Anyone got a Cossack uniform?

28 Nov 06 - 05:46 AM (#1894399)
Subject: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Dave the Gnome

Or know where we can get one reasonably priced? Preferrably Kuban Cossack but I am sure a Don Cossack one could be modified (I think). Not for me btw - Son #2's wedding. He is entitled to wear one and quite fancies doing so. Not sure if he can take the sword and bullets into the ceremony though:-)

Cheers

DtG

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28 Nov 06 - 06:20 AM (#1894424)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: The Walrus

Dave,

If you only need one for the wedding, try Berman & Angel (a merger of the old Berman's & Maurice Angel's) the theatrical costumiers - although, it helps to know exactly what you are after. As far as I recall, their main offices are in London, but I believe they have several regional offices around the country.

I'm assuming that you are after the traditional ceremonial cossack dress.

For the Shashka and kinjal*, you may have to hire from someone like Bapty's (primarily theatrical/film firearms hire, but I believe they hire all manner of weaponry) - failing that Manton firearms or Worldwide Arms (can't remember which) used to carry Soviet era military shaskas (black painted steel scabbards with fittings to carry a bayonet) and, I believe, some of the daggers (not matching), unfortunately, I haven't seen their catalogues for a number of years.

Not much help I'm afraid.

Walrus


*I think those are the names for the cossack sabre without a knuckle bow and the long dagger.

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28 Nov 06 - 06:28 AM (#1894431)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Dave the Gnome

No - That's a big help, Walrus. Never even thought of theatrical costume. I will investigate. Thanks:-)

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28 Nov 06 - 10:12 AM (#1894628)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Blowzabella

Angels website - I've used them through work many times - they are very good, but only based in London - no regionals as far as I'm aware

http://www.angels.uk.com/

for weapons....

Bapty & Co Norwood Green 020 8574 7700

These two are best in business

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28 Nov 06 - 11:02 AM (#1894665)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: mack/misophist

Each Host had its own distinctive uniform of either grey-brown , blue or green with red, crimson, yellow or light blue facings. Cossacks were expected to provide their own uniforms. While these were sometimes manufactured in bulk by factories owned by the individual Host, garments were often handed down or cut out within a family. Individual items might accordingly vary from those laid down by regulation or be of obsolete pattern.

The Caucasian Hosts (Kuban and Terek) wore the very long, open fronted, cherkesska coats with ornamental cartridge loops and coloured beshmets (waistcoats), that epitomise the popular image of the Cossacks. Most Hosts wore fleece hats with coloured cloth tops in full dress with peaked caps for ordinary duties. The two Caucasian Hosts however appear to have worn high fleece caps on most occasions.

copied from Wikipedia

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28 Nov 06 - 11:16 AM (#1894676)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Kevin Sheils

Your son dressed as a Cossack, the priest dressed in a Cassock.

There's got to be a song there somewhere!

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28 Nov 06 - 11:50 AM (#1894698)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: GUEST, Topsie

Was he granted the right to wear the uniform? Or did he inherit it? Are you a cossack too? No help, I know, but you've got us interested.

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28 Nov 06 - 12:15 PM (#1894716)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Dave the Gnome

Inherited apparantly - The right to 'Cossackdom' is passed down the male line. Grandad was a Cossack so therefore was Dad, so am I and so on. Grandad also became a Russian Orthodox priest when he came to England - So he was a Cossack in a cassock:-)

Did you ever see the 'Likely Lads' sketch, Kevin?

What's them things you kneel on in Church?

A Cossack?

No, that's one of them Russian blokes that rides round on a horse.

I thought that was a Cassock?

No, the priest wears one of them.

I thought that was a hassock?

:D (tG)

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28 Nov 06 - 12:17 PM (#1894719)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Kevin Sheils

Ah! At the misty back of my mind that old Likely Lads sketch may have been lurking without my knowledge.

Surplice to requirements here though

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28 Nov 06 - 03:32 PM (#1894900)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Geoff the Duck

And who will be dressed like a pillock?
Quack!
GtD.

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28 Nov 06 - 06:58 PM (#1895103)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: The Walrus

Dave,

I used to know a charachter, of 'Cossack' stock.
Apparently; His Great Grandfather had been a Cossack for the Tsar;
His Grandfather had ridden as a Cossack with the Red Army in the Civil War; and
His father ended riding as in the 'black' cossack (for the Germans) in WWII (and 'became Polish' in captivity - managing to avoid being sent back to Uncle Joe).
That's the story he told, anyway.

W

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28 Nov 06 - 07:35 PM (#1895126)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Fliss

Hiya

My better half suggests you contact the 1914-21 Society. They reenact Russian Revolution.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/20th_century_warfare/id22.htm

Love the beard in the front row - very George V or the Tzar. He does Kaban Cossack.

We own the gun in the picture now... but do Home Guard and Land Army as would be too old to be in active service.

Hope this is helpful.

cheers fliss

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29 Nov 06 - 05:45 AM (#1895379)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Dave the Gnome

Hiya Fliss - I have tried the three contact addys from the web site but none of them seem to work - DO you have any other contacts by any chance?

Cheers

Dave

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29 Nov 06 - 11:46 AM (#1895659)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: leeneia

Rented theatrical costumes are often cheap-looking when seen close up.
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Has anyone asked the bride how she feels about all this?

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29 Nov 06 - 12:15 PM (#1895685)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Bernard

Try the Ukrainian Centre on Castle Street in Bolton... I'm sure they will be able to help.

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29 Nov 06 - 12:55 PM (#1895722)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Dave the Gnome

Next step, Bernard, and the Byelorussian club nearby.

Leenia, no of course we haven't. Women don't count in the Cossack world. (What's the symbol for a faceteous smiley?)

:D (tG)

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29 Nov 06 - 12:56 PM (#1895724)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Dave the Gnome

Sorry, Bernard - Not nearby in Bolton. I was thinking of the Cheetham Hill one.

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30 Nov 06 - 05:13 AM (#1896319)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Fliss

Hi The Walrus .. we call ourselves 20th Century Revisited and do an interactive diarama of artifacts and talk to the public about mainly WWII. We also do traditional brick and tile making demos.
http://www.20crevisited.co.uk/

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30 Nov 06 - 05:16 AM (#1896322)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Fliss

woops hit the wrong key.
http://www.20crevisited.co.uk/ Am revamping site at min.

We are in contact with Chatham HG.

Ill ask my better half if he has any contact phone numbers for the group, Dave.

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30 Nov 06 - 05:30 AM (#1896327)
Subject: RE: Anyone got a Cossack uniform?
From: Fliss

Have sent you a pm Dave with a contact email.

fliss

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