04 Jan 07 - 09:50 AM (#1926392) Subject: Or:Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Richie Hi, I was wondering if we could try to find versions of the Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O for the DT. "A popular 19th century fiddle and play party tune well remembered by older informants across the South" (Charles Wolfe). Any early versions? Is this song a minstrel song? How does it relate to "Sugar in my Coffee-O." Same song? How does it relate to "What'll we do with the Baby-O?" I'll post some info, Thanks Richie |
04 Jan 07 - 09:58 AM (#1926403) Subject: RE: Or:Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Richie From Folk Index Prettiest Little Girl/Gal in the County-O/Country/World [Me IV-D 5] Rt - Old Aunt Jenny ; Turkey Buzzard At - Prosperity Breakdown Rm - Sugar in the Coffee(-o) 10. Blake, Norman and Nancy. Blind Dog, Rounder 0254-C, Cas (1988), trk# 3 11. Davenport, Clyde. Puncheon Camps, Appalachian Center Ser. AC 002, Cas (1992), trk# 11 12. Griffin, Mrs. G. A.. Morris, Alton C. / Folksongs of Florida, Univ. Florida, Bk (1950), p226/#136 [1934-39] 13. Phelps, Jake; and Street Butler. Titon, Jeff Todd / Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes, Kentucky, Bk/ (2001), p156/#129 [1965/08/10] 14. Tanner, Gordon. Rosenbaum, Art (ed.) / Folk Visions & Voices. Traditional Music & So...., University of Georgia, Bk (1983), p111 [1981/12/19] Sugar in the Coffee(-o) Rm - Prettiest Little Girl/Gal in the County-O/Country/World 6. Enloe, Lyman. Fiddle Tunes I Recall, County 762, LP (1977/1973), trk# 4 7. Holt, Bob. Got a Little Home to Go To, Rounder 0432, CD (1999), trk# 9b 8. Reed, Frank. Christeson, R. P. / Old Time Fiddlers Reportory, Vol. 2, University of Missouri, Bk (1984), #129 [1970s] 9. Stecher, Jody; and Kate Brislin. Our Town, Rounder 0304C, Cas (1993), trk# 3c |
04 Jan 07 - 10:00 AM (#1926404) Subject: RE: Or:Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Richie From Traditional Ballad Index: What'll I Do with the Baby-ODESCRIPTION: Song describes various things to do with baby: wrap him up in calico, put him in his cradle, wrap him in the table cloth, throw him in the hayloft, hang him in the tree top, etc. Also, "How in the world do the old folks know I like sugar in my coffee-O?"AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1917 (Cecil Sharp collection) KEYWORDS: drink food humorous lullaby playparty baby floatingverses FOUND IN: US(Ap,MW,SE) REFERENCES (8 citations): SharpAp 228, "What'll we do with the Baby?" (1 text, 1 tune) Ritchie-Southern, pp. 26-27, "What'll I Do with the Baby-O" (1 text, 1 tune) Peters, p. 173, "What Will I Do with the Baby-O?" (1 short text, 1 tune) Cohen/Seeger/Wood, p. 162, "What'll I Do with the Baby-O" (1 text, 1 tune) Pankake-PHCFSB, p. 234, "Charlie, Won't You Rock the Cradle" (1 text) Silber-FSWB, p. 407, "Prettiest Little Baby In The County-O"; 408, "What'll We Do With The Baby-O?" (2 texts) DT, DOBABYO ADDITIONAL: James P. Leary, Compiler and Annotator, _Wisconsin Folklore_ University of Wisconsin Press, 2009, article "Kentucky Folksong in Northern Wisconsin" by Asher E. Treat, pp. 249-250, "What Will I Do with the Baby-Oh?" (1 text, 1 tune, sung by Pearl Jacobs Borusky) Roud #826 RECORDINGS: Coon Creek Girls, "What Do I Do With the Baby-O" (Songs from Renfro Valley - Bell, mx. 2002, n.d., postwar) Crockett's Kentucky Mountaineers, "Sugar in my Coffee" (Crown 3075, c. 1930) [G. B.] Grayson & [Henry] Whitter, "What You Gonna Do with the Baby?" (Victor V-40268, 1930; rec. 1929) Happy-Go-Lucky Boys, "Whatcha Gonna Do With the Baby?" (Bluebird B-8391, 1940) J. E. Mainer's Mountaineers, "What You Gonna Do With the Baby-O?" (King 538, 1946) Frank Proffitt, "Baby-O" (Proffitt03) Jean Ritchie & Roger Sprung, "What'll I Do With the Baby-O?" (on RitchieWatson1, RitchieWatsonCD1) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "Rock-A-Bye Baby" (words) cf. "Sugar In My Coffee" (floating lyrics) File: R565 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2014 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
