarpi Iceland. |
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29 Nov 06 - 03:37 AM (#1895311) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST,Eric the Viking-silent for a while ! Hello all Much has passed since I last posted. Our move to the Orkney Islands has gone well, though I am in limbo betwixt Cleckheaton (for school)) and Selby (for lodgings). I can't wait until 23rd December when my family and I are re-united on South Ronaldsay and there I shall stay. This may well prove to be the site of a eurogathering for the future. I should like to attend the next gathering as I have missed the last two ! I will need to make travel plans as getting off the islands can prove expensive, though I will have lots of time for travel since I shall not be in regular work. I shall run this idea past Mrs Viking who is at this moment is talking to me via the telephone. I still have to earn a crust and must return to beating children at school. I shall look back to gain more information as to where the location is. Tata for now |
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29 Nov 06 - 04:58 AM (#1895350) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wolfgang Eric, South Ronaldsey is too easy to travel to for a weekend, why not Fair Isle a bit further North? Orkney is one of the places I shall revisit as soon as I shall be a pensioneer. I've even been on South Ronaldsey for as long as the ship stopped there. Wolfgang |
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29 Nov 06 - 06:25 AM (#1895406) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: GUEST,Noreen Eric, you don't do things by halves! Looking forward to the South Ronaldsay Gathering 2008... |
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29 Nov 06 - 04:17 PM (#1895919) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Henrik W. If it's Kiel, I might just take the car southwards for that. DG would be a great plus. |
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30 Nov 06 - 06:50 AM (#1896372) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Liz the Squeak So what is the final decision??? Please, just tell me When: Where: How Much: and Why not: LTS |
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30 Nov 06 - 10:18 AM (#1896508) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Skipjack K8 Let's go for Suzanne's generous offer and go for Kiel. I am good friends with a trombonist from Lauenburg (who is known to Barrovian sessioneers), and he'd like to come too. |
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30 Nov 06 - 11:13 AM (#1896539) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum motion seconded |
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30 Nov 06 - 11:36 AM (#1896562) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie OK, and maybe Scotland next year! G. |
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30 Nov 06 - 01:01 PM (#1896637) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: alanabit Motion thirded! |
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30 Nov 06 - 02:03 PM (#1896693) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Ernest Motion forthed (or is it firthd of forthd, Giok?) |
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30 Nov 06 - 02:15 PM (#1896705) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Forced, like that pun mate. Giok |
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30 Nov 06 - 03:00 PM (#1896755) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Geordie-Peorgie Is that def'nit' then??? Kiel?? Aah just hope aah've got some dosh left by then! Mrs P and I are celebratin' 17 happy years next April 6th (We've been married 25 but 17 of them wez really happy!!!) so a trip abroad seems a good idea. Aah asked hor what she'd like for Christmas and she said she'd like a coat made from real animal skin - Keep it quiet but aah've bought hor a donkey jacket! What an aad romantic eh??? |
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30 Nov 06 - 04:01 PM (#1896830) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Ernest You are surely a romantic, Georgie... others would have bought ratskins... ;0) |
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02 Dec 06 - 04:46 AM (#1898108) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Kiel it will be, then, on the weekend 4 - 6 May. I'll try and make the programme live up to past Eurogatherings. What we've got so far: Fri 4 May - Dick Gaughan concert at Bad Segeberg for all who are interested. Need to organise transport because it's a good half hour from Kiel. Sat 5 May - day: boat trip across Kiel Firth from Kiel to Laboe and back, again for all who'd like to come (one way takes about an hour, we could have lunch at Laboe and also go to see the submarine memorial) evening: session at Hof Akkerboom in Kiel with local musicians Sun 6 May - we'll see. Next: gather addresses for accommodation so that people can book. Directions: Kiel is on (the end of) a motorway, the A215 branching off the A7. It is served by intercity trains, and - as I've said - the nearest airports are Hamburg-Fuhlsbuettel and Luebeck, which is used by Ryanair. There is a rail link between Luebeck and Kiel (again, about an hour). Contact me outside the Mudcat via skw at worldmusic dot de or phone me at 0431 / 687332. More in good time. I'm looking forward to this! |
