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Lyr Req: Schooldays Over / Schooldays End (MacColl

22 Mar 99 - 04:18 AM (#64894)
Subject: I need some words
From: Paul M

I'm after the words to a folk song by Ewan MacColl, "School Day's Over" Can anyone help ?


22 Mar 99 - 05:37 AM (#64913)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

ooo ooo can I ? Can I? Yes, I can.

Paul Up in the top right hand corner there's a box type [School Day's Over] or Ewan MacColl and you'll probably get it.

Ahhh. :o) Now I feel like a real MudCatter!


22 Mar 99 - 06:53 AM (#64924)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Banjer

I need some words: You all saw it, that was the request, so here goes, right from the first page of "The New Comprehensive A-Z Crossword Dictionary" A, aa, aardvark, Arron, aba, abaca, aback, Abaddon, abaft, abalone, abandon, abandoned, abandonment, abase, abasement, abash, abate, abatis, abattoir, abb, abba. There are more, about 1058 pages of them, and I will be more than happy to list them all if you think it will help!


22 Mar 99 - 07:21 AM (#64933)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Mo

I know I've been away for the last couple of weeks, but I thought the general concensus was that we weren't going to do things like the above to new people anymore? That's twice I've seen someone have their metaphorical wrist slapped in the past couple of days. Please tell me things haven't changed in the Mudcat? Perturbed, Mo


22 Mar 99 - 07:25 AM (#64934)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Ian

Words don't appear to be in DT. Got them somewhere ...


22 Mar 99 - 07:26 AM (#64935)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

Aww Mo....it's not a real problem...well only if you let it get to ya! NOI


22 Mar 99 - 07:27 AM (#64936)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Philippa

AlaisdairUK, According to Banjer and me, you're not a real Mudcatter until you feel compelled to lecture thread creators on how they name their threads. The problem with an overly-general thread name like this is that various people will see the title and add requests for words to unrelated songs. The thread then becomes a hodge-podge of song requests and responses, with for example someone answering a query three songs back. So please make tiltes more specific (real Mudcatters act like we run the place!)


22 Mar 99 - 07:29 AM (#64937)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

... and title at windmills?!


22 Mar 99 - 07:32 AM (#64940)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Ferrara

Steve Parkes, I think I love you! -- at the very least, I love your sense of humor! - RF


22 Mar 99 - 07:40 AM (#64944)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

So basically..i have to criticise someone and piss them off and then I can get accepted by the Hoi Poloi ?

( muttering ) I'll get at catspaw, if I piss him off it'll be a real coup. Steve Parkes is too easy, I've already done him. Hehehehe I know, I'll have a go at Alison.


22 Mar 99 - 07:49 AM (#64951)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Mo

Alistair, the raging pedant in me would like to point out that "the hoi polloi" is tautologous. It's just "hoi polloi". I'd like to point it out - but I suspect I can't spell it.....!! Naturally, I'm accepted everywhere, as not only do I possess innate natural charm and modesty, but I can and do piss people off with quite stunning speed. Can't think why....... ! BG

Mo


22 Mar 99 - 08:29 AM (#64962)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

Oh I don't know mo, you seem an extremely pleasant person to me. and tautologous...i must remember that one for my next TEFL class.


22 Mar 99 - 08:44 AM (#64967)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Big Mick

Sir Alistair

As an Irish gentleman trapped in an American body, I feel that honor requires that I warn you that trifling with the fair Alison should be considered only in the light of the peril it brings to you. You see, I have pursued her favor across the mountains and valleys of cyberspace and would consider an attack on her as a personal insult. Additionally, she is the musical partner of Alan the Ogre of Australia and he can be vicious when aroused to action. Additionally she has posted by far the most MIDI files to the database and any incursion into profaning her fair person would likely cause a tremendous backlash from the community at large. But more important than any of these things, she is an Irish woman under full sail. Which means she has her hands on her hip, her rapier wit at the ready, and a griddle nearby at all times, in the event she needs to punctuate the point she is making. I would advise caution in this matter!!!!!! LOL

