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27 Jan 07 - 02:04 PM (#1949796) Subject: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Slag Today's question is "Are you a neat and tidy persons or a messy slob like myself (didn't used to be)?" If you are messy is your mess still organized as far as you are concerned? And most important does your mate share your standards? |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:16 PM (#1949805) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: David C. Carter Yes,to the second half of 1st question. Yes, to second question. NO!To last question. David |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:19 PM (#1949809) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: ranger1 Yes, yes and no. |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:20 PM (#1949810) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mrrzy Messy I can find things as long as someone doesn't move them without my ken Non applicable |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:22 PM (#1949814) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST,JTT Generally neat. Used not to be. In fact photos of my last house look as if a particularly vindictive hurricane has struck. But nowadays I feel that having things tidy and beautiful gives a sense of serenity. |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:26 PM (#1949819) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: LilyFestre Work environment, anally neat and organized Home: lived in (dust & clutter) My husband is a-ok with our home. If he isn't, he sure knows where to find the broom and dust cloth! ;) Michelle |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:37 PM (#1949824) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Alec Fluctuate between the 2 positions,My mess is usually organised (Someone tidying can cause chaos)Herself is extremely tidy. |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:39 PM (#1949826) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: jacqui.c Tend toward messy but I know where most things are. Kendall is of the same inclination IMHO. |
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27 Jan 07 - 02:57 PM (#1949833) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bee-dubya-ell Judge for yourself... |
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27 Jan 07 - 03:04 PM (#1949841) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Metchosin Messy, although I usually know where things are.......and no, my mate doesn't share my limited standards.....he's worse. A friend once commented that if things were neat as a pin in a household, it meant that there was "absolutely nothing going on" in the larger philosophical sense. I use that to soothe my guilty conscience on occasion. |
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27 Jan 07 - 03:37 PM (#1949876) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: SINSULL But Kendall never knows where anything is. I hold regular Song Circles to force me to clean. I tend towards chaos. My roomies don't even care if the litter box is clean. |
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27 Jan 07 - 04:51 PM (#1949926) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: gnomad Decidedly messy at home, and I'm a hoarder, but I know where things are. Everyone keeps the power sander on the bathroom windowsill, don't they? At work I can honestly say that numerous people have said they can't believe how tidy I keep things. I live alone, but my mates think I live in a tip. |
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27 Jan 07 - 06:28 PM (#1949983) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: number 6 Neat .... though my wife would argue that. biLL |
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27 Jan 07 - 07:02 PM (#1949997) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST,Scoville at Dad;s Organized messy. |
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27 Jan 07 - 07:03 PM (#1949998) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Liz the Squeak Organized chaos best describes me. I can live in a tip for about 3 weeks and then I have a good rootle round and clear up. I know instantly when someone else has been using my desk at work because the stapler will be out of place, or my pens put back the wrong way round. LTS |
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27 Jan 07 - 07:16 PM (#1950008) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Slag I have two rooms to myself and it takes a sherpa to get through if I'm not around. It's a quasi- (crazy-) museum as I too, collect, a, many things! I don't know!!! Call them memory adies. And I know where everything is (except for that certain something for which I am looking!). My lady fair is antiseptically neat and clean and I toe the line in her regions. She shudders at the thought of mine. Like most things, its complex but lassitude DOES play a role as does a certain degree of insecurity, I suppose. If the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, I'm your asphalt man! Some day. Some day. |
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27 Jan 07 - 10:31 PM (#1950100) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bee Progressive, from neat to horrifying: kitchen, living room, mudroom, bathroom, guest/computer room, bedroom, studio. Studio is a toxic disaster zone until a big job comes in, then it gets organised. Mate, so-so. |
