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04 Feb 07 - 03:44 PM (#1957667) Subject: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Girl Friday The McDonalds in Eltham, South East London seems to have had a makeover. Gone, is the red and yellow paint. It is now decorated externally with a rather more pleasant green. Instead of the nasty plastic seating, there are arm chairs. We know of no other McDonalds like it. Has anyone else seen one? |
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04 Feb 07 - 03:49 PM (#1957672) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Alec I know they have at least one branch in central York that has a very discrete & tasteful exterior. They can do it when they want to. Still behaved appallingly vis-a-vis McLibel though. |
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04 Feb 07 - 03:54 PM (#1957677) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Peace Fast Food Restaurants Three lies for the price of on. |
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04 Feb 07 - 03:56 PM (#1957681) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Peace e. |
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04 Feb 07 - 04:27 PM (#1957706) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Michael The one on Beverley Road, Hull, UK has closed through lack of custom!!!!!!!! Aparently they hoped to get business from the local secondary school and didn't.(Or not enough) It warms the cockles, so it does. Mike |
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04 Feb 07 - 04:36 PM (#1957715) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Liz the Squeak Little heartwarming story from the McD's in Oxford St, London. They employ a lad with Down's Syndrome as a general cleaning/table clearing guy. The manager had a chat with him at his revue and asked him if there's anything he wanted. His reply was that he'd always wanted to be a manager. The following week he went home to his parents so proudly sporting his new badge that stated that he was 'customer care manager'. They'd invented the post for him, no extra money or anything, but they'd made him a manager just to make him happy. LTS |
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04 Feb 07 - 04:40 PM (#1957724) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Jean(eanjay) That's sweet. |
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04 Feb 07 - 05:04 PM (#1957744) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: kendall It wasn't the corporate office that promoted the guy, it was a decent person who just worked there. For my part, even calling McDonald's a restaurant is false advertising! |
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04 Feb 07 - 05:09 PM (#1957746) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Rapparee No turkey, no seafood to talk about, no veggies, no decent dessert...and the list goes on. Of course, they DO buy all those potatoes from around here.... |
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04 Feb 07 - 05:34 PM (#1957767) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,ozchick In Australia we have "McCafe" which is McDonalds, but trendier - aimed for the Starbucks crowd. The coffee is actually quite good and the decor is much better than regular McDonalds. |
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04 Feb 07 - 05:37 PM (#1957770) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Sorcha It's 'food'??????? |
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04 Feb 07 - 05:52 PM (#1957783) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Liz the Squeak He's doing exactly the same job, clearing tables and mopping floors, but he's the customer care MANAGER. Sometimes one word can make a whole heap of difference. LTS |
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04 Feb 07 - 05:54 PM (#1957785) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Sorcha I'll suggest that we make Neal and Danny the Dish Managers or summat. Wonderful idea, IMO. |
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04 Feb 07 - 06:50 PM (#1957824) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: John O'L When thesbians discuss takeaways is it considered bad luck to mention the Scottish burger out loud? |
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04 Feb 07 - 07:03 PM (#1957831) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Girl Friday I used the term restaurant because they call them that. Comeon, own up, who hasn't used one? This is the first of my postings to generate so many messages in such a short time. Perhaps these new-look Mcs will become McCafes. The coffee has certainly improved! |
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04 Feb 07 - 07:23 PM (#1957841) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,LilyFestre There is a McDonalds near Cornell University that is done in hunter greens, deep shades of red and scenes of hunting dogs on the walls. I don't recall the chairs but did find it funny to see how they catered to the upscale, ivy league university crowd. LQF |
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04 Feb 07 - 07:50 PM (#1957861) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Rapparee The one thing that can be said about McDonald's is that there is a standard of quality that is worldwide. Not a particularily high standard, but a standard none the less. |
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04 Feb 07 - 07:52 PM (#1957865) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: RangerSteve Years ago there was one on 8th Ave. in New York City, just north of Penn Station, whose walls were covered in antique sheet music covers. |
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04 Feb 07 - 07:53 PM (#1957867) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: kendall I don't ever hope to be that hungry. |
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05 Feb 07 - 10:01 AM (#1957909) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: ragdall Last summer we ate in many resturants in Western Europe. Usually the occasions were recorded in digital images. This was the only place, during that trip, in which I was reprimanded for taking a photo inside a restaurant. World class dining, Gyor, Hungary. (Click on an image to see a larger version). You may notice that this McDonalds has a few features not seen in most McDonalds in North America, such as an Austrian pastry section. After the upsetting encounter with excitable staff when my camera flash was noticed, we decided not to eat here. I did however pay the ridiculously high price, 100 hft, to use the restroom. |
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05 Feb 07 - 12:02 PM (#1957976) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC There was a ghetto McDonald's in my old neighborhood that was redone to look sort of like a fifties diner. I never went inside, though, so I have no idea how thorough the makeover was. I don't care what it looks like, I just don't like eating there. Last time I did was probably eight months ago (the first time in a few years), and it gave me explosive diarrhea. |
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05 Feb 07 - 12:50 PM (#1958021) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Mrs.Duck When travelling by road we often choose to eat at McDonalds because we know that the standard and price will be the same wherever unlike the grossly overpriced stuff that motorway service stations want to offer us. No it isn't cordon bleu but it is tasty and the kids eat it without moaning and they will allow us to have a kids meal when we are not over hungry without insisting we are under 10 years old! |
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05 Feb 07 - 12:51 PM (#1958022) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Mr Fox Gillinham (Kent) McDonalds has been done out with armchars and such. The food is still bloody awful, though. |
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05 Feb 07 - 12:56 PM (#1958028) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Penny S. Is that the Eltham one in Eltham, or the Yorkshire Grey? Penny |
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05 Feb 07 - 01:26 PM (#1958051) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Girl Friday I understand that the Yorkshire Grey is/was on the South Circ. roundabout. This is the one on the junction of Well Hall Road/ElthamHigh Street. |
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05 Feb 07 - 01:47 PM (#1958078) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Mr Red I guess Turkey Twizzlers are off the menu |
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05 Feb 07 - 01:51 PM (#1958081) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Homeless I've not eaten at a McDonald's since 9th grade when my parents got divorced and my father no longer made decisions about where/what I ate. Over 25 years, and counting. There's too much food growing wild in any field for me to be willing to eat at McDonalds. I'd eat dandelion leaves and cattail roots first. |
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05 Feb 07 - 01:54 PM (#1958088) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,mg There is a nice one at the Centralia outlet mall that has a fireplace. mg |
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05 Feb 07 - 02:11 PM (#1958104) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Shaneo Would you like fries with that ? just give me the burger I asked for / Is that a big mack meal you want ? no just a big mack , no fries , no coke , no evening newspaper , no shakes , Ahhh , just forget it , I'm out of here |
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05 Feb 07 - 02:37 PM (#1958130) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: MBSLynne I've been in a McDonald's once in my life and that was over 20 years ago. I have never taken my children to one, despite their friends being taken regularly as a 'treat'. Richard was taken to one with a crowd of kids for a party when he was about six and loathed the food...won't go in one now even though he's old enough to choose for himself. Shady has been in one once as well, with a party. She has no desire to go again. I've obviously brought them up with the right attitude to 'proper' food! It's not just the food I don't like though, it's the whole ethos. Love Lynne |
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05 Feb 07 - 02:43 PM (#1958137) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Mr Red The last one I went into was with a pregnant neice! She is a food technologist! Uncles are so passé! I had a coffee! |
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05 Feb 07 - 02:45 PM (#1958141) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Mr Red the coffeé was passeéééééééééyuk |
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05 Feb 07 - 08:41 PM (#1958511) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: John O'L "The one thing that can be said about McDonald's is that there is a standard of quality that is worldwide." "...we know that the standard and price will be the same wherever..." Rapaire & Mrs. Duck, this is not a good thing. To provide this worldwide "standard", the McDonalds machine is redefining animal husbandry, packaging and marketing on a global scale, eliminating variety by replacing natural feeding with standardised production-line feed, all of which creates fabricated economic habits and expectations so that eventually nothing will be able to function but the McDonalds machine or that which it controls. I don't want to seem alarmist, but it's kinda, well, alarming. |
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05 Feb 07 - 08:49 PM (#1958515) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: fumblefingers I can't count the number of times I've been traveling and bustin' for a piss. I can always find a McDonalds for a place to pee. The bog entrance is always next to the side door. Easy in--east out. |
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05 Feb 07 - 09:17 PM (#1958536) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Greg B This always reminds me of folks who proclaim loudly, should you mention some nit of televised popular culture, 'Oh, we don't HAVE a TV!' One almost feels one should say 'oh, sorry, didn't realize that I was dealing with the uber class, I'll refrain from mentioning Tony Soprano or Father Ted going forward.' At least here in the US, McD's has made great strides. For one thing, they have what is probably the tastiest decaf coffee I've tasted in a long time. Indistinguishable from full caf, and both taste as good as Starbuck's. They've added some nice fun salads and fruit yogurt parfaits. But I have to admit an addiction to their hash browns, which are very similar to 'instant' potato latkes. Too bad they have no apple-sauce for them. The old Big Mac and similar slime is still there--- every couple of years I get a Big Mac Attack and the woozy feeling after having one reminds me of why it's a dumb idea. But the point is, you can eat well in the places. Oh---by the way, say what you will about 'corporate' and promotions, but most McD's are actually owned by individual entrepreneurs who purchase a franchise and tow the resulting line. So if they want to make the retarded kid a manager, they can. |
