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29 Nov 06 - 07:57 PM (#1896044) Subject: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: HiHo_Silver Hello: I have this Guitar Chord symbol on a piece of sheet music. I am unfimilar with the symbol and am unable to find it in any chord dictionary I have. Chord symbol is: "C#-" and appears to be built on the notes from bottom of clef to top as follows: E G Bb C#. Is there another symbol? Minor , 7th, Dim. etc. for this chord? what is the finger position on the guitar to build this chord? Thanks for any info. Jim |
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29 Nov 06 - 08:05 PM (#1896050) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: GUEST,DonMeixner I got a C#- once in Phys. Ed. Don |
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29 Nov 06 - 08:06 PM (#1896052) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: Nick C# diminished Equal spaces between the notes - C# (3) E (3) G (3) Bb Mind you, in the order it's written it could be an E diminished :) or the first inversion of a ... |
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29 Nov 06 - 08:11 PM (#1896056) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: Nick Like augmenteds have 4 semitones between the notes C# (4) F (4) A (4) C# So only 4 basic augmented chords and three basic diminished ones as you play them up the neck of a guitar |
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29 Nov 06 - 08:14 PM (#1896058) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: Nick The shape is normally (for me) xx2323 for a C#dim (or Edim/Gdim/Bbdim) and then you can run it up the guitar xx5656 xx8989 xx11 12 11 12 Spine tingling Alice's restaurant stuff :) |
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29 Nov 06 - 09:11 PM (#1896094) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: HiHo_Silver Great informatio thanks: Neglected to mention the circumstances. The Key is GM The progression is GM B7 CM C#- G E7 etc. Perhaps this will provide a clue as to the correct chord name. |
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29 Nov 06 - 09:29 PM (#1896108) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: M.Ted Certainly seems like the chord is a C# diminished--generally though, C#-" is used to indicate C#minor--I have a feeling that, like so many pieces of sheet music, the chords could be improved--don't know what song you're playing, but that progression sounds a bit odd when played like that. It sounds better if you use a C minor where the C#- is--of course, it might not fit the song-- What song are you playing? |
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29 Nov 06 - 09:36 PM (#1896115) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: HiHo_Silver The tune is a traditional fiddle tune: The Four Jacks. It is hard to explain the melody. However the melody notes for that passage are as follows: g f g a f a b g e. This passages starts with CM C#- GM. |
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30 Nov 06 - 09:40 AM (#1896491) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: GUEST,Johnmc I have more normally seen an "0 " as the sign for diminished chords. |
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30 Nov 06 - 12:17 PM (#1896587) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: Darowyn If a standard C7 chord is made up of C,E,G,Bb, then your chord is only one note different, the root becomes C#. That is piece of cake for a piano player,- only one finger to move- and that is why the chord is such a common one in jazz. I personally believe that the naming of any chord beyond a basic triad should be regarded as a mnemonic device at best. According to context, you might be hearing that chord as C7flat9, C#dim, C#m7 etc etc. The most common use for the chord is in the jazz version of the four chord turnaround that goes with songs like "Stormy Weather" C C#dim Dm7 G7, quite a lot classier than C Am F G! Cheers Dave |
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30 Nov 06 - 01:42 PM (#1896669) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: GUEST,Jim Another fingering for a c#dim is 3x232x. Dave's turnaround could be fingered: C-3x555x, C#dim-3x323x, Dm7-5x353x, G7-3x343x. I don't have a guitar in my hands, so I hope that's right. I often make the C-x3555x, but with the first way, I think it's C/G, you use the same combination of strings for all chords. |
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30 Nov 06 - 03:01 PM (#1896756) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: Jeremiah McCaw ". . . use a C minor where the C#- . . ." Looked at in a different way, if you finger a C major chord and then play a C# note wherever the C note would normally be, that IS a C# diminished chord. That help, or just muddy the issue even further? |
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30 Nov 06 - 06:27 PM (#1896952) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: M.Ted I mentioned the Cminor chord not because it is in any way equivalent to what is there, but because it was something else that fit in that kind of a progression--the progression that he has is certainly viable and valid--just seems more of jazz/pop standards progression than a "traditional" progression -- |
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30 Nov 06 - 06:46 PM (#1896971) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: Grab C7 chord, to be more accurate... |
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01 Dec 06 - 02:07 AM (#1897194) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Name this Guitar Chord symbol From: M.Ted Here are some different ways to rework the same chord progression--giving varying degrees of Jazziness and folkiness-- G-B7-C-Cm-G-E7-A7-D7-G G-B7-C-C#dim-G-E7-A7-D7-G G-B7-C-A7- G-E7-A7-D7-G G-Bm-C-Cm-G-Em-Am-D7-G G-Bm-C-C-G-Em-Am-D7-G-- And, if you want, you can go from the G to the E7 like this: G-F#7-F7-E7- |