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27 Jan 07 - 11:32 PM (#1950114) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bill D You can't keep as many things as some of us...(like me) and stay really 'clean'...We sometimes host sings and house concerts, and I 'can' make the joint pretty acceptable in a day or so...but there are hidden piles you wouldn't believe! I save & accumulate many things....sometimes they fall over & leak out of their holes. |
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28 Jan 07 - 04:07 AM (#1950181) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Hrothgar Messy, no, no My attitude to spring cleaning is "What, every spring?" |
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28 Jan 07 - 06:24 AM (#1950226) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Sandra in Sydney mine might look messy, but I know where everything is. Mostly Immediately my guest left this afternoon, stuff moved back to the places on the floor where it normally lives. last question not applicable sandra |
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28 Jan 07 - 07:00 AM (#1950234) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST,Liz the Squeak sans cookie I find it strange that Manitas seems incapable of putting things back neatly in a drawer. An example is the plastic storage containers we use. I can fit them neatly into their drawer with only one or two left out, but Manitas can't seem to get them in. Consequently, I go round the kitchen every other week or so and put them all away properly. And I too, am a pile hoarder. You wouldn't believe the stuff I have squirrelled away in piles and under tables! LTS |
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28 Jan 07 - 10:47 AM (#1950373) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bee I am She Who Knows Where Eveything Got Put, so I spend a fair amount of time getting stuff for The Man Who Just Remembered He Needs Something that got put away last spring. Example: he has about ten pairs of gloves/mitts, but today he wanted That Pair - the only ones I'd left in the odds box in the (totally stuffed) storage closet. |
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28 Jan 07 - 03:42 PM (#1950635) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bunnahabhain Are you a neat and tidy persons or a messy slob Fairly tidy, given stuff/space ratio. If you are messy is your mess still organized as far as you are concerned? Yes, very organised given above bounds. I know where things are. And most important does your mate share your standards? She accuses me of obsessive tidying, as I pick up enough of her stuff to find the floor occasionally... |
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28 Jan 07 - 05:00 PM (#1950684) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: kendall I take the 5th on this one. After I finish that, I don't give a rats ass if the place is cluttered or not. |
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28 Jan 07 - 05:01 PM (#1950688) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Tinker Semi organized chaos. I "see" new life for things I put away for when I find the time to transform them... unfortunately that time seems to be far away... I live with a pile horder as well. We can get to passable when company comes, but drop in unexpected and anything goes..... |
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28 Jan 07 - 05:10 PM (#1950697) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Rapparee Maybe. |
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28 Jan 07 - 05:16 PM (#1950703) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Becca72 definitely messy, but I live alone so it's only me who has to worry about it. |
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29 Jan 07 - 11:57 AM (#1951311) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST I keep my front step very tidy based on the theory that more folk pass by than come in. |
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29 Jan 07 - 12:49 PM (#1951366) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Catherine Jayne I come under the organised caos theory too, although I seem to be getting alot better. Moved into a new home in December and there's alot still in boxes while we decorate and have the new carpets fitted but on the whole we've kept the place pretty tidy. Now I suppose that will all change in a few months with baby toys and stuff! |
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29 Jan 07 - 01:02 PM (#1951385) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg Neat or Messy? I'm not an Either-Or girl; I'm an And/And girl. So YES, as best suits my time, my resources, and my situation. I think my BEST organizing trick is to never organize papers that are in current use except to binderize them when they get bulky enough to need something to keep them together, like I just binderized our insurance matters. Till that time comes, it's mere pile-making time. For most of the paper that accumulates, I have learned that I will actually not know how I should organize them (what to keep/pitch), till long after. So I have a box-of-the-year out back in our storage area waiting to catch, at all times. As the house looks too messy, and as I finish projects that