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05 Feb 07 - 10:17 PM (#1958572) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,LilyFestre I really like those little yogurt parfaits and also their iced tea! The coffee is good too...I prefer it to the over-priced, over burned cup of yuck found at Starbucks. And what the heck, I like their cheeseburgers too...I might get one once every three months or so. Considering the amount of business they do, I know I'm not alone in liking some of their stuff! LQF |
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05 Feb 07 - 10:33 PM (#1958580) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: John O'L We went to McDonalds on a recent holiday and I took the time to read what was on the side of the little bag the hash brown came in. I can't remember what it all was exactly, but it seemed that most of the ingredients were just there to colour the salt and hold it together in the right shape. |
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06 Feb 07 - 02:58 AM (#1958677) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: MBSLynne Greg B...it depends what you mean by "Eat well". It has nothing to do with whatever you mean by "uber class" and I don't think it's necessary to be snide about it. I don't like the food, and neither do my children. I don't like the "fast-food" ethos at all and nor do I like massive, international chains. I am not being pretentious as you seem to imply. These are my feelings. Who is Tony Sopranp? Love Lynne |
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06 Feb 07 - 05:09 AM (#1958753) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,ozchick Has anyone seen the movie "Super-size Me"? |
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06 Feb 07 - 05:10 AM (#1958754) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Wilfried Schaum "... it's the same the whole world over - isn't it a pretty shame?" I preferred Wendy's with its wonderful salad bar, but alas, you'll find it seldom in Germany now. |
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06 Feb 07 - 06:08 AM (#1958787) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Cats The one in Tavistock has closed own completely. Yes!!! One down , how many thousand to go? |
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06 Feb 07 - 06:13 AM (#1958794) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,ozchick Look at the ads down below...hehee..... we could all open up our own McDonalds' |
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06 Feb 07 - 06:33 AM (#1958808) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Grab Wouldn't touch Mickey D's with a bargepole. Burger King or KFC for me, thanks - I like my meat products to be mostly meat. Not too long back, someone publicised the fact (taken from Mickey D's own nutritional information, no less) that the burgers were 50% water. That's why you feel bloated after eating one, and half an hour later you're starving again. Graham. |
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06 Feb 07 - 07:25 AM (#1958828) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Captain Ginger KFC, where the chicken is intensively reared and treated dreadfully? Or Burger King, with levels of fat, sugar and salt in their burgers comparable to McD's? And whose beef is still intensively reared? I'm afraid I'll only eat meat that I've shot myself or bought from my local butcher, who knows exactly where it came from and how it was reared. For all their lip service to being healthy and green, all the junk food chains stink when it comes to the ethics. Eat well in such places? Don't make me bark! Frankly I'm astonished at finding so many people here admitting to eating such stuff - I thought an interest in folk and traditional music went hand in hand with a concern for ethical production and good husbandry, and a concern for one's own wellbeing and that of the planet. But maybe it does explain why so many people one sees at folk festivals are so overweight! |
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06 Feb 07 - 09:22 AM (#1958952) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC GUEST,ozchick posted: I thought the furor over the movie was hilarious and revealing, the way people scrambled to defend McDonald's and declare the movie "unscientific," when it was pretty obvious to anyone who isn't retarded that the point wasn't an actual EXPERIMENT, and he wasn't trying to PROVE anything. It was a stunt intended to make a point, and the McDonald's defenders (a few of whom went to great effort to eat healthy meals at McDonald's, completely missing the point of the movie) helped him make it more than they realized. |
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06 Feb 07 - 09:56 AM (#1958994) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Scrump I only ever go to McDonald's in desperation. The last time was about 6 years ago, when I was with my son and we had to get somewhere by a certain time. We passed a McD's and drove for miles trying to find an alternative - a pub, or anything. In the end we were running out of time and were forced to eat there. I disagree with the person who said they are all the same standard. Years ago, in the US, (when I was less discerning about where I ate) I found they varied greatly in quality between different branches. I quickly found which were the best ones to go to, and avoided the others. I preferred BK anyway :-) And I hate them here in the UK, because they are expensive for what you get, whereas in the US they work out around half the UK price. As for KFC, they're even worse, IME. Years ago a bunch of us got food poisoning from eating their wonderful products. The only good thing is that they give you the bucket to throw up into after eating their 'food' - how thoughtful! :-) When we complained afterwards, they apologised and offered us some vouchers for more of the same - no thanks! The last time I went into a KFC, was when I was in Kentucky. I figured maybe it doesn't travel, and it may be better there, so out of curiosity I tried it. It wasn't, it was just as bad as everywhere else, and I've never been to one since. :-( |
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06 Feb 07 - 02:21 PM (#1959333) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: MBSLynne I haven't been to a KFC for over 30 years, but for a different reason from my absence from McDonalds. In the late 60s/early 70s Kentucky Fried Chicken opened their first shop in Perth, Western Australia. I was about 17 or 18 at the time and my friends and I went there a couple of times. I loved the stuff. Then one weekend I ate KFCs for just about every meal. By the end of that weekend I couldn't stand it. I think I have had it once since then, but the thrill had gone and the smell still reminds me of how sick it used to make mwe feel due to over-indulgence. A few years after that I worked in the KFC offices in Perth. By then there were several stores and the managers used to bring their paper work in. The folders always smelled of KFC and it didn't help my loathing at all. And just by the way...I had my photo taken with Colnel Sanders! Love Lynne |
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06 Feb 07 - 04:59 PM (#1959552) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Greg B Tony Soprano is--- oh hell, just Google the name. KFC --- for some reason, their mashed potatoes and gravy just set my mouth a-watering. Probably horrible for you, but GOOD spicy gravy! They have these new bowl thingies--- kind of like a meat pie or shepherd's pie. Look like great comfort food. Never did care for their chicken, but I've never been one on fried chicken as I don't care for the search for the meat between the batter and the bone. I do enjoy Taco Bell; always have, ever since being a kid in SoCal. Not the wierd new stuff, but their old standby tacos and burritos. Felt really bad for them when they were the victim of some polluted lettuce fields recently. After all it was BECAUSE they use some pretty fresh ingredients that they got nailed. Now for REAL Mexican fast food, there's a chain called 'Baja Fresh.' Just a slice of heaven. Great fish tacos. Sorry Burger King fans, but everything there tastes the same to me. I generally don't eat beef products at McD's, except for those rare Big Mac attacks which I later rue in a fit of bilious regret. I did take Bron, Philip, and Martin Hugill to McDonald's in Mystic one time, when it was the only place to get a bite to eat past 10PM. |
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06 Feb 07 - 05:04 PM (#1959557) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Liz the Squeak GregB - I dislike your use of the word 'retard'. He is probably more reliable and works harder than many so called 'able bodied' people. He has Down's Syndrome. He is not a 'retard'. He's also a very polite person - I've been to that resaurant and got a more sensible response from him than I did from the serving staff. As for eating healthily or well at fast food restaurants, I don't think anyone has said that is why they eat there - although it is possible to eat healthy things there, the major factor is price. Feeding a family is expensive enough at the best of times but eating out can be incredibly expensive. And I agree with the comparison between UK and US prices. It seems that the $0.49 burger translates across the pond to £0.49, about twice the price with exchange rates as they are. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a garden big enough to grow veg in, or have a friendly butcher nearby who rears his own stock. Some have to travel miles to get food from a store that doesn't open 24/7. Some can't afford to buy organic or from local stores. Market bought goods don't always last as long and bulk buying is not always practicable for storage reasons. I can see that some people are just making clear their opinions and actions, but there are others here who seem to be judging and that's not good. LTS |
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06 Feb 07 - 05:43 PM (#1959618) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Captain Ginger It is never cheaper to feed your family junk than it is to prepare real food. An onion, a tin of chopped tomatoes and enough pasta to feed four can be had from Tesco for a total of 48 pence. Go mad and buy some garlic and some mixed herbs - you'll still feed four for under a quid. What's more you can cook it in two pans on one ring in 20 minutes. Now what junk food joint can do that? Sorry, but I am judgemental on this. There is seldom an excuse for feeding your family crap, and anyone who regularly feeds their family at junk food restaurants is guilty of abuse in my book. |
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06 Feb 07 - 06:09 PM (#1959655) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Greg B Liz: I dislike even more your falsification of what I said. I used the term 'retarded' which is a clinical term which applies to individuals who have a variety of developmental disabilities (including Downs) which impair their intellectual development. I did not use the word 'retard,' which is a derogatory term. I'm awaiting your retraction and apology. |
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06 Feb 07 - 06:12 PM (#1959659) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Liz the Squeak "What's more you can cook it in two pans on one ring in 20 minutes." So next time we take our kids to the museum, I'll drag the camping gas stove along.... OK, so it costs 48p to buy an onion, a tin of tomatoes and pasta at Tescos. Not really the sort of thing to pack for a picnic. Have you also added in the cost that our nearest Tescos is 2 miles away across one of the busiest roads in the area? Because there isn't a direct bus route, that's a minimum of £2 each way. It's pointless buying an onion or tinned tomatoes because no-one in the house eats them and they'd only be wasted. So I've got pasta and a £4 bus fare. £4.49 buys two decent chicken salad sandwiches (of which half will be left because not everyone likes tomatoes, cucumber, or cold chicken) or four nasty tasteless egg mayonnaise sandwiches that only one person will eat. The point that several people have tried to make here is that you cannot force feed children (or indeed, adults) healthy food. A fast food meal occasionally is not going to do any major harm when the rest of their meals are healthy. When the important factor is just getting food into bellies at minimum cost and time, you have to concede that a fast food restaurant may be the only answer. LTS |
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06 Feb 07 - 06:36 PM (#1959697) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Liz the Squeak I retract nothing. I have not heard anyone in social work, health care or polite society use the words 'retard' or 'retarded' in connection with another human being for many years. LTS |
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06 Feb 07 - 07:01 PM (#1959712) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Greg B Liz: You stated: "GregB - I dislike your use of the word 'retard'." In fact, I said: "So if they want to make the retarded kid a manager, they can" You have two choices: a) Retract your mis-quote. b) Be branded a liar. 'Retard' is indeed a pejorative term, particularly when used to refer to a person with an actual developmental disability. It is unequivocally so. Therefore your mis-attribution of that term to my usage is in fact libelous. I find it offensive and demand that you retract it. For a discussion of the use of the term 'retarded,' a term the use of which is in flux, I refer any and all to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retarded Note that a number of charities and organizations still use the term 'Retarded' in their names. |
