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28 Feb 07 - 08:57 AM (#1981705) Subject: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish The video's out! Yup...now you can watch 'Roots' whilst listening to it on your CD at the same time...and catch glimpses of Eden too, in more ways than one....splutter! ;0) (That's a joke Moaning Minnies...just a joke..before you all fall over sideways like Mrs. Doyle!) ;0) All together now.... "Now it's been twenty five years or more....I've roamed this land from shore to shore..." (taken from 'Roots' by Steve Knightley) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5h4PFBuzvw And by the way...'Roots' should have won the Best Original Song without a shadow of a doubt!!!! At Abbotsbury I saw Karine singing that song, and it's very lovely don't get me wrong...but it merely got a polite round of applause at the end. When Show of Hands, Spiers & Boden and Simon Emmerson performed 'Roots' one thousand people stood up as one...and they cheered as I have NEVER heard Show of Hands fan cheer before!!! But...NOTHING surprises me about the Folk Awards...or John Leonard...or The BBC.... It was very wrong, in my opinion, to overlook such an incredibly passionate song, which as such an inspirational effect on so many people who hear it... "Haul away boys, let them go, out in the wind and the rain and snow, We've lost more than we'll ever know round the rocky shores of England" Lizzie :0) |
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28 Feb 07 - 09:00 AM (#1981709) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Sorry...should clarify...Karine sang her song 'Daisy' at Abbotsbury, which was the song that won. ...and that should read 'fanS' above and er...not 'fan'...after Show of Hands, as there is/are far more than one of us...Giggle! ;0) |
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28 Feb 07 - 09:12 AM (#1981721) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie Lizzie please do us and yourself a big favour. We have heard of SoH, we know what song won the Folk Award, we have already discussed John Leonard's foibles on here. We also know where to find U Tube. Do us the favour of checking to see if anyone else has posted the same information here already. Your girlish enthusiasm is all very well albeit a bit long lasting, but please don't assume that others share your fads and fancies, and please don't proselytise on here, you are preaching to the converted. Your tendency to swamp boards with unnecessary and over flowery information of a personal kind may just be the reason why you were banned from other sites. Please don't abuse the openness of Mudcat to flaunt your fey fancies. Giok |
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28 Feb 07 - 10:17 AM (#1981781) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Scrump Thanks Lizzie, but I think we've had these discussions before. I'm a fan of SOH myself, but your attempts to 'convert' the non-believers here are, I'm afraid, doomed to failure, and will probably have the opposite effect to the one you seek to achieve. Best to just enjoy the music and don't worry about the others here. (If you haven't already, maybe you should consider joining the SOH fan group Longdogs, where you will find lots of like-minded people who will be happy to discuss SOH and their music all day.) |
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28 Feb 07 - 01:34 PM (#1981978) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate "your attempts to 'convert' the non-believers here are, I'm afraid, doomed to failure, and will probably have the opposite effect to the one you seek to achieve." Scrump - it's not as if she hasn't been told that over and over and over again on more than one board! It seems that nobody can actually convince her that there is truth in what many people have told her more than once. It just has to be seen by her as a vendetta ... and you have no doubt now joined the ranks of the Moaning Minnies like many others of us!!! |
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28 Feb 07 - 02:18 PM (#1982020) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Liam Almost nine thousand views for "Roots" just on YouTube. That is impressive for something that has only been up less than a month. That is three times as many people as have viewed even the most popular of the Bellowhead clips and one third more than have looked at Karine Polwart's highest scoring video. Says something about how much interest the song is generating in the world at large, if not in the closed world of the folk awards. |
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28 Feb 07 - 02:23 PM (#1982026) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie Were those viewing it all folkies, or were there other motives at work? G. |
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28 Feb 07 - 02:24 PM (#1982028) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish I'm not trying to convert anyone...I just posted a link about a folk band on a folk board....I think I'm allowed to do that... :0) Great news about those viewing figures though! Wow! nearly 9,000! YES! :0) |
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28 Feb 07 - 03:11 PM (#1982063) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,The Devonian ... and exchanges on these boards have been so interesting without Lizzie. Back to Sidders gal. Keep an eye on that wreck off the coast while the rest of us get on with debating life, the universe and Show of Hands. |
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01 Mar 07 - 03:52 AM (#1982475) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Dave Hanson The cornish binge poster strikes again, aaarrgh eric |
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01 Mar 07 - 04:21 AM (#1982489) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie I suspect her motives are jingoistic rather than ethnomusical! G. |
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01 Mar 07 - 04:42 AM (#1982500) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: woodsie Why are you lot so hostile to this person? So what if a thread has been posted before on the same subject - you don't have to read what you don't want to read. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:11 AM (#1982520) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Scrump Firstly, as I said in my posting above, I am a fan of Show of Hands myself, having seen them live several times last year and earlier this year (the last time just over a week ago). So I don't consider myself one of the 'Moaning Minnies' referred to above - I think this refers to the people who don't like SOH and/or Roots, and I'm not in that category. But I was trying to persuade Lizzie Cornish that her trying to persuade people here on this forum that SOH and Roots are brilliant, is a waste of effort. Worse than that, I believe it is counter-productive, because she has tried before many times and alienated certain members of this forum, to the extent that she has turned them against SOH and Roots. As an SOH fan myself, I don't want this to continue, so I was trying to persuade her to stop posting on the subject, as I believe it does SOH more harm than good. Roots didn't win the Folk Award for best original song, whether Lizzie or anyone else likes it or not. SOH have moved on, and I think we should too. And slagging off Karine Polwart (I'm a a fan of hers too - and why not? she writes some superb songs) is not the way to persuade people how good SOH are. There's room for them all. Of course it is entirely up to Lizzie if she wishes to persist in this line, but I hope she will consider my advice. Lizzie, if you want to discuss it with me via PM please feel free to contact me. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:12 AM (#1982521) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo . . . wasted our time, our energy and done in our collective heads. But it stops now, right? |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:16 AM (#1982526) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Jack Campin Try clicking on Lizzie's name to bring up the list of her postings and read them. You'll soon get the point. |
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01 Mar 07 - 07:30 AM (#1982601) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Mornin' Guys! :0) Now listen you lot....stop getting your knickers in such a twist else your eyes will start to cross! The Moaning Minnies are those who moan. 'Tis perfectly simple. They moan..er...irrationally about Show of Hands, Seth Lakeman et al...and at me... I've heard that the NHS has been plagued in recent weeks by a sudden surge of Moaning Minnieitis, as I'd 'disappeared' and they had no-one to vent their spleen over. So, in order to save the NHS some money, so that they can have yet another billion pound computer system installed...I decided to come back and thus relieve the various Moaning Minnie Pustules that have been forming in various places around the country... ;0) I merely posted the details about Show of Hands superb new video...because I llllllllllllove it!! :0) Knowing how many people read Mudcat who ARE NOT Moaning Minnies...I thought they may enjoy seeing it. A very cheerful Good Morning to them all as well! :0) xxx Those who love Show of Hands are free to love them, those who don't are also free. You regard it as OK for you to have your say, vitriolic though it may be...(in my ever so 'umble opinion of course).....but I too am also free to write what I want... If you don't like Show of Hands it's probably best not to come into a thread entitled er..'Show of Hands'... chuckle! ;0) Be fair...I'm open and honest. I could have started a thread entitled '100 great things about Cecil Sharp' and you'd have all leapt in here, excited and over the moon only to find........'Roots' The Video.... 'Scus me whilst I roll over on the floor spluttering wildly for a moment....... :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) Oh..that's better... :0) Now..where was I? Oh yes...Show of Hands! Do you know that it's nearly time for their Royal Albert Hall gig! Oh...I am SO looking forward to that. We're going up on a coach with some of The Longdogs, it's going to be such great fun! AND...the lady from Exeter Museum is going too! I know! Isn't that amazing! I went in there the other day, with the kids and we went and had a pootle round the shop...and guess what music was playing in there? Go on...GUESS? :0) YAY!!! Show of Hands....Their 'Country Life' CD was fair belting out...and...it got even better...because I ran over to the till, grinned widely from ear to ear...told the lady and her daughter how lovely it was to hear their music and then I noticed that the counter was covered with all their other CDs too! :0) :0) :0) See...you can learn SO MUCH in a Museum! ;0) Right...'tis time to go down and steal some more biscuits from The Napoli now...Do you know a man was arrested for stealing an orange at Branscombe the other day! SHEESH!! 1984 is here guys...several decades late..but...it's here... "Haul Away Boys!" http://show-of-hands.tripod.com/index.html Lizzie :0) |
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01 Mar 07 - 08:10 AM (#1982636) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Liam I suspect that Show of Hands may find Lizzie's continued over-enthusiasm for Roots somewhat less disturbing than the political associations of some of their new supporters. Someone has posted a link to www.justiceforengland.com on their official message board. The aspirations of justiceforengland look rather innocent until you see that its website in turn is linked to the likes of The Freedom Association, who when I last checked used to be run by people who thought Margaret Thatcher was a bit too wet for their tastes. There is however some light comedy there too. There is also a link on justiceforengland to a site called "We Are The English", complete with a picture of Winston Churchill. I don't think anyone has told "We Are The English" that Winnie was only half-English and that his other half was just a bit American. They are going to be just so disappointed when the penny finally drops. On the other hand, they've only had a century and a bit to find that out so perhaps they never will. Funnily enough, the minor stumbling block of his transatlantic parentage aside, I thought Winston won the BBC poll for "Greatest Ever Briton" not "Greatest Ever Englishperson", so I'm not quite sure why "We The English" have cyber-napped him. |
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01 Mar 07 - 10:34 AM (#1982752) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Philippa have they got a song about a "Longdog" (sighthound)? what are the lyrics? |
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01 Mar 07 - 10:42 AM (#1982766) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Scrump Yes, the song is called (strangely enough) "Longdog" and it was on their album Dark Fields. |
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01 Mar 07 - 11:08 AM (#1982795) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Here you go Phillipa, you can listen to the whole song here....although the quality isn't brilliant I'm afraid.... Show Of Hands Songs And if anyone is 'out there' from the Show of Hands site...Any chance of those songs having better sound quality? Also the link is wrong in that it has an 's' after the 'http' part, which won't work if people copy it and send it on....I worked that out and always remove it first. ;0) Oh and Scrump...well I'd love to be a Longdog again, but sadly one of the Moaning Minnies, the chief one actually, who started all the BBC bad feeling off, followed me in there and caused havoc. I left because I didn't want that site damaged by the kind of unpleasantness you see all around me on here and the BBC. It wasn't fair to everyone. I said that I would go back eventually, after lying low for a while. However, I also said I'd go back under another name...but the more I thought about this, the dafter it got. I'm hopeless at writing as someone else, and would have been dead easy to spot. I also was very miffed at having to 'hide' from this deeply unpleasant person...and so...I went back under my name and was then put into pre-mod for doing that. I won't write anywhere under pre-mod anymore as it reeks of control freaks I'm afraid. And the man who runs Longdogs was, in my opinion, out of order for behaving like that. But, it's his site so there you go. I've never written in Longdogs since and never will do again. And although I'm in there now as 'Manitoba' I never visit that site any longer. I merely enrolled under that name as there was someone I was trying to locate in Longdogs once. And that is one more reason why some of the Moaning Minnies sicken me. Because their constant bullying follows me. Why? I've no idea. All I know is that Longdogs was a great place to be, full of fun and there was a lovely group of people there who all hit it off wonderfully with each other. That's now gone. 'Whacko's Corner' where we all used to frolick around having fun and 'live chatting' is barely touched these days. At it's height it had over 26,000 viewings I believe, I could be wrong there, but I don't think I am...The Milometer on Whacko's has now been turned back by the way. I also removed nearly all of my posts, as I felt 'under attack' from that particular Moaning Minnie at the time...which is why there are so many closed 'edited' posts from me in there. A great shame and so deeply unnecessary too. It was the same person who then carried on her campaign on the BBC board and created havoc and distrust over there too...And as far as Show of Hands go..well...you know that story. As Diane and her 'accomplice' (who shall remain nameless these days) poured scorn over Show of Hands and their music, I wrote more and more in their favour. It really became 'The Battle Of Show Of Hands' on the BBC board. That battle is now over...but I and others, are still free to discuss Show of Hands, as we would discuss any other band or musician. This thread was merely about their new video...not a big thing in the Wheel of Life really is it...yet look at the reaction to such a simple thing. Show of Hands Suppression? You bet! But it never works...and far from putting people off, quite a few people have come over to my Myspace page now, to tell me that they've been to see Show of Hands BECAUSE of all the controversy that took place on that board...and that can only be a good thing. Whether they like them or not doesn't worry me, they're free to make their own decisions, and like whomsoever they please, but at least they have made the effort to go along and see for themselves. Anyway...I very much hope that you enjoy 'Longdog' Phillipa :0) Apologies for rambling...it goes with my brain pattern I'm afraid! :0) Lizzie :0) |