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02 Dec 06 - 05:37 AM (#1898141) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick Yippee!! ?:-) |
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02 Dec 06 - 10:09 AM (#1898274) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit I could manage Kiel. Chas |
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02 Dec 06 - 05:15 PM (#1898590) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) I just realised my last post is rather misleadingly worded. What I meant was "If you need to contact me, please use ..." You don't have to make individual personal applications in order to be allowed to attend! :-) And I forgot to mention that I'll ask the people at Hof Akkerboom whether we'll be allowed to put up tents in their appleyard, and that there is more than enough room for motorhomes outside my house. |
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02 Dec 06 - 05:26 PM (#1898603) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Sounding better and better G. |
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03 Dec 06 - 12:43 PM (#1898913) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Letty Good on you Susanne! Hope to be there, but things are up in the air as I'm submitting (submission fee of 500 euros...), defending and applying around that time. |
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04 Dec 06 - 04:52 AM (#1899408) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum muchas gracias |
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04 Dec 06 - 05:45 PM (#1900046) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Letty, whatever it is you are submitting (your thesis, I suppose), our collective good wishes are bound to be supporting you! All the rest - I haven't dug out addresses for accommodation yet, and I'll be out every night till Friday, so please bear with me till the weekend ... |
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05 Dec 06 - 11:49 AM (#1900660) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit OK so what's the format? Sessions, sing arounds? performance? Will there be a ceilidh? I'd like a ceilidh. Chas |
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05 Dec 06 - 11:55 AM (#1900665) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Didn't we mention the Roman Orgy? G. |
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05 Dec 06 - 12:07 PM (#1900680) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Skipjack K8 No, John, just the cock-fighting |
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05 Dec 06 - 12:12 PM (#1900690) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie AND the bare baiting G! Giok |
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05 Dec 06 - 09:30 PM (#1901225) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Shut up, you! You're not going to turn this into Loughstock! :-) The format is more or less up to you, though we don't have a 'ceilidh' tradition. Folk dancing and sessions tend to be quite separate activities over here, though if anyone wants to teach the local talent the Dashing White Sergeant I suppose no one would protest. Also, the sessions tend to lean towards the instrumental, though this is changing. Trouble is, the acoustics of the room don't lend themselves to singing, and we have few people with strong enough voices to overcome this. Anyway, we'll see. I for one wouldn't mind a bit more singing, and I can always remember lyrics best when others are singing along ... For all those eager to start, go to www.kiel.de and click on 'Touristik' on the left. This gives you a little idea of what the area is like, and there are links to hotels, the youth hostel etc. for those who don't bring their own accommodation. If any questions arise, don't hesitate to email me and ask them! |
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06 Dec 06 - 04:06 AM (#1901355) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Noreen www.kiel.de |
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06 Dec 06 - 05:36 AM (#1901382) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit I'll sing. I can teach some English Country Dances too. Chas |
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06 Dec 06 - 08:22 AM (#1901456) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: bfdk I'd like to second Fidjit's wish for a ceilidh. I know that Skip is at present working his fingers to the bone learning a Danish tune called "Baglæns Kontrasejre". I happen to know the steps for that 8-some, so would be able to instruct, if a sufficient number of people were interested :-) Best wishes, Bente |
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06 Dec 06 - 06:12 PM (#1901918) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Thanks for the link, Noreen. I clean forgot. Danish would be great. We have several musicians and dancers interested in Danish and Swedish music, also some feeling at home on the Balkans. Let your ideas flow so that I can give my friends over here an idea of what to expect. Might we split it up? Reserve the Saturday for the ceilidh - with songs, of course, but mainly dancing - and have a session on the Sunday afternoon? (Just in case, may I remind the British contingent of the fact that Germany has no May Day Bank Holiday, and most of the Germans have to be back at work on the Monday.) Anyway, Bente, can I count you in? Seeing our customary counter seems to have left us ... ANDY, WHERE ARE YOU! Oh, and shall we have a raffle? Or just a whip round? If the former, please think of suitable prizes to bring for it (but only if that doesn't make travelling too inconvenient). Shaping up nicely, it seems! |