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06 Feb 07 - 07:23 PM (#1959731) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe "they will allow us to have a kids meal when we are not over hungry without insisting we are under 10 years old!" Interesting point that. It would seem that under Autralian Law, that a food business should not be able to prevent an adult buying a 'child's meal' for personal consumption, as there is no legal requirement about 'child's meals' anyway. Some pubs who serve expensive 'counter meals' (an old Aussie tradition!) refuse to serve adults with 'child meals'. They only refuse me once - I won't go back there, I will go to the next pub. "Of course, they DO buy all those potatoes from around here...." Amusing that. We had a big bunfight here in Oz, when certain fast food chains tried to drive down thr price of potatioes by buying them from overseas, so they could send the local farmers bankrupt in order that they would take any price - after a few years of building up the local potato industry bexcause of the huge volumes they buy... "Still behaved appallingly vis-a-vis McLibel though" Currently there is a poor Aussie shop owner named Mr MacDonald being sued to change the name of his business. Normally such little businesses just roll over because they don't have millions of dollars to waste on frivolous law suits. Frivolous, because they are not doing anything illegal - Mr MacDonald is entitled under law to trade under his own name. Also, if they DID have the millions of dollars, they wouldn't be running a corner shop... A while ago, a littel guy won such a case, but the big rich bastards still play rough - another good moral reason to refuse to patronise such businesses - they are using the profit from YOUR money to harass small individuals! |
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07 Feb 07 - 10:20 AM (#1959961) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Captain Ginger When I took our kids to museums we took a packed lunch. Never saw the need to give 'em junk - and the few times they had it they didn't like it. Both sons and daughter all prefer home-made pizza and burgers to shop-bought and all three have become discerning eaters and good cooks as a result. That was on an income which sometimes dipped well below the national average. And what's nice is that they're healthy, normal sized and active; and two of them have played sport and athletics at county level. To be honest, it's up to people to eat shite if they want, but I do object to the lurking time-bomb of health care. Fat people and those who don't exercise go wrong more often and cost more to fix, and people are getting fatter, so we're all going to have to pay for their greed and stupidity. You can kid yourself that junk food has nothing to do with it, but look into the supermarket trolleys of your fellow shoppers; slim, healthy people tend to have ingredients; fat unhealthy people have processed and ready-made foods. And they're the same people you see eating in the street and grazing on crap at all odd times of the day. |
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07 Feb 07 - 11:10 AM (#1960018) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Paco Rabanne "Beef jerky, now almost rectum free." Apu, The Simpsons. I have a huge 42" LG television, which I believe was made in America.So I am obviously the Anti-Christ. All things in moderation eh chaps? I'm rather partial to the odd McDonald's when I am out and about. |
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07 Feb 07 - 12:07 PM (#1960089) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST My standard description of Stockholm: "Even McDonalds is posh." It was so smart it almost made me want to go in. Almost. |
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07 Feb 07 - 12:19 PM (#1960095) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC Arguing terminology and taking personal offense on the internet, including demanding retractions and apologies, is fucking retarded. (see what I did there?) Also, fast food restaurants are doubly evil, since so many of them are megacorporations in addition to being pimps for some of the shittiest and unhealthiest food outside of Scotland. |
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07 Feb 07 - 02:11 PM (#1960214) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,ib48 I wish the food would have a makeover,its absolute shite in every branch |
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07 Feb 07 - 02:13 PM (#1960219) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC It's true, I've seen more appetizing morsels in my toilet (after I've warmed the seat for a time, I mean). |
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07 Feb 07 - 02:17 PM (#1960221) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: MBSLynne I'm quite surprised to find that a discussion on McDonald's food seems to be arousing more emotions and aggression than the discussion on spanking children did...... Love Lynne |
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07 Feb 07 - 02:32 PM (#1960236) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: bobad "Meat makes you mean" Remember that saying from the 60's Lynne? |
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07 Feb 07 - 05:59 PM (#1960459) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: John MacKenzie I would think JeremyC that a Scot might be entitled to take offence at your sweeping generalisation about food in Scotland. It would seem apposite, that in the same thread you take others to task for similar actions. G. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:13 PM (#1960471) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Becca72 I've been on pain meds since mid October for a herniated disc, and rather than adding more chemicals (I know, I know..what do ya thinks in the BURGER) to my system to counteract the intestinal issues that creates I simply went to McDonald's the other day and bought a hamburger. Cleared everything out in no time! Now, that's the only reason I'd ever eat a hamburger from McDonald's. I do enjoy their Newman's Own organic coffee, though. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:26 PM (#1960485) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC John 'Giok' MacKenzie posted:Congratulations on your total failure to understand my post. Do you work at McDonald's (in the position of "Customer Care Manager," amirite) by chance? As I said, taking personal offense to statements made on the internet is fucking retarded. No one is "entitled" to take offense at ANYTHING. So yes, a Scot might take offense at my comments about food in Scotland (s/he is in a free country, after all), but if s/he did, s/he would be acting in a manner that is, as I stated, fucking retarded. Likewise, demanding an apology or retraction as if what the other person says or thinks is somehow important enough to affect your daily life is taking "retarded" into bold new territory. Read, comprehend, post. You missed either the first or second of the three steps. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:31 PM (#1960495) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: John MacKenzie I suggest you take anger management therapy, and while you're at it, you might perhaps take a course on linguistic idiosyncrasies. You might then discover that not all words mean the same to all people, and a little consideration for others is no bad thing. The tendency to leap to the offensive position at any perceived opportunity is not an attractive character trait G. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:40 PM (#1960509) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Canadienne Thank you JeremyC for pointing out far more succintly than any argument on why "retarded" has become such an offensive word that even the most well known charities and organizations wish to be known by other names and it's usage is almost entirely restricted to playground insults or those with poor vocabularies who use sites like this to perpetuate outdated stereotypes. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:41 PM (#1960510) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe Hello JeremyC, I hope you become well behaved here. Abusing others is not a friendly act. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:50 PM (#1960524) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Sorcha Jeremy, I have many friends who are intellectually disabled. They ALL objecto to 'retarded'. Vehemently. IMO, all humans are 'retarded' in some way. Me, I am retarded in maths. And since I am not 20 yrs old anymore, my body says it is 'retarded'...in that it doesn't function like a 20 yr old body anymore. Take your 'retarded' elsewhere. |
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07 Feb 07 - 06:57 PM (#1960533) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe Perhaps "JeremyC" wants to become the 'next MG'??? :-) |
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07 Feb 07 - 08:20 PM (#1960609) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Girl Friday All I asked was are there any more revamped McDonalds? This has become yet another mudslinging bs thread. I'm detracing. Goodbye. |
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07 Feb 07 - 08:29 PM (#1960615) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Homeless Girl Friday, I hate to disagree with you, but you asked more than just about revamped ones. You also asked "...who hasn't used one?" My first post on this thread was in direct response to that question. |
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07 Feb 07 - 10:28 PM (#1960688) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Bee-dubya-ell I'll eat breakfast at McDonalds if I'm traveling and lunch is 400 miles away. An English muffin with egg and a sausage patty is pretty much an English muffin with egg and a sausage patty, whether I make it in my kitchen or buy it at McDonalds. |
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08 Feb 07 - 07:14 AM (#1960959) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC John 'Giok' MacKenzie posted: 1. Don't mistake my criticism of your misinterpretation of my post as "anger." I save my anger for worthwhile targets that have a real-life effect on me, such as, say (to keep this on topic) McDonald's and its advertising campaigns, various abuses, etc. 2. If this is simply a miscommunication, then I apologize. But please explain to me how any dialect of English can confuse "taking offense" with "giving offense," because this strikes me as strange. I said that taking offense and demanding an apology for words said on an online forum is stupid. Then I followed it up with a random comment about Scottish food (which I actually like and have no serious problems with), which you somehow interpreted as committing the same act I was criticizing others for. How is making an outrageous, completely unfounded, and clearly facetious comment about Scottish food equivalent to taking offense to words posted on the internet? Because as far as I can tell, in the situation you were describing, this theoretical Scot would be the one committing the act I was criticizing others for. If this is a matter of differing usage of the same words, sure, but I have many friends who use Commonwealth English, and this is the first time I've encountered this particular idiosyncratic difference. 3. I think saying you failed to understand my post is justified, because to all appearances, you failed to understand my post. All the rest was for rhetorical effect. Finding ways to imply that a person who disagrees with you or says something completely unfounded is somehow mentally disabled is a pastime of virtually every public discussion group I've seen online since the mid-90s when I first got online. If I took offense to people using words I didn't like while posting on public discussion forums, I would have many long, full days of taking offense. But you have to decide what's important. I post the way I do because it's fun, and I hope for a reply in kind. So I suppose we really are "speaking different languages." It seems obvious to me, but I suppose I have to explain to you that I didn't mean any but the most basic comments I made, which are, again: - You did not appear to "get" the "point" of my post - Taking offense and demanding retractions in an online forum is not only bad form, it's silly in the extreme. Does this make more sense to you? I'm sincerely sorry for any defect in communication that caused this misunderstanding. |
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08 Feb 07 - 07:17 AM (#1960961) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe "Taking offense and demanding retractions in an online forum is not only bad form, it's silly in the extreme." What a load of bullying nonsense! |
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08 Feb 07 - 07:19 AM (#1960963) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: John MacKenzie A lack of smilies can be a drawback sometimes, and it is not always obvious that some posts are tongue in cheek. Of course another thing that varies tremendously from person to person, and more obviously between nations, is what does and doesn't amuse us. Still it might even be boring if we all shared the same sense of humour. Giok ¦¬] |