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01 Mar 07 - 11:56 AM (#1982829) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris Liam, I guess they will be the same folks who in the early 90s took up Elton John's rousing "I was made in England" as their anthem - until they found out what it was about. I pay no attention to the warped thinking and posturing of the politically extreme, ever since I discovered that my "Emptyhanded" was favoured by a white supremacist bunch in the States. Hell, they had the lyrics, they could read - their problem, not mine. |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM (#1982832) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo My accomplice? No, I ride alone and speak only for myself. Y'see, with LC it's ALWAYS somebody else's fault, even if she has to invent a scapegoat. Never hers. Oh no. The only thing I don't like about SoH is . . . Show of Hands, and especially Roots which is crap musically and is, lyrically, socially divisive to the point of racism. What really irritates me is that they could clearly be so much better but can't be arsed. Presumably because they don't need to. They can make a living by not bothering that much. I deplore that. Phil Beer is a fine musician and I rather liked Alianza. Same story with the Lakeperson, sadly now wrongly tarred and discredited as a result of the Smoothies' incompetence. The Lakeperson Boy Band was quite good, once. Then it went downhill because the Bros decided they wanted to be pop singers. Nowt wrong with that but it doesn't interest me that much. And a small proportion of the yoof LC seems so keen to cultivate is being fed the notion that this is trad music. It isn't. We all know who these people are and did so long before LC came along and imagined she has 'discovered' them. It's all so tedious, the musicians are embarrassed, everyone else is bored and it has to STOP. |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:02 PM (#1982834) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Canadienne Well perhaps assuming they could read was a little presumptuous George :) |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:04 PM (#1982836) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo . . . and I've never been anywhere near Longdogs, Bimey, whyever would I? |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:09 PM (#1982840) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris LOL Canadienne! |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:13 PM (#1982843) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish I didn't 'discover' Show of Hands..they'd been around for a decade or more before I merely 'discovered' I loved their music via Sidmouth, as well you know. And WHO ARE YOU, said in my best Alice in Wonderland Caterpillar voice to decide who people should know about and who they shouldn't? Were you there when Bob plugged in? Did you rant and rage at him in the 60's and yell 'Judas'...and did you scream at Fairport too when they first started to perform Liege & Lief? It wouldn't surprise me...it's exactly the same thing. I am so fed up of your patronizing "I AM the Folk World" attitude Diane...and that of your pals too.... I suggest you take it to a place where the shade is shadin' all day long. :0) Oh and about your statement concerning musicians being embarrassed, I've had quite a few lovely messages from musicians over on Myspace, who are anything BUT embarrassed. Sorry to disappoint you Sweetums... Thank yoooooo Lizzie |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:15 PM (#1982846) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish >>> . . and I've never been anywhere near Longdogs, Bimey, whyever would I? <<<< Sigh! I wasn't talking about Yooooooooo! I was talking about McFairy.... |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:19 PM (#1982855) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Guest Spent alovely evening with a young band who were playing at my club last night, Over dinner, the name of LC came up. Talk about seeing the whites of their eyes, not to mention the groans. They are just so pleased that they haven't popped into her eyesight yet. But, it's probably only a matter of time. They will be keeping their heads down. |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:21 PM (#1982858) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie Bread Pudding 225g (8oz) Stale Bread 110g (4oz) Currants, Raisins or Sultanas 50g (2oz) Brown Sugar 50g (2oz) Butter ½ tsp Mixed Spice 1 Egg Milk Pre-heat oven to 170°C: 325°F: Gas 3 Break bread into small pieces; soak in cold water at least 1 hour Strain and squeeze out as dry as possible. Place into a basin and mash with a fork. Add the dried fruit, sugar, mixed peel and mixed spice, mixing well. Add the egg and enough milk to enable the mixture to drop easily from a spoon. Place into a greased baking tin. Bake for about an hour or until slightly firm to the touch. When done turn out on to a hot dish. Turn out dredge with sugar and serve hot with custard, or allow to cool. |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:22 PM (#1982859) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo did you scream at Fairport too when they first started to perform Liege & Lief? Of course not, why would I when I'd helped them out in a small way in the C# library when they were researching the music. Mind you, I did scream at the Beatles some five years earlier . . . |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:25 PM (#1982863) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish >>>>Same story with the Lakeperson, sadly now wrongly tarred and discredited as a result of the Smoothies' incompetence.<<<<<< PAH! That's rich coming from someone who went out of their way on the old BBC board and the new one to discredit Seth Lakeman at every turn! SHEESH! HOW do you sleep nights? And you just have to be related to this chappie...without a doubt! Liars R Us ;0) |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:34 PM (#1982874) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie Limpet Pie Pastai Brenig Limpets Shortcrust Pastry 110g (4oz) Streaky Bacon 2 Hard Boiled Eggs 1 Onion Milk or Egg (Optional) Cook the limpets until just tender. Cut the bacon into cubes and fry lightly. Peel and thinly slice the onions. Pre-heat oven to 180°C: 350°F: Gas 4. Line a pie dish with thinly rolled short crust pastry. Fill dish with alternate layers of limpets, bacon, sliced egg and onion. Cover with a pastry lid, brush with milk or beaten egg. Bake for 30 minutes. Reduce the heat to low and cook for a further 30 minutes. |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:35 PM (#1982878) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Very little 'pops into my eyesight' Guest Guest...(Strange sense of deja vu with your name there) I have the most terrible vision...but luckily God invented someone who invented contact lenses...but you know what happens when my contact lenses are out...my ears take over! :0) Yup! That's why I knew that Seth was a star the moment I heard him... I'll tell you a young band to look out for too..you may like them at your club... LOMAN They went down a storm at Sidmouth last year.... I've got so many names I could give you too...I did actually start a thread on the BBC about Young Folkies, but er...the BBC closed it down, took the title and main post away... That's what the BBC do these day...Actively do NOT support musicians any more. They've just removed an entirely harmless thread on Ashley Hutchings e petition that someone started up to get him knighted for his services to folk music and dance, for no other reason that I started it...as 'Shesoeverthere'....some prat obviously went running to teacher screeching "Miss Miss...she's back!" They'll now remove harmless and supportive posts on The Rainbow Chasers and Bollin Morris as well....but spite far outweighs support over there amongst the BBC staff and some posters and people in the folk world... A very great shame, because the folk world that I know has nothing to do with the attitude that's on this thread and over at the BBC. The BBC should hang their heads in shame at how they're behaving... Ho hum.... I think I'll be 'Shesbehindyou' next.... ;0) |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:37 PM (#1982881) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Look MacKenzie...'Tis no good you trying to impress me with your Culinary skills my deario....for I am promised to another.... Good try though! ;0) I prefer the Bread Pudding to the Limpets though...they kind of remind me of The Moaning Minnies... !!!! OOOH! Do you have any recipes for Moaning Minnie Pie at all...I know exactly where to find the ingredients for that! ;0) Mind you...it would give you awful indigestion...Chuckle! |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:38 PM (#1982882) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Canadienne do you have a grouse Lizzie? well then here ya go - 2 Grouse, trussed 285ml (½ pint) Chicken Stock 125g (4oz) Mushrooms 2 Carrots 1 Celery Stalk 1 Onion 75g (3oz) Butter 2 tbsp Whisky 1 tbsp Redcurrant Jelly Pre-heat oven to 180°C: 350°F: Gas 4. Chop the onions and mushrooms, dice the carrot and celery. Season the grouse well with salt and pepper. Heat the butter in a flameproof casserole and brown the grouse on all sides. Remove the grouse and reserve. Add the vegetables to the casserole and cook over a low heat until tender but not browned. Return the grouse, add the whisky, flame it - allow the flames to disappear. Add the stock and roast, covered, for 1¼ hours. When cooked remove and use poultry shears to cut the grouse in half, place on a serving dish, keep warm. Strain the sauce into a small saucepan, boil until it thickens, add the redcurrant jelly. Spoon sauce over before serving. hope that helps - nothing else seems to |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:54 PM (#1982895) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish I have a Grouch....is that any good? I could have it for pudding, to follow the Moaning Minnie Pie.. ;0) OoooH Nooooo! I was doing OK until I had to cut the Grouch up with Grouch Scissors...and now I've come over all queasy! I may not be safe setting fire to the whisky either...but thanks anyway Canadienne... This could turn into quite a BBC Buffet! Anyone have any John Leonard Recipes at all? ;0) |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:58 PM (#1982899) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Canadienne hear's one you may appreciate Lizzie - substitute any "star" of your choice Star gazy pie |
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01 Mar 07 - 12:59 PM (#1982900) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie Acid Drops 450g (1lb) Sugar 120ml (4 floz) Warm Water 1 level tsp Tartaric Acid ¼ tsp Cream of Tartar Lemon Essence Place the sugar, water and cream of tartar into a heavy bottomed saucepan, heat gently until the sugar has completely dissolved. Boil the mixture without stirring, to a temperature of 154°C (310°F). Remove from the heat and immerse the base of the saucepan in cold water to prevent further cooking. Mix the tartaric acid with a little warm water and a few drops of the lemon essence, stirring well. Add to the sugar mixture stirring to ensure that it is fully combined. Allow to cool for a few minutes. Use a teaspoon which has been lightly oiled, place drops of the mixture onto a oiled baking sheet or marble slab. Allow the acid drops to cool and set. Then wrap in cellophane and store in an airtight container. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:11 PM (#1982912) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Oh Canadiaenne....Now THAT is a wonderful site!! Cornish through and through! Thanks for that..... MacKenzie...I realise that hearing that I'm promised to another is obviously breaking your heart, but....Acid Drops are SO not going to impress me... Apart from anything else...there's a POUND of SUGAR in there..and I'm diabetic... Or..is that the reason.....???? MacKenzie! I'm ashamed of you! Death By Acid Drops is not a nice way to go... ;0) I'm going back to Canada and my Star Gazing Pie... See....all things from Canada are wonderful...XX |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:16 PM (#1982919) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris Wait for me, wait for me! Aubergine salad/dip - (melitzanosalata) INGREDIENTS 6 large aubergines 3-6 cloves of garlic to taste 1 tablespoon olive oil 2 teaspoons vinegar salt METHOD Wash the aubergines, place them in a flat oven dish and grill them under high heat (if barbecuing, just stick them on the BBQ while the heat is still too fierce for the rest of the food to go on) making sure to turn them round until their skins are well, if not totally, charred. Take them out and let them cool. Meanwhile, peel the cloves of garlic and press them through a garlic press (or chop as finely as you can). Slice the charred aubergines lengthwise and scoop out their cooked interior into a bowl with a spoon, avoiding the bits of charred skin as much as you can (it is not unhealthy, just unsightly) and letting most of the oily natural liquids of the aubergine drain away. Add the pressed/chopped garlic, olive oil, vinegar and salt to taste. Beat the mixture into a coarse but uniform consistency with a fork – I use two spoons sliding across each other scissor fashion. If you want, you can put it through a food processor, but then it will become a smooth paste, whereas the coarse consistency is more "ethnic"! Chill and use as a dip, or take some on a plate with starters (that is how it is used in Greece). The smokey flavour of the aubergine is to die for. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:16 PM (#1982920) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo Tom Bawcock's Eve (23 December) A merry place you may believe Tiz Mouzel 'pon Tom Bawcock's Eve. To be there then who wouldn't wesh To sup o' sibm soorts o' fesh When morgy brath had cleared the path Comed lances for a fry. And then us had a bit o' scad An' starry-gazy pie As aich we'd clunk E's health we drunk in bumpers bremmen high And when up caame Tom Bawcocks name We prais'd 'un to the sky Tom Bawcock set to sea in terrible weather to get food for the starving people of Mousehole, Cornwall. This is celebrated annually on 23 December with a Starry Gazy Pie) |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:19 PM (#1982922) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris I should have added - the above quantities produce enough aubergine salad for 8 with seconds. Or dinner for me (but stay clear afterwards!) |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:20 PM (#1982924) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Damon Hill Red-hot Massa still unbeatable in Bahrain Thursday, 01, March, 2007, 17:13 Felipe Massa completed a perfect week's work in Bahrain by setting the pace on the final major day of pre-season Formula 1 testing on Thursday. The Brazilian has been in commanding form all week at the Sakhir circuit, topping the times on each of the three days and establishing himself as one of the firm favourites ahead of the 2007 season, which gets underway in Australia on March 18. Having set a benchmark time of 1m30.640s on Wednesday, Massa upped the ante to a stunning 1m29.989s on Thursday morning, as he continued to evaluate Ferrari's new aerodynamic package. Despite completing just 45 laps and stopping work before the lunch break, Felipe finished 0.4s ahead of his nearest rival, Renault's Heikki Kovalainen. The Finnish rookie's week began badly with a spectacular crash on Tuesday, but he has had no trouble getting back up to speed and shaded team-mate Giancarlo Fisichella by 0.1s. Both drivers' running was interrupted by mechanical problems, although Renault said the parts that failed on Fisichella's car had exceeded their target mileage and were therefore not a concern. The Renault duo sandwiched the two Ferraris, with Kimi Raikkonen setting the fourth fastest time after he took over the aero package that Massa had been using in the morning. World champion Fernando Alonso was fifth quickest for McLaren, two places and 0.8s clear of test driver Pedro de la Rosa. Rubens Barrichello gave Honda a boost with the sixth-best time, but team-mate Jenson Button languished in 14th. Scott Speed, whose contract renewal with Toro Rosso was confirmed last Saturday, was the surprise of the day, posting the eighth fastest time. Team-mate Tonio Liuzzi was similarly impressive on Wednesday and so far Red Bull's junior outfit has upstaged the more heralded 'A' team. Testing times from Bahrain (March 1) 1. MASSA Ferrari 1m29.989s 2. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m30.384s 3. FISICHELLA Renault 1m30.498s 4. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m30.534s 5. ALONSO McLaren 1m30.564s 6. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m31.067s 7. DE LA ROSA McLaren 1m31.354s 8. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m31.500s 9. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m31.589s 10. HEIDFELD BMW 1m31.720s 11. WEBBER Red Bull 1m31.742s 12. KUBICA BMW 1m31.751s 13. SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m31.791s 14. BUTTON Honda 1m31.837s 15. MONTAGNY Toyota 1m32.264s 16. SATO Super Aguri 1m33.337s |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM (#1982925) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris I believe we have the makings of a dinner party, including starters and pudding. Plus acid drops with the coffee. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM (#1982928) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Canadienne real Canadian home cooking |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:22 PM (#1982929) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris OK, Canadienne, you get a lift with Massa, as he's the fastest. We meet at Lizzie's. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:25 PM (#1982931) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris The moose recipe reminded me of a South African friend's response to the waiter in an English restaurant when asked how he liked his steak: "Catch the cow, cut its horns, wipe its bum and put it on a plate". |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:25 PM (#1982932) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Damon Hill Hey, I just spotted an on-topic bit to the test report: "The Renault duo sandwiched the two Ferraris" Damm, I thought I was posting something topic. Must try harder next time. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:25 PM (#1982933) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris So who's coming to the party? Can we have a show of hands please? |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:31 PM (#1982937) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Oh...I is feeling Proper Poorly! Hey George...I thought I'd make a few of these to add to the Feast! EXTREME COOKING I'm ever so worried about the Moose and the Cow...someone phone the RSPCA...fast.... I'm sure there must be a Show of Hands song that we could play as background music.. MacKenzie is ONLY allowed to have Acid Drops by the way! ;0) |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:32 PM (#1982939) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Canadienne for you George........anything p.s. - is one moose enough for you? |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM (#1982946) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie That's the end of the moose, and here is the weather forecast. |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:51 PM (#1982957) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate "So who's coming to the party? Can we have a show of hands please?" Nah George! I reckon we need a finger buffet instead! |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:53 PM (#1982961) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie The finger bowl is empty, nothing in it but a slice of lemon and a drop of water! G |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:55 PM (#1982964) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris An acid drop then |
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01 Mar 07 - 01:57 PM (#1982969) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Keith "I'm sure there must be a Show of Hands song that we could play as background music.." There is a song called "The Hunter". That might do. For those that like a more traditional hunting song, then perhaps the SoH take on "Reynardine" would fit the bill. For those that don't eat meat but do eat fish, then their version of "The Downeaster Alexa" might be more appropriate. Mr Beer has a rathe fine alternative arrangement of that that, has never made it to CD, where it sounds really like it is set off The Lizard rather than Martha's Vinyard. |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:03 PM (#1982979) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris Keith, can you point me to an MP3 of the SoH version of "Downeaster Alexa"? I love that song, but only know Billy Joel's original version. |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM (#1983016) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Keith " can you point me to an MP3 of the SoH version of "Downeaster Alexa"? I love that song, but only know Billy Joel's original version". George, I will tomorrow. |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:29 PM (#1983025) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,BLonde Lover 'Tis no good you trying to impress me with your Culinary skills my deario....for I am promised to another.... Only one Lizzie? |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:35 PM (#1983035) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Folkiedave We need a Yorkshire Pudding Course Ingredients vegetable oil 290ml/½ pint milk 4 eggs, beaten 255g/9oz plain flour, sifted salt and freshly ground black pepper Method 1. Preheat the oven to 220C/425F/Gas 7. 2. Grease a Yorkshire pudding tin with a little vegetable oil. Place the tin in the oven to preheat. 3. Place the milk, eggs and seasoning in a bowl. Stir well to combine. 4. Whisk in the flour. 5. Remove the tin from the oven. Pour in the batter, filling each case only three quarters full. 6. Place the tin in the oven and bake for 10 minutes, or until puffy and raised. 7. Remove the puddings from the oven and serve. Suitable for vegetarians - traditionally the fat would be lard. On my father's side of the family from Yorkshire - tyhey traditionally had this at the start of the meal so that people would need to eat less meat. Served with gravy. |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:37 PM (#1983038) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Viking but you know what happens when my contact lenses are out...my ears take over! Hmmm.. that transition should be easily accomplished; not that long a distance to travel, and nothing but air to traverse ;-) |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:45 PM (#1983046) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie I looked deep in her eyes, and all I could see was the back of her head? G. |
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01 Mar 07 - 02:59 PM (#1983058) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish >>>>Only one Lizzie?<<<< Most definitely. 100%. Absolutely. :0) Hey MacKenzie..if you did that to my eyes...you'd see my contact lenses! ;0) Now shush...else I'll put my glasses on and scare the Beejayzus out of you.....and it'll put you off your meal too....although you only have a small selection of Acid Drops as I recall... See...we're all going back to our 'Roots' here...discovering ancient local recipes for Yorkshire Puddin' and Moose Tarts Who'd have thought it eh? And Viking....I came across you in York I think recently, at your Viking Festival...you were the one who refused to come out and show the kids how to fight, as it was raining...and you didn't want to slip over in your leather shoes.... Hah! Call yourself a Viking! Here...make a few Toasted Stinging Nettles and try to be a Real Man! Viking Recipes |
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01 Mar 07 - 03:19 PM (#1983083) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo 'Woodsie' inquired much earlier in the thread why some of us were 'hostile' to LC. Da management has decided to truncate my reply, which they viewed as a 'personal attack'. Readers might like to review LC's posts and count up the many that she is attacking personally. Then feel free to PM me offlist should they need any further elucidation of the damaging activities of this troll. |
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01 Mar 07 - 03:44 PM (#1983119) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Captain Ginger George, I'm interested to see that you don't do that faffing around with salt on your aubergines. I was always taught to do that, until one day I thought "Why?" and stopped salting them before cooking, and noticed no adverse effect on the taste and realised that it made cooking with them a darned sight easier. It does seem to be an English affectation, this salting malarkey. |
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01 Mar 07 - 03:47 PM (#1983122) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: John MacKenzie It's to stop them going brown, you don't need to do it if you're going to deal with them straight away I believe G |
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01 Mar 07 - 04:05 PM (#1983138) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Ruth Archer Now my nan, who was Sicilian, salted her aubergines. I't not actually to keep them from going brown, G - it "draws out" some of the bitterness from them apparently, but also actually starts "cooking" them - they go kind of soft, and it gives them a much nicer texture when they actually are cooked, methinks. My nan was a great cook. Her eggplant (aubergne) parmegiana was the food of the gods... |
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01 Mar 07 - 04:40 PM (#1983185) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Captain Ginger It is amazing how much oil they will soak up, isn't it? When making a moussaka (sorry George, my reciple is probably horribly unauthentic!) I like to fry the slices of aubergine in olive oil first, and they'll soak up gallons until a certain point when they spit it all out again and go soft. I have to keep reminding myself to keep the faith and wait for them to spit out the oil. I've heard that salting them means that they don't start off quite so absorbent. Could be useful for dealing with shipwrecks, though... |
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01 Mar 07 - 04:43 PM (#1983190) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Ruth Archer that's right, CG. They absorb the salt and then release a lot of juice, like mushrooms do when you sweat them. |
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01 Mar 07 - 04:44 PM (#1983191) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo I don't like aubergines very much so can you use something else? Like a Route vegetable? |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:08 PM (#1983219) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Folkiedave I think Ruth Archer's nan is probably correct and it is to draw out the bitterness. I am surprised she came from Sicily, (where they know a lot about aubergines) I imagined she was from somewhere near Blaydon. Can 'catters help? Is the way one eats Yorkshire Pudding a regional thing or is it a class thing? |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:14 PM (#1983226) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Ruth Archer Regional. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:14 PM (#1983229) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo My granddad used to eat Yorkshire pudding cold for breakfast on Monday with jam. Dunno if this was a regional North Yorkshire thing but my grandmother said he was uncivilised. Can Ruth's nan give us the recipe for Stotty Cake? (And just to bring this back onto musical topic, it's a polka), |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:17 PM (#1983234) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Ruth's dead nan Stottie Cake Ingredients: 6lbs Strong white bread flour 6 teaspoons of salt 1oz lard 2oz fresh yeast 2 teaspoons sugar 2½ to 3 pints warm water Preparation: Mix flour and salt together then rub in the lard. Cream the fresh yeast and sugar and stir in about half of the warm water until dissolved. Leave the yeast mixture until frothy then add to the flour/salt mix together with the rest of the warm water, sufficient to make a firm but not sticky dough. Knead for ten minutes, place in bowl, cover and leave in a warm place until it has doubled in size. Turn out and knead again. This is where the recipe differs from 'normal' bread. Sufficient is cut after the dough has had its first rising. Roll out to about ½" thick and 6" to 8" diameter. Prick all over with a fork and bake on a floured tray on the bottom of the oven this is important for about 25 to 30 minutes on gas mark 8, 450F. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:21 PM (#1983239) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish No Diane....you need Roots Vegetables.... "Seed, bud, flower, fruit They're never gonna grow without their roots Branch, stem, shoots - they need roots" Even Aubergines know more about where their roots come from, than the English do these days... Albion Heart Aubergines R Us |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:32 PM (#1983253) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Lizzie Cornish Er...can you still use/buy lard or has it been banned by The Ministry Of Dangerous Substances? |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:35 PM (#1983258) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris Ruth is right about the salting of the aubergines, especially if you are going to fry them. If you use tham in a casserole, you don't need to do that. Diane, you can substitute aubergines in moussaka with thinly sliced potatoes. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:37 PM (#1983261) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Ruth's dead nan Lardy Cake Ingredients milk and water mix 300 ml fresh yeast 20 gm castor sugar 20 gm strong flour 500 gm butter 75 gm cinnamon 1/2 tsp mixed spice 1/2 tsp lard 150 gm castor sugar 100 gm currants 100 gm sultanas 100 gm mixed peel 50 gm Method Warm the milk, water and butter to blood temperature (37°C); it should feel neither warm nor cold when you put your finger in it. Sprinkle in the sugar and yeast and stir to dissolve and disperse Sprinkle in 2/3's to ¾'s of the sieved flour and combine to a light batter: this is known as a 'sponge' Place in a warm place to prove until double its size Turn out onto a lightly floured bench and knead in sufficient flour to form a soft dough Knead for approx. 10 minutes to develop the gluten strands and a soft, elastic dough is obtained Roll out to a large square/rectangle that is approx. ½ cm thick Spread out the lard evenly Sprinkle with the sugar and fruits Fold in half and roll out to ½ cm thick Fold into three (known as a triple fold) and roll out to ½ cm thick Make another triple and roll out to 4-5 cm thick Cut into required shapes and sizes, and place onto a lightly greased and floured tray Cover with a damp towel and leave in a warm place until proved to double its size Score the top of each with a criss-cross pattern with a knife, then bake for approx. 