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23 Jan 07 - 07:53 PM (#1946109) Subject: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST Well, I'm fed up with it. I don't want to pay too much for name branding, so I've never been a Mac fan for that reason alone. I work on both PCs and Macs for my job. A PC at home. I have a no-name MP3 player, because I should shell out a cupla hundred smackers for the name brand the kiddies have been brainwashed by marketing gurus into buying? A stock option scandal lands Martha Stewart in prison, but Mr. Jobs not so much as a slap on the hand. Just a stern look. And their latest ad campaign is just plain annoying. Anyone else tiring of this "coolest thing ever" advertising propaganda crap? If not, I've got an iPhone for you, but it costs $500-$600 more than you are currently paying for your cell phone... |
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23 Jan 07 - 08:02 PM (#1946116) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Amos THe day you could do a fraction of the good for any size group of people that Jobs has done for thousands of people, you'll probably feel brave enough to post under your own name. A |
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23 Jan 07 - 08:04 PM (#1946120) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Captain Ginger Me? I just prefer Macs. Couldn't give a fart who makes 'em. I've used PCs and Macs and since 1985 have stuck with Macs for personal use - but then I see the computer as just a tool, and have no inclination to fiddle with my registries or undertake all that arcane stuff that PC users have to do. For me, it's 'turn it on, use it, turn it off.' |
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23 Jan 07 - 08:30 PM (#1946141) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST I try to use a Mac. The security situation is much better than with the much larger platform. I detest much of the advertising, along with the snob appeal (there's plenty with Microsoft as well, and some with Linux). And choosing anonymity or not cannot be used as a measure of courage. |
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23 Jan 07 - 09:15 PM (#1946159) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST Well, I don't really give a rip about either the PC or the Mac, I'm a use what is at hand and open source as much as possible sort of computer user, like the Capt. except I prefer the PC. Dells are cheap. Very, very cheap. But it's the other stuff--the iPod, now the iPhone, that is really annoying. And the Apple cult hype--the propaganda, the cult worship of Jobs & Apple by the 20 somethings, the inflated prices for the name brand, and people INSISTING that an iPod really is better than any other MP3 because (fill in the blank with Apple propaganda rationalizations). |
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23 Jan 07 - 09:23 PM (#1946165) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: mack/misophist The fact is that is that Mac enthusiasts make Windows enthusiasts look like cold fish. Another fact is that I don't use either. Whether he deserves it or not, Jobs gets the credit for Apple's success. His fans adore him. |
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23 Jan 07 - 09:30 PM (#1946168) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST I hate the "two times faster" claims when what is meant is two times as fast, which can be taken as three times as fast if taken literally (100% + 200% = 300%}. |
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24 Jan 07 - 05:07 PM (#1947020) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST,Shimrod Yeah, but it's really cool to sit in a coffee bar, with a wifibluetoothdoodah access hotspot ... or something (possibly?), surfing the Net on your Apple Mac Notebook ... isn't it? Fabulous design, darling! Although, having said that, they look a bit plasticky to me ... but what do I know? I tend to think that people who drone on and on about 'design' are, generally speaking, wankers ... |
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24 Jan 07 - 05:16 PM (#1947033) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: McGrath of Harlow Would a Rastafarian use an "i-and-iPod"? |
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24 Jan 07 - 06:04 PM (#1947083) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Amos The fact is that Jobs revitalized a major corporation that was going down for the second time, brought it back to solvency, and injected some new and beautiful excitement into an industry sector populated by dull clone-mongers and grubby mass-production imitators with very little innovation in it. The fact is that he advanced the product line dramatically, re-defined the company's vision, re-wrote the music industry's map with iTunes and the iPod, and did it with a vision as good as any in the market place, both technically and aesthetically. I think his detractors are just jealous. He makes no claims to perfection in his person or his products but he keeps moving ahead and dreaming new directions up. Eat yer heart out. A |
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24 Jan 07 - 09:04 PM (#1947224) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: podman My cousin, a very nice bloke who has my love and respect, is a Mac enthusiast. He has taken his maclumps however, and likes to describe Apple as a company with just as much attitude as Microsoft, just without the market share. I am an EX-mac fan. Not so much because of the platform, but because of the poor treatment doled out by Apple the company in oh so many ways. And I was given a 40 GB iPOD and frankly couldn't stand it so had to give it away or toss it through a window. I now use a much less expensive SanDisk which comes with an FM radio to boot. Jobs should stand for his actions as should any other executive, and as Martha Stewart had to do. |
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24 Jan 07 - 09:17 PM (#1947228) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Amos I doubt he has much problem doing that. Sorry about the iPod. I enjoy mine a lot. A |
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24 Jan 07 - 09:55 PM (#1947254) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST Yeah, the stock option thing reassures me I'm not just jealous of Jobs. He really is a sleeze. |
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24 Jan 07 - 10:21 PM (#1947261) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Rapparee Oh, computers. And I thought this thread was about work. You know, folks who make a religion out of their jobs. I try to avoid that by not doing anything when I go to work. |
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24 Jan 07 - 10:57 PM (#1947278) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Bee-dubya-ell Hell, I thought it was about a buncha guys with failed crops, dead cattle and boils. |
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25 Jan 07 - 01:34 AM (#1947324) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST With all of the Apple firmware updates installed, this laptop may not become too hot to touch, nevertheless I'll go light on the Job jokes. |
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25 Jan 07 - 10:34 AM (#1947611) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Scrump Yeah, I think jobs are overrated. Best to live on the dole, a lot less hassle. ...ah ...see what yer mean... ...I'll get me coat. |
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26 Jan 07 - 04:55 PM (#1949071) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Amos From a list correspondent: "To put this discussion in some perspective, I recently talked to the CTO of a well known AV company. I asked him how many virus/malware he was aware of by platform type. He told me: Win32 200,000 MacOS 4 Linux 300 Symbian 341 FreeBSD 0 This is different from the number of known vulnerabilities, but still interesting." A |
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26 Jan 07 - 06:53 PM (#1949187) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: Captain Ginger Hell, man, that's because those Macintosh-using faggots are so busy being lily-livered, whey-faced,commode-hugging,liberal pansy wieners that they got no gaddam time to write viruses! For real viruses you need a real man's OS! |
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26 Jan 07 - 07:12 PM (#1949202) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST,Commander Mary-Ann Farking right, Ginger! Want to play it safe and boring? Get a Mac! Want adventure, thrills and chills? Get a PC. More coconut cream pie? |
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26 Jan 07 - 07:31 PM (#1949221) Subject: RE: BS: The Cult of Jobs From: GUEST We went Mac mainly because it is reported to be easier to use out of the box. A manual worthy of the name would have helped. Oh, you can find some instructions pre-loaded and more on line, but Catch-22. |