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08 Feb 07 - 07:27 AM (#1960978) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Canadienne "Finding ways to imply that a person who disagrees with you or says something completely unfounded is somehow mentally disabled is a pastime of virtually every public discussion group I've seen online since the mid-90s when I first got online." Jeremy you have some rather unpleasant "pastimes" and you are insulting to people who are "mentally disabled" "I post the way I do because it's fun," but you are NOT amusing! |
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08 Feb 07 - 08:32 AM (#1961038) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: JeremyC John - Thanks for your understanding. I tend to approach things online by default as if no one else was taking things seriously, either--I mean, to me, an insult delivered through an electronic medium by a person I have never met has all the significance of a "yo momma" type joke (which is to say, it's not an insult at all, it's a game that should not be mistaken for an actual insult). Really, though, based on the discussions I've seen here, if people are treating this as if it were a face to face discussion, this community has some seriously angry people in it, which is kind of frightening. I will not apologize for using words that other people find offensive, because both in real life and online, because in my opinion, anyone who is offended by a word needs therapy. I freely apologize for using the wrong mode of discourse for this community, however, and I'll try not to do it again. |
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08 Feb 07 - 11:40 AM (#1961235) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: KB in Iowa There is a McDonalds near me that took out the garish colors and used more earth tones in the tables and seats. They had planters with live plants and did a lot of landscaping. Put in some lovely trees and flower beds. This was probably twenty years ago. Some five or ten years ago they ripped out all the trees and plants and went back to the orange and yellow inside. I read once that fast food places use these sorts of colors because they do want people to linger. Eat and get out to make room for the next wave. I have never liked McDonalds food. Don't care to eat a lot of any sort of fast food these days but McDonalds is near the bottom of my list for those times when we do go. |
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08 Feb 07 - 01:21 PM (#1961347) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: melodeonboy Yes, fumblefingers, you're right. McDonald's does have a useful fuction after all. If I'm spending several hours in Maidstone (Kent, England!), I tend to pop in to McDonald's for a piss. I certainly wouldn't contemplate consuming any of that muck that they pass off as food, but their khazis are all right! |
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08 Feb 07 - 05:08 PM (#1961654) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Captain Ginger Absolutely - it's even entered the lingo as a 'McPiss' or a 'McDump'. But I didn't realise they also did food! |
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08 Feb 07 - 07:43 PM (#1961783) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: beardedbruce Please, the term is McFood... No relation to real food. |
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08 Feb 07 - 08:26 PM (#1961815) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Gulliver My God, what a lot of rant about a piece of dead cow between two pieces of stale bread--that's all that McDonald's is... |
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09 Feb 07 - 03:17 AM (#1961990) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe "anyone who is offended by a word needs therapy" Your opinion. 'Words mean just what I want them to mean' - Alice in WOnderland. Another opinion. 'Anyone who uses words without caring (and refusing to have any remorse for) whether others who use those word differently may be offended, may also need therapy.' A different opinion. People with attitudes like that expressed by you will burn up their welcome here sooner or later. Some have even already found that out the hard way. |
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17 Jul 10 - 09:14 AM (#2946683) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas Yet another anti McDonalds thread. How tiresome. If you don't like it don't use it. I use them occasionally as do most of the nutters who have posted anti-McDonalds comments, perfectly healthy nourishing food, provding, like anything else, it forms PART of your diet, not ALL of it. |
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17 Jul 10 - 09:27 AM (#2946693) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: kendall 20 years ago while in Edinburgh I ate at McDonald's because it was handy and familiar. It was unbelievable but the food was worse than it is here! |
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17 Jul 10 - 09:29 AM (#2946695) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Ed T I was in a Supermarket a few years ago. I noted a a couple with two children carefully looking over food ingredients, while choosing food for their pet dog. They took much time discussing the ingredients, and whether they were healthy enough for their pet pooch. Just before they departed, dog food in hand, one child asked, "Mom, can we go to McDonalds for lunch". "Yes", the Mother replied. Could this be an example of mixed priorities? |
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17 Jul 10 - 09:36 AM (#2946700) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu I've just come back from three weeks in the US, and we went to a McDonald's in Chicago to see if it was as crap as it is here in the UK. To our surprise, the limp, soggy piece of shite that was sold to us as a 'Cheeseburger' was as bad as it is here. To me, the big mystery is in the US where very good food is easily available and they make (in my opinion) the best burgers in the world why would anyone settle for this lowest denominator shit? |
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17 Jul 10 - 09:44 AM (#2946703) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas Have to say that for a bunch that never eats in McDonalds, you seem to have a pretty expert opinion on its food. Funny that... |
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17 Jul 10 - 10:45 AM (#2946740) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu "Have to say that for a bunch that never eats in McDonalds, you seem to have a pretty expert opinion on its food." Er, I never said I never eat in McDonalds. I must have in order to compare the two. Anyway, as the woman said "Let them eat shite".* * In an alarming display of hypocrisy, I must admit I fell in love with Cheetos whilst in the US (we had a packed lunch prepared for us and Cheetos were often included), I even began to relish the bizarre orange colour my fingers went whilst eating them; the power seemed to add flavour to my ham and cheese butty. Cheetos are utter shite. |
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17 Jul 10 - 11:27 AM (#2946754) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: gnu Wendy's double classic with the works. Two meals. |
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17 Jul 10 - 12:27 PM (#2946765) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: kendall Jack, No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public" (H.L. Mencken) |
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17 Jul 10 - 02:00 PM (#2946799) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: gnu Anyone care to comment on the Harvey's Angus burgers? Been thinking about trying one. |
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17 Jul 10 - 03:49 PM (#2946843) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: G-Force All McDonalds in France have free wi-fi. About the only reason to go there. |
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18 Jul 10 - 01:17 AM (#2946999) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief I always enjoy reading about how McDonald's has "invaded" some country with its own proud food traditions and so on and so forth. The solution is really simple. Stop eating there and they'll go out of business. If they manage to stay in business, somebody there must want the food enough to buy it. Me, I wish some French or Polish restaurateurs would "invade" the Seattle area. |
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18 Jul 10 - 05:33 PM (#2947286) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Mrs.Duck We use McDonalds a fair bit when travelling as you can guarentee the price and quality are the same wherever. It tastes good and the kids love it. I wouldn't want the kids to eat there too often but as an occasional treat I don't get anyones problem. Its a LOT better than many of the pub meals we've experienced. |
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18 Jul 10 - 05:40 PM (#2947291) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) The best fast food is a chicken kebab. Chunks of marinated and char-grilled breast meat, in pitta bread with masses of mixed salad, lemon and chili peppers.. Or fish (freshly fried haddock) and chips. So long as it's a decent chippy. |
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18 Jul 10 - 07:50 PM (#2947361) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Dave MacKenzie When I'm travelling, I like to try out the local cuisine. I was on a coach trip in Poland a few years ago and we went down the motorway past all those stopping places with the tour guide saying "they won't be able to cope with coaches" despite the signs up saying "coaches welcome". Got to Katowice (I think that's how you spell it) and stopped at the McDonald's. I used the toilets but refused even to have a coffee. I think it had something to do with back-handers, but we never stopped at another one that trip. A few years previously in Prague, my wife and daughter went off to the McDonald's in Wenceslas Square on the assumption that they'd get a cheap meal there. I went into a local deli and got a foot long baguette filled with a great selection of local meats at half the price. Anyway, isn't McDonald's the hardware store in Kyle-of-Lochalsh - it was 50 years ago. |
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18 Jul 10 - 08:08 PM (#2947368) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Leadfingers 100 |
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18 Jul 10 - 08:14 PM (#2947369) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Leadfingers I had a McDonalds in New York in 1974 because mt N Y lady said I HAD to have at least one McDonalds . NEVER had one since - Wendy does a better meal in MY opinion ! |
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18 Jul 10 - 08:29 PM (#2947376) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Q (Frank Staplin) Kebab in pitta??? That skewer do make it interesting. |
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19 Jul 10 - 04:57 AM (#2947472) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Tangledwood Yet another anti McDonalds thread. How tiresome. So why resurrect a three year old thread? |
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19 Jul 10 - 07:01 AM (#2947503) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Whilst we're confirmed Subway fans these days, we still have sentimental yearnings for MacDonalds. Indeed the other night in the wonderful Trafford Centre food hall we sat with McDonald's cheeseburgers and chocolate milkshakes under a painted dreamy sky with the star-lights coming on lost in a reverie of true loving romance... Once on tour with a Fellow Storyteller we fetched up in a Northern Town where my companion was keen to sample the over-priced organic fare on offer at the local wholefood restaurant. I passed on this, heading for McDonalds instead, much to chagrin of my Fellow Storyteller who later expressed his disappointment and passed moral judgement on my willingness to partake of less-than ethical fare having mistaken me for a kindred spirit of the new-age persuasion. There's a lot of that in the storytelling world. Shite chips though; go to Burger King if you want good chips. |
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19 Jul 10 - 11:29 AM (#2947655) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie A good few years ago, a small building of new shops opened in Worksop. On the corner, with an entrance both to the street and inside to the shopping centre, they opened a McDonalds. So far, so hoopy, if you like that sort of thing. Now... they didn't get enough takers for the shops so the local Job Centre and dole office moved in together. Wow.. a Job Centre and signing on office WITH ITS OWN DOOR LEADING INTO THE McDONALDS. (Sorry for shouting..) It closed through lack of business the other year. Work that one out. I know a bit about local public health statistics and the shutting down of McDonalds wasn't because the locals are into healthy eating. (I originate from the place, and have a legacy of liking fish & chips after 12 pints.) |
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19 Jul 10 - 12:28 PM (#2947703) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) As for burgers, I actually genuinely like Burger Kings beanburger. But nothing beats a Kentucky Zinger Tower burger for me! They used to be a real favourite, every Saturday afternoon while wandering round town. Haven't had one for a long time as I don't live near a Kentucky any more. Probably just as well really. If town wandering and eating in, I'll usually plump for a pub ploughman's in the grimiest looking backstreet boozer we can find (usually quite cheap), or if eating out it's Marky's sushi or smoked salmon sarni and a wee bottle of wine in the park :) |
