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Fairytale of New York

21 Dec 06 - 08:00 PM (#1916247)
Subject: Fairytale of New York
From: GUEST

This week in Brixton.


The gig of the year. Shane was the best he has been for years and sober. Jem Finer's daughter doing the Kirstie bit and even dancing and fake snow.


21 Dec 06 - 08:09 PM (#1916257)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: number 6

Thanks for that Guest!!

and thank you Shane.

One of my favourite Xmas songs.

biLL


22 Dec 06 - 12:10 AM (#1916387)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: number 6

refresh


22 Dec 06 - 03:43 AM (#1916449)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Wolfgang

I only knew Christy Moore's version of that song until now and I did loved to hear the original.

Wolfgang


22 Dec 06 - 03:44 AM (#1916450)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Goose Gander

the show in Los Angeles a few months back was great - my wife's birthday present to me! - i only wish Shane could write a few more songs . . . .


22 Dec 06 - 04:17 AM (#1916464)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Splott Man

Thank you


22 Dec 06 - 05:08 AM (#1916487)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Shaneo

The Pogues played Dublin last night and were brilliant


22 Dec 06 - 05:51 AM (#1916511)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: fat B****rd

Thank you. All The Best, Guest.


22 Dec 06 - 07:48 AM (#1916590)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: GUEST,jOhn

One of me favouritest songs, thanks guest.


22 Dec 06 - 08:18 PM (#1917129)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Ruth Archer

MichaelMorris, Shane has written loads of songs. The Pogues' albums are full of his stuff - insightful, well-crafted, original songs which are evidence of a unique talent.

Maybe you already know that - it's hard to tell from your message. But if you don't know the full canon of his work, it's well worth seeking out.

He's unlikely to porduce anything in future, which is incredibly sad. I wish he'd write some more songs, too.


22 Dec 06 - 08:48 PM (#1917156)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: GUEST,opening poster

To the contrary Ruth he is very likely to write new songs in the future. I hope you enjoy them.


22 Dec 06 - 09:33 PM (#1917181)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Goose Gander

I have every record he made, including the Nips, and I love it all. I only wish he had written more songs so that there would be more to enjoy.


22 Dec 06 - 09:52 PM (#1917188)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Effsee

Actually Wolfgang, that is not the original. That was with Kirsty MacColl.
Michael Morris, I think there is more to come from the man, he's not dead yet!!


24 Dec 06 - 04:19 PM (#1918319)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: McGrath of Harlow

"He's unlikely to produce anything in future"

I can't see why not - here's - "Shane's yule blog: sleeping, gigging and holding court", written this week, and still pretty eloquent:

"Some of the touring party are as bickering and bitchy as ever from time to time, but that's to be expected with the group history. These days, it's all carefully managed into a productive, well-oiled machine, pun intended. The cracks are smoothed over and the old animosities aren't flattered with the opportunity to make waves. Once we're on that stage we become the troubadours of old, and we make our joyous noise."

If he can write like that he can still write songs.


24 Dec 06 - 04:38 PM (#1918330)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Ruth Archer

god - I hope you're right.

Actually, the original FToNY featured Cait O'Riordan...

only sayin'.


24 Dec 06 - 07:01 PM (#1918424)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Anne Lister

Interesting prog tonight on BBC3 about the recording of the song and its history.


24 Dec 06 - 07:57 PM (#1918447)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Murray MacLeod

Always nice to see Shane McGowan resurfacing, but to be honest, the performance in the video in the initial post doesn't hold a candle to some of the other videos of FTONY on YouTube which feature Kirsty McColl.

This one ids just about the pick of them imo


25 Dec 06 - 12:14 PM (#1918699)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Wolfgang

Effsee,

was it written for her? Or did she just sing it first?

Wolfgang (curious)


25 Dec 06 - 12:38 PM (#1918710)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: Effsee

Wolfgang, maybe Ruth Archer has the rights of it regarding "the original FToNY featured Cait O'Riordan", I'm not sure, but it was with KM that I first heard the song...which seems an awful long time ago now!


25 Dec 06 - 06:41 PM (#1918884)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: GUEST,Nicholas Waller

As I remember it (from a TV docco a while ago), Cait O'Riordan was the bassist in the band while The Pogues were first developing the song, and so she sang on an early version of it. By the time it came to record it properly, which was a year or so later, O'Riordan had left the band and it wasn't clear who was going to do the female part.

Steve Lillywhite, their new producer, told them that he thought it suited his wife's voice (ie Kirsty MacColl) and could he try it out with her? So he took a tape home and had her record with it, and the band thought it was great when he brought the result back to them, and the rest is history.


26 Dec 15 - 11:28 AM (#3760937)
Subject: RE: Fairytale of New York
From: FreddyHeadey

Pogues - Fairytale of New York
from the BBC
'Soul Music' series...
-so it isn't all about the song, it's about other people's relationship with the song too. Worth a listen I think.

"The tragi-comic tale of love gone sour and shattered dreams eloquently depicted in the Christmas classic Fairytale of New York is the focus of this edition of Soul Music. James Fearnley, pianist with The Pogues recounts how the song started off as a transatlantic love story between an Irish seafarer missing his girl at Christmas before becoming the bittersweet reminiscences of the Irish immigrant down on his luck in the Big Apple, attempting to win back the woman he wooed with promises of 'cars big as bars and rivers of gold'...."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06s9d1h