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22 Mar 99 - 09:29 PM (#65149) Subject: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Please help me findthe origin of this song. Who wrote it? Or who recorded it? Lyrics? I remember it well but thewords have faded into old age please e-mail me alley246@aol.com Than |
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22 Mar 99 - 09:44 PM (#65152) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Mark Roffe The Shirelle's popular version of the 60's was based on the original. Although I can't remember much about the original, the Shirelle's version went (phonetically): Hey now, hey now, ako ako anday. Chockamo fino an an day, chocamo fin anday. See the man all dressed in green, ako ako anday. He's not a man, he's a rubbing machine, chocamo fin anday. Hey now...etc... I once knew them all...if no one else comes up with them, I'll dredge them out of my quagmire mind. Mark |
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22 Mar 99 - 10:47 PM (#65165) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Ronn The origins of this song go back way before the recording era to around the same time as the origin of the Mardi Gras Indians. The song most like the one we know today was originally recorded by Sugar Boy Crawford as "Jock-a-mo" in 1953. The first version to enter popular consciousness was by The Dixie Cups around 1965 (revived by the movie "Rain Man"). My own personal favourite is Dr John's from around 1972. |
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23 Mar 99 - 02:05 AM (#65207) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: alison Hi, It was redone in the 70's (punkish band).. in the UK,... can't remeber the name but possibly Bow wow wow..... think they also did "I want candy". slainte alison |
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23 Mar 99 - 02:49 AM (#65213) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Brian Hoskin It wasn't Bow Wow Wow, it was Amazulu - not that that matters, go with Dr John! Brian |
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23 Mar 99 - 08:51 AM (#65265) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: alison Ah yes..... it's all coming back to me now.... slainte alison |
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23 Mar 99 - 11:35 AM (#65318) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: mkaye It was also a staple for a while in Grateful Dead live performances in the late 70's to early 80's time frame. Don't think it made it onto anything other than bootlegs (although it could be included in one of the Dick's Picks series). |
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23 Mar 99 - 02:45 PM (#65379) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Jerry Friedman If you're searching for it somewhere, the title I know is "Iko Iko". |
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10 Apr 99 - 06:45 PM (#69792) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Joe Offer Click here and here for versions from Lyrics World. -Joe Offer- |
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11 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM (#255908) Subject: ADD: Iko Iko From: Joe Offer Iko-Iko (Marilyn Jones, Sharon Jones, Joe Jones, Jessie Thomas, 1965) (Recorded by The Dixie Cups ) My grandma and your grandma were sittin' by the fire My grandma told your grandma: "I'm gonna set your flag on fire" Talkin' 'bout, Hey now! Hey now! I-KO I-KO un-day Jock-a-mo fee-no ai na-ne Jock-a-mo fee-na-ne Look at my king all dressed in red , I-KO I-KO un-day I betcha five dollars he'll kill you dead Jock-a-mo fee-na-ne (chorus) = My flag boy and your flag boy were sittin' by the fire My flagboy told your flagboy: "I'm gonna set your flag on fire" (chorus) See that guy all dressed in green? I-KO I-KO un-day He's not a man, he's a lovin' machine Jock-a-mo fee-na-ne (chorus) = |
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11 Jul 00 - 09:28 PM (#256087) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Gary T I've always liked this song, but have no clue as to what, if anything, it means. Anyone know what kind of flag we're talking about? What's a flag boy? Is there any significance to the king, or is it just a variation of "man"? And "iko iko", "jock-a-mo", etc.--nonsense syllables? Gullah? A distortion of Gullah or of some other language? If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd be grateful. |
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11 Jul 00 - 09:42 PM (#256099) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Bob Bolton G'day all, I recently heard an episode of the (Australian) ABC Music program where the presenter had gone to New Orleans for a Festival and had recorded a number of interesting interviews - including one with a lady from the Dixie Cups. She talked at length about this song ... the gist of it was that this was something they did with a family song (from her mother?) and they where mucking around with an a cappella version where they did a lot of instrument imitations while the band was taking a break. The record producer heard it, loved it and got them to put it down on the record. I gather the "Indians" references all go back to a period of New Orleans history when the displaced AmerIndians and the black population ahd much more in common that with the whites and customs (and Voodoo religious beliefs) mingled and reformed. I don't imagine our presenter came up with anything not already known about the traps, but it was interesting to learn something about this enigmatic song. Regards, Bob bolton Regards, Bob Bolton |
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13 Aug 01 - 07:36 PM (#527180) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: jeanenepratt I think the PBS program said it was in the Gullah street language. |
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13 Aug 01 - 09:38 PM (#527305) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) I've heard that it was taunting between tribes. Rich |
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13 Aug 01 - 10:46 PM (#527353) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Mark Cohen Apparently somebody just refreshed this thread, which has a wealth of information on the song. There are a few more threads kicking around as well. I don't think we'll ever resolve the issue of how to get people to search to see if their question has been answered on a previous thread, or even, as has been recently brought up as a minority opinion, whether we should encourage that at all. (The feeling expressed was that refreshing long threads tends to encourage people to post redundant info because they don't want to read the whole long thread). This will no doubt continue to be one of the unavoidable bumps on the byways of Mudcat. And that's fine with me. Aloha, Mark |
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13 Aug 01 - 10:59 PM (#527362) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Mark Cohen oops, my link went to the middle of the thread...but you get the idea. |