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19 Jul 10 - 01:56 PM (#2947753) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Bonzo3legs Hideous muck. |
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19 Jul 10 - 06:55 PM (#2947922) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: melodeonboy Looking on the positive side, there's a McDonald's in a very convenient position in Week Street, Maidstone. It's very handy if I need the khazi whenever I'm in Maidstone. The khazi there's nice and clean, and doesn't stink of cheap maize oil like the rest of the "restaurant". I wouldn't dream of eating there, of course, even if they paid me. I'm just trying to be positive! :) |
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19 Jul 10 - 07:59 PM (#2947957) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Dave MacKenzie I'm of the firm belief that a real Hamburger should be made from the same meat as Steak Tartare. Anybody ever try a Bic Mac raw? |
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19 Jul 10 - 09:29 PM (#2948000) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Ed T On the positive side, in summer, they do offer McLobster rolls in Atlantic Canada. |
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19 Jul 10 - 11:15 PM (#2948039) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,josep McDonald's serves crap. |
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20 Jul 10 - 05:17 AM (#2948129) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: romanyman best thing about mcdonalds is that they close at some point during the day, did anyone see that great peice on the telly where they put a mcdonalds burger (well thats what they call it ) on a shelf un refrigerated just sitting there, for two years it didn t rot go mouldy nothing, they then looked at why , the ammount of presevatives in the thing would have kept it ok for another two years, sounds good to me hhhhmmmmmmmmmmm |
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20 Jul 10 - 05:54 AM (#2948137) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas "best thing about mcdonalds is that they close at some point during the day, did anyone see that great peice on the telly where they put a mcdonalds burger (well thats what they call it ) on a shelf un refrigerated just sitting there, for two years it didn t rot go mouldy nothing, they then looked at why , the ammount of presevatives in the thing would have kept it ok for another two years, sounds good to me hhhhmmmmmmmmmmm" If you are going to write rubbish like this it is probably a good idea to give a citation or reference - this is obviously a completely made up story designed to do nothing more than harm the product. |
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20 Jul 10 - 09:14 AM (#2948242) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu " this is obviously a completely made up story designed to do nothing more than harm the product." LOL! Nice one Silas! That was sarcasm, right? Makes a change from the product harming you though, doesn't it! Burger King is OK - the burgers taste of actual beef, they're flame grilled rather than whatever McDud's do to theirs and the salad actually looks like it was once a plant. A friend's son-in-law is a factory food inspector and he had to review a Maccy D's burger factory and after the inspection he swore he'd never eat another due to the amount of crap put into the burgers, he seemed very upset by the amount of starch in the food. |
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20 Jul 10 - 09:33 AM (#2948259) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas No. I have no problem with McDonalds either way, but the crap that people talk here about this companies products is pretty pathetic. McDonalds use only British and Irish Beef, proper cuts from forequater and flank, nothing else apart from salt and pepper. No preservatives, no flavouring. Fact. |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:09 AM (#2948276) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu Don't work for McDuds do you Silas? |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:20 AM (#2948282) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST No, no connection with them at all. Just fed up with the anti-corporate shite spouted by idiots who seem to think that just because a corporation is muli-national and big means it sells crap. In this cae it doesn't. Like the food or not, it is consistently good quality and well priced. I would dearly love to know the truth about your "friend's son-in-law is a factory food inspector" |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:21 AM (#2948283) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas Sorry, the last post was mine... |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:53 AM (#2948304) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,josep McDonald's serves crap and of course it has flavoring. Every burger on planet earth has flavoring. When you order a barbeque flavored burger, you don't think they actually barbeque it, do you? It's a flavoring they add to the exact same type of patty that goes into a regular burger which also has a regular-type flavoring added. Otherwise the patty would be utterly tasteless, a totally blank palette. They don't want a natural taste creeping in that might interfere with their artificial flavorings so the burgers are literally tasteless and they add all the flavorings they want and they can make them taste like almost anything they want them to--a chocolate sundae or a green apple--because they have such flavorings available in the fast food industry. It's garbage and if you don't believe me, eat nothing but McDonald's for six months and then let's have a look at you--although it may be in a funeral parlor. |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:54 AM (#2948306) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: catspaw49 Thank you Silas......and now moving along............... I knew a guy who couldn't "get it up" and even Viagra didn't work. He had allergy problems so most medications wouldn't do the job. Out of desperation, he went to an herbalist doctor who listened to his story and then gave him a "recipe." "Fry up a chopped onion and mix it with some pickle juice, mustard, a bit of ketchup, and smear the mix on a cloth and wrap your genitals in it for one hour each day before sex. Come back in two weeks." Well, the guy was desparate and he did as the herb doc told him. To his great surprise, it was terrific! Never before had he experienced such tremendous staying power. Two weeks later he returned to the doctor and told him the great news. The doctor asked if there were any allergic reactions or side effects. "Just one Doc.....and its OK." the guy answered. "What is it?" asked the doc. "Not much," he said, "but whenever I drive past a McDonald's I get a hard on." Spaw |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:54 AM (#2948307) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Patsy Warren It really is overpriced junk, Burger King is more generous with the salad which is better but it amazes me though the families that take their children on Sunday for their main meal here where I live in Bristol, is it a similar in other counties? Surely for a family with a couple of children it can't be a cheap way to eat or healthy. I have seen children so hyped up after the sugar overload and appetite enhancers and the parents have the nerve to tell them to sit still and be quiet!! Doh! |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:00 AM (#2948308) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas "McDonald's serves crap and of course it has flavoring. Every burger on planet earth has flavoring. When you order a barbeque flavored burger, you don't think they actually barbeque it, do you? It's a flavoring they add to the exact same type of patty that goes into a regular burger which also has a regular-type flavoring added. Otherwise the patty would be utterly tasteless, a totally blank palette. They don't want a natural taste creeping in that might interfere with their artificial flavorings so the burgers are literally tasteless and they add all the flavorings they want and they can make them taste like almost anything they want them to--a chocolate sundae or a green apple--because they have such flavorings available in the fast food industry. It's garbage and if you don't believe me, eat nothing but McDonald's for six months and then let's have a look at you--although it may be in a funeral parlor." Why, instead of spouting ill informed drivel, don't you do a bit of research on the topic. That way you wont look such a pratt. |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:15 AM (#2948321) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu " would dearly love to know the truth about your "friend's son-in-law is a factory food inspector" Er, so I'm a liar then? You want his name? His address? Call, me a prat, idiot or what you like but call me a liar and you'd better have good reasons to back it up. |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:18 AM (#2948322) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu Jesus that's annoyed me. This is the problem with the internet, people like Silas wouldn't say that to your face in a conversation in a pub or whatever and expect not to have to explain himself. Calling people who have posted in good faith a liar is utterly wrong. |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:20 AM (#2948325) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas I would happily pose the same question to your face if I could. You are making very serious allegations based on the professional opinion of a food inspector, so where can I find a copy of his report? |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:30 AM (#2948330) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie Here in The UK, if you claim your beef is 100% scouse or whatever and only has salt seasoning then it has to be true or you have to turn up in court with your cheque book. Mind you, our new business friendly government is abolishing the food standards agency... err.. the organisation that takes you to court. Oh heck. Ah well. I once did try a McD burger plain, and it tasted like cardboard. I thought that a good thing because if it had any taste, that would be the E numbers then.... Various agencies inspect food factories here in The UK. On a national level, the Health and Safety Executive go in, and for now so do The Food Standards Agency. On a more local level, environmental health officers go in too. Many organisations reserve the right to periodically inspect their suppliers too. Where slaughter is involved, DEFRA etc also inspect. So, that's a hell of a lot of inspectors. So although many people claim to know an inspector, there is a chance they do! |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:38 AM (#2948336) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: catspaw49 So in other words, for all you McD haters.......If the chance came to you to own a McDonald's franchise at a decent location, you'd turn your back and go Morris Dancing? If so, I admire your ethics....you're a dickwad, but I admire your ethics. No, wait....you're going Morris Dancing......make that a "complete dickwad." Spaw |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:39 AM (#2948337) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "A friend's son-in-law is a factory food inspector and he had to review a Maccy D's burger factory" When she was a mature student several years ago, my Mum used to work a night shift in a meat processing factory. She told me some horror stories from there. They process all kinds of fetid grey shite in the mushers that go into what becomes burgers. Bits off the floor, stuff that's been walked on, sawdust and all. I'm sure Maccy D's have nice futuristic space suits and sterile petri dish style conditions in the factories that supply *their* meaty mush though ;-) |