use those piles, I take the paper piles out there. They accumulate out there in a simple reverse-chronological order, most recent on top. When THAT pile is box-ful sized, I'll organize/purge all of that, label the box with the time span and subjects covered, and add it to the pile of labeled file boxes. I will NOT worry about how much more to organize it, till we move again. At that time I will go through all the year-boxes created since the last move, organize/purge them down to a smaller number, and take them along. I use that old stuff more frequently that I might have predicted, as old projects become new "work-product" samples for positions I'm interested in or new projects I take on. It isn't used often enough to warrant a full court press on filing, but it IS used often enough to hang onto it. The oldest ones are the most-purged, by now, but I have a hardcopy of everything I've ever created and every resource I've ever liked; I purge the older ones when we move, once we unpack, as a rainy-day project. I've been know to hire a teen helper to tote purged items to the trash heap and to carry the boxes to quick-sort, re-label, and re-stack. Newest boxes are on top; the boxes are stacked in rows I can access so that at no time do I need to get a box out from under more boxes than I can manage to move, by myself. The stacks are tidy; they look like rows of file cabinets. Boxes of books resourcing those time periods' interests are in there, too, once they are no longer needed in my "current" library. I purge the digital media of it as time and media change-- the DOS digital files are gone for example, but the hardcopy remains, scannable for text. Next time we move, Windows 3.1 files on floppies will go-- I already copied forward anything really important onto the hard disk and that's backed up too. And I always know where to immediately grab for whatever I was most recently working on, in case we have a fire or something (as we did once). ~Susan |
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29 Jan 07 - 01:11 PM (#1951395) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST,maire-aine I'd be inclined to use the word "cluttered" rather than "messy". I keep way too much paper-- newspaper articles, recipes, etc., and I don't have anyplace to organize them. I've just boxed up my holiday decorations, but the boxes are in the middle of the floor in my spare bedroom. I have sheet music and song lyrics in piles all around the room, too. And my dining room table is the place where everything waits, until I find space for it. Maryanne |
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29 Jan 07 - 01:49 PM (#1951428) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mrs.Duck As I stare at the square foot of carpet visible under the piles of shoes, boxes, toys, clothes and miscellaneous rubbish I think I'm a neat person who lies a lot! |
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29 Jan 07 - 01:52 PM (#1951433) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: gnu I also live alone. I WOULD like to keep things neat and clean, but I find this a good excuse to keep company away. "I'd invite youse over, but, the place is such a mess I'd be embarrsed." Hey, it works. Especially in the workshop. Friends and relatives used to come over and use my shop and tools. Not anymore. It's too clutterd and it almost seems as if someone had hidden tools and parts. And, the box of my truck is kept disgusting. Old rotten leaves and branches and whatever the wind blows in. And, at this time of year, ice and snow. Haven't had to move anyone or save them the $10 delivery charge on the new stove or fridge or whatever for ages. Their is a method to my messness. |
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29 Jan 07 - 01:58 PM (#1951435) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: number 6 Hey gnu .... do you park your truck out on our street ... if so which one ?!?! biLL |
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29 Jan 07 - 02:02 PM (#1951439) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bernard Yes, yes and 'not applicable'! At least I know things are exactly where I left them...! If only I could remember where... |
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29 Jan 07 - 02:46 PM (#1951484) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bill D "Everything must be somewhere..." Alfred North Whitehead - Process and Reality P.73 ...then he goes on at interminable length to explain just where 'where' might be. I read this in 1968, and have had trouble finding stuff ever since. |
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29 Jan 07 - 03:14 PM (#1951518) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Slag CatsPHiddle, good job! Maybe LIFE will spontaneously appear! don't give up. Good point WYSIWYG. And yet clutter makes it harder to get the dirt up (I've decided to take up gardening after all!) and it becomes that Self-Organized Chaos stuff. LIFE will appear! I keep telling her it's a "work in progress"! Very, very slow progress. |
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29 Jan 07 - 03:33 PM (#1951530) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: gnu sIx.... it's the Chevy. Go ahead. Throw anything you want in the box. |