30 minutes at 170°C (until well risen and golden brown) Brush with egg-wash and place back in the oven for 2-3 minutes to glaze Serve immediately or leave to cool on a wire rack |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:41 PM (#1983268) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Ruth's dead nan George, I always salted my eggplant, even in casserole-style dishes. It depends how long you're cooking them for. If they're going to be in the oven for at least an hour, the eggplant will go soft. If you're cooking something for a shorter period of time, the eggplant can fail to soften and be a bit chewy. Not nice. The salt takes care of that. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:44 PM (#1983271) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Fanny Craddock Traditional Cornish pasty recipe. Serves: 4 (makes 4 pasties) Cooking time and temperature: 20-30 mins at 220C then 20 mins at 160C then turn oven off and leave in oven for 15 minutes with door shut Ingredients: Pastry: 450g strong white flour 100g margarine 100g lard 175ml water salt Filling: 50g onion of shallot (or leek) 50-75g turnip (or swede) 100g beef skirt or chuck steak 150g sliced old potatoes black pepper salt Method: Pastry: 1. Put flour and a little salt into a bowl. 2. Cut off a quarter of the lard and rub into the flour. 3. Grate or slice the rest of the lard and margarine into the mixture and stir with a knife. 4. Pour all the water in and stir until absorbed. 5. Knead for a little. 6. Leave for at least 30 minutes in the fridge before using. Making the pasties: 1. Preheat oven to 220C. 2. Keep slices of potato in a basin of cold water until needed. 3. Trim the fat off the meat, and cut into 6mm chunks. 4. Flour the board/work area. 5. Cut off 1/4 of the pastry. Roll it out into a circle about 22 cm in diameter. Place an upturned plate over the pastry and trim round. 6. Put most of the turnip and onion across the centre of the pastry round. Sprinkle with salt and pepper. 7. Place meat along the top into the ends. Sprinkle with salt. 8. Top up with most of the potato and the rest of the turnip. Add more salt and the rest of the potato. Do not season top layer with salt. 9. Dampen one side of the pastry all round with a very little water. 10. Fold the damp side of the pastry to the other side and press down firmly but gently. The seam should run across the top, but run it down the side if you find it easier. 11. From the right hand side (or left if you are left-handed) fold over the edge to make it slightly thicker, then squeeze tightly between thumb and forefinger every 2 cms to make a neat pattern along the edge. Tuck in the end and seal well. 12. Make a slit in the top with a knife and patch holes with dampened pieces of rolled-out pastry. 13. Place the pasties on buttered greaseproof paper or a greased and floured tray, leaving 5cm between each. Brush the pasties with milk or egg wash (egg and milk) or water. 14. Bake in preheated oven for 20-30 mins at 220C. If brown turn them down and cook for 20 mins at 160C then turn oven off and leave in oven for 15 minutes with oven door shut. 15. Remove from oven and place on cooling rack. Leave for 15 mins to cool before eating! |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:45 PM (#1983273) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Blowzabella I can't remember the last time I saw fresh yeast in a shop but would love to make stotty cake. God that brings back memories - ham and pease pudding stotties ,,,, Can it be done with dried yeast??? (Living in the sticks, I often rely on th elocal Spar for provisions ...it's good, but not fresh yeast good) |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:48 PM (#1983276) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: George Papavgeris I stand corrected - haven't used aubergines in a casserole for a long, long time; if ever. Usually I just have them fried, thinly sliced, dampened and into flour, then straight into the frying pan. Nice and crisp. Same style also works wonders with courgettes. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:50 PM (#1983277) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Ruth's dead nan ""Can it be done with dried yeast???" yes, pet - substitute 3.5 - 4 tsp dried yeast for the 2 oz fresh. |
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01 Mar 07 - 05:53 PM (#1983279) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo Savitri Chaudhary, when describing how to make bhartha, recommends putting aubergines under the grill or holding them over a gas ring until the skin turns black, by which time they will be soft inside. Then peel under running water, fry the spices then add. I recommend using something else. |
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01 Mar 07 - 06:05 PM (#1983287) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo Pease pudding hot Pease pudding cold Pease pudding in the pot Nine days old 1 lb dried peas (soaked for 12 hours) Thyme Bayleaf Small onion 2 oz butter Beaten egg Salt + black pepper Put peas, herbs and quartered onion in pan and cover with cold water. Bring to boil and simmer gently for 2 hours. Drain then mash to a pulp. Beat in butter and egg and season. Pack into buttered pudding basin a, cover with greased paper and tie wih string. Steam for an hour. |
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01 Mar 07 - 06:10 PM (#1983293) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Blowzabella Many thanks for the dried / fresh conversion to Ruth's nana - and to the countess for the pease pudding recipe - we always did it with yellow split peas, ham stock and no herbs, egg, butter or onions .... we must have been really poor ..... |
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01 Mar 07 - 06:15 PM (#1983298) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo I copied it from Delia. If I was sent to the pork butchers I used till he went to the back to get something then steal some pease pudding from the huge mound standing on the counter. Wasn't ever caught . . . |
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01 Mar 07 - 06:16 PM (#1983299) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Moo 1. Define mating goals MM allows the user to set their breeding preferences. To change breeding preferences select from the main menu Mate Cows. From the Individual Cow Mating Screen select Import Data and Set goals, the Import data and Setup Linear Goals Screen will appear. To change breeding goal preferences select the Linear Goal tab. The Holstein uniform linear type traits system is used to your establish breeding goals. If you wish to receive more information on the trait, click on the label indicated by the trait name. You are able to define your breeding goal by changing the values listed behind each trait. If you wish to consider a trait as a one-way trait then check the box that is listed behind the linear score. If you wish a trait to be considered as a two-way trait then un-check the box. MM allows you to use preset breeding goals by selecting the Breed Average or High Type buttons. 2. Define semen usage restrictions To limit the units of semen you wish to use from a specific bull, select from the Import data and Setup Linear Goals Screen the Semen Usage tab. To restrict the units on a specific bull, select a bull from the list and double click. Enter in the Max # of Units box the maximum value you wish to consider and press the Save button. To erase all limitations click on the Reset button. 3. Mate the cow After you have imported your cow data, specified your breeding goals, trait emphasis and semen restrictions, you are ready to mate your cows. |
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01 Mar 07 - 06:35 PM (#1983315) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: The Borchester Echo Are these insructions intended especially for Ruth's use in the cowshed? |
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01 Mar 07 - 07:02 PM (#1983332) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Folkiedave I doubt it. She let Sam down badly. Remember she defined her mating goals quite clearly and then failed to follow through. It never got to the other bits.............. |
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01 Mar 07 - 07:24 PM (#1983351) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST Look, would you throw away the chance to spend the rest of your life insemnating cows and getting your spanner round the engine of a Massey for a dirty little grope with a snowboarder in an Oxford Travelodge? A girl's got to have priorities. |
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01 Mar 07 - 07:35 PM (#1983363) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Folkiedave My comments were strictly limited to the question from Countess Richard. As for getting a group in a Travelodge.............is that an offer? Dave |
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01 Mar 07 - 08:25 PM (#1983391) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Another one "As for getting a group in a Travelodge.............is that an offer?" No Folkiedave... methinks the offer was for a singular grope - I don't think group playtime was actually in prospect!!! |
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02 Mar 07 - 03:25 AM (#1983588) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Blowzabella As for getting a group in a Travelodge.............is that an offer? Shouldn't that be on the 'How to get a gig' thread |
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02 Mar 07 - 03:37 AM (#1983596) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: GUEST,Aye Aye A group grope. Girls, count me in. |
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02 Mar 07 - 03:50 AM (#1983602) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Captain Ginger I think this thread may be destined to become a classic of its kind. And talking of classic - smoked paprika; how wonderful an ingredient is that? I find I use it more and more to add a savoury edge to dishes. It seems to have the 'umami' effect that one finds in MSG, anchovies and other flavour enhancers, and gives a wonderful warmth to any stew or casserole. I sprinkle som eon the otp of moussaka (I use greek yoghurt, plain flour and an egg beaten together rather than a bechamel), and it's great with any pork disk. It has now become one of my unexpectedly essential ingredients along with nutmeg, star anise and anchovy essence. Sorry, thread drift there... Back to the group gropes in an Oxford Travelodge (and how banal - a little country house hotel or a small cottage would have been far more likely to winkle Ruth out of her overalls than a ruddy Travelodge). |
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02 Mar 07 - 04:11 AM (#1983613) Subject: RE: Show of Hands From: Folkiedave Yes, I always thought Sam's seduction technique, (flowers, champagne) was let down by his choice of venue. A small boutique hotel would have been much better. But I digress. I always seem to have difficulty purchasing smoked paprika. Fortunately I spend a lot of time in Spain where it is easily purchased. Not only do I bring some home for myself I even bring some home for others including a restaurant!! Incidentally one of the difficulties of learning the Hungarian language at the start is the fact the letters in Hungarian don't have the same sounds you have come to expect. An "a" is sounded as an "o". Thus "paprika" is actually pronounced in Hungarian as "popriko". And when you raise your arm in the street you shout "toxi". Not many people know that. In fact Hungarians don't know it because it sounds normal to them. Any news on the Yorkshire Pudding front? Regional or class? |
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02 Mar 07 - 04:57 AM (#1983635) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Dave the Gnome Is that from the Monty Python Hungarian phrasebook, Dave? My nipples are bursting with delight... :D |
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02 Mar 07 - 05:16 AM (#1983645) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Viking Lizzie, dear, you and I have never met, so you're slagging off an entirely innocent man there. Also, your suggested viking feast is a bit meagre, methinks. How about something a bit more comprehensive and authentic? |
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02 Mar 07 - 05:17 AM (#1983647) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris 100 |
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02 Mar 07 - 05:18 AM (#1983648) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie How about a recipe for Maids of Honour? |
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02 Mar 07 - 05:26 AM (#1983655) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris There is a Northern Greek recipe similar to haggis but using the lacework of fat from the belly of a sheep instead to make dumplings the size of a big orange or even bigger, that's called "Maiden's Breasts". Will that do? |
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02 Mar 07 - 05:28 AM (#1983656) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo From the Be-Ro book: MAIDS OF HONOUR 6 oz short crust pastry jam 50g margarine 50g caster sugar 50g self-raising flour 1 egg Roll pastry thinly Cut in rounds and line pastry tins Place jam in each Cream margarine and sugar, fold in beaten egg and sugar Place small spoonful of mixture in each pastry case Bake at gas mark 6 for 15 - 20 minutes. |
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02 Mar 07 - 05:34 AM (#1983658) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie Can only follow that with this. High Dumpsy Dearie Jam Makes: 3.2 - 3.6kg (7 - 8lb) 900g (2lb) Cooking Apples 900g (2lb) Pears 900g (2lb) Plums 2kg (4½lb) Sugar 25g (1oz) Root Ginger 1 Lemon Water Peel, core and slice the apples and pears. Halve the plums and remove the stones. Place all of the fruit into a heavy bottomed saucepan, add just enough water to cover the base. Cook for 40 minutes or until the fruit is tender. Remove from the heat, add the sugar, stir until fully dissolved. Place the grated rind of the lemon and the bruised ginger into a muslin bag and add to the jam. Add the juice of the lemon. Bring to the boil, cook for about 15 minutes, cooking rapidly until the setting point is reached. The jam is then ready for potting. |
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02 Mar 07 - 06:36 AM (#1983695) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Alec Singing Hinnies ingredients 250 gm of plain flour 50gm Butter 25gm Currants 1 teaspoon of baking powder Half teaspoon of Salt Milk & Sour Cream Method 1)mix the fat with the flour and 2)add the other ingredients 3)mix until the dough becomes soft by adding milk and sour cream 4) roll out and bake on both sides on a griddle. (In absence of a griddle,a heavy frying pan will do) |
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02 Mar 07 - 06:46 AM (#1983697) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo NORTHUMBRIAN DUCK 5lb shoulder of lamb with extra 5" of bone on trotter side of knuckle to form mock duck's neck. Bone rest of shoulder and split end of protruding bone to form beak. Skewer joint to keep front part upright. Season, stuff and sew up, Make scallop cuts in lamb fat to simulate feathers znd sprinkle with flour. Protect head with foil throughout cooking then burn an 'eye' on either side of 'head'. Serve on bed of sugar peas so it looks like a duck on a pond. |
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02 Mar 07 - 06:58 AM (#1983701) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Sorry countess, but this is hardly a "recipe" - it's a set of presentation instructions for what is simply generic roast shoulder of lamb (so generic, that it leaves the seasoning and stuffing choices open). Worthy of Fanny Craddock, especially if one adds a split snub carrot for a bill and two vine leaves for webbed feet. Where is the rosemary? Where the mint sauce? |