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06 Dec 06 - 07:07 PM (#1901984) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit Ceilidh music no problem. I've loads of cds with the music. Only need a cd player. Of course it would be nice to make our own music too. So start practicing your 32, 48 and 64 bar jigs and reels. Plus a waltz or two. Chas |
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07 Dec 06 - 02:33 AM (#1902186) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Ernest Can we have a saturday session for the non-dancers please? And Bente: are you going to bring Milloup along? I always like to meet nice dachshunds... Best Ernest |
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07 Dec 06 - 10:25 AM (#1902436) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wolfgang With Danish Mudcatters coming we might have a chance to have the Eurogathering 2009 (Scotland: 2008) somewhere in Denmark? Skarpi, sorry, you have offered Iceland before Kiel, Scotland etc., but it is just very far away for a weekend. Wolfgang (who will be coming to Kiel) |
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07 Dec 06 - 12:26 PM (#1902534) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Llanfair Oh crikey, I've missed such a lot!! Eric in Orkney!! Brilliant!! Noreen, who is Stewart?, Liz, how's Little Bit?, Skip, still going strong, as is Andy!! It's so nice to see everyone planning yet another gathering. I would love to come, but it depends on the state of the aged parents. They need a lot of care, now. I'll keep an eye on the state of play, Cheers, Bron. |
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07 Dec 06 - 05:43 PM (#1902809) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Welcome back, Bron! Would be great if you could make it, but your parents come first, of course. Chas, I don't think canned noise was the idea, even for the ceilidh - but that's for the musicians to say, and I'm not ... |
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07 Dec 06 - 05:44 PM (#1902813) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie No definitely no canned music, live or not at all surely! G. |
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08 Dec 06 - 02:34 AM (#1903177) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum No cans, please. Don't we have instruments and voices enough? |
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08 Dec 06 - 04:55 AM (#1903246) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: bfdk Hey, I'm just *one* Dane, as far as I know.. But, yes, if nothing happens to prevent it, I'd say you can count me in :-) Ernest, I'd like to bring Milloup, but I rather think I won't, if his usual minders can take him in for the weekend. He has a way of getting under your feet, and the combination of a dachshund who thinks the world revolves around him and lots of dancing feet is probably not such a good one.. Dancewise, don't forget the odd polka, hopsa and Schottische.. :-) Best wishes, Bente |
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08 Dec 06 - 11:52 AM (#1903525) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Ernest I`d definitely prefer a dachshound to a dance, bente ;0) And live music to cans - but I would allow cookie tin banjos, washtub basses etc. Best wishes Ernest |
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08 Dec 06 - 03:20 PM (#1903742) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit Think we have a live set in the pipeline. let you know later. Chas |
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10 Dec 06 - 08:04 PM (#1905841) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) Attendance statistics so far - 1 certain (me!), 14 probable, 7 maybe (one of which is Skarpi - I never give up). No bad for a start. The room is booked for the Saturday night. We just need to work out what to do with it. I've spoken to some of the dance people, and they think a ceilidh on Saturday night would gather a good crowd. However, they suggest some thorough planning because apparently it isn't that easy playing along with somebody else's dance music (they play Scandinavian and French music mainly). I think we should leave this to be cleared up between the musicians nearer the date. I also booked for the Sunday afternoon, for a session with any of the Kiel musicians who feel like coming along. Again, details to be worked out later on. Saturday lunchtime: My first idea was crossing the water to a place called Laboe by ferry (about an hour either way). I've just learned that there would be a chance of travelling virtually the same route, though a bit further out into the Baltic, and back to Kiel, between 10.30 am to 1 pm, on an old paddle steamer and in the company of a magnificent buffet (I know, I've done it before), for 37.50 euros. That's certainly more than we'd have to spend on the Laboe trip, but would anybody be interested? We'd have to book soon because those trips are very popular. And would anybody be interested in a little city tour around Sunday lunchtime, including a visit up the Town Hall steeple? I'd have to find out whether that's possible on a Sunday. |