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20 Jul 10 - 11:55 AM (#2948346) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "If the chance came to you to own a McDonald's franchise at a decent location, you'd turn your back" I wouldn't want that. If I owned it, I'd sell it because I do fancy the idea of a decent casual, nosh shop. I've worked in kitchens, and enjoy cooking. Baking in particular. I like those funny little cafe's you get in small art galleries. Not the one's that do cappuchinolattelightfluff and poncy little bagels for middle management cocks in shiny shoes. But the one's with rickety tables, chunky soup and homebaked bread and (yes, generally rubbish) art on the walls. It might not make much money, but it might well make me happy. Hell, call me err a dickwad ;-) |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:06 PM (#2948356) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Think of the romance, the folklore, the tradition; think of the cultural ubiquity that unites all humanity in the simple fact that the whole world over a Big Mac is a Big Mac; a thing of truth, wonder, mystery & beauty - a veritable Host in a Global Communion with the very essense of The Divine. WWJD? Well, if Christ was around today, he would hang out at McDonald's and it would Bic Mac Meals all round at the Last Supper and Future Christians would do this in remembrance of He. This is Folk Food and Soul Food; this is gifted Manna, complete with plastic dragons that light up in the dark to remind us of a deeper ceremonial Gnosis in which all I really crave is a Root Beer to be honest, something they no longer have in the UK. The chips are still shite though, but dipped in a wee tub of Sweet & Sour they passable fare in the wee small hours of a Salford carpark of a Saturday night immersed in BBC Radio 1 Extra (Fabio & Grooverider - wall to wall drum and bass). I gaze at the stars and know that I am truly blessed! |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:13 PM (#2948362) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu As you may have guessed had you read the report, this subject arose in a private conversation with the man's mother-in-law and I have seen no report. However, having known his mother-in-law for 25 years, and that she is not given to hyperbole or fanciful statements I'm inclined to take her word for it. In that sense, it's hearsay true but then sitting calling people prats and idiots isn't exactly mounting a watertight defence of the allegations, something you seem incapable of doing. "McDonalds use only British and Irish Beef, proper cuts from forequater and flank, nothing else apart from salt and pepper. No preservatives, no flavouring. Fact." You sure - want to provide an independent citiation for that? But you know, I suspect you might be right on that one, but do you know anyone who actually eats just the thin rubbery patties? I suspect not, and what is wrapped around and served up with them (including McNuggets etc) is full of nasties. A quote taken from the site documenting the 1997 libel case sums ups the argument briefly: "McDonald's pride themselves on the uniformity of their products throughout the world. The achieve this they have set formulae and specifications for menu items. In order to ensure the food looks and tastes the same the world over the plaintiffs use a number of chemical additives in the preparation of their food. In a booklet published by the Second plaintiff in or around 1989, 43 additives are listed as being used on their foods. A number of these are believed to have undesirable side effects. Some of the listed additives are specifically listed by the Hyperactive Children's Support Group as unsuitable for such children. In France, in or around 1986 legal action was taken against McDonald's for using banned colorants in their milk shakes. In or around 1979, in Australia, McDonald's was selling products containing lettuce with traces of the following chemicals: sodium disulphite, citric acid, ascorbic acid, calcium silicate, sodium citrate and sodium hexanetrophosphate." Or fromthe article in The Independent: Richard Watts, head of the Children's Food Campaign at the food group Sustain said: "We are very concerned that about the heavy use of additives in McDonald's especially the ones identified as harmful to health in the Southampton study." But, he said, E-numbers were "part of the business model" for processed food and would be hard to remove. Nice. No point in making better food for kids if it interferes with the business model. In China, that bastion of freedom, liberty and hope Ronald busily is pedalling his own brand of healthy junk to hapless Chinese children (taken from Bloomberg): "The use of tertiary butylhydroquinone in the fast-food chain's fried chicken pieces meets Chinese food safety standards, McDonald's unit in the nation said in an e-mailed statement. "The chemical is toxic to some extent," the China Daily newspaper quoted Liu Qingchun, a nutritionist at the General Hospital of Armed Police Forces, as saying today. Liu said China's standards allow its use." Unfortunately McDonald's seem a tad reticent regarding actually telling Chinese consumers that these additives are in their food according to this article in the Shanghai Daily. As for the fries, everything you need to know is here.. I wonder if ""an animal source."" they use to flavour their fries is British or Irish? Of course it's not just McDonald's who use these products in their food, but then as I don't go to them either (and the drinks - yeuch!) I'm not too worried. As for the chicken McNuggets, just don't go there. They're http://www.robedwards.com/2010/06/mcdonalds-playing-chicken-with-british-food.ht despite this statement: ""Our customers care about where their food comes from," insisted Nick Hindle, the company's vice president for communications from London. "People want to eat British food. They think it is supporting the British economy and they trust the quality." Well, actually we don't all think eating McDonalds is supporting the British economy stupid. Doh! Buying burgers from my local butcher is, however and I can drive past the field where the beef was raised too. Result! |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:17 PM (#2948367) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) PS there seems to be some annoyance about McD being called 'crap'. Well, it's *predictable* tasty processed stuff, and it all depends what you want from what you consider to be "good" food. I'd say that McD is like a 'fix' it's high salt high fat stuff and tastes good on a superficial level that kids in particular like, because they're programmed that way. There's no moral value judgement in that, but a burger is what it is. And it ain't chargrilled sirloin with a freshly baked baguette, shredded cos and horseradish sauce! That's "good" food to me, it's not a processed "fix". I don't know about anyone else, but I'd rather have the sirloin than a McD? I think if I ate steak, salad and bread for a month, I'd eventually get a bit fed-up with it. But if I had to eat McD for a month I'd be feeling pretty shitty and nauseated. That's the key difference between "crap" food and "good" food, the former is OK in the short term, but it fucks you up in the long term, including making you a fat fucker ;-) |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:24 PM (#2948370) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu Crow Sister has it. Great burgers can be had! Decent junk food for the masses! Dickwads of the world unite! "Well, if Christ was around today, he would hang out at McDonald's and it would Bic Mac Meals all round at the Last Supper and Future Christians would do this in remembrance of He" I rather fancied he might be in a town boozer passing around the scratchings, speaking works of deep wisdom to be ever misinterpreted for eons hence by countless millions before having a go on the frooter and praying for divine intervention. |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:27 PM (#2948371) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "the whole world over a Big Mac is a Big Mac; a thing of truth, wonder, mystery & beauty - a veritable Host in a Global Communion with the very essense of The Divine." Holy shit! That's heavy stuff.. I've never yet had a Big Mac, and I call myself a Gnostic? |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:34 PM (#2948376) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas OK Sugarfoot, it's a simple matter to trawl the internet for negative reports on McDonalds and its produts, even if some of them are 30 years old. McDonalds chips (fries - whatever) come from British Potatoes and are produced by McCain. No flavourings or added ingredients, just potatoes and oils. The red sauce they use is your common or garden Heinz Tomato Ketchup. The buns are a standard recepie bun that you could buy almost anywhere. The cheese - well, its shite. Its processed muck. Dill? just pickled gherkin. Chicken nuggets - well, they are bound to be crap, but they are crap wherever you buy them. Can't point the finger at McDs for that. |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:38 PM (#2948378) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: gnomad I don't go for burgers as a whole, though I would not reject the option if hungry enough and having no alternative. They just are not to my taste, and have no cultural significance for me. Other people have a different take on that, OK, it isn't something we need to fall out about. I did, once, eat at McDonalds and their product didn't strike me as significantly better or worse than others of that ilk. The place was at least clean, which cannot be said of all cheap eateries. The thing that just slightly vexes me is their use of the word "restaurant", maybe that has different connotations in McD's homeland, but cafe or snack-bar would strike me as more appropriate descriptions. Restaurant, to me, indicates a rather more involved cuisine than a fast food franchise offers. I was amused by this story, it suggests that at least somebody wants McDonalds. As for Spaw's proposition; he'll think me a dickwad, but I would decline, not because I hate McD's but because I've seen how hard a franchisee needs to work and am happier as I am. I would also be glad to be able to dance morris again but until someone gives me a time machine ride it won't happen. |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:47 PM (#2948380) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) There isn't really anywhere else on Mudcat that I can flag this fresh disovery up right now (umm, there was another thread but I'll let it rest). So I'll do it here: MJ Harris & Martyn Bates Murder Ballads Ooer, is all I'll say. So far I've only checked the lone Bloody Gardener track.. Well worth it though. Ooh.. |
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20 Jul 10 - 12:59 PM (#2948393) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu "OK Sugarfoot, it's a simple matter to trawl the internet for negative reports on McDonalds and its produts, even if some of them are 30 years old." Fine - I provided information, much up to date some to provide ideas on how the opinions of many people here are formed (i.e. established fact, however old). Tell you what though - I am not a liar. "I've never yet had a Big Mac, and I call myself a Gnostic?" More like an agnostic? |
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20 Jul 10 - 01:15 PM (#2948408) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "More like an agnostic?" Mmm, a fast food agnostic? That probably fits. I DO like fast food, but I have some favourites as cited: Marky's Sushi/Salmon Sarni would come a close second to a Kebab. My best burger is Kentucky Zinger Tower, beating anything offered from McD out of the water. If I could get Singapore Chow Mein in your average high street however, I'd ditch Marky's like a shot. See, it's complex.. |
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20 Jul 10 - 01:20 PM (#2948411) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,josep For the benefit of Silas, my information comes from the book "Fast Food Nation" by Eric Schlosser who toured the various factories where meat patties, fries and flavorings are made. It's a very hard read for those who actually think McDonald's is healthy. But my challenge to Silas will go unmet: eat nothing but stuff off a McDonald's menu for 6 months. Egg Mcmuffins for breakfast, filets for lunch, shakes, cokes, orange juice, salads, mcnuggets--whatever and then let's have a look at you. |
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20 Jul 10 - 01:34 PM (#2948423) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "The thing that just slightly vexes me is their use of the word "restaurant"," Honestly I went into one of those BIG independent shops one Xmas a few years back, the kind that attracts well heeled types. I asked the lady at one of the counters downstairs, nicely if they had a "cafeteria" (note: not a lowly "Caff", nor even a "Cafe" but a "cafeteria"). She informed me in a suitably superior manner (for a shop assistant!), that there was a "Restaurant" upstairs. Not just *any* old "restaurant" of course, but one in an affected French accent! Larf much! Yes I did.. But then it was the only place open where we could get a cuppa coffee and a mince pie. |
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20 Jul 10 - 02:13 PM (#2948448) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray eat nothing but stuff off a McDonald's menu for 6 months. Anything that brings you closer to God is divine; this is ceremonial food to be eaten on ritual / folkloric occasions. To use the above as an argument is to miss the point - it's like telling a Roman Catholic to live on Holy Toast and Communion Wine for 6 months or a Folkie to live on Real Ale and Phileas Fogg packet snacks for 6 months. One doesn't go to McDonald's to eat, one goes to paint pictures of infinity and contemplate the joyful noise of eternity. Shit, if it was good enough for Sun Ra, then it's good enough for Sedayne. Go for that Big Mac, CS - it'll blow your mind! |
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20 Jul 10 - 02:23 PM (#2948456) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Smokey. Well, it'll certainly bring you closer to God.... |
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20 Jul 10 - 02:29 PM (#2948461) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "Go for that Big Mac, CS - it'll blow your mind!" Ahh, but have you ever had a Zinger Tower? Hm? Fuck Big Gnostic Mac, There's some spicy zen.................... (etc.) |