04 Jan 07 - 10:02 AM (#1926409) Subject: RE: Or:Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Richie Andrew Kuntz (click): PRETTIEST (LITTLE) GIRL IN THE COUNTRY(-O). AKA ‑ "Prettiest Little Girl in the County‑O," "Purtiest Gal in the Country." AKA and see "Old Aunt Jenny," "Prosperity Breakdown." Old‑Time, Breakdown with Vocals. USA, fairly common in the South. G Major. Standard. ABB (Titon): AABB (Rosenbaum). The tune is similar in its melodic countour to "What're We Gonna Do with the Baby‑O" and to "Turkey Buzzard." R.P. Christeson notes similarity to his "Sugar in the Coffee" (Old Time Fiddler's Repertory, vol. II, No. 129). "A popular 19th century fiddle and play party tune well remembered by older informants across the South" (Charles Wolfe). Jeff Titon says the tune is generally well known in the South, but not frequently found in the repertoires of Kentucky fiddlers. Alan and Elizabeth Lomax recorded the tune for the Library of Congress from the playing of fiddler George C. Nicholson. See also Thomas Tally's No. 41. Verses are commonly sung to the last line of the 'B' part, such as: *** Cornstalk fiddle and pea vine bow, Gwine take Sal to the party. Swing 'em like you love 'em, The boys are not above 'em. Little more sugar in the coffee‑o, Swing Sal to the party. Prettiest little girl in the country‑o, Mommy and Daddy told me so. (Skillet Lickers) *** Prettiest little girl in the country‑o, Papa and mama both said so. All dressed up in calico, I'm gonna take her to the party‑o. I can get her if I want her, I can get her if I want her. (Gordon Tanner) *** Prettiest little girl in the county oh How do I know, cause she told me so. (Gene Goforth) *** Sources for notated versions: Gordon Tanner (Dacula, Gwinnett County, Georgia) [Rosenbaum]; Jake Phelps and Street Butler (Pea Ridge, Todd County, Ky., 1965) [Titon]. Rosenbaum (Folk Visions and Voices: Traditional Music and Song in North Georgia), 1989; pg. 111. Titon (Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes), 2001; No. 129, pg. 156. Berea College Appalachian Center AC002, Clyde Davenport – "Puncheon Camps" (1992). Columbia 15315 (78 RPM), Clayton McMichen (1928). Davis Unlimited DU 32028, W.L. Gregory – "Homemade Stuff" (1978). Folkways FTS 31062, "Ship in the Clouds: Old Time Instrumental Music" (1978. Learned from the Gid Tanner and Riley Puckett recording). Rounder 1023, Gid Tanner and His Skillet Lickers (North Ga.) ‑ "The Kickapoo Medecine Show" (1980, originally recorded 1924). Rounder CD-0388, Gene Goforth – "Emminence Breakdown" (1997). Voyager VRLP 328‑S, "Kenny Hall and the Long Haul String Band" (learned from the 1924 Skillet Lickers recording). Recorded for the Library of Congress by W.A. Bledsoe (Meridian, Mississippi), 1939. |
04 Jan 07 - 10:06 AM (#1926415) Subject: RE: Or:Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: BanjoRay Here's the only version I've heard, Richie. Lovely tune. Cheers Ray from Dirk Powell - "Time Again" CD Prettiest little girl in the county-o Walked right up and told her so Chorus I'm gonna love her in the morning I'm gonna love her in the evening I'm gonna love her in the morning I'm gonna love her in the evening Prettiest little girl in the county-o All dressed up in calico Chorus Swing em like you love 'em Boys you ain't above 'em Chorus Prettiest little girl in the county-o Her Daddy and mammy both told me so Chorus |
04 Jan 07 - 06:23 PM (#1926814) Subject: RE: Or:Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: GUEST,Hootenanny Can I reccomend the version recorded by The Monks on their CD Ragged but Righteous; Claudio Buchwald, Frank Hall, Abby Ladin and Sam Bartlett, They call it Prettiest Little Miss in the County-O. It's on Yodel-Ay-Hee 045. Only recorded in 2002 but well worth a listen. |