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11 Dec 06 - 02:32 AM (#1906029) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick |
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11 Dec 06 - 02:34 AM (#1906030) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Doug Chadwick Oops!! Hit the wrong button! I would be interested in the paddle steamer trip as long as there were enough others to make a decent sized party. I'd be interested in going up the town hall steeple even if no one else was. DC |
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11 Dec 06 - 02:37 AM (#1906032) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Skipjack K8 Sounds excellent, Susanne. I'm up for the paddle steamer trip, or defaulting to the ferry plan if not enough takers, and the spire climb! Well done you. |
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11 Dec 06 - 03:03 AM (#1906038) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Wilfried Schaum let's paddle, but with the steamer |
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11 Dec 06 - 03:04 AM (#1906040) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: John MacKenzie Or aspire to a spire! G |
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11 Dec 06 - 08:24 AM (#1906228) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit Can we have a session on the paddle steamer ?? Or at least an SAR ? Regarding the Ceilidh. Skipjack K8 and I have arranged some easy English Country Dances with LIVE music! I get to practice my calling. Hows That! LBW. LBW? Yeah, "Let'em Bloody Wait" Chas |
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17 Dec 06 - 02:56 PM (#1911965) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Fidjit Seems there will definatly be dancing to live music. All easy and ejoyable stuff. Chas |
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17 Dec 06 - 04:51 PM (#1912062) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering? From: Susanne (skw) And could one of the JoeClones (or the original) please delete the question mark in the thread title? |
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18 Dec 06 - 01:46 AM (#1912357) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: skarpi Okei Susanne please PM all info dates , cost and ect. I am trying to find time to do this , the proplem is my work is sending me to an training program somwhere in Eroupe ( IKEA ) so I dont know where or when ? I know that in February . I ll be in Portaferry I would also like to be in Kiel :>) to play some Icelandic music. All the best Skarpi Iceland. |
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19 Dec 06 - 04:39 PM (#1914056) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) skarpi, glad to see you're back online! Or did you escape the communications cut after the broken undersea cable reported in our papers? Anyway, there is an IKEA store right round the corner from me - get them to send you there, and make it the right weekend. :-) As to cost, you'll have to find out the cost of flights yourself, I'm not very good at this. The only time I've flown was to Hull and back for the 2004 (?) Eurogathering, and I relied heavily on Wolfgang's superior knowledge. train or bus fares over here are not exactly cheap, but affordable, and maybe a lift can be organised for you. Accommodation can be anything from the floor of my house or a tent (free), a backpackers' hostel, the local youth hostel (reasonable) or b&b (affordable) to hotels of several categories. What do you think is most in your line? Send me a PM and I'll try and check it out for you over Christmas. I'll put the results on the Mudcat for everybody's use in good time. |
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08 Jan 07 - 05:11 PM (#1930652) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Happy new year to you all! Well, there hasn't exactly been a rush for info ... Does anyone need help with accommodation? I now have a list of hotels, b&b's, hostels and camping in the area. Post here or send me a PM or an eMail (skw at worldmusic dot de). |
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09 Jan 07 - 01:42 AM (#1931110) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Wilfried Schaum A place to roll out my mat and sleepingbag would be fine. Can't await it Wilfried |
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09 Jan 07 - 02:55 AM (#1931125) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Doug Chadwick I'm not really bothered about what level of accommodation I have, so long as it's close to the action – preferably within walking distance. I have a tent but could make do with a corner of someone's floor. I don't mind paying for a B&B or hotel but I don't want to be stuck in remote luxury if everyone else is making music into the early hours. Susanne, could you please PM me some details of campsites and B&B's with some idea of their locations relative to the proposed music venues? DC |
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09 Jan 07 - 05:35 PM (#1931766) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: GUEST,Fidjit And somewhere to park the car so's I can sleep in it?? Free! Chas |