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31 Jan 07 - 10:32 AM (#1953532) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST messy.....I try so hard to be tidy but it just never works. Congrats Khatt..lots of poly boxes for the baby toys |
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31 Jan 07 - 10:50 AM (#1953552) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Scrump Messy, but part of the reason for that is lack of time. I have piles of paper that accumulates and needs to be filed, sorted etc., but there's always something more important to do (like falling asleep in front of the TV :-)) Every now and again, I get in the right mood and have a big tidy up, even though sometimes a pile of unsorted stuff just gets shoved somewhere else, out of the way. |
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31 Jan 07 - 11:04 AM (#1953560) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bernard That's what Asda bags were made for!! |
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31 Jan 07 - 11:11 AM (#1953567) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Scrump What do you think I use them for Bernard? :-) (I prefer Booth's ones, more classy ;-)) |
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31 Jan 07 - 12:17 PM (#1953644) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Grab To quote Bill Bryson:- "I only ever knew one really tidy journalist, and he was eventually arrested for molesting small boys." My problem isn't so much that I'm untidy, it's that I do things on *my* timescale, and that doesn't always involve putting them away immediately. Also that being an engineer, I'm a compulsive pack-rat - I've yet to find an engineer or anyone who does any kind of manual work who isn't. Graham. |
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31 Jan 07 - 02:24 PM (#1953757) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bernard Yup - I tidy up on a 'need to know' basis... if I need to know where something is, I'll tidy up until I find it! |
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31 Jan 07 - 10:12 PM (#1954176) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Peace S'all I'm gonna say about it. |
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27 May 07 - 07:41 AM (#2061767) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg I mentioned binderizing, upthread. I'm doing this more and more these days. The fat insurance binder now has sections for medical, dental, vision, etc., and subsectios for bills and insurance notifications coming and going. A similar one for tax returns and pension-tracking notices is shaping up. The one I really like though-- Next to the recliner now sits the "Current" binder. No tabs, no sections, just a slim (recycled of course) binder where anything of current interest is easily hole-punched and inserted and held till no longer of interest. Since December, for example, it's been hockey stuff-- team rosters and the NHL collective barganing agreement-- to browse or refer to during games on TV. A proofreading copy of our band's timeline/history was in there for awhile; fitness articles printed from online to share with Hardi; recipes in mid-refinement to scribble notes after a bulk-cooking effort. Example: a low-cal, hi-protein breakfast casserole that no longer resembles the hi-fat, really yummy one we serve guests at Mudcat weekends. Sixteen serving-size recipe with nutrition analysis all calculatedm, in I think 4 flavor varieties. Takes about ten minutes now to whip one up for an hour's oven baking. No more excuses for bad or skipped brekkies-- from freezer to microwave to plate, zap! Portion control, the whole deal. Anyway, this "Current" binder is sort of a personal magazine kept always current and purged often, since it's very narrow, maybe 3/4 inch and doesn't hold more than a body can pay attention to. ~Susan |
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27 May 07 - 11:29 AM (#2061838) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Ron Davies I figure if I know where things are that's what counts. Others might say--and have said--that other factors should be considered. But as of now, that's honored in the breach. |
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27 May 07 - 07:06 PM (#2062032) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mickey191 I'm incredibly neat-but then the damn bears come in & mess the place up! What to do? |
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27 May 07 - 08:47 PM (#2062097) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Liz the Squeak It's those bloody cable fairies that get my goat.... I put cables in neat rounds in a drawer or on a table and the next morning or when I go to that drawer again, some cable fairy has been knitting with them. Bloody cable fairies!!! LTS |
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28 May 07 - 01:43 AM (#2062216) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: JennieG I can live with clutter. However we are planning to move from this house in a couple of years - and we have been living here for 20 years. So there will have to be the grandfather and grandmother of all clean-ups. Not looking forward to it at all........ Cheers JennieG |