Mick Lane


22 Mar 99 - 08:48 AM (#64968)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

SEE SEE I pissed someone off, I knew if I said I was going to have a go at Alison, that that salacious bugger Mick would be riled. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA a true 'Catter am I. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


22 Mar 99 - 08:51 AM (#64970)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: shadow405

Ok, I can take abuse as well as anyone. With St. Paddys just over, I am reminded of a song my mother sang years ago (many) and I haven't been able to find the words in any of the databases as yet. Don't know the exact title but it was about Casey's new hat. Some lyrics I remember are:

I had a had when I came in I hung it on the rack And I'll have a hat when I go out Or break somebodys back 'tis a daecent(sp?) man I am I am and I don't want to shout But I had a hat when I came in And I'll have a hat when I go out

......ring any bells???


22 Mar 99 - 09:31 AM (#64993)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Ferrara

Shadow, yes, dammit, it rings some bells but they are faint and far away and I WANT THAT SONG. I've heard it, I know I have, seems like I heard a buddy of my dad singing it, but no clear memories at all. Please somebody find it.


22 Mar 99 - 11:13 AM (#65021)
Subject: We need some words to School Day's Over
From: Philippa

It doesn't appear to be in the database, so we'd better go back to the original request. I bet Wolfgang has the lyrics, which are along the lines of:
Schoolday's over, come on then John
Time you were getting your pitboots on
On with your boots and moleskin trousers, you start at the pit today
Time you were learning the collier's job
And earning the collier's pay.


22 Mar 99 - 11:19 AM (#65023)
Subject: RE: School Day's Over
From: Philippa

I remeber another verse - though I may be making composite verses by mixing lines?

Come on then Joe, it's time to go
Time you were working down below
Time you were carrying pick and shovel
Time you were on your way
Time you were learning the collier's job Time you were learning the collier's job
And earning the collier's pay.


22 Mar 99 - 11:33 AM (#65025)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

I have a feeling that this is a Ewan MacColl song. A guy used to sing it at my local folk club when I lived in the UK.


22 Mar 99 - 12:06 PM (#65031)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Ferrara

Okay, thought it was in the DB. Have it on one of Ed Miller's tapes, but I'm not sure how accurate my transcription will be. Will look for it.


22 Mar 99 - 12:18 PM (#65032)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Ferarra - take me, I'm yours! (But don't tell Jo Taylor!)

AlistairUK - bollocks! (NOI)

Steve


22 Mar 99 - 01:54 PM (#65057)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AlistairUK

bug red ones too ..you shoud see a urologist steve NOI


22 Mar 99 - 07:41 PM (#65132)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

Oooah Steve you promised!
Jo
PS I think you tilt at windmills not title! Beable.


22 Mar 99 - 07:51 PM (#65134)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

Steve, do you do it in the morning? We never seem to meet in real time! I usually get here about 1am - midnight yours. Meet me in the chat room tomorrow!! Or is the other half there then? *big grin*
mes baises
Jo


22 Mar 99 - 07:58 PM (#65137)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From:

If you need words, get the Oxford English Dictionary. There's a slew of them there. Many more than most people will ever need.


22 Mar 99 - 08:28 PM (#65139)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Martin _Ryan

"Where did you get that hat , where did you get that hat...." ?

It's sneaking up on me, slowly...

Regards <> The great thing about these "anonymous threads" is that, when you see them growing, you know there's no point in reading them........ except....


23 Mar 99 - 03:35 AM (#65218)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Aagh! Caught in the act!! Well, not in the act exactly, but ...

Jo, Ferarra, take it easy; there's enough of me to go 'round (small, but beautifully marked): you'll just have to, well, slot me in to suit yourselves.

I'm here around 8.15 - 8.45 GMT; I don't know what your local time is, but then I don't know where you are; not that it helps when your'e professionally confused like what I am. [Gosh, a small tribute to Ernie Wise just slipped in unconsciously there ... I'm starting to beable again, aren't I?]

