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We need a word for finger-squeaks

24 Feb 07 - 11:40 AM (#1977989)
Subject: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Cool Beans

What do you call the squeaky sound fingers make on guitar strings when changing chords or notes? We need a word for this. I thought of slideburns. Any ideas?


24 Feb 07 - 11:44 AM (#1977996)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Nick

What about 'squeak'?


24 Feb 07 - 12:03 PM (#1978016)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,Jim

I've always called it "string noise".

I heard a story, probably an urban legend, but interesting.

Ronnie Hawkins was recording when he said to his guitar player,"What's that sound when you take a solo?"
The Guitar player said,"That's just string noise."
Ronnie said,"I don't like it. Play it again without that noise."
The GP said,"You can't play it without that noise. Even Andre Segovia makes that noise."
Ronnie answered,"And you'll notice he doesn't play in my band."


24 Feb 07 - 12:21 PM (#1978048)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: John MacKenzie

Slithers


24 Feb 07 - 12:29 PM (#1978056)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Bernard

'Eeek'...!

The only 'cure' is flatwound strings... tried them... once!


24 Feb 07 - 01:13 PM (#1978103)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: wysiwyg

"urk"s

~S~


24 Feb 07 - 01:16 PM (#1978105)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: SharonA

"Chirps"


24 Feb 07 - 01:21 PM (#1978110)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: treewind

I thought it was was usually called fret noise (e.g. by sound and recording engineers).

Yes, I know it's not all made by frets; most of it comes from rubbing wound strings, but everybody knows what you mean when you call it that.

Anahata


24 Feb 07 - 01:22 PM (#1978111)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: wysiwyg

Is it from damp fingers?

~S~


24 Feb 07 - 01:25 PM (#1978117)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Georgiansilver

Sliding fingers = slingers.


24 Feb 07 - 01:25 PM (#1978120)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Early Julian Bream recordings were bad for string squeak. He learned a better hand position and squeaks are almost absent from later recordings. He was interviewed about this, but I forget the name of the artist who helped him.


24 Feb 07 - 01:31 PM (#1978129)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Ebbie

On the plus side: I read once that patrons of Segovia's concerts tried to get seats up front so they could hear his fingers.


24 Feb 07 - 01:32 PM (#1978133)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Spot

Allo...

    Always referred to it as squinkin', for some inane reason.... :-)

                Regards to all.... Spot


24 Feb 07 - 01:49 PM (#1978142)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,Sharmagne

Chet Atkins used to take a little "nose grease" from the sides of his nose or from behind his ears and rub it on the strings to eliminate string sqeaks.

Many people use Crisco, fretease, baby powder or corn starch to eliminate it but I rather like it!


24 Feb 07 - 01:57 PM (#1978148)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Bill D

I was listening to the first Norman Blake album with someone many years ago...when it was finished, she said..."You know....I didn't hear a single squeak!" She was right.


24 Feb 07 - 03:40 PM (#1978246)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: JohnInKansas

Most such noises are the result of exciting the longitudinal vibration of the string rather than the transverse vibration normally intended.

As a very rough approximation, for most strings, especially those with a steel core, the longitudinal frequency is approximately 6 times the transverse, giving a "squeek" about 2 and a fraction octaves above the note being played.

One might claim to be playing "superharmonics" of the note. "for the pleasure of the dogs in the audience" ... ? . ?

"squink" is as good a name as any, perhaps.

John


24 Feb 07 - 05:28 PM (#1978352)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Deckman

A hundred years ago, when I played steel string, (yes, I actually did) I was very bothered by string noise. First I went to flat wound strings, "First Nighters" as I recall, which reduced the string noise but it also severly dinished the quality of the string tone. I then found a can of "spray" that I used for a while. It really helped to reduce the string noise. I imagine it's still very available ... I 'dunno! Bob


24 Feb 07 - 06:41 PM (#1978418)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Murray MacLeod

"Fast-Fret" eliminates all the string noise imo.

and I like Cool Beans original suggestion of "slideburns".


25 Feb 07 - 07:21 AM (#1978713)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Muttley

Finger -squeaks: FUEAKS!

Personally I like 'em they add 'character' - long live 'fueaks'!