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11 Jan 07 - 05:29 PM (#1933663) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) As I said above, there is enough parking space round my house for all of you. There may even be room for Doug's tent somewhere. My offer of help was meant precisely to help you find places not too far away. As Kiel is a popular holiday destination (particularly for people who aren't confined to school holidays any more) the cheaper rooms may fill up quickly. Anyway, one space in my flat is reserved for Andy. Though he hasn't said so, I count him in as a certainty. Wilfried, if you agree to sleep on the floor, not spit on the same, and not molest the cat you're welcome. There'd be room (just) for a couple more, and if the weather is warm another two or three could sleep on the big balcony. Other than that, a good hotel and a b&b can be found on the way to the venue. No official campsites near, but we'll find a way if necessary. The backpackers' hostel is not too far away from the venue either, and I think there is a car park for mobile homes somewhere near. Something else: Some of you have indicated interest in the cruise with buffet lunch. I'd have to book that fairly soon as it is much in demand. However, it costs 35 Euros, and some others may think twice about that. I suggest we take the comparatively cheap boat trip across the firth and find a place to eat there that may suit everybody's purse. I wouldn't like the group to split up because of money. Any comments? |
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11 Jan 07 - 06:23 PM (#1933725) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Doug Chadwick Susanne, Can I book the tent space please? I agree that the group should be kept together. A boat trip of any sort sounds fun, so you can count me in for whichever we choose. DC |
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13 Jan 07 - 10:12 PM (#1935824) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Don't know exactly where yet, but I'm sure we'll find a space for your tent, Doug! If nowhere else, in Hof Akkerboom's appleyard, within staggering distance of our venue (as one folksinger of my acquaintance used to say). And a boat trip of some kind is a must around here. |
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14 Jan 07 - 05:54 AM (#1936036) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: GUEST,Fidjit What do we know about Kiel? Well in Erskine Childers, "Riddle if the Sands", the Dulcibella got a tow through the Kiel Canal by a tug. The Dulcebella (or rather the Aasgaard) is a Colin Archer boat built in Norway. Dulcebella/Aasgaard was used by Childers for gun running from Belgium to Howth. Childers was shot by firing squad on November 2nd.1922. The Dulcebella/Aasgaard is now in prison! Not really. The prison is in Dublin and has been turned into a museum. About Kiel? Not enough obviously. Chas |
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14 Jan 07 - 06:54 AM (#1936058) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: GUEST,Fidjit Slight correction to last post. Before any other sailing freaks get on to me. The Dulcibella was of course a converted lifeboat. The Asgard (Åsgård, in Norwegian) A Colin Archer. Was a wedding present by his future father-in-law to Erskine and Molly Childers. Chas |
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14 Jan 07 - 06:23 PM (#1936635) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Chas, at least you know Kiel is on the Kiel Canal (locally called the Nord-Ostsee-Kanal, or North Sea-Baltic-Canal)= water. It's also on the Baltic via Kiel Firth = more water. It has an attractive venue (though not exclusively folk) in Hof Akkerboom. And, most important of all: It has me as a citizen. What else do you need to know? :-)) If there is anything else you could try asking, or try the link I gave above: Kiel General question: Would anyone like a guided tour of the city? |
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15 Jan 07 - 03:15 AM (#1936974) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Wilfried Schaum The Kiel Canal was formerly called Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal. In this times the Infantry Regiment Nr 85 was stationed in Kiel. Since then all Army soldiers are called 85ers by the Navy (even today!). Every year ther is a great international navy meeting called the Kiel Week. Oh, and Kiel has a University. |
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16 Jan 07 - 06:16 AM (#1938039) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: GUEST,Fidjit Still with computer trouble. What do we know about Kiel? There are ferries to Oslo, Norway And Gothenburg, Sweden. The one I'll be on. And other places too I'm sure. Chas |
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16 Jan 07 - 05:20 PM (#1938743) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Kiel Week is not a navy meeting but mainly a sailing event. Nowadays, however, it has taken on the character of a fun fair with an awful lot awfully lound (and sometimes awful) music. Still, it's something not to be missed if you're a sailing enthusiast or just like having a good time. Unfortunately, it starts about a month after the Eurogathering. And beside the university, we have a technical college and an art college, 52 schools, two public art galleries and three museums that I can think of right now. And the countryside roundabout is beautiful. However, nothing beats the view of the water. Fidjit, what do you mean - you'll be on the Gothenburg ferry? You're supposed to be in Kiel! |