Well, I'm down here in beautiful downtown Milton Keynes, while my other half (and my beautiful daughter) is at home is Stonnall, Staffordshire. I have to put a crust on the table, you know, and I've already sent my son out to work. I've avoided the chat room so far, 'cos I think if I went in I'd ever come out; and I haven't sussed out the software yet, either.

Didn't know you spoke Spanish, Jo: moi, je suis impress‚. :o) Oh, and read Ferarra's post before my titling, and all will be revealed.

Steve


23 Mar 99 - 03:38 AM (#65220)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Actually Jo, I thought you'd gone of in a huff (and if that's too soon, go off in a minute and a huff!) because you didn't want me handling your phonofiddles ...


23 Mar 99 - 06:21 AM (#65241)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Oh my God, Ferrara - I've been spelling your name wrongly! Can you forgive me? It's one thing that's guaranteed to annoy me!

Stephen

P.S. Don't let on to that AlistairUK!


23 Mar 99 - 08:56 AM (#65267)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Big Mick

refresh


23 Mar 99 - 09:08 AM (#65273)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: alison

Hahahahahahaha...

that'll teach you to think about messing with me alastair... body guards all over the place, (well Michigan anyway....... **grin**)

slainte

alison


23 Mar 99 - 10:15 AM (#65286)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Ferrara

Don't worry about spelling my name wrong, Steve, two of my best friends spell it wrong on checks when they buy my craft work.

Well anyway at least this reminded me I've got to go look for that tape. (i.e., for the song that started this thread.) We may have all of the song now, with what was entered up above. Does anybody know? A quick look for the tape didn't find it, which means I'm doomed to searching through dusty cabinets.


23 Mar 99 - 11:30 AM (#65311)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: dick greenhaus

I hate to break this up, but if you do a search for schoolday* you'll find it in the DT.


23 Mar 99 - 12:22 PM (#65334)
Subject: Schoolday's over -education needed
From: Donna Quixote

The server isn't responding to do a DT search just now, bu I did one yesterday. Paul M, who started this thread, specified a song by Ewan MacColl. I searched [schoolday's over] and found a DIFFERENT song and I searched [Ewan MacColl] and found lots of different songs. I put two verses from my mildly muddled memory on this thread around 11 am yesterday and we're waitng for somebody else to finish the task. By the way, one verse should read "doing the pitman's job" and the other "doing the collier's job" (I wrote 'collier's' in both verses). One recording of this song was by Luke Kelly on the Dubliner's album "Revolution" ['m ALMOST sure of the album title}
Philippa


23 Mar 99 - 07:26 PM (#65445)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

Dear Stephen,
Sorry, through my haze of red wine last night (we had friends here, don't touch a drop otherwise) I couldn't see the title, tittle, tilty... Sharpness control restored now. Is that 8.15 - 8.45 in the morning?
No software required for the Mudcat chat room - just click on link up at the top.
Got to go - there's someone in there!!
Jo


23 Mar 99 - 07:31 PM (#65448)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

Sorry, it's not at the top of this one, here's the chat room
Jo


23 Mar 99 - 08:42 PM (#65466)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Sheye

Alas!

y'all seem to be havin' a great time. My server does not allow chat rooms - some kind of security violation - who knows.

I'll wimper at the door - and give my regards...

Sheye


24 Mar 99 - 02:16 AM (#65549)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Sandy Paton

Greenhaus gives it away, guys. It's hidden in the DT under the title "Schooldays End" for some reason. Correct text there, too, and suggested guitar chords! Yes, it's one of Ewan MacColl's fine songs. Godamighty, he wrote some dandies, didn't he?

Sandy


24 Mar 99 - 03:33 AM (#65563)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Hello Jo. Sounds like you only just got your sharpness back in time. My server doesn't allow chat rooms either - "security violation", it says. Might be a hint that I'm supposed to be working. We're a poor family, you see, can't afford to use our own phone and computer at the same time. Yes, it's in the morning, a time many 'Catters may only know by hearsay. Still, this way my instant repartee has plenty of time to mature between responses. (Although the first thing that comes into my head is usually the funniest; must be a moral in there somewhere.)

