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13 Dec 06 - 03:57 PM (#1908686) Subject: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti Hi I was wondering if anyone has any insights on overheating to the point of sweating in bed - usually early in the morning. To the point of needing to change pyjama tops in the night. This has come and gone over the last 15 years and recently I took to taking 1/4 asprin. This actually reduces the severity but is a paliative, I can tell if I miss a day it will return. Miss several (like for a tooth extraction) and it comes back to full effect in about 5 days. Nighttime heart arhytmia is likewise a co-factor and responds similarly. The doctor can find no reason for it in blood tests - no anaemia, no thyroid indicators, no TB (I had X-Rays). He also thought the asprin should (in most people) actually cause overheating being pyrophillic. He described the arhytmia as ectopic and quite undramatic, and typical if it occurs when lying down. Certainly his explanation fits the feeling. Apart from a little nagging concern about thyroid problems not always being obvious in blood tests in the early stages I am reassured by the investigation but I have an inqiring mind and wondered if there were other things to consider. OK 'catters - any ideas. I am very fit for a fifty something, not overweight, male (just in case HRT is suggested - maybe it could be), and no other long term medical problems, and very few short term ones like colds etc. |
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13 Dec 06 - 06:03 PM (#1908811) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Rapparee Is there a sleep clinic attached to a nearby hospital? If so, they could put you up for the night, all wired up and attached to machines. |
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13 Dec 06 - 06:05 PM (#1908814) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Cluin Beware Spontaneous Human Combustion. |
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13 Dec 06 - 06:08 PM (#1908819) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: John MacKenzie Well ectopic heartbeats are worrying but not a problem so don't worry I used to get it a lot. The hot sweats are a difficult one to pin down, I did suffer from them a little bit too, but they went, I just put it down to the male menopause. G |
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13 Dec 06 - 06:48 PM (#1908865) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: bobad The usual diagnosis, when nothing definite is pinned down, is "a virus." |
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13 Dec 06 - 07:18 PM (#1908919) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Sorcha My dad had them when he was taking progestrin (SP?) prescribed by the Dr. Are you taking any female hormones at all? Perhaps a testoserone patch might help. There IS a male menopause and the female hormones do increase, or at least have more effect as the testosterone level goes down. |
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13 Dec 06 - 07:47 PM (#1908942) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Jack Campin Well it could be polonium-210 but... ...it's more likely to be an allergic reaction to old bedding (either house dust mites or decaying foam releasing formaldehyde). Does it still happen if you sleep on much newer bedding in a different house? |
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13 Dec 06 - 09:59 PM (#1909007) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Slag I've had 'em all my life. Some nights the bed is literally sopping wet (no, and no jokes needed at this point.). I have always easily perspired and I drink plenty of liquids. I don't have a clue as to why but it must be a metabolic thing. I have measured a low T3 and T4 on thyroid and tried taking thyroid meds but they had no effect. I just live with it. |
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14 Dec 06 - 03:08 AM (#1909128) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Bagpuss http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=57394 |
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14 Dec 06 - 03:16 AM (#1909131) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: MBSLynne Try sage tea before you go to bed. Love Lynne |
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14 Dec 06 - 04:34 AM (#1909163) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti Sage tea - is that wise advice? Thanks everyone keep them coming - I will follow the link at dinnertime. It may be bedding etc, the mattress is 5 years old, latex. Will try changing the bedclothes more often. |
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14 Dec 06 - 04:46 AM (#1909172) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti Room not too hot, tried warm bed to get into - can't stand hot bed. Tried cold bed. Bed sock, wooly hat - nothing seems like that seems to change things. I do live with it - for 15 years off and on. Asprin keeps it down to the level of night needing to change the pyjama tops. And it the only indicator. Chocolate and Horlics instead of weak instant coffee during the evening does not change anything. Other beds usually indicates excerise and alcohol during the evening and yes, it does seem less of a problem then, but the degree of improvement is in the region where other parameters changing like the events of the evening could be confusing the issue. |
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14 Dec 06 - 06:58 AM (#1909255) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST sleep in a big fridge. |