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17 Jan 07 - 05:31 AM (#1939189) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: GUEST,Fidjit Ferry goes both way Susan. I'll be on both! Chas |
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20 Feb 07 - 03:55 PM (#1974079) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: MudGuard Susanne, it looks like I can make it. |
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20 Feb 07 - 08:03 PM (#1974376) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Hooray, Andy! Things have been quiet - how are you all doing for accommodation? For transport? Any other ideas to contribute? The venue has been pressing me for a more detailed description of our virtual gathering, so I'll have to get down to it next weekend. I'll let you know what I've come up with. |
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21 Feb 07 - 09:54 AM (#1974904) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Fidjit Just to get you all ready for May read this. Subject: Language lesson. The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English". In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing public enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, public akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expected to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will encourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the language is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer, people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords containing "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yeer, v evil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas. Chas |
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21 Feb 07 - 06:20 PM (#1975361) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Chas, I gazer yu ar expekting publik akseptanse? |
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22 Feb 07 - 04:00 PM (#1976308) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Fidjit Just hope they let me into the country now after that. Chas |
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24 Feb 07 - 04:22 AM (#1977720) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Fidjit |
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24 Feb 07 - 07:48 PM (#1978451) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Susanne (skw) Nae bother, Chas - we're no' racist ... |
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25 Feb 07 - 05:11 AM (#1978649) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: MudGuard train is booked now, so I will be there (unless I get stricken by lightning or a meteorite hits me on the head) |
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25 Feb 07 - 05:13 AM (#1978650) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: John MacKenzie Ente Andy |
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25 Feb 07 - 07:04 AM (#1978702) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: MudGuard Giok, what do you want to tell me? This is not a false report (called "Ente" in German). Nor are German trains comparable with a Citroen 2CV (called "Ente" in German). And I also don't see any duck (called "Ente" in German) involved. |
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25 Feb 07 - 10:31 AM (#1978827) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: Wilfried Schaum Andy - When going via Frankfurt: which train? |
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25 Feb 07 - 11:40 AM (#1978880) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: MudGuard Wilfried, my train goes München -> Ingolstadt -> Nürnberg -> Würzburg -> Fulda -> Kassel-Wilhelmshöhe -> Göttingen -> Hannover -> Hamburg-Harburg -> Hamburg No Frankfurt in that ... |
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25 Feb 07 - 12:03 PM (#1978909) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: John MacKenzie Quack Andy [Sorry Geoff!] G. |
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25 Feb 07 - 01:40 PM (#1979024) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering From: MudGuard Giok, did you drink too much Scotch? ;-) |
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26 Feb 07 - 03:00 AM (#1979594) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Wilfried Schaum Andy - let it be Wilhelmshöhe then. When? |
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26 Feb 07 - 08:31 AM (#1979758) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: MudGuard Wilfried, here are my train details ICE 882, ab München 8:20, ab Kassel-Wilhelmshöhe 11:34, an Hamburg Hbf 13:54 Weiterfahrt mit RE 21020, ab Hamburg Hbf 14:20, an Kiel Hbf 15:36 on the way back: ICE 927, ab Kiel 12:38, an Hamburg Hbf 13:43 ICE 881, ab Hamburg Hbf 14:05, ab Kassel Wilhelmshöhe 16:25, an München 19:38 I got seat reservations on the 3 ICE trains (but don't yet know which seats as I have not yet got the tickets/reservations) |
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26 Feb 07 - 11:33 AM (#1979898) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Wilfried Schaum Fine. Dates? I could join you in KS |