04 Jan 07 - 10:37 PM (#1926982) Subject: Lyr Add: PRETTIEST GIRL IN THE COUNTY-O From: Richie PRETTIEST GIRL IN THE COUNTY-O Kenny Hall: "I learned it in 1942 from Gid Tanner and Riley Puckett." Prettiest girl in the county-o, Watch her sway, do-see-doe. Prettiest girl in the county-o, Watch her sway, do-see-doe. CHORUS: Prettiest girl in the county-o, I like sugar in the coffee‑o. Prettiest girl in the county-o, Pass that sugar with the coffee‑o. Prettiest girl in the county-o, I can't get her in the morning-o. Prettiest girl in the county-o, I can't get her in the evening-o. Swing 'em like you love 'em, Boys ain't above 'em. Prettiest girl in the county-o, I can't get her in the morning-o. |
13 Jan 07 - 05:16 PM (#1935579) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Jim Dixon Jody Stecher & Kate Brislin sang a traditional song they called OLD COUNTRY STOMP that contains the phrase "Prettiest little girl in the county-o" on their album "Our Town." It's also on the Rounder collection "Hills of Home." Lyrics are posted here. |
13 Jan 07 - 06:06 PM (#1935626) Subject: Lyr Add: SUGAR IN COFFEE (from Thomas W. Talley) From: Azizi SUGAR IN COFFEE Sheep's in de meader a' mowin' o' de hay. De honey's in de bee-gum, so dey all say. My head's up an' I'se bound to go. Who'll take sugar in de coffe-o? I'se de prettiest liddle gal in de country-o. My mammy an' daddy, dey bofe say so. I looks in de glass, it don't say no. So I'll take sugar in de coffee-o. Source: Thomas W. Talley "Negro Folk Rhymes", originally published 1922 |
13 Jan 07 - 06:54 PM (#1935665) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: GUEST,Dale Try Dandy Jim From Caroline, 1844 for more similarities. http://www.iath.virginia.edu/utc/minstrel/dandyjimfr.html
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13 Jan 07 - 11:35 PM (#1935874) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Richie Thnaks for the additional recent posts everyone. Dale- That's a great find. Richie |
13 Jan 07 - 11:50 PM (#1935885) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: Richie From the MP3 of Sweet Dandy Jim of Caroline by Japher's "Original" SANDY RIVER MINSTRELS. For my ole massa tole me so, I was de best lookin *feller in de County O, I look in de glass an I found it so, Jus what massa told me O. *edited The Prettiest Little Girl originated from the chorus of Dandy Jim from Caroline (posted above). It was published in Baltimore by F. D. Benteen in 1844. [This song was published in 1844 by at least six publishers, and in New York and Boston as well as in Baltimore. By different publishers it was attributed it to Chas. Reps, Dan Emmet, Geo. F. Bristow and J. T. Norton. The lyrics differ somewhat from publisher to publisher.] |
26 May 14 - 01:44 AM (#3628206) Subject: ADD: Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: GUEST Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O By Ten String Symphony Prettiest girl in the County-O All dressed up in calico. I can't get her in the mornin' I can't get her in the mornin'. Cornstalk fiddle and a pea vine bow. Gonna take Sal to the party-o. I can't get her in the mornin' I can't get her in the mornin'. Swing her like you love her. Boys, you ain't above her. I can't get her in the mornin' I can't get her in the mornin'. Prettiest girl in the County-O. Ma and Daddy both think so. I can't get her in the mornin' I can't get her in the mornin'. Prettiest girl in the County-O All dressed up in calico. I can't get her in the mornin'. I can't get her in the mornin'. She's the prettiest girl in the County-O Boy, my momma told me so. Looked in the glass and found it so. She's the prettiest girl in the County-O. |
26 May 14 - 09:59 PM (#3628415) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O From: GUEST,# http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/group.php?discussionid=3104&do=discuss
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