I'm not at my sharpest this morning: I spent a jolly couple of hours last night trying to find a pub in Cambridgshire, and another couple trying to find my way home, with about ten minutes in the middle watching Cosmotheka.

Never mind, back to sleep now.

Kasper Veste


24 Mar 99 - 03:47 AM (#65569)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Ian

Paul

Words are in a new thread :

Schooldays over - Paul M

Cheers! Ian


24 Mar 99 - 03:50 AM (#65571)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

Steve - I'm extremely glad I didn't come with you, then. Funny things happen when you're in a car in the middle of Cambridgeshire...

Your attempt to use a chatroom via the OU firewall has been noted. When's your appraisal?


24 Mar 99 - 08:33 AM (#65605)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AndyG

Steve,

I sympathise, I had a long walk on a very rainy night trying to find that particular pub.
Still a club that meets in a day-nursery in a public house has to be worth one visit. :)

AndyG


24 Mar 99 - 09:36 AM (#65610)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: bmooney3@hotmail.com

i need the orginal words to THE LEGEND OF JOHN HENRY could you please e-mail them to me or notify me as soon as you can get them it is really important


24 Mar 99 - 10:41 AM (#65615)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Are the two versions in the DT any good? Put [john henry] in the search box. If they're NBG, there's been a lot of discussion in another thread you could look through.

AndyG, were you there last night? I found it's 40 miles from MK going, 37 coming back; it's probably a lot less if you don't go the pretty way. I'm just glad I didn't walk!

Dai, it's not for ages yet: 9 months x 30 days x 6 pints of Hook Norton -- nobody's memory can stand up to that!

Steve


24 Mar 99 - 12:34 PM (#65630)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: AndyG

Steve,
No I'm afraid I wasn't there as I was at the Mayflower folk club, in Cambridge, to see Coope Boyes & Simpson. Fortunately I didn't know Cosmotheka were on so I didn't have a difficult decision to make.

I only walked from the bus stop but it took about an hour to find the pub as it's in the back of bloody beyond, and no-one in St Neots seemed ready to admit it existed.

AndyG


24 Mar 99 - 03:56 PM (#65658)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From:

words fail me!


24 Mar 99 - 06:46 PM (#65691)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

Well this thread seems to be providing lots of words for those of you who can't get in to the chat room, so maybe it's not that badly named. Kaspar Veste? Qu'est-ce que c'est? It'll probably dawn on me as soon as I've pressed the button and I've only had water tonight..
Jo


24 Mar 99 - 06:57 PM (#65695)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Barbara

I found that my "security violation" went away when I downloaded Netscape 4.51 and installed it in place of my 4.01.
That is to say, I had committed the technological faux paux of having less that current technology, rather than having a server with an inpenetrable firewall, though, typically, the failure notice failed to distinguish between problems.
If I plan to write computer commands, I'll need classes in advanced ambiguity and vagueness, tho perhaps just writing them in a foreign language would suffice.
There's some words for you.
Blessings,
Barbara


24 Mar 99 - 07:25 PM (#65701)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Pete M

Hi Steve waht courses are you doing with the OU?

Pete M


25 Mar 99 - 03:35 AM (#65796)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

­­Managar!! Fond greetings to Alto Joy from Sephten Sprake. Don't drink water unless it's been diluted with alcohol first - far more hygienic.

Barabra,have to see about that - thanks for the tip.

Pete, I got my OU degree in 1988; I'm actually working - as in being paid - for the OU now. (Details on request!)


25 Mar 99 - 08:57 PM (#65988)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

Silly me! Got whisky in it now. Much better, takes the horrid taste away. Do you know Jeff Johnson? He's a mathy lecturer, might even be a prof, there. Yes, there's probably hundreds of staff members, but he's been there years and is likely to hang out in folky places. Also, knowing your propensity for phonofiddles have you come across the Boodle Um Jug Stompers in that area? Don't know if they're still going or not. Off topic? No, we've still got lots of words.
Jo


26 Mar 99 - 03:37 AM (#66058)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

My brand new OU phone book has him down as Johnson, Jeffrey,S Res Fell, but I haven't met the gentleman. I'd be happy if you'd like to make the introductions. 'Stompers? Rings a bell, but I haven't seen 'em.