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26 Feb 07 - 11:35 AM (#1979902) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: MudGuard Friday, 4th of May, Monday 7th of May |
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03 Mar 07 - 06:20 PM (#1985276) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Fidjit Been out of Britain too long I think. I'm a bit confused about this Monday 7th. Is that a holiday day? If so what one is it? Don't think it's a holiday in Sweden. I see that Upton festival is on that week-end too with the Monday included. I haven't booked any ferries yet so it would help to know the dates we are doing what. Chas |
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04 Mar 07 - 04:43 AM (#1985572) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: MudGuard In the UK, usually, the first Monday in May is the "May Bank holiday" (and afaik a/k/a "Labour day"). In Germany, it is not a holiday ("Labour Day" in Germany is always the first of May) |
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04 Mar 07 - 08:21 PM (#1986342) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Susanne (skw) The plan is: - Friday: arrivals (anybody who would liek to arrive earlier, let me know. I'm not working in early May.) Dick Gaughan gig at Segeberg (30 mins from Kiel by car) - Saturday: Tour of the town for those who are interested, or crossing the firth by boat, having a meal and returning in time for Public ceilidh night with German and foreign musicians at Hof Akkerboom - Sunday: as on Sat, or lazing about Afternoon session at Hof Akkerboom - Monday: Stay on if you like, but as Germans have to be back at work (all but me) individual activities will be the order of the day I haven't arranged any meals or anything yet. Maybe we should start a new thread for the detailed planning. We could start it with another roll call, including mode of transport and accommodation. |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:09 AM (#1986592) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Wilfried Schaum Yes, start a new thread, call it (maybe) Eurogathering 2007, Details, please. And don't forget the address of Hof Akkerboom. Couldn't find it on the plan. For roll call: book me in for May, 4-7, same arrival and depart as Mudguard. If there is no corner or table for me to roll out my mattrass, 2 trees in hammock distance will do (but roof preferred). Eager to meet you Wilfried |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:16 AM (#1986597) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: MudGuard Roll call? In Kiel that would probably be "BRÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖTCHEN!" ;-) If new thread, then "Eurogathering Kiel, May 4th-7th, 2007, Details" would be better than Wilfried's suggestion. |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:04 PM (#1987232) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Ernest Can you please recommend a B&B, Susanne? Or what other accommodations are possible? Best Ernest |
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07 Mar 07 - 03:09 PM (#1989771) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Susanne (skw) Ernest, b&b is not that popular in Germany, but there's one round the corner, on the way to Hof Akkerboom. I could ask them for you. Also, the Kiel website includes a link to the local tourist office where you'll find more accommodation. I'll PM you with the details of that first b&b, but not before the weekend, I'm afraid. Wilfried, you're welcome to the Akkerboom appleyard, of course, but my balcony may be more comfortable. Don't worry, we'll work something out. |
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08 Mar 07 - 11:24 AM (#1990537) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Fidjit Friday: arrivals (anybody who would liek to arrive earlier, let me know. I'm not working in early May.) Dick Gaughan gig at Segeberg (30 mins from Kiel by car) I might arrive earlier. Depends on the ferry times. Dick Gaugan could of interest too. Haven't seen him live. What's the ticket price? Chas |
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08 Mar 07 - 02:08 PM (#1990695) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Doug Chadwick Well, I've booked the ferry so I've got to take part now. I should arrive in Kiel in the late afternoon on Friday and will be staying 'til about lunchtime on the Monday. Looking forward to seeing everyone, DC |
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08 Mar 07 - 02:22 PM (#1990703) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Fidjit Yes I've booked my ferry too. See you there. Also Friday to Monday. Chas |
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09 Mar 07 - 01:38 PM (#1991718) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Letty I've cunningly used the parent connection to wiggle my way into Kiel this year, so Susanne: Please count me in, plus my mother and probably my father (if he can get time off). Woohoo! |
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09 Mar 07 - 04:08 PM (#1991860) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: MudGuard Yippieeeeeeeeeeeh! I missed you at Portaferry, Letty! |
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13 Mar 07 - 06:28 PM (#1995844) Subject: RE: 2007 Eurogathering, Kiel, 4th-6th May From: Susanne (skw) See here for the new, more detailed thread. Consider this one closed to avoid confusion, please. |