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14 Aug 01 - 04:32 PM (#528019) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: LR Mole I don't knowe about "Rain Man", but it was used in the film "The Big Easy". Maybe over the credits. |
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14 Aug 01 - 04:49 PM (#528034) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,Toledo I'm sorry, but every time I read this thread title, I don't hear the Iko, Iko version... I hear "Hey now, hey now, don't dream it's over..." Now what the hell song is THAT? I don't remember it, just that one bit... |
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14 Aug 01 - 06:30 PM (#528127) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Richard Bridge On the Red Bird label. You could hear the cutter start on the lead-in. Also the bass guitar (or maybe double bass) was slightly out of tune. And was the "click- click" bones, woodblocks, or what? |
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15 Aug 01 - 01:07 AM (#528366) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Armen Tanzerian My "definitive" version would be by the Neville Brothers, who used to kill this song in live performance. Didn't they or the Meters ever record it? (I once tried to get "IKOIKO" put on a licence plate -- but somebody already had it. Dang.) |
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15 Aug 01 - 01:21 AM (#528371) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: RWilhelm Mardi Gras Indians, The Wild Tchoupitoulas, recorded "Brother John" with the help of the Meters and the Nevilles. The tune is the same and the words are very similar. |
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15 Aug 01 - 09:54 AM (#528459) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Peter T. Can the incomprehensible bits really be in Gullah? That would be amazing. I can't find any reference to it on the PBS Web Site. Any Gullah experts out there? yours, Peter T. |
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16 Aug 01 - 01:45 AM (#529006) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: JenEllen Nope, not Gullah/Geechee. Here's what the luverly Neville folks have to say: "The song was originally called 'Jockamo,' and it has a lot of Creole patois in it. Jockamo means 'jester' in the old myth. It is Mardi Gras music, and the Shaweez was one of many Mardi Gras groups who dressed up in far out Indian costumes and came on as Indian tribes. The tribes used to hang out on Claiborne Avenue and used to get juiced up there getting ready to perform and 'second line' in their own special style during Mardi Gras. That's dead and gone because there's a freeway where those grounds used to be. The tribes were like social clubs who lived all year for Mardi Gras, getting their costumes together. Many of them were musicians, gamblers, hustlers and pimps." More as found, ~J |
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16 Aug 01 - 08:53 AM (#529110) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Armen Tanzerian One of the better reviews I ever read of the great Neville brothers ended with "and if you don't like the Nevilles, well shock-a-mo feena hay". I had already taken that phrase to mean something like "go to hell", so it seemed really à-propos. |
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16 Aug 01 - 01:56 PM (#529420) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: JenEllen More of the stuff, and a book to look up:
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15 Dec 01 - 07:40 AM (#610302) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST Hey Guest Toledo, You're thinking of a song by the Australian group "Crowded House". Hey now, hey now Don't dream it's over Hey now, hey now When the world comes in They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win Dan |
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15 Dec 01 - 07:40 PM (#610682) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,Lyle You can download an MP3 copy of the song by the great, GREAT, FANTASTIC group, Marley's Ghost here http://www.cyberbites.com/marleys_ghost/mgmp3pcdos.html Lyle |
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16 Dec 01 - 10:00 AM (#610947) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: Rolfyboy6 The Wild Magnolias are one of the New Orleans Mardi Gras Indian 'tribes'. Here's a page on parades, spy boys, flag boys, and 'Hey pak-e way'. Satchmo.com: Running the streets of the Crescent City. Here's an intro to the costumes and customs of the Mardi Gras indian tribes Mardi Gras Indians of New Orleans A google search under Mardi Gras Indians will turn up more. |
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16 Dec 01 - 03:12 PM (#611112) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,Desdemona The Dead's version was usually spelled "Aiko Aiko", and I think I remember people saying it was Cajun in origin, but who knows? |
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16 Dec 01 - 04:31 PM (#611158) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,Bud It has a French flavor to it, but I understand France French and speak Canadian French, and I can make very little sense of it. If it was Cajun, I should be able to understand something. I suppose the Indian idea is accurate. |
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17 Dec 01 - 03:53 PM (#611807) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,prudentius Indian, French, Cajun, etc.? A someone said, the lyrics are originally in an French-based creole patois, not Cajun, but related to Haitian and Guadeloupe Creole. They're pretty obscure to most everyone today. The violent gang-banging associations of the Mardi Gras Indians are now de-emphasized, but the "flag-boy" and other elements of competition are still there, and meaning of "Too-way pockaway" is still clear, and might still incite a fight: it means "you are not equipped with testicles"/"you ain't got balls" -- tu es pas couille! |
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08 Jul 08 - 08:36 PM (#2384279) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,pj Iko Iko " is a much-covered New Orleans song that tells of a parade collision between two "tribes" of Mardi Gras Indians . The lyrics are derived from Indian chants and popular catchphrases. The song, under the original title " Jock-A-Mo ", was written in 1954 by James "Sugar Boy" Crawford in New Orleans , but has spread so widely that many people take it to be a much older folk song |
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06 Sep 08 - 08:13 AM (#2432523) Subject: RE: hey now hey now ico ico wanna ney what song? From: GUEST,Ya-Ya Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. My curiosity was really getting the best of me as to what this song means and you have answered that question quite well. Thanks to all! |