Actually Jo, if you like words per se, have a look here: http://www.quinion.com/words/

Steve

Funny, no jokes in this post ... must be the water ...


26 Mar 99 - 07:38 AM (#66078)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Penny

The circle closes: I got into this place via a recommendation from someone on the OU alumni site. Hardly been there since.


26 Mar 99 - 07:54 AM (#66080)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Another OU Alumnus? We should start our own thread - maybe our own Website!

Jo, I haven't got a propensity for phonofiddles - I'd just stand 'em on my leg, like everybody else.


26 Mar 99 - 06:33 PM (#66187)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Jo Taylor

What a lot of lovely words! I liked this one: The symptoms of Information Fatigue Syndrome include "a hyper-aroused psychological condition", "paralysis of analytical capacity", and "anxiety and self-doubt", leading to "foolish decisions and flawed conclusions".
Sounds familiar.
Say hello to Jeff if you meet him.
The Boodle-Ums were led by a chap called Smot, at least that's what his brother called him. Smot ( a certain Mr Toms)(it's a palindrome!!) was later heard to be playing in an English ceilidh band with a certain Mr Powell, unbeknownst to their respective brothers, curiously enough also known as Mr Toms and Mr Powell, in Devon! (with whom I was playing at the time).
Jo
(still on the water)


29 Mar 99 - 02:42 AM (#66616)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

Actually, did you know, (I start to talk like this in the pub around 9.30 - 10 o'clock, to complete strangers) there are more words in the English language than in any other? And where we don't just happen to have the mot just we'll happily pinch somebody else's, unlike some languages (no names, no pack drill!). I have to say, though, I rather enjoy the way the Germans won't invent a new word when four or five old ones will do the job just as well: why call something a tank when you can call it an armoured warfare vehicle? And where else would they have a word for attempt on the life of the aunt of a Hottentot potententate?

Steve

What? Oh, sorry: Hottentotenpotentatentantentotenattenten. I'm grateful to Fritz Spiegel for enriching my life with that one. (But I don't know if it's die der or das.)


29 Mar 99 - 05:16 AM (#66636)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: SueH

Ah, AndyG, you must be talking about the Coneygeare in St Neots. It's not too hard to find once you've been there a couple of times.

Hitchin Folk Club have some good people on - and if you like sessions, there's a very good one at the Greyhound pub in St Ippolyts (just outside Hitchin) on the 4th Wednesday of every month.

SueH


29 Mar 99 - 05:25 AM (#66640)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Steve Parkes

You're dead right about the Coneygeare, Sue; the problem is, it's impossible to find the first time! And why are all the roads around Cambridge only signposted in the direction you've just come? You can only find the right road after you realise you've taken a wrong turn.

Steve


26 Oct 04 - 04:59 AM (#1307394)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: GUEST,Susanna

I need the words to the song Montreaux Monto by The Dubliners / Luke Kelly - anyone able to help me out please ? Thanks.

Susanna.


26 Oct 04 - 05:09 AM (#1307404)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Helen

Hi Susanna,

Welcome to Mudcat.

First of all, try doing a search in the DT (Digital Tradition database) which has a search box at the top of this page. Keep both the DT and the Forum ticked because you may also find some good discussions in the Forum on the song you are after.

If you still don't find what you want then you can start a new thread.
And it works a lot better if you start a new thread with your request, using some info in the thread title, e.g.

Dubliners song: Montreux Monto

Helen


26 Oct 04 - 08:48 AM (#1307490)
Subject: RE: I need some words
From: Snuffy

Susanna

Do you mean this MONTO. The Dubliners have recorded this.

You'll find more verses and a history of the song here Lyr Req: Monto