Muttley


25 Feb 07 - 09:24 AM (#1978784)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,tony geen

Classical violinists talk about 'shifts', as in 'you can't hear his shifts'.

No need for any new word.


25 Feb 07 - 12:30 PM (#1978930)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: John of the Hill

Spot, The first think that popped into my mind was squinks. I wonder if that term is floating around somewhere but I don't recall hearing it.

John


25 Feb 07 - 03:08 PM (#1979119)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Bert

Ground wound strings are better than flat wound.

But lifting your fingers is the best way of avoiding them completely.


25 Feb 07 - 03:19 PM (#1979133)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Elaine Green

I've heard it called 'speak,' but I'm not sure how it's derived.

I've been using D'addario half wounds lately, and they've helped a lot. A little speak is actually good, giving a live, human, and authentic feel, but too much (and I'm a lazy player for sure) is hideous.


25 Feb 07 - 04:27 PM (#1979189)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Muttley

Now that I re-read the posts - I rather like 'squinks', too - what the hell! Long live 'squinks'

Muttley


25 Feb 07 - 06:51 PM (#1979317)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Jock O' Dreams

"Skreeks" would be good as it's quite phonic!

Jim McAdams


26 Feb 07 - 09:56 AM (#1979825)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Scrump

"String squeaks" => "Streaks"


27 Feb 07 - 06:14 AM (#1980616)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,ib48

Squinging


27 Feb 07 - 07:49 AM (#1980665)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Mr Red

onomatopoeically speaking

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeek

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeks (pl)

just about sums it up.


27 Feb 07 - 08:02 AM (#1980680)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Mr Red

A friend of mine had a lubricant stick. A bit like a squat fat deoderant stick (remember them?)

Basically it was grease by any other name. Someone used it on a violin - oops.


27 Feb 07 - 06:07 PM (#1981229)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Artful Codger

freep


27 Feb 07 - 07:49 PM (#1981306)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,cmt49

Try Elixir strings. Apart from lack of squeak / squink / zeek, they sound and last better than any I have tried (on a Martin, a friend tried them on his Gibson and they sounded very ordinary for some reason).


27 Feb 07 - 08:00 PM (#1981315)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: pdq

I made up my own term: skritch (rhymnes with itch).


27 Jan 08 - 10:47 AM (#2246139)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Cool Beans

A year later....
Tipsqueaks!


27 Jan 08 - 11:15 AM (#2246161)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,DonMeixner

Back in those 1960's when I was getting interested in folk music I bought every album I could find. Some of those purchases I regret but not many. I played Autoharp then but two of my friend were guitarists.
We were listening to Joan Baez's early albums, Vanguard records maybe, some songs of which were absolutely infested with those sounds. We called them "Baezes" as we didn't hear them often from anybody else.

" Hey Cathy, that sounded good."
"Yup, and no Baezing at all."

Don


27 Jan 08 - 03:41 PM (#2246390)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: breezy

The squeak that annoys me is the one as the palm slides up the back of the neck rather than on the string side

I find Kate Rusby's 'Viiage Green P soc' is spoilt by it when a little talcum powder would have eliminated it, as well as wearing away the varnish!

IMHO


27 Jan 08 - 03:41 PM (#2246391)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Megan L

Don't we already have one LTS


27 Jan 08 - 05:20 PM (#2246484)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Ned Ludd

Lts's squeaks are not done with strings.....


28 Jan 08 - 01:27 PM (#2247140)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: Geordie-Peorgie

When my youngest Rock chick was a wee bairn she was liteneing to me play nursery rhymes for her and she said "Whassat noise?"

I explained (as best I could) and she said,

"I like it - It's 'gweekie'"

And 'gweekie' it became


28 Jan 08 - 07:20 PM (#2247470)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: GUEST,van lingle

Liz the Squink?

Squink is the word we always used where I grew up, around Washington, D.C. Doc Watson's first solo LP was full of them.


13 Mar 08 - 09:18 AM (#2287287)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: moongoddess

I rather like the term "skritch" myself, as posted earlier. I think they add to a song played well.


13 Mar 08 - 09:24 AM (#2287289)
Subject: RE: We need a word for finger-squeaks
From: pavane

It is defined in General MIDI as 'Guitar Fret Noise' sound code 121
(even if it not from a guitar, I suppose)