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20 Jul 10 - 04:20 PM (#2948538) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray I draw the line at KFC, CS - but the weirdest burgers are those frozen self-microwave jobs you sometimes get in B-road petrol stations, In religious terms it's the Bogomil of the burger. |
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20 Jul 10 - 04:37 PM (#2948542) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Uncle_DaveO I've been bemused by the assertions by several here, something to the effect that "all meat products at McDonald's are raised in Ireland or England," and that all potatoes, ditto. Boy, that must make the cost of a Big Mac and fries (chips) sky-high in Japan, Australia, or India! And I don't understand how the McDonald's Dave Oesterreich |
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20 Jul 10 - 04:38 PM (#2948543) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "I draw the line at KFC, CS - but the weirdest burgers are those frozen self-microwave jobs" You draw the line Suibhne? Ye gods, if my poor Netto-burger scoffing mother heard me talking with your like, she'd have.. been confused. Are you proud of that? Are you? Mmm... |
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20 Jul 10 - 07:56 PM (#2948635) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: beeliner I like McD more than most of the posters on this thread. They were among the first to list all of the dietary data on their offerings, and their menu includes some very tasty and nutritious choices. In Europe they offer a veggie-burger, it has different names from country to country, Gemuese-Maec in Germany, Groentenburger in Holland, etc. Melts in your mouth, and quite moderate in fat and calories. In Germany, they offered tempura vegetables for a limited time, I couldn't go often enough, they were BEYOND delicious. The McRib, offered only occasionally in the USA, is the number one menu item in Germany. Walk through a German McD, you'll find about 60-75% of the patrons downing McRibs. Probably not the best choice nutritionally, though. |
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20 Jul 10 - 09:52 PM (#2948688) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief Do they have McBlutwurst in Germany? Q: Kebab in pitta??? That skewer do make it interesting. "Kebab" in Blighty is "Gyros" in the US. |
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20 Jul 10 - 10:00 PM (#2948691) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Ed T Why does the big M not try some of the local fare in other markets? Versus pushing the dated, regular boring stuff everywhere? I tried a Philly Steak in Boston that was excellent, but never saw it in other locals. BTW, the greek Gyro (often lamb) is a fast food dish, called a Donair (spiced, on the spit, ground beef on pita) in Canada, especially popular on the east coast...but, not at McDonalds. |
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21 Jul 10 - 01:19 AM (#2948742) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe "called a Donair" +> Donna +> Donna Kebab.... |
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21 Jul 10 - 02:03 AM (#2948756) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: beeliner Do they have McBlutwurst in Germany? No, but they have McKroket in Holland. YECHHHH! Aside from the McRib being the top-selling item, the main difference between American McD and German McD is that German McD serves beer. It's not very good beer, they don't want people coming in for the beer, and it's way down at the bottom of the menu in small print, but it's avaialble if you want it. |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:17 AM (#2948790) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie Remember when they started selling pre packaged salad as a "healthy" option. then had to admit the dressing had more transfat than the burgers.... Or the fact that their milk shakes are not suitable for vegetarian or adherents to the Islam faith... (Once you have got all the cuts you can off a chicken carcass, boiled the bones for stock, (at an industrial scale,) you render down the bits of skin, gristle and Lord knows what... The mush you are left with is used, (and to be fair, not just McD but most preprepared bulk supplies..) As thinkening agent for milk shake. Makes you think, especially as before they reverted to potato rather than maize, there was already more potato in the milk shake than in the chips! (Anyone any idea if the milk shakes contain any milk? Just curious, that's all.) |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:18 AM (#2948792) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu "It's not very good beer, they don't want people coming in for the beer" At least they're consistent, selling crap beer along with crap food. Still don't undestand why our American brothers and sisters would eat this shite when their own country is full of places selling excellent burgers and fries? "One doesn't go to McDonald's to eat, one goes to paint pictures of infinity and contemplate the joyful noise of eternity." Nah, one goes in to have a slash or a crap as at least the bogs are clean. All that "noise of eternity" stuff works better in the pub after a pint or two of Pale Rider and two packs of Taytos or dry roast. Thinking about it, our high street McDud's was closed down here in Macclesfield due to lack of interest (and the fact they opened a ';drive-thru' cafe up the road), so even if you wanted to open a franchise here you couldn't, as they've already closed it down. I used to like the gravy from KFC, but I stopped going because my Mum worked with a girl who part-timed there and their hygiene precautions were a little, er, unique (more hearsay Silas - call me a liar if you wish sunbeam). |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:46 AM (#2948804) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Silas OK, just for those who need it spelling out for them, this thread is, as far as I am aware, about McDs operations in the UK. Now you may or may not like the product, personally I can take it or leave it, but whether you like it or not, and I am talking about their burgers in particular, there is absoloutly no reason for these defamatory and possibly libellous comments about their products. I would suggest that the hygene standards and quality control are amongst the best in the industry, and as far as additives are concerned with burgers, just take a look at almost any supermarket pre-packed product. |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:51 AM (#2948806) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray You draw the line Suibhne? It's a chicken thang, CS - at least with a Big Mac you don't really know what you're dealing with; the experience is as essentially occult as the provenance of the corporeal burger. I like my junk food to be as remote as inhumanly possible. |
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21 Jul 10 - 09:41 AM (#2948999) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: beeliner Odd that there are so many negative statements from Brits here, when I'm in the UK (which is rarely) I seldom eat anywhere other than McD because the food in general there is so awful - but perhaps that's more a cultural thing. I gotta say, though, the ala carte breakfast bar at the Tesco in Barking is excellent, though the eggs are usually cold. The sausage there is the best I've ever tasted - God knows what's in it, and I'm not asking Him to share that knowledge with me. |
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21 Jul 10 - 12:42 PM (#2949133) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,mg I think the US is not full of places selling excellent burgers and fries..at least that you can find and know in advance what you are getting..quite a few places are extremely stingy with the meat and with McD's you kmow what you are getting..I generally go there when I am traveling and find them to be pretty good burgers. mg |
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21 Jul 10 - 12:43 PM (#2949135) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Stu Oh well, must have been a different US I went to. |
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21 Jul 10 - 01:33 PM (#2949175) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: jacqui.c while out west I discovered that McDonalds do a pretty good chicken salad, and at a reasonable price. As I don't eat protein and carbs together, and try to avoid wheat, finding something like this is a godsend for me. I must admit that McD's burgers would certainly not be on my list of preferred foods - they certainly don't make a burger that suits my taste. However, as an occasional treat when the kids were young we would go there - but only very occasionally. Most of us eat some sort of crap occasionally, so long as the general diet is relatively healthy I don't see that it makes a lot of difference. |
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21 Jul 10 - 02:33 PM (#2949214) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief Why does the big M not try some of the local fare in other markets? Am told that in Greece during Lent they sell a veggie burger called the McLent. Not that most Greeks take lenten fasting terribly seriously, if travelers' tales are true.... |
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21 Jul 10 - 03:22 PM (#2949251) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Ed T I find their soft ice cream...and small apple (and blueberry) pies, (that I believe are baked not deep fried, as at BK) fine. Anyone know if their ice cream is natural milk based and healthy, or if it is made of some kind of fake milk mixture? |
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21 Jul 10 - 03:23 PM (#2949253) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief Anyone know if their ice cream is natural milk based and healthy, or if it is made of some kind of fake milk mixture? It's real milk, at least in part. Don't know if it's healthy. They used to have a wonderful hot caramel sundae. It was fabulous. Then they switched from ice cream to lowfat yogurt, and from real caramel to nonfat caramel. Now it's dreadful. They used to make an insanely good fried cherry pie stick. Now they have a dreadfully dull baked apple pie stick. If I'm going to desecrate the temple of my body by having dessert, at least make it sinfully good. |
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21 Jul 10 - 03:41 PM (#2949264) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Q (Frank Staplin) Fast food in Britain is generally bad, but there were some good fish and chip outlets. They certainly know nothing of hamburgers. In North America, McD's burgers are pretty blah, but the meat is decent quality. Ask them to skip the dressing goo and then add ketchup; not bad at all. The lettuce and tomato are generally OK. I like to make my own burgers, with lean beef mixed with chopped onion, a good seasoning salt and dried oregano leaves, but travelling, a McD's is often the choice. For light fast food, there is a chain here (western Canada) called Opa- no imagination, but I guess all North Americans know the word and know roughly what is served. We ate lunch at one yesterday. The plate lunches are good, my salad had almost a full tomato,, cuke, fresh lettuce, green pepper and abundant slivers of good parmesan (preferred here to feta), and the dressing was fresh and good. The meat was lamb kebab, very tender, calamari, or a good spanikopita (sp?), wish a round of fresh pita, all for $8.95. Another good chain, Edo, with a variety of Japanese fare in addition to the fish bait, but I wish the Japanese would open a noodle chain here; there are some in Honolulu (branches from Tokyo) and I enjoyed them- the big bowl of noodles in a good broth with toppings of meat, fish, etc. Good noodles are an art. |
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21 Jul 10 - 03:52 PM (#2949271) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,mg here is FAQ from mcd http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/see_what_we_are_made_of.html |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:11 PM (#2949293) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Uncle_DaveO Here's GUESTmg's link, clickified: McD's FAQ Dave Oesterreich |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:39 PM (#2949316) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: gnu They all supply nutrition info. I think the Wendys double is 760 cal. Not too bad a treat once in a while if eaten in two meals. And, the Wendys burgers are the best I have had. I had a coupon for a McChicken a while back... not bad. |
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21 Jul 10 - 04:57 PM (#2949332) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief I have never, ever, ever been happy with the food I got at Wendy's. Every time I swear I'll never go back, then someone talks me into going back because their experience has always been so positive, ya-da, and each time I get crap food. Their burgers are leather. Their fries are goo. Never again. This time I mean it. |
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21 Jul 10 - 05:40 PM (#2949362) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Uncle_DaveO Mousethief, the only fast-food burger place I'll willingly go to is Wendy's. De Gustibus non est disputandum Dave Oesterreich PS: I might just add, I almost always order the Spicy Chicken Fillet Sandwich at Wendy's, though sometimes a burger, which is always both tasty and juicy. Never fries, so I can't testify to their fries quality.