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14 Dec 06 - 07:52 AM (#1909312) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweatty Yetti cool idea However------------ I used to get them when I went to bed in a freezing bed and still get them when I pre-heat the bed. On the principle that the body is operating on expectation and the temperature of the bed when entered is indicative of expectations of the rest of the night. I guess my brain ain't that smart or as the Doc put it (re asprin) - perverse. |
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14 Dec 06 - 08:02 AM (#1909321) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti well the link http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=57394 (should work properly - the blickie above doesn't but the text is correct) says much but the only thing that appears to fit the co-factors is: Idiopathic hyperhidrosis – Idiopathic hyperhidrosis is a condition in which the body chronically produces too much sweat without any identifiable medical cause. So know I know! Slag - does that make ya feel any better? Thought not. |
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14 Dec 06 - 08:09 AM (#1909324) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: JennyO We're ALL sweating tonight here in Sydney. 25 degrees C and the humidity is high. Even a sheet will be too much tonight! |
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14 Dec 06 - 04:22 PM (#1909686) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: McGrath of Harlow Idiopathic means "arising spontaneously or from an obscure or unknown cause". So this diagnosis literally means nothing more than "produces too much sweat without any identifiable medical cause." Brilliant diagnosis. Good to know the medics know what's up... |
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14 Dec 06 - 08:52 PM (#1909868) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Q (Frank Staplin) Just Old Scratch preparing you for the hereafter- |
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15 Dec 06 - 02:57 AM (#1910007) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: MBSLynne Hmmmm...lost a post again. I said....I assume you use natural fibre bedding? And nightclothes? Love Lynne |
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15 Dec 06 - 03:35 AM (#1910019) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti Natural fibres - sometimes - no apparent correlation. Pyjamas - yes. Natural fibres there. |
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15 Dec 06 - 03:40 AM (#1910021) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: Slag Idiotic hyper-hydration??Yop that sounds about right. Don't let it sweat ya yetti. I could look aat it this way: wet dreams every night!!!! |
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15 Dec 06 - 03:56 AM (#1910023) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: rich-joy SAGE is great for excessive sweating - capsules or tea ... Cheers! R-J |
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15 Dec 06 - 05:21 PM (#1910554) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti I got some liquid and I can't say it is the most invigorating drink of my life. AND the overall effect before I go to bed is one of clearing the sinuses - wiered. And it says on the bottle for "menopause". But says the shop - "men can have a menopause" - sure - but testosterone and it's loss is not the same - would the medicine/ingedients be the same? OK less testosterone means a higher percentage of oestrogen - especially if the fat cells are secreting it - which they do. But my weight is hardly excessive - for my age I would be regarded as below the norm for weight, though not scrawny. Who knows. |
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15 Dec 06 - 05:31 PM (#1910564) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: wysiwyg Do you sleep so deeply that you do not throw off the covers while asleep when you get too warm? Are you wrapping yourself up so tight that you just get too hot in the deep-sleep portion of the night? If so, drink some bedtime water. It will make you get up in the night to pee, and you can adjust the covers then while still mostly asleep for a lighter cover for the rest of your sleep. Our bedroom gets way too warm toward dawn, when we close the bedroom door at peetime, to shut out the dawning light that would otherwise awaken us shortly-- but the heat builds up too much then, so we have had to adjust the timer on the thermostat to bring the heat up a little later in the morning. As far as natural fibers for bedding-- you are using a mattress pad, right? If it's just sheet on mattress, that would cause a lot of heat buildup. ~Susan |
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30 Jan 07 - 07:44 AM (#1952229) Subject: RE: BS: Night Sweats From: GUEST,Sweaty Yetti Long term results It seems to be subsiding. I have substituted the 1/4 asprin for nuts. Hazel Nuts (actually filberts from USA) &/or almonds (shelled - from the cooking shelves of the supermarket) and it is now managable. The general feel - having listened to my body - is gut flora may be implicated (or a result of the same unspecified cause). Certainly things I hadn't noticed gone - are back in the diurnal rhythms. If I do wake-up and feel the problem is threatening (in a mild way) I just expose a limb to cool the situation. I doubt the bedclothes are too much. One fairly slim duvet and no heating from about 10pm and the thermostat is set around 15 degC anyway. Anyway thanks for all the ideas. |