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BS: Carl Sagan

13 Feb 07 - 04:41 PM (#1966486)
Subject: BS: Carl Sagan
From: GUEST,Ed

His work: opinions?


13 Feb 07 - 04:43 PM (#1966491)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Peace

What is it you want opinions about?


13 Feb 07 - 04:44 PM (#1966494)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Rapparee

I've got lots of opinions. And at a great sale price, too.


13 Feb 07 - 04:49 PM (#1966504)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: jeffp

Haven't heard any of his CDs.


13 Feb 07 - 05:15 PM (#1966531)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Captain Ginger

Like it. Interesting.
That do you?


13 Feb 07 - 05:30 PM (#1966545)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: pdq

...(when) Apple Computer began developing the Power Macintosh 7100. They chose the internal code name "Carl Sagan," in honor of the astronomer.

Though the project name was strictly internal and never used in public marketing, when Sagan learned of this internal usage, he sued Apple Computer to use a different project name...

Though Sagan lost the suit, Apple engineers complied with his demands anyway, renaming the project Butthead Astronomer.


13 Feb 07 - 05:34 PM (#1966550)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Don Firth

Solid background as an astronomer and a pioneer in the field of exobiology (now referred to as astrobiology), the serious study of the potential of extraterrestrial life. He was one of the major forces in setting up the SETI project. An examination of his background shows that his credentials are indisputable and his scientific achievements, particularly in the field of planetolgy, are impressive.

In my opinion, Sagan has done a great service by spreading his enthusiasm for science to a large number of people through his books and the award-winning Cosmos television series. He, like Isaac Asimov, had a real knack for explaining complex concepts in terms that most people willing to stretch their minds a bit could easily grasp, without watering down the concept.

He has taken some flak from other scientists who sneer at his "popularizing" of science, but frankly, I put that down to simple envy. I admire Sagan for the breadth and depth of his knowledge, his advocacy of the scientific method, his combination of wide-ranging concepts tempered by skeptical inquiry, and his humanism. I also admire him for his desire to share his enthusiasm for science, and his unique ability to communicate that enthusiasm to people at large. His untimely death from a form of leukemia at the age of 62 was a great loss.

Don Firth


13 Feb 07 - 07:17 PM (#1966683)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: michaelr

Long-time stoner, he was.


13 Feb 07 - 07:37 PM (#1966703)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: number 6

I though highly of his line of coffee brewers.

biLL


13 Feb 07 - 07:44 PM (#1966710)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: bobad

Coffee brewers???


13 Feb 07 - 07:51 PM (#1966721)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Alba

Any relation to Carole Bayer Sager, perhaps a Brother or Uncle ?


13 Feb 07 - 08:02 PM (#1966732)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Alba

Eh what was I NOT thinking when I posted above! Please no one answer that as it has been a difficult day for me in some ways..*smile*
Jude (The totally obscure!)


13 Feb 07 - 08:36 PM (#1966767)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: open mike

musical note:
His son, Bruce Sagan (a mathematician)
is an accomplished musician and teacher
in the Scandinavian music styles ,
playing nyckelharpa,
and he played a concert last sat.
in New York. He also moderates a
Scandinavian news group/list serve.

Concert in NYC with Bruce Sagan and Elaine Comparone

Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:30 PM | First Moravian Church

Hear traditional Swedish music and sonatas by Loiellet and Telemann, played by Bruce Sagan, nyckelharpa & Elaine Comparone, harpsichord.

Lexington Ave. & 30th St. (SW corner)New York City


In 1993 he recorded "Spelstundarna" with Andrea Hoag.

He is also music director of the Nordic Fiddles and Feet camp at
Buffalo Gap Community Camp in Capon Bridge, WV

He also plays music in the Balkan tradition.

so, now can this go back up above the b.s. line?


14 Feb 07 - 07:50 AM (#1967213)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Wolfgang

Carl Sagan's Life and Legacy (link goes to new Skeptical Inquirer article)

He is one of my science heroes.
However, sometimes he let his political opinions interfere with sound science. These were the weakest moments in his great career:

Quickly capping 363 oil well fires in a war zone is impossible. The fires would burn out of control until they put themselves out... The resulting soot might well stretch over all of South Asia... It could be carried around the world... [and] the consequences could be dire. Beneath such a pall sunlight would be dimmed, temperatures lowered and droughts more frequent. Spring and summer frosts may be expected... (Sagan, op-ed article 1991, about the impact of the first/second gulf war)

Wolfgang


14 Feb 07 - 08:02 AM (#1967229)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker

I'm amazed to read about the son, Bruce Sagan and his connection with Balkan and Scandinavian music (and Buffalo Gap)!

I was totally mesmerized by the television series, COSMOS, which I watched in black and white. I loved the explanation of the "water thief", an ancient tool for collecting water though full of holes itself. I loved how the great music was integrated in the shows, hearing "Air for the G String" for the first time. It was one of my favorite beginner-piano pieces, but I'd never heard it done by an orchestra.

Living in the DC area, I was fortunate enough (in perhaps 1980?) to attend a talk that Carl Sagan and my idol Isaac Asimov gave together on the need for future space exploration. I miss them both.

Linda


14 Feb 07 - 08:09 AM (#1967232)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Alec

"We are as butterflies,
who flutter for a day
and think it is forever"
Carl Sagan.
I love that quote.


14 Feb 07 - 08:22 AM (#1967245)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: John Hardly

Carly Sagan was, as I remember, married to James Taylor for a while.


14 Feb 07 - 02:15 PM (#1967645)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: mmm1a

Carly Simon was married to james Taylor.
   
                mmm1a


14 Feb 07 - 03:44 PM (#1967731)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: JohnInKansas

Carl Sagan, Isaac Asimov, and George Gamow may be the three most guilty of titilating young science wannabees of the past century.

Yet some of our universities don't seem to think it's very important to be able to write, clearly or otherwise, - if you're "just gonna be a scientist."

John


15 Feb 07 - 04:35 AM (#1968296)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: skarpi

Hallo all , Bruce came to my house last year I think and I got
some of his cds , what good man he is as his wife . We had a great time
here at my home I hope I geta change to meet them again .

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


15 Feb 07 - 06:01 AM (#1968360)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Geoff the Duck


15 Feb 07 - 10:51 PM (#1969320)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: GUEST,Dickey

I loved his Cosmos on TV but I remember his prediction of a nuclear winter or global cooling because of the oil well fires in Kuwait in 1991 was a turkey.


16 Feb 07 - 12:04 AM (#1969352)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Alba

That is cool Skarpi...
Jude


16 Feb 07 - 02:22 AM (#1969386)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: open mike

oh yes, that international meeting was arranged by yours truly..
i saw that Bruce was indeed on the way to Iceland and wanted to
check out some of the music scene there....so, ta da@ networking
happens! hoor5ay for the mudcat and the internet!


16 Feb 07 - 12:24 PM (#1969913)
Subject: RE: BS: Carl Sagan
From: Donuel

I finer has never breathed.
Michiu Kaku is currently filling Carl's popular niche.