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28 May 07 - 04:09 AM (#2062243) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: JohnInKansas I find it sufficient to keep a neat and orderly mind, within which I keep the locations of everything important. The system works except when someone decides to "help" by "straightening things up." I have been working on the paperwork clutter by scanning everything and shredding originals that might be of value/interest but don't actually require hard copy. (Note to self: I really need a faster scanner with a document feed.) Now if I could just find a place where the stack of 347 CDs with the scans on them won't get tipped over and scattered everytime we have a 1guest in the house or when one of the cats decides to play... 1 Someone always decides to be helpful and "clean up" when guests are expected. My partner is perfectly compatible: "You don't have to mop the floor if you can't see it." "Hairballs only require removal when they start to growl at you, or when they actually leap out to trip you." "But dear, I'll need it John |
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28 May 07 - 04:27 AM (#2062248) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bainbo And most important does your mate share your standards? Mate? I'm sure I had one here somewhere. Is she under the ... nope. Behind here? Err ... Give me a while. I'll get back to you. |
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28 May 07 - 09:02 AM (#2062321) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg stack of 347 CDs At the Dollar General they had CD albums one day VERY cheap, big ones to hold a lot, for $5. You also can get binder inserts with 4 CD pockets each (2 front, 2 back) via your office supply catalog, and use a regular binder. The binders do get awful heavy, though. Me, I just put my archive CDs back on the empty spindles and label the whole pakage with a Sharpie. ~Susan |
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28 May 07 - 12:40 PM (#2062445) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mickey191 When Jim was here and the week-end was new on Fridays everything was neat & spotless. Sat. things started to drift-Sunday went like this: Newspapers, crossword puzzles, mussed bed & dishes here and there. We had an agreement that anyone at anytime could call out "10 minute break!" Each was bound to stop whatever we were doing & fly thru the house & clean up the mess. Regardless of who did it-there was no talking allowed - ergo No Blame could be assigned. We went like whirling dervishes-truly. The dog thought we were nuts! But it was fun & Monday when we came home it was grand! Nice memory. |
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29 May 07 - 01:09 AM (#2062840) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Gurney Slag, having chosen a pen-name like yours, you are obviously aware that there are some jobs that you simply aren't doing RIGHT unless you get messy. Sticky, anyway. |
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29 May 07 - 05:17 AM (#2062966) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: redsnapper Unashamedly................neat! (It's an obsessive-compulsive thing) RS |
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29 May 07 - 08:42 AM (#2063057) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mrs.Duck I like my CDs in alphabetical order, my books arranged by size, the childrens toys in labelled boxes, all letters filed by date with the latest at the rear and all the cups on the hooks facing in the right (not left) direction. Meanwhile back in the real world.......... |
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29 May 07 - 02:26 PM (#2063329) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mrrzy Messy. *I* can usually find things, though nobody else can. Single. |
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30 May 07 - 08:28 AM (#2063944) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Mr Yellow neat and tidy are distinct if you can find it it is tidy if it looks pretty it is neat. and you can't find it - what is the point of neat? |
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04 Jun 07 - 10:49 AM (#2068163) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg Wow........ new binders...... Various suppliers make a tear-proof poly binder that can be gotten very cheap in bulk. All-poly, not poly wrapped over cardboard. Cheap binders-- I think we paid less than a dollar each at the time we got them. We'd had similar ones for band arrangements way back when we started; I've re-used them over and over and no ring failures. Anyway, they are very easy to cut down as CD albums, into which go C-Line products' #61958 hole-punched sheets which each hold 4 CDs and liner booklets. I think they were about $5 a pack when we got them as a box of 10-packs. Each binder will hold 10-12 sheets filled with CDs. So these are good, sturdy, cheap CD albums almost as cheap as the Dollar General ones I wished I'd gotten in bulk whle they had them. Unlike the premade CD albums, it's easy to re-organize/re-alphabetize, because you can swap in or out whole sheets as needed. So I am a ways off from needing an external hard drive for more memory-- by the time I fill these, the smaller drives I can use should be almost on giveaway pricing as the bigger ones come to the fore of the market. I can "archive" current projects off into these binders. As projects become inactive, I can put the CDs on the leftover spindles and re-use the binders for new work. ~S~ |