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22 Jul 10 - 01:55 AM (#2949532) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: The Fooles Troupe "Most of us eat some sort of crap occasionally, so long as the general diet is relatively healthy I don't see that it makes a lot of difference. " I seem to remember in the McLibel case - a witness for Maccas admitted that you could eat cardboard as part of a balanced diet... :-P |
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22 Jul 10 - 06:01 PM (#2950146) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Q (Frank Staplin) Wendy's wasn't bad years ago, but the last I had was leather burger, wilted lettuce and dead tomato. Couldn'r eat it and won't go back MacDonalds lettuce and tomato is always fresh, and the meat is edible. Too many good restaurants in Calgary to bother about them much, however. Even the supermarkets have good fried chicken, all kinds of salads (esp. Safeway) and fresh sandwiches made to order. |
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22 Jul 10 - 08:44 PM (#2950274) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: catspaw49 Wendys had a pronounced drop in quality and service after Dave Thomas died. Spaw |
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23 Jul 10 - 06:43 AM (#2950508) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie Just noticed a post a few up saying that whenever they visit The UK, they eat McD because the food in The UK is generally awful. I suppose post war it was portrayed as such, and even Willie remembers the windows steaming up at home on a Sunday as mum prepared sunday lunch by massacring the veg... But it's a bit like the all wearing bowler hats, supping tea and beefeater being a career option.... Not a UK the inmates recognise. There are more Michelin starred restaurants in London than in the whole of France, or so I read recently. Even pubs have latched on to quality being a bigger draw than quantity. I moved into a village earlier this year, and our village has a place with four full time chefs and their staff and the next village along has a Michelin star chef. I must admit though, we are not a million miles from Scunthorpe, and a local tourist information booklet has an advert for a restaurant there with a picture of a dish with crinkle cut frozen chips on it (!) and the proud boast "Voted Best Restaurant in Europe." With an * after the claim. read down and the * denotes "as voted by readers of Scunthorpe Evening News." Laugh? I nearly bought a round... |
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23 Jul 10 - 09:07 PM (#2951087) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Q (Frank Staplin) Of course major centers like London, New York, San Francisco, etc. have restaurants on the Pelegrini and Michelin lists, but at best, for me these would be once-a-year special occasion stops. McDonalds provides a decent meal for under $10, as do a number of other eating spots. I think these are really the subject of this thread. And some of the top ones can be disappointing. One here in my town is on the World's top 100 list (Pelegrini), along with Ducesee at the Dorchester in London and the like. Being the only one on the Canadian prairies on the list, we went there for a special occasion. We would have had better food at many other local restaurants, for half the price or less. On the Michelin list for London, I might be able to afford Benares once a trip, but certainly not Darroze at the Connaught. |
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24 Jul 10 - 03:12 AM (#2951188) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) For those who like English country pubs (can't speak for other parts of the UK), there has been a decided improvement in the quality of pub food. If you're happy to spend a tenner or so for a meal, nice food akin to well home-cooked fare, can easily be had. I had the best chips of my life on the Welsh border recently. Skin on, fried in goose fat (it came with game pie and chard or something, but it was the chips that we remembered!). Seriously lovely pint of scrumpy too. There has been an upturn (due it seems to the missionary zeal of some telly chefs) in interest in traditional regional foods in the UK, which definitely makes going for a pub meal when on hols a tad more interesting than it might once have been. Otherwise, for anyone visiting Manchester's Norther Quarter, ditch McD and visit the Soup Kitchen there instead. Lunch for 3.50, can't be bad. |
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24 Jul 10 - 03:21 AM (#2951191) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "Missionary zeal of some telly chefs". This is now on telly, and exactly what I mean: http://www.hairybikers.com/index.php?hairybikers_food_tour_of_britain |
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24 Jul 10 - 03:41 AM (#2951197) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 1 But....McDonalds CARE about us, about the environment, about their food...I know this 'cos I've seen their organicy advert... What a Lovely McDonalds! Wonderful people! And I know, each time I pick up all the crap litter with their name on from down the end of my road that there's never been such a wonderful company who cares so much about us all... |
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24 Jul 10 - 06:12 PM (#2951575) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Q (Frank Staplin) McDonalds in Canada does care, and is well-known for its Ronald McDonald House charities, which helps children with serious disabilities and their families. There are 12 Houses in Canada which give support. There is one in my city; donations are welcomed. |
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24 Jul 10 - 06:22 PM (#2951580) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief Wonderful people! And I know, each time I pick up all the crap litter with their name on from down the end of my road that there's never been such a wonderful company who cares so much about us all... You can hardly blame McD's for people littering. There are plenty of other companies' food wrappers by the side of the road. |
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25 Jul 10 - 01:49 PM (#2951945) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Q (Frank Staplin) The chief source of litter in our area is Dairy Queen, which sells a large container of sweet drinks cheaply. Every kid coming home from school buys one and tosses the container on lawns, the street, alleys- anywhere except in a waste receptacle. Dunno if this outfit exists outside of Canada, but a lot of us would like to see it exported lock, stock and barrel. |
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26 Jul 10 - 03:46 AM (#2952264) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: beeliner Just noticed a post a few up saying that whenever they visit The UK, they eat McD because the food in The UK is generally awful. That was I, and based on a trip to England and Wales in 1998, and a later return visit to London. Most of the places I stayed had horrible food. The singular exception was the Tweed House in Blackpool, which served an enormous English breakfast every morning, included in the cost of the room, and everything absolutely delicious! Of course I don't doubt that there are many other such places, but how does one go about finding them other than trial and error? |
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26 Jul 10 - 04:15 AM (#2952267) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie Hi beeliner. Same as any other country I suppose. I travelled far and wide through my work and tried anything and everything. Small hotels do, I suppose, cater for a market and that market tends to be older people, brought up post war who expect meat & two veg. My family own a pub and started a rather bland stereotypical menu every Tuesday. I kid you not, there is a bus company who ferry people on day trips who make a point of stopping there for lunch now. The old dears lap it up. My Aunty owned a small hotel in Blackpool when I was a lad, and we got dragged there every summer. Yep, if I were to sum up the old UK culinary habits, I would take my childhood holidays as my reference. It is a pity you didn't experience good food. I now live in the place John Wesley was born and we get many buses full of people on a pilgrimage most weeks, (many of the American.) Now... there is a wonderful restaurant, a great hotel with excellent food, a nice tea shop I take our visitors to... And there are a few places I wouldn't exactly be proud of. I wonder of course how different tourists view our little town based on which place they noticed the queues being shorter and go in. makes you think, and also makes me stop before defending my knowledge against your experience! Similarly, I work regularly in central London and know how and where to avoid the tourist traps. Move a few yards from where you are lured to and London is the finest place in the world to eat in my opinion. (OK, I may add a few Western California places I visited the other year...) |
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26 Jul 10 - 07:25 AM (#2952359) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) "Of course I don't doubt that there are many other such places, but how does one go about finding them other than trial and error?" Like Willie sez, we too tend to avoid eating at Hotels. All faded decor, guests and food alike.. Yuck! I've often walked straight out the door after walking into an hotel for lunch. They're too often lacking in any charm or appeal other than the possible surrounding scenery. Go for an historic coaching Inn which has guest rooms instead. Not all of them still offer lodgings, but you can check out online in the area you're traveling to for those Inns which do. All the charm of an historic building (oak beams, creaky floorboards and ghost stories galore), much more genial 'traditional English pub' type atmosphere, and the food is likely to be much better too, IMO! |
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26 Jul 10 - 02:53 PM (#2952639) Subject: RE: BS: McDonalds Fast Food Restaurants From: mousethief In the days of the internet surely you should be able to look online and see what the locals like? Local newspapers' websites are a great place to start. |