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02 Mar 07 - 06:58 AM (#1983702) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Scrump their version of "The Downeaster Alexa" might be more appropriate. Mr Beer has a rathe fine alternative arrangement of that that, has never made it to CD Phil's version of the song was on the "Covers" CD (issued in 2000) (Yes, it is good isn't it - I saw him do it on tour last year.) |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:01 AM (#1983706) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Much better Maids of Honour as made at the eponymous teashop in Kew, where my French professor once took me. Enough of that. The recipe is derived, allegedly, from the Hampton Court kitchens where they were made for Henry VIII. 1lb puff pastry Half pint milk 4 tablespoons 2-day-old breadcrumbs 4 oz butter 2 tablespoons sugar grated rind of lemon 2 oz ground almonds 3 eggs Bring milk and crumbs to boil and leave for 5 minutes Beat in butter, then sugar, rind and almonds Beat in eggs last Then proceed as above. |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:05 AM (#1983712) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Where is the rosemary? Where the mint sauce? You'd be better off inquiring where's the sodding duck. (Recipe from W G Lough, butchers of Jesmond, via Jane Grigson) |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:10 AM (#1983718) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Keith "Phil's version of the song was on the "Covers" CD (issued in 2000)" Ah, NOT the version on Covers where Steve sings the lead vocal. I like that a lot, but there is also an "instant folk-mix" version they did at Coalport in 2003. Steve was suffering badly with laryngitis, which meant Phil had to do more lead vocals that night. First he sang it more or less as on the CD, with him on lead, then they played a different version with Phil on guitar and Steve on concertina. Made it sound like a "trad" English song (other than the place names). Certainly sounded a lot more "trad English" than a certain song about a white rabbit look-a-like... Thinking of which, anyone got a good recipe for jugged hare or rabbit pie? |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:15 AM (#1983724) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie Who needs mint sauce? Big Game Salsa From Tequila Herradura This salsa recipe from Tequila Herradura is quick and easy and is perfect for Super Bowl parties. It includes just enough tequila for extra flavor, but not too much to where you'll be drunk by the time the bowl's gone. I would suggest using blanco tequila, but I also tried it with a reposado, which added a rich agave flavor to the mix. Anyone can make this salsa, even if you have minimal experience in the kitchen; just chop and mix. If there are children around, make a non-alcoholic version by foregoing the tequila and be sure to clearly mark each salsa so there's no confusion. INGREDIENTS: * 4 Serrano chilies, chopped- stems and seeds removed * 2 Tbsp olive oil * 2 large tomatoes, chopped * 1 large onion, chopped * 2 cloves garlic, minced * 2 Tbsp fresh cilantro, chopped * 1/2 cup lime juice * 1/4 cup water * 1/3 cup Tequila Herradura PREPARATION: 1. Mix tomatoes, onions, chilies, garlic, cilantro and oil until all items are coated in the oil. 2. Mix in lime, water and tequila. 3. Leave as is for chunky style or puree for smooth, paste style. 4. Add salt and pepper to taste. |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:31 AM (#1983736) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave A number of people will be aware that I was lucky enough to visit Pennsylvania and the Amish country over the Xmas period. Whilst there I came across this recipe for road-kill possum. Pennsylvania Possum Pot Pie (Often served to unsuspecting bed-and-breakfast tourists in Amish country) Five-pound possum, cut into serving pieces; water; salt; 12 peppercorns; two ribs celery, chopped; two carrots, quartered; one onion; two cups flour; four egg yolks; six tablespoons hot water Place possum in kettle. Add water to cover, salt to taste, peppercorns, celery, carrots and onion. Simmer until possum is thoroughly tender, about two hours. Strain broth and pour into clean kettle. Simmer while preparing remaining ingredients. Remove possum from bones. Discard bones and skin. Cut possum into bite-size pieces. Sift flour and one-half teaspoon salt together onto board. Make well in centre and put egg yolks into it. Gradually work yolks into flour until stiff dough is formed, adding hot water as needed. Knead until smooth, about five minutes. Cut dough in half. Roll each half until paper thin. Cut dough into noodles about one inch wide. Add possum to simmering broth. Gradually add noodles. Continue boiling until noodles are done, about five minutes. The late great Tony Capstick had a recipe for Kangaroo Stew. I cannot remember the details but I remember it started with "gently simmer the Kangaroo in a gallon of whisky. After 3 hours throw the kangaroo away and drink the juice". |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:42 AM (#1983742) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris GREEK EASTER LAMB ON A SPIT 2 weeks before Easter: Order lamb from butcher. Has to be whole lamb, including head, gutted and cleaned of all the offal etc and with the hooves cut off. Ideally no more than 10kg in total. Good Saturday: Pick up lamb from butcher. Make sure you get separately the animal's lace-like fat covering of the belly. Using long spit (7-8 foot) with a handle at one end, skewer it up the fundament, along the spine, up under the jaw and through the top of the head. Using strongish wire and pliers, tie hind legs together and anchor onto the spit using a U-clamp with protruding spikes. Cross front legs and tie with wire to the spit. Use another U-clamp to anchor head to the spit. Finally, using wire tie the spine tight to the spit (halfway along) and also tie the neck to the spit. All that is done so that the lamb will not slide up and down the spit (or indeed around it) during the cooking. Stand spit and lamb upright, turn garden hose on and wash thoroughly in- and out. Lay flat, belly up, between two chairs. Rub salt, pepper and oregano inside the belly. Drop into the belly 5-6 quartered lemons, several large hunks of bread and fist-sized pieces of cheese (NOT feta, one of the yellow cheeses, cheddar will do). Using a sack-needle and twine, sew up the belly tight. With a pointed knife make a dozen deep stabs in the fleshier parts of the animal and stuff a pinch of oregano and a clove of garlic in each. Rub salt, pepper and oregano over all of the outside of the animal. Tie the lace-of-fat that you obtained separately onto the back of the lamb, for self-basting. Cover completely with a dampened large sheet and let it rest SOMEWHERE HIGH AND OUT OF REACH OF OTHER ANIMALS, ANTS ETC till Sunday morning. The dampened sheet is most important; if you forget this, your lamb will dry up and be more like lamb jerky! Go to church at midnight, having fasted all day, then have fireworks, come home and eat Easter soup (best not to ask what's in it). Sleep for 6 hours, then Easter Sunday: As soon as you wake up, take spade, go into the garden, dig 4-5 foot long trench (and 1 foot deep), fill with charcoal (or even better with pine and vine branches), set fire to it. Coffee and a cigarette, do your ablutions and get dressed. By the time you come back, the fire will have settled into embers (if it hasn't, wait!). Concentrate the embers away from the middle of the trench and towards the two ends. Stick two Y-shaped supports for the spit into the ground at either end of the trench, get a stool and a magazine (to shield your face from the heat), put the spit on the supports and start turning like buggery (abt 2 or 3 turns/second), for at least 90 minutes, all the while making sure the lamb doesn't "catch" (get burned) unevenly. Baste with olive oil mixed with salt, pepper and oregano (or rather get someone else to do it, you're too busy turning the spit and cannot stop). After about 90 mins the lamb should have taken on a nice first colour. Slow down the turning to abt 1 turn/sec for 30 mins, then to 2 secs/turn for another hour and for the last one or two hours the rate can be 3-4 secs/turn. Total cooking time = 4 to 5 hours. Add 30 mins to 1 hour for getting the fire ready and another 30 mins for slicing the meat off the spit and generally dismembering the lamb, that means starting up at 7am if you want to eat at 2pm. While all of that is happening, kind people will bring you glasses of ouzo or wine, various tidbits (meze) to nibble, others will come to take over the truning from you (stints of 20-30 mins max), there will be music and perhaps some dancing, and at least one drunk uncle will get out his hunting shotgun and shoot off a tile from the roof by accident. By 2pm the lamb is ready, you are stuffed with tidbits and a little drunk all being well, you all sit at the table and think "there's no way I can eat all this now". But you do. |
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02 Mar 07 - 07:44 AM (#1983743) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Bugger, I've gone all soppy now... |
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02 Mar 07 - 08:33 AM (#1983773) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Captain Ginger Blimey - sounds blood fantastic! So, everyone round to George's this Easter? |
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02 Mar 07 - 08:40 AM (#1983782) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe Went to a 'Russian Easter' once - if they would only have had your lamb George... |
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02 Mar 07 - 08:41 AM (#1983784) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Bainbo I went to a 'Happy Easter' restaurant once, but they didn't have lamb either. I think that's what it was called ... |
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02 Mar 07 - 08:56 AM (#1983790) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe Another Random Quick and Nasty Recipie From the Fooles Troupe Put some sausages (any flavour, but good old pork will do) on to brown, and gently cook thru. In a saucepan, combine a can of Tom Yum Soup, with a packet of Contiental 4 Cheeses (you can substitute some others) Pasta, add a small amount (100ml approx) of milk (coconut will do great too!), a bit of butter or the equivalent in oil, etc. Simmer gently until pasta al dente. Slice sausages thinly on a large angle to make thin large chunks, add to pasta/sauce, stir. May be eaten with a side salad, French Bread sliced thick on a wide angle. |
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02 Mar 07 - 08:58 AM (#1983792) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Alec Two weeks before Easter there is Carlings Sunday... Carlings. Take desired quantity of dried peas soak overnight boil up to an hour,depending how soft you prefer them. Fry with a little butter & salt. Add vinegar,wait until the vinegar evaporates and then serve. Carlings Sunday is 25th March this year. |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:10 AM (#1983806) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Alec Leek Pudding. 100 gm self raising flour 50 gm suet 1 leek pinch of salt method Mix flour,suet and add a pinch of salt Roll out the pastry. chop/slice the leek put leek inside pastry and roll up place in a cloth or wrap in foil immerse in boiling water and boil for about two hours. Serve with stew. |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:16 AM (#1983816) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Sorcha Awwwww, this thread is 'coming down' in the world. |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:23 AM (#1983826) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe Take slice of Bread, cut out centre, put on pan to heat, drop egg in centre, cook. Add bacon on the side. You can do this in the microwave too. I use a 'sandwich toaster' double plate. Cooks it without turning over. |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:27 AM (#1983830) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe Btw, use 'baking paper' on the sandwich toaster - no need for any fat then. |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:56 AM (#1983870) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer You can get smoked paprika in Sainsbury's these days. I use it as suggested further up the thread: to add a little warmth and savouriness to lots and lots of things. I also have some very wonderful oak-smoked sea salt. I have a feeling my nan might be back later with her jugged hare recipe... |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:59 AM (#1983874) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Scrump "Ah, NOT the version on Covers where Steve sings the lead vocal. I like that a lot, but there is also an "instant folk-mix" version they did at Coalport in 2003. Steve was suffering badly with laryngitis, which meant Phil had to do more lead vocals that night. First he sang it more or less as on the CD, with him on lead, then they played a different version with Phil on guitar and Steve on concertina. Made it sound like a "trad" English song (other than the place names). Certainly sounded a lot more "trad English" than a certain song about a white rabbit look-a-like..." Oops, sorry Keith. I don't have "Covers" so I'd forgotten it wasn't Phil singing on it. He did a great live version at some of the tour gigs last autumn, on his own without Steve (or Miranda, or anyone else - just him and his guitar). He didn't do it at every gig though, he also sang his 'folky' versions of other songs that would normally be thought of as 'pop'. |
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02 Mar 07 - 10:08 AM (#1983890) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe What's this music rubbish doing in a cooking thread? Vw Haf Taken Over! |
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02 Mar 07 - 10:22 AM (#1983913) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Scrump Ah, it all started with a discussion about fish. So it is related to food. |
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02 Mar 07 - 10:23 AM (#1983915) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Captain Ginger Mind you, to bring the thread back round again, the blond one in SoH does look as though he found the secret pie stash! Now a proper pie - there's a gift from the gods. Lunch today was the remains of a steak and mushroom pie I made on Tuesday with lashing of thyme, bay and ground mustard. Yum! |
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02 Mar 07 - 10:35 AM (#1983925) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Surreysinger Lunch today was lamb shoulder steak (grilled) with mixed vegetables, followed by fruit. Very virtuous, but enjoyable ... but George's Easter Lamb sounds much more fun... baggies I get invited as well!!! Maybe we should organise a Mudcat Show of Hands feast... Show of hands anyone??? |
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02 Mar 07 - 11:02 AM (#1983963) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Keith I've just found that Sainsbury's have started stocking Steak Diane in their new range of ready meals. Do you have a special signature version of that Diane? |
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02 Mar 07 - 11:15 AM (#1983975) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo A READY MEAL? Pah! The indignity. The whole point is that you slice the beef at the table, pour on brandy, ignite and serve immediately. How can you recreate that in a packet? What you need is a Fair Annie type conflagration, with Lord Thomas going up like hokey green. |
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02 Mar 07 - 11:33 AM (#1983992) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Visions of "drench with brandy, light blue touch paper and retire" at the table... |
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02 Mar 07 - 11:35 AM (#1983998) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Keith The Steak Diane is in their "taste the difference" range. I'll do a tasting soon. Not tonight though, because I've already got my (own recipe) chilli con carne underway. Mind you, I've often wondered if "taste the difference" doesn't just translate as "just the same with 50% markup". Their "taste the difference" croissants are however 50% bigger. Oh dear, there are a lot of exotic recipes in this thread. I do hope this doesn't provoke anyone to write a rant about sticking to only "english" dishes. My cooking is only half-english at the very best. Indeed its probably one quarter english, but there is no song with that title (yet). |
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02 Mar 07 - 11:52 AM (#1984011) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave George I am not one to criticise as you well know. Well apart from the Folk Awards. But that recipe for Easter lamb, fine as it is - but the way we would roast lamb in Sheffield were we ever to do it like that - we would use rosemary where you have used oregano. I always associate rosemary with lamb and oregano with Italian cookery. Not that I am questioning the authenticity of your recipe you understand. Parsley, sage, oregano and thyme....... |
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02 Mar 07 - 11:56 AM (#1984015) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie Oregano is an essential ingredient in all Greek cookery. G. |
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02 Mar 07 - 12:05 PM (#1984029) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Well, the Romans stole it from the Greeks, but you're right Giok. Robin, yes, you can substitute rosemary for oregano if you prefer it. Just a matter of taste. As an aside, Greeks don't know mint sauce or any use of mint with lamb; and they do eat a lot of lamb. |
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02 Mar 07 - 01:55 PM (#1984154) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Blowzabella Question for the countess .... Diane - did you encounter 'Savoury Duck' in your upbringing? I was only a few miles south of you - but it was a sort of faggoty thing that you fried ... (can't remember if you sliced it or just fried it) ... I stock up on my north east regional scrummies when I go over - pease pudding, savoury duck, cheese scones - none of these seem to be available in Lancashire - except you can get cheese scones in M&S but there isn't one convenient |
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02 Mar 07 - 09:56 PM (#1984560) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe MORE PIE! |
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02 Mar 07 - 10:48 PM (#1984595) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Sorcha Doesn't Lizzie want her recipes??? |
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03 Mar 07 - 07:01 AM (#1984759) Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall From: John MacKenzie Cornish Crab Soup 1.2lt (2 pints) Chicken Stock 900ml (1½ pints) Full Cream Milk 225g (8oz) Crab Meat, fresh or frozen 150ml (¼ pint) Double Cream 50g (2oz) Butter 50g (2oz) Plain Flour 2 tbsp Dry Sherry ¼ tsp Grated Nutmeg Saffron (optional) Salt and White Pepper Separate the white and dark crab meat. Melt the butter a saucepan, stir in the flour and allow to cook for 2 minutes. Add the milk, stirring well. Add the chicken stock. Add the dark crab meat, nutmeg and season to taste. Simmer gently for 12-15 minutes. Add the saffron (if used). Add the white crab meat and the sherry. Bring to a simmer, but do not boil. cook for 5 minutes and adjust seasoning. Serve with a swirl of cream. |
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03 Mar 07 - 07:11 AM (#1984763) Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall From: bfdk Crab Apple Jelly 5 pounds whole crab apples 5 cups water 2 (4 ounce) blocks paraffin 1 (1 3/4 ounce) box Sure-Jell® 8 cups granulated sugar Wash apples and remove blossom ends. Leave crab apples whole. Do not peel or core. Add water to apples; cover and simmer for 15 minutes. Crush with masher and simmer 5 minutes longer. Place in jelly bag and allow to drip overnight for clearest jelly. (A man's cotton handkerchief clipped with clothes pins to a strainer or colander makes a very handy jelly bag.) If in a hurry, juice may be squeezed out. There should be about 7 cups of juice. If there is a slight shortage of juice, add water. Sterilize jars and lids; drain. Melt paraffin in heavy glass jar in boiling water. Mix fruit pectin with juice in a 6 to 8-quart saucepan over high heat. Bring to a hard boil, stirring occasionally. Add sugar at once. Bring to a hard rolling boil that cannot be stirred down, stirring constantly. Boil 1 minute, remove from heat and skim off foam with a metal spoon. Pour into jelly glasses, leaving 1/2 inch space at top, and cover with melted paraffin. Jelly will keep in refrigerator for 2 months without paraffin but sealed with lid. Allow jelly to sit for 24 hours before moving to storage. Crab apples make a tart jelly. Yields 12 to 13 half pints. |
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03 Mar 07 - 07:30 AM (#1984771) Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall From: The Borchester Echo MOCK CRAB PASTE grated cheese ¼ teaspoon salt ¼ teaspoon paprika ¼ teaspoon mustard 1 teaspoon anchovy paste 1 tablespoon chopped olives 1 teaspoon lemon juice 2 tablespoons butter breadcrumbs skinned tomatoes Combine all ingredients and mix thoroughly. |
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03 Mar 07 - 07:37 AM (#1984773) Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall From: Folkiedave I never knew mock turtle soup had no turtles in it..... Mock Turtle Soup INGREDIENTS · 1 calf's head · butter · 2 veal bones · 1 pound beef · 6 onions · 2 shallots · rind of 1 lemon · pinch of cayenne pepper · 6 cloves · pinch of mace · pinch of basil · 1/2 glass sherry · juice of 2 lemons Plunge the calf's head into boiling water, let it remain for one minute, then remove and rub with a coarse towel. Bone the head, put it into a saucepan, cover with cold water, and skim several times as it boils. Butter the bottom of a soup kettle; add the veal bones which have been cracked and 2 quarts of cold water. Cover and reduce until almost all the water has boiled away, leaving a sort of glaze. Add the calf's head, beef, onions, shallots, lemon rind and the seasoning and herbs, with water to cover generously and boil until the calf's head is done. Strain and let it cool; then remove all of the fat. Put back in the kettle, add the meat of the calf's head and the tongue cut in small cubes. Add the sherry and the lemon juice. Heat to the boiling point but do not boil. |
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03 Mar 07 - 07:41 AM (#1984778) Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall From: The Borchester Echo Where are my mock crab paste sandwiches? MOCK CRAB PASTE grated cheese ¼ teaspoon salt ¼ teaspoon paprika ¼ teaspoon mustard 1 teaspoon anchovy paste 1 tablespoon chopped olives 1 teaspoon lemon juice 2 tablespoons butter breadcrumbs skinned tomatoes Combine all ingredients and mix thoroughly. I'll make a special pack for Phil & Steve. To eat onstage . . . |
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03 Mar 07 - 09:19 AM (#1984833) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Dave, if you have a look at the Tenniel illustrations for Alice in Wonderland, you'll see thart the Mock Turtle has a turtle shell and flippers for hands, but a calf's head and hoofs for feet. That crazy Victorian humour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_Turtle |
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03 Mar 07 - 09:36 AM (#1984842) Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall From: GUEST,Diane Oh, I was looking for the crab recipes. Please don't tell me I'm in the wrong place. Crab paste sandwiches, good for eating in the RAH queue. Queue? What queue? Or for throwing at the band. |
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03 Mar 07 - 09:41 AM (#1984845) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie As Johnny Craddock once famously said. "If you practice hard enough, all your donuts will look like Fannies" (Well I hope he said it anyway) Regards |
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03 Mar 07 - 09:49 AM (#1984848) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe There used to be lots of 'Mock' recipes - my gran told me a few - but I have forgotten them. They mostly involved cooking/treating one food so that the shape or texture resembled another. You can cook chokos with lemon juice to get a 'mock-apple' pie. |
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03 Mar 07 - 09:57 AM (#1984855) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Hey, I've got my cookie back. (I suppose it is OK to say 'cookie' down here?) The stuff about the crab sandwiches belongs in the RAH thread. Obviously. |
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03 Mar 07 - 09:59 AM (#1984859) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer So does the stuff about the Waterson's RAH gig. Obviously. |
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04 Mar 07 - 09:35 AM (#1985734) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish TRADITIONAL ENGLISH 'ROOTS' RECIPES And two songs to sing, whilst you're cooking them...... :0) 'ROOTS' by Steve Knightley: SHOW OF HANDS "Now it's been twenty-five years or more I've roamed this land from shore to shore From Tyne to Tamar, Severn to Thames From moor to vale, from peak to fen Played in cafes and pubs and bars I've stood in the street with my old guitar But I'd be richer than all the rest If I had a pound for each request For 'Duelling Banjos' 'American Pie' Its enough to make you cry 'Rule Britannia' or 'Swing Low' Are they the only songs the English know? Seed, bud, flower, fruit They're never gonna grow without their roots Branch, stem, shoots - they need roots After the speeches when the cake's been cut The disco is over and the bar is shut At christening, birthday, wedding or wake What can we sing until the morning breaks? When the Indian, Asians, Afro, Celts It's in their blood, below the belt They're playing and dancing all night long So what have they got right that we've got wrong? Seed, bud, flower, fruit Never gonna grow without their roots Branch, stem, shoots - we need roots Haul away boys let them go Out in the wind and the rain and snow We've lost more than well ever know Round the rocky shores of England And a minister said his vision of hell Is three folk singers in a pub near Wells Well I've got a vision of urban sprawl It's pubs where no one ever sings at all And everyone stares at a great big screen Over-paid soccer stars, prancing teens Australian soap, American rap Estuary English, baseball caps And we learn to be ashamed before we walk Of the way we look and the way we talk Without our stories or our songs How will we know where weve come from? I've lost St George in the Union Jack It's my flag too and I want it back Seed, bud, flower, fruit Never gonna grow without their roots Branch, stem, shoots - we need roots Haul away boys let them go Out in the wind and the rain and snow We've lost more than we'll ever know Round the rocky shores of England" 'A Place Called England' by Maggie Holland: MAGGIE HOLLAND "I rode out on a bright May morning Like a hero in a song Looking for a place called England Trying to find where I belong Couldn't find the old flood meadow Or the house that I once knew No trace of the little river Or the garden where I grew I saw town and I saw country Motorway and sink estate Rich man in his rolling acres Poor man still outside the gate Retail park and burger kingdom Prairie field and factory farm Run by men who think that England's Only a place to park their car But as the train pulled from the station Through the wastelands of despair From the corner of my eye A brightness filled the filthy air Someone's grown a patch of sunflowers Though the soil is sooty black Marigolds and a few tomatoes Right beside the railway track Down behind the terraced houses In between the concrete towers Compost heaps and scarlet runners Secret gardens full of flowers Meeta grows the scent of roses Right beneath the big jet's path Bid a fortune for her garden Eileen turns away and laughs So rise up George and wake up Arthur Time to rouse out from your sleep Deck the horse in the sea-green ribbons Drag the old sword from the deep Hold the line for Dave and Daniel As they tunnel through the clay While the oak in all its glory Soaks up sun for one more day And come all you at home with freedom Whatever the land that gave you birth There's room for you both root and branch As long as you love the English earth Room for vole and room for orchid Room for all to grow and thrive Just less room for the fat landowner On his arse in his four-wheel drive England is not flag or Empire It is not money it is not blood It's limestone gorge and granite fell It's Wealden clay and Severn mud It's blackbird singing from the may-tree Lark ascending through the scales Robin watching from your spade And English earth beneath your nails So here's two cheers for a place called England Badly used but not yet dead A Mr. Harding sort of England Hanging in there by a thread Here's two cheers for the crazy Diggers Now their hour shall come around We can plant the seed they saved us Common wealth and common ground" GRANDMA'S ENGLISH RECIPES :0) |
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04 Mar 07 - 10:33 AM (#1985782) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Fried lamb's brains Take one lamb's brain, put it in a saucepan with cold water, change the water from time to time for a couple of hours, until the brains are thoroughly cleansed. Then put them in another saucepan with fresh water, and with several pieces of onion, a little salt, a little vinegar (one tablespoon to each brain), and some parsley stems. As soon as the water boils, take the saucepan off, remove the brains, and put them onto a napkin. Cut them into four pieces, put these pieces onto a plate, and season with a little olive-oil, some lemon juice, and chopped parsley. When you are ready to fry, roll in flour, dip in egg, and fry the brain over a moderate fire for seven or eight minutes in olive-oil, shortening, or butter. Serve on toast. |
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04 Mar 07 - 11:03 AM (#1985813) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Looks like your latest personality has been rumbled on the BBC site already, Lizzie. An hour - surely that's a new record. |
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04 Mar 07 - 11:52 AM (#1985869) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish You'll have to try harder Ruthjoan.... Nope..they normally take about an hour or so....and as I said in the Show of Hands thread 'upstairs' I go in with deliberately easy to spot names... Elizabeth Cornwallis is a very sophisticated folk fan you know. She lives in an old mansion hidden deep in the woods of Frenchman's Creek on the Helford River... ;0) She not only spoke about Neil Young, The Gathering, 'Roots' and a few other folk things, but she also cordially invited those on the board to call her Lizzie and gave them a wink too! ;0)....She started out as 'Where's Lizzie?' but thought, as it was a Sunday, the Mods needed a little more a fun game to keep them awake... Elizabeth was very sad that the Moaning Minnies 'run to teacher' telling tales as they do...but I've spoken to her and explained that they all eat Lamb's Brains On Toast, disrupt any thread on anyone they dislike, or that is written by anyone they dislike, have the word HYPOCRITE tattooed down the centre of their bodies, in bright red ink, and meet every week at The Whinge And Wassail Pub in Walthamstow for their weekly burning of the Radio 2 Witch. Elizabeth sighed....then got into her carriage and returned to her Cornish Estate whilst muttering "Some people should be hanged, drawn and quatered m'dear for their pettiness, spitefulness and dictatorial manner" And as her carriage rumbled off into the Western Sunset, I couldn't help but agree with her. ;0) |
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04 Mar 07 - 11:58 AM (#1985874) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish < Being "quatered" is an ancient Cornish punishment, making hanging, drawing and quartering look like a beautiful Summer's Day. There was one reference to it in The Museum of Witchcraft down in Boscastle...Sadly though, this, along with the museum, was washed away in the recent floods. As far as I know, Elizabeth Cornwallis is the only remaining Cornish woman who still knows the gruesome details of 'quatering'..... .....and I....have her address! Splutter! :0) |
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04 Mar 07 - 11:58 AM (#1985875) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer ' "Some people should be hanged, drawn and quatered m'dear for their pettiness, spitefulness and dictatorial manner" And as her carriage rumbled off into the Western Sunset, I couldn't help but agree with her.' Me too, Lizzie - me too. |
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04 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM (#1985893) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Noooo....The Witches of Boscastle just made it instantly and magically appear! ;0) Great to hear you agree Ruthjoan...perhaps then, you'll now get yourself sorted out and stop with your deeply personal and highly unnecessary insults to me. Good Girl! I always admire those who've the guts to admit how unpleasant they've been....in public. Excuse me though, for I SO have to get back to watching those FABULOUS FISHERMEN'S FRIENDS on the video below, that Keith put in the 'upstairs' Show of Hands thread....THEY ARE FANTASTIC!!! I have their 'Suck 'Em And See' CD which is enough to make a Maiden go weak in the most peculiar places! Ohhhhhhh! FISHERMEN'S FRIENDS "...Heave Away Haul Away...We're bound for South Australia!" |
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04 Mar 07 - 12:17 PM (#1985895) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Joe or Max...... Can't this thread now be moved upstairs? I've no idea why it was put down here in the Naughty Department anyway.... Be great if it could be put back where it belongs... Pretty Please.... :0) Flutters eyelashes wildly....:0) :0) :0) Lizzie :0) |
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04 Mar 07 - 12:17 PM (#1985896) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Lizzie, your lack of self-awareness is staggering to the point of genuine instability. Have you considered professional help? |
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04 Mar 07 - 12:18 PM (#1985901) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer "flutters eyelashes" Pass me the sick bag and act your age. |
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04 Mar 07 - 01:27 PM (#1985985) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Sorry Ruth, I have a sense of humour, I do apologise for daring to use it in your presence.. |
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04 Mar 07 - 01:57 PM (#1986009) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne Museum of Witchcraft I believe a post indicating that this attraction was refurbished and still open, despite the statement that it had been washed away, was deleted. |
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04 Mar 07 - 02:13 PM (#1986023) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo flutters eyelashes Behaving like a stereotypical, reactionary throwback isn't 'humorous'. It's demeaning, ridiculous and vomit-inducing. |
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04 Mar 07 - 02:23 PM (#1986029) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie May have been deleted if it was posted by a Guest without a handle my non transatlantic friend! G. |
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04 Mar 07 - 02:37 PM (#1986042) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish >>>Behaving like a stereotypical, reactionary throwback isn't 'humorous'. It's demeaning, ridiculous and vomit-inducing.<<< Nope...it isn't, only in your book. I'm a girl/ol' girl/woman/lady/girlie/ol'woman..and PROUD OF IT! And I shall damn well behave as I want to behave and not as The Wimmin tell me I must.... I shall never 'act my age' because I have never changed the way I am as each year goes past. I am me....not 'an age' I do not judge others as you and your er pals do, whilst spouting on about how 'free-thinking' I am. I do not put people in boxes, or dictate how they must behave, what they must wear, what music they must like, what paper/books they must read, how their children should be brought up or educated etc etc etc....yawn...etc...... This is because I'm a Show of Hands Chick...and not only that....but I am a Free Range Show of Hands Chick too... :0) I would stay longer, but I have to re-apply my mascara....so 'scuse me...... Lizzie :0) PS...Are you going down The Whinge and Wassail tonight then Sweetums? PPS...Bring Back Frocks and Frilly Petties! ;0) |
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04 Mar 07 - 08:17 PM (#1986339) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Sorcha Eyelashes? Are they fake? Like Tammy Faye's???? Sheesh, I'm jealous! |
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04 Mar 07 - 09:41 PM (#1986432) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: JennyO Lizzie, I loved that video of the Fishermen's Friends. As fine a version of "Bound for South Australia" as I have heard! (and I know a lot of shanty singers - I live with one!) |
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04 Mar 07 - 09:51 PM (#1986445) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe A lot of people find 'Fishermen's Friends' too hot for their taste... |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:25 AM (#1986567) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Cinnamon cough sweets Rosewater Powdered Gum Arabic Powdered Cinnamon Caster Sugar 1. Gently warm four tablespoons of rosewater and add enough gum arabic (approx 4 teaspoons) to make a sticky syrup. 2. Work in roughly equal amounts of caster sugar and cinnamon until you have a solid paste. 3. Press into a shallow tin and, as it dries, cut into small sticks 4. Roll the sticks to make them round 5. Leave to dry completely |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:20 AM (#1986579) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: JennyO A lot of people find 'Fishermen's Friends' too hot for their taste... Not me - they're my favourite. None of those wimpy Strepsils and Vapodrops for me! I like 'em strong and hot, like my men ;-) |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:27 AM (#1986606) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Oh! I like you Jenny! :0) :0) :0) Fishermen's Friends sang with Show of Hands at Sidmouth, the first time I ever saw any of them. I was completely bowled over by their wonderful voices. I love shanty singers too. I really enjoyed the programme that Radio Britfolk did on them a while back now, featuring Johnny Collins and A. L.Lloyd and many others...it was great! JOHNNY COLLINS I was re-doing my Sidmouth report from 2005 the other day, putting it on my Myspace page and I came across the part where I saw The Wareham Whalers. It brought back so many happy memories. There they were, just standing on the seafront, singing their hearts out! The sun was sparkling on the sea behind them and people were thronged around them listening....and all of a sudden this lovely old man, who was on a completely different planet to the rest of us, bless him...but very happy...came and started playing the spoons right next to them...At first he was in time with them, but he got faster and faster, then he started singing a completely different song! Oh, it was so funny....but they just kept on singing, with gritted teeth and smiles on their faces. HOW they managed to keep their concentration going I've no idea, but they did. Luckily, the old gentleman then moved back to Duke's Acoustic Cafe, where he'd spent most of the week sitting right next to the stage playing 'air mandolin' ;0) He was such a great character! Unless you were The Wareham Whalers of course! ;0) The Wareham Whalers Mind you, those Fishermen's Friends really should have a website or at the very least, a Myspace page! Their voices should be spread far and wide and it would be so easy for them to get a page too.... Oh I get so frustrated about magical voices that I can't 'get out' to people. It's the same with Coope Boyes & Simpson, superb voices, but can I send them flying around the world to people? Nope! Grrrrrrr! ;0) Glad you enjoyed the video though Jenny, that was all thanks to Keith, as he posted it earlier on the other SoH thread now sadly closed. Lizzie :0) |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:34 AM (#1986616) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe oooooooooooo.... |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:46 AM (#1986625) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe Oh-oh... |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:19 AM (#1986652) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Alec Do any of you good people have a good recipe for Pan Haggerty? |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:27 AM (#1986663) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo If Pan Haggerty is the same as what we called Panacklety, it's a meat stew with thinly-sliced potato on the top, browned in the oven. |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:31 AM (#1986666) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Oh I get so frustrated about magical voices that I can't 'get out' to people How self-obsessed can you get? Yet again, LC assumes no-one else can have heard of artists before she 'discovers' them. Wrong. |
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05 Mar 07 - 06:12 AM (#1986683) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer "Oh I get so frustrated about magical voices that I can't 'get out' to people. It's the same with Coope Boyes & Simpson, superb voices, but can I send them flying around the world to people? Nope! Grrrrrrr! ;0)" Umm, I think that Georgina and the other lovely folks at the No Masters collective have got that one covered. Happily, Lizzie, their careers are pootling along nicelty despite your lack of "help". Mostly because they are professionals, have worked within this industry for decades, and know what the hell they're doing. Unlike you. |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM (#1986761) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Actually Ruth, I think you'll find that there are no samples of the voices of Coope Boyes & Simpson anywhere, apart from one tiny sample which lasts only for seconds, somewhere, but you have to go through many buttons to reach it. Georgina herself posted it, on a thread backalong. And if you'll excuse me, for I know I am not worthy to even breathe in YOUR folk world, but I KNOW of many people who have been blown away by the voices of Coope Boyes and Simpson when I have played them their music. They have never heard them before, they know nothing of the 'hidden' world of folk music either...but they have gone on to buy their CDs from that one listen of some of mine. I have also had people come over to my Myspace page and tell me that they too have bought music, that previously they have known nothing about, purely from hearing it playing on my page. I have also discovered some amazing music myself this way from the pages of others. The internet is a very powerful tool for sending music out in seconds around the world. Coope Boyes & Simpson's main site is wonderful, filled with highly interesting articles, many of which Georgina has written. I was reading one that Sam sent me just the other day, about 'power and gender' in folk songs actually... I drop Lester a line over at Folkwaves now and again and beg him for that Myspace page....and one day...being always the optimist...I hope they'll get there. And when they do....WOW! Wake Up World!! You may be happy for theirs and others music to be kept within the controlling walls of the folk world..I'd far rather it reached the ears and minds of many more people. On the rare occasions I've been to folk clubs, I see a Sea Of Grey, nowt wrong with grey hair, don't get me wrong...but I do NOT see young people there. Likewise with many gigs I attend too. No-one under 40....It worries me terribly! Unless this music is more widely known about, enthused about and shared about, then it may well begin to die out with the present generation. The younger people in the folk world, I think, struggle to get their names out there, because of the ridiculous attitude that persists to this day, of having to have been on the circuit for at least 10 years or more before you're taken seriously etc... Many are not given the support they should be given. I'm speechless, and fuming, that Sidmouth have NOT got The Demon Barbers again this year, I was speechless they didn't have them last year to be honest...They are doing a huge amount for traditional music and dance and they bring the young people in, in DROVES, just as Seth Lakeman does...and as Show of Hands are now doing more and more as well. I watched Steve Knightley at Exeter University recently and he went down a storm with an audience that was made up almost entirely of young people! They went wild for his songs and for the message within his songs...Steve knows what he's doing and Show of Hands support younger acts all the time, as do many other artists.... So...why don't you and Diane take your holier than thou "We know best" attitudes far, far away from me. Coope Boyes and Simpson ARE doing brilliantly within a smallish world, but again their voices will reach far more people and people of a very different generation if they put them on the internet. When we saw them a while back at Frome the only children there....were mine...and the young people, I could count on the fingers of one hand....Yet their music, their hard work, their intelligence etc...should be reaching thousands and thousands of people, in my opinion. And ANYTHING I can do, by writing about them, to encourage and enthuse people to listen to their music, whenever I can and wherever I so choose, I will do, with or without YOUR consent. Thank you both for your concern though. Lizzie |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:10 AM (#1986764) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: maeve Anyone have really good recipes for bridies, shortbread, scones, or traditional breads? I've found several other good recipes here. |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:10 AM (#1986765) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Scrump Bah! We were out all day Saturday, and yesterday it rained all day so it was too wet to try out George's lamb recipe. We had to make do with a hotpot (it was very tasty, though). |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:20 AM (#1986779) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Perhaps LC could ask No Masters (CBS) if they'd like her to do their publicity. And Three's Company (Demon Barbers) too. Then post the replies . . . |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:38 AM (#1986796) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: maeve Alec- Is this what you want? Pan Haggerty 450g (1lb) Potatoes 110g (4oz) Cheddar or Lancashire Cheese 2 medium Onions 25g (1oz) Butter 1 tbsp Vegetable Oil Salt and Pepper Thinly slice the potatoes and onions and grate the cheese. Combine the butter and oil in a large frying pan. Remove the pan from the heat and place layers of sliced potatoes, onions and cheese, reserving a little of the cheese. Cover and cook gently for about 30 minutes or until the potatoes and onions are cooked. Pre-heat the grill five minutes before the end of the cooking time. Sprinkle the reserved cheese over the top of the mixture, place under grill until the cheese is golden brown and bubbling. Serve straight from the pan. I'll post a link to the source in a moment... |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:43 AM (#1986801) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo PARATHA STUFFED WITH POTATO BREAD 2 and a half cups wholemeal flour 1 cup water half teaspoonful salt 3 oz set butter fat Set aside half a cupful of flour for shaping Sieve flour into mixing bowl, add salt Mix into dough by adding water gradually Pound and kneed for several minutes then stand for an hour Kneed again, shape into balls and roll out Heat butter fat, spread on to surface then fold over Spread butter fat on fresh layer, then repeat 3 or 4 times, then roll out failry thinly Cook on hot iron plate or pan till golden brown. STUFFING 2 large potiates 1 onion 2 tablespoons coriander 1 dessert spoon butter fat 1 teaspoonful garam masala 1 teaspoonful salt 1 tablespoon lemon juice Small piece of ginger half teaspoon chili powder Boil potatoes in jackets, when cool, peel and mash Heat butter fat and fry finely chopped onion, herbs and ginger gently for a few minutes Add salt, garam masala chili and lemon juice Mix in prepared potato and sizzle for 2 - 3 minutes Remove from heat and allow to cool Prepare parathas as above but add a tablespoonful of mixtue to centre of each round after first rolling out. |