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21 Jun 07 - 09:20 AM (#2083022) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg Now I've done it-- I wanted a bulletin board at the pool I use, to put up aquatics info I often refer to when working with newbies. Then I realized that inviting someone to get out of the water to go see a an item, then get back in to resume discussion or try techniques-- a clumsy process at best! "Gee, I wish I could use a binder in the water!" So I took a cheap binder and made a foam cover out of a 1/2" camping pad, and laminated the pages I inserted. I insert new pages as needed and I can take out the page someone may use to guide a workout (diagrams, etc.), for them to take over to the part of the pool they'll use. The metal binder rings will rust eventually, but that won't be a problem. My office is now in the pool, not just AT the pool. Yesterday I made a large-print page that diagrams the controls of the spare (waterproof) MP3 player I lend folks-- all set up with the music their particular workout calls for. The net effect of all this is that I can respond to folks' help requests without interrupting my own workout, and without getting entangled with a lot of non-productive conversation to interfere with their workout, or mine. And material only goes in there when something emerges as a Frequently Asked Question. I also can email binder pages to folks as attachments. How to exchange email addy's to facilitate this? I laminated a pageful of address labels that contain my name and email address. Cut up, they make nice small, waterproof business cards. There's a pile of 'em tucked in my MP3 case. Oh yeah, the case..... the newer MP3 player came supplied with a cheesy little drawstring bag? I lined an unused plastic VHS case with more of the blue camping foam, and cut out compartments to hold the player and the headphones. Padding, plus flotation. All that's missing is the waterproof notepad and pen-- thats' next. ~Susan |
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21 Jun 07 - 09:27 AM (#2083029) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: beardedbruce WYSIWYG, One can get all plastic 3 ring binders now, with teflon "rings" ( anchored at one end) that are completely water-proof. And, using a laser printer, one can print on plastic sheet ( I have used transparancies, but I presume they make transluscent and opaque as well) for a totally waterproof, usable underwater notebook. 8-{E |
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21 Jun 07 - 09:32 AM (#2083036) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T MESSY! I can point to the exact square inch of floor which contains whatever I may be looking for..... ......Until my better half follows her usual procedure of gathering it all into a carrier bag and hiding it God knows where. AAAAARGGHHHHH! Don T. |
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21 Jun 07 - 09:49 AM (#2083048) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg ...all plastic 3 ring binders now, with teflon "rings" ( anchored at one end) that are completely water-proof. And, using a laser printer, one can print on plastic sheet... Thanks. Here in rural America, I haven't found these yet, but I've been keeping an eye out. I need a laminator anyway, so that may come first. In a way, the cost of laminating helps keep a lid on the number of pages I create-- I could so easily fill a whole shelf with aquatics info!-- since I only want the real essentials in the binder. :~) ~Susan |
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21 Jun 07 - 09:52 AM (#2083050) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: beardedbruce The problem is DElamination. They are made to be water resistant, but constant soaking will get INSIDE and disolve ink, esp. with pool ( clorinated) water. Staples or a business supply catalog should have them. And use the money you save for better porpoises... |
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21 Jun 07 - 10:16 AM (#2083068) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg My inkjet printer's results will probably prove less than permanent too-- water is said to be the most powerful solvent on earth, over time. ~S~ |
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21 Jun 07 - 10:35 AM (#2083084) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: beardedbruce I have spare LaserJet 4 printers... Inkjets WILL have the print disolve/smear- it takes the thermal "sealing" of the laser printer to make it (more) permanant. But laser print on transparancy plastic has been soaked ( don't ask) in various fluids* without problem, and then washed off and used. * I would not suggest anything that disolved the PLASTIC, however. |
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21 Jun 07 - 10:58 AM (#2083109) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg You want to donate me a printer to support my charity efforts? ~S~ |
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21 Jun 07 - 11:03 AM (#2083120) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: beardedbruce When can you pick it up? I'll need to find you a cartridge... |
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21 Jun 07 - 02:10 PM (#2083265) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg PM sent. ~S~ |
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22 Jun 07 - 06:49 AM (#2083856) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: mouldy Mrs Duck has been to my house and seen it tidy (organised chaos theory). In my head I do want to be tidy, but brain to hand connection, she get severed! I am also intrinsically lazy. At the moment I am using the following excuses: Still sorting out after losing Ian; having work done on the house; am going to declutter antiques soon and put some up for auction, but I haven't had time; my heart's not into it yet; the dishwasher's full; it's too humid to iron; this dog is constantly shedding; I'd rather be in the garden; I'll do it next week; the world's not going to end if I don't... I had a man playing about with my flue yesterday evening, and now I keep getting soot on the hearth. House smells lovely. Andrea (sitting at an old desk which is to be replaced any day now by the half built one). |
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22 Jun 07 - 05:18 PM (#2084389) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: SharonA "Are you a neat and tidy persons or a messy slob like myself (didn't used to be)?" Neither. I'm a messy slob and I always used to be! In my late teens through my thirties, I used to clean up the mess and organize things (i.e. beat back the things as they encroached upon the free space). "If you are messy is your mess still organized as far as you are concerned?" Not anymore. When I was in my forties I lost several older relatives including my parents, and some of their stuff got added to my stuff, and I added more stuff on my own, so now I'm fairly drowning in stuff. I can't find my stuff because there's too much stuff in the way. I find it difficult to sort through stuff because there's no place to pile the sorted stuff that isn't already covered with unsorted stuff. "And most important[ly] does your mate share your standards?" No mate at present, but I recall two former live-in man-friends (not living with me together at the same time!) who complained repeatedly about my standards while exhibiting less-than-neat behaviors of their own which only contributed to the messiness. Looking back, I think that they had believed in the stereotype that a woman "should" be the neat, organized one who picks up after the man, and that any man who is "too" neat is too effeminate (a Felix Unger type). But I am a female Oscar Madison type, still searching for a man who's proud to be a Felix! |
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22 Jun 07 - 07:46 PM (#2084496) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: John Hardly I prefer neat and if I lived alone, I'd probably get it. I live with someone who can only tolerate spotlessly clean -- sterile, even. But since she cannot attain that goal, she sacrifices "good" at the altar of "best", and we rarely ever even have things straightened up and neat. |
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22 Jun 07 - 08:50 PM (#2084523) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: Bee-dubya-ell When it gets to the point where I can't find my car keys, wallet, or checkbook, it's time to straighten the place up. Anything else I can probably do without until it turns up of its own accord. |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:25 AM (#2134513) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: wysiwyg What a great summer it's been for getting rid of stuff and for assigning places to things BEFORE they pile up. I carried bags and bags of gently-used linens, gently-used CDs, and old dresses-cut-down-to-skirts into my house. I went through casual clothes in the house and camper. I bought some new clothes. Here's what I learned about managing all the STUFF. Clothes and Linens: Does this item belong in the main closet (new), the drawer out in the camper (stained but serviceable), in the thrift shop pile (worn but serviceable), or the trash? It's a constant FLOW. Move each item down the line-- don't plan on keeping it forever when it's been bought. Look forward to enjoying it for a time, and then passing it down the pipeline. Result-- opening up the camper each year to find old favorites I haven't seen all year, waiting for me to enjoy a few more times and pitch as other items replace them in coming years. CDs (bought cheap, used): Is this an artist whose work I know? Pay up to $3. Never heard of them, but looks intersting? Pay up to $1.50. Back home or in the car-- is this potential music to keep? Rip it to MP3 and store it in the external drive. Is it potential workout music? Use software to estimate BPMs and add BPM to filename. Copy usable workout items to this year's folders on C drive, sorted by BPM for different times of the year's workout season. Is it good listening music? If so put it out in the car for car tunes. If not, put it in the thrift shop pile. When car tune CDs pile up in the car, put them in the thrift shop pile. Since any CD worth using has already been ripped to MP3, any CD I am tired of is fair game tro pass along. It's a FLOW. STUFF Stuff and stuff, it's just a flow. Love it some, then let it go. There will be more before you know! ~S~ |
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27 Aug 07 - 06:47 PM (#2134876) Subject: RE: BS: Neat or Messy? From: GUEST,rock chick without any shadow of a doubt I am neat, cant stand clutter, there is a place for everything which makes life a lot easier when lokking for things. |