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05 Mar 07 - 08:58 AM (#1986818) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: maeve Pan Haggerty There were several other hits when I googled, but this is the source for the one I posted. countess- Your Paratha recipe sounds good. Where is it from? |
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05 Mar 07 - 09:08 AM (#1986828) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Savitri Chowdhari's Indian Cooking (pub. André Deutsch 1954/Pan 1977) ISBN 0 330243659 |
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05 Mar 07 - 09:16 AM (#1986837) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave Unless this music is more widely known about, enthused about and shared about, then it may well begin to die out with the present generation. What a strange self-obsessed comment. Let me tell you that Cecil Sharp believed that the music was dying out. That was 1901 and he rushed around collecting folk songs to try and catch the songs before they died out. Alfred Williams who collected and wrote "Folk Songs of the Upper Thames" wrote in 1923. Here is the quote: "The songs themselves ....are practically defunct. There is no need to revive them to do so in fact would be impossible". When two societies merged in 1931/2 it was because it was believed there was little left to collect. Peter Kennedy rushed around with a tape recorder because he believed these songs were disappearing. People were collecting new material in the 1970's. Gordon Halls' mother with an amazing repertoire was never recorded. Gordon had a repertoire of 200+ songs and he was not "discovered" until the 1970's. I personally discovered a previously unknown singing tradition in 2001. We still sing traditional songs in Sheffield at shepherd's meets for example. There are dozens of young enthusiastic young people who make their own music in sessions. Sheffield (Britain's fourth largest city) hardly has a traditional style folk club in the town but there is music in two or three places virtually every night of the week. There are two courses for folk music performance at degree level and also post-graduate stuff too. I could go on............. Lizzie what you should have written was: "In the world in which I live it looks as if folk music might die without me spreading the word and people listening to me. After all I have a wide experience and a great depth of knowledge about this, despite people telling me I haven't". |
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05 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM (#1986851) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Apologies Lizzie - you're right. Without you, no one would know about any of the artists you've given your "support" to. Tell me - have The Demon Barbers and CBS put pen to paper yet to thank you for saving their moribund careers? These people are professionals, lizzie. They know what they're doing. Coope Boyes and Simpson are doing brilliantly in a "smallish" world, because, to be perfectly honest, unaccompanied harmony singing is not for everyone - not even all folkies. My ex-husband, for one, who likes a lot of popular folk and listens regularly to Mike Harding, used to leave the room if I put them on. Horses for courses. You can't MAKE people like something just becasue you think it's good. "The younger people in the folk world, I think, struggle to get their names out there, because of the ridiculous attitude that persists to this day, of having to have been on the circuit for at least 10 years or more before you're taken seriously etc..." Don't talk complete rubbish, Lizzie. Jackie Oates. Lisa Knapp. Jim Causley. James Reynard. Kris Drever. Park Bench Social Club. Bodega. Mawkin. Do I have to go on? Cause I could. The scene is full of young performers at the moment who get gigs, festival slots and radio airplay (though not necessarily Mike Harding). If anything, the people usually complaining about not being able to get a look-in are the ones who have been doing the club circuit for 10 or 20 years or more and feel they've never been given the opportunities to progress into the mainstream. You keep trying to convert people one at a time, Lizzie. Go for your life. But be realistic about the impact you have on these artists' success. So what if Sidmouth hasn't got The Demon Barbers this year? It may be the only festival in YOUR world, but there are over 300 folk festivals in the UK. And the Demons will be programmed at several of them. They played Sidmouth 2 years ago, and no doubt will play it again. To be successful, a fesitval has to have a sufficient variety and rotation of guests each year to maintain the interests of repeat attenders. Not every one wants to see the same bands every year. And most people don't just go to the festival that happens to take place in their home town - they travel, and spend a lot of money, and a festival has to keep doing new things in order to both keep old punters and attract new ones. |
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05 Mar 07 - 09:59 AM (#1986885) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Reference your recipe above.... Where can I purchase "Potiates?" Is this some sort of religious conversion? At least you're not serving up recipes for Tripe.... |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:04 AM (#1986891) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie .....Unlike someone else. |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:29 AM (#1986913) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Potiates? Well, they're illegal in London you know but what you need to do is go to Green Lanes quite late in the evening. Can't tell you exactly where or those Mudelves will mod me off. It's that shop that's painted green and yellow opposite Harringay Green Lanes station. Just sidle in and pretend to be admiring the chervil until it's quiet and then whisper surreptiously 'Oi, mate, got any potiates?' You'll be hustled into the back and probably frisked. Then you'll be shown a cage with fierce-looking rodents snarling and snapping at the bars. You only need two or three. Choose the ones you want, they'll be lifted out by assistants wearing gauntlets and body armour and dropped into a vat of boiling, Lebanese non-virgin oil (contaminated no doubt with silicon). When dead, take home and cook as instructed. |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:31 AM (#1986915) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish >>The Demon Barbers and CBS put pen to paper yet to thank you for saving their moribund careers?<< The Demon Barbers were kind enough to give me some of their 'artist's free tickets' to Beautiful Days last year actually Ruth. Those tickets covered being able to see any artists, for the entire day, I should point out. I raced over to the main arena when they were on and stood there riveted with the rest of the crowd! SUPERB DAY! You can read what happened in my Demons, Diamonds and Disbelief Blog right here, on my Myspace page, first blog....if you should want to of course. ;0) My daughter and I had the most lovely day that day all thanks to the kindness of Damien, Bryony and all the others. DEMONS DIAMONDS & DISBELIEF And yes, Lester did thank me, at Sidmouth, for the Folkwaves thread on Radio 2 and for the fun we used to have on there and the interest it generated. The people who I have had the good fortune to meet in the folk world have all been extremely lovely. Those people, to me, are the 'real' folk world. They are not bitter, high and mighty, bitchy, unpleasant, spiteful, nor do they consider themselves to be better than anyone else or know-it-alls either. They are warm and welcoming, kind and caring. I have admiration for them all and I thoroughly enjoy writing about them all too. I will also continue to write about them as well. Folkiedave....thank you for writing what you feel I *should* have written, but I write what I choose to write. Never do I write, or do, as people dictate I should. You are free to interpret my words or twist them, as you deem appropriate to your view of me. But if it's all the same to you, I'll just carry on the way I've always done... And that is simply being me and loving the music. Please feel free though, to write in whatever way you all so choose, I'll not fill in your words for you. Thanks Lizzie :0) |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:37 AM (#1986923) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Don't think anybody paid to get into Beautiful Days. Comps were 10 a penny (as it were). |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:37 AM (#1986925) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer That's right, Lizzie. They're all ever so grateful for your single-handed propping up of their careers. *sigh* |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:51 AM (#1986949) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Hey Countess. I don't live very far away from that road... Discretion. Point taken. It's a dangerous street. I've been told that the smaller and faster they are (ie, much harder to catch), the more succulent. I feel an expidition coming on. Knowing the area well, are there any other dangers I should be aware of? At my age, I can't run so fast. Also,after having been lightly killed, do the "Pots" (as I like to call them) last for long in the fridge, or is it best to freeze them? any suggestions for a marnade perhaps? Thanks for your informed knowledge. It means a lot to me. Can't wait to incorparate them in your menu. Yummy |
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05 Mar 07 - 11:20 AM (#1987002) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Yes, of course it's insulting to Damien, but they're not bothered about that, all they're bothered about is being as vitriolic as possible. Funny how some parts of the folk world are so welcoming and such fun, whilst others are so vindictive and miserable isn't it? I'm glad I'm with the Welcoming and Fun side though. I'll leave the others to froth at the mouth. Lizzie :0) |
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05 Mar 07 - 11:21 AM (#1987006) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Insulting to Damien? Why? It's a whole festival, not just The Demons' performance. oh, by the way...hi lizzie! *waves at "guest" * |
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05 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM (#1987057) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Alec Maeve that is excellent.Thank you. Countess,it certainly sounds as though Pan Haggerty & Panacklety are regional variations on the same theme. |
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05 Mar 07 - 11:59 AM (#1987063) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer no, of course not Lizzie. Which is why you're simply some anonymous guest. Right...Damien is tightfisted because he gave a fan a ticket for free - lordy, the logic here is about to make me go cross-eyed. I would assume that the contrary is true - he must have been very generous indeed with those tickets for Lizzie to have ended up with one. |
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05 Mar 07 - 12:10 PM (#1987079) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo These potiates are Venezualan marsupials with sharp claws, big teeth and they are very, very vicious. So you have to make sure they are properly and not just lightly dead and you should do this by poking them with a stick. If they twitch, just leave them a while longer but watch out for reflex action from their teeth. Fill in the time by consuming any other purchases you might have made in Green Lanes (fast running may be necessary) and think about ingredients for the marinade. Garlic, ginger and chilis, finely chopped, and olive oil from somewhere olives are growing nowadays (I think this includes polar regions), or if funds are short, used engine oil will be fine. Best to use straight away after several hours of marinading, but if required, they can be kept in the freezer. They don't take up much space, especially if they've been spatchcocked first and stacked in a pile behind the frozen peas. |
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05 Mar 07 - 12:21 PM (#1987099) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer I'm not sure I approve of the recommended treatment of the potiates prior to cooking. Is all this poking and dropping in oil strictly necessary? I mean, I'm as carniverous as they come, but I don't see the point of gratuitous cruelty to my supper. |
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05 Mar 07 - 12:36 PM (#1987119) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Er...sorry Ruth I realise that you think every 'Guest' is me...but it isn't. Methinks I is starting to see The Green-Eyed Monster peeping over your shoulder! Chuckle....... ;0) |
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05 Mar 07 - 12:36 PM (#1987122) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Thanks countess. Anybody else out there have a recipe for "Potiates" Particulatly interested in the rather rarer "Charlotte variety?" More recipes please. R (Spatchcocking sounds like fun) |
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05 Mar 07 - 12:47 PM (#1987138) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Ralph purely as a matter of interest, what would you think of people who took over a Nic Jones thread in the way that some, including yourself, have on here? Anyone have any recipes for Hypocrite Pie at all? I've heard it's a very popular dish in a very small part of the folk world. :0) |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:01 PM (#1987154) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish - PM Date: 05 Mar 07 - 10:31 AM Folkiedave....thank you for writing what you feel I *should* have written, but I write what I choose to write. Never do I write, or do, as people dictate I should. You are free to interpret my words or twist them, as you deem appropriate to your view of me. But if it's all the same to you, I'll just carry on the way I've always done... That's very brave of you Lizzie - it results in you being banned off the BBC board. As Mr. Punch says - "that's the way to do it!!" It also leaves people like me that you know little of that which you talk. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:12 PM (#1987171) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,, not Lizzie :-) I could litter my note with smileys and string you along, Ruth, but indeed I am not Lizzie. I don't even live near her. I am someone you know vaguely, and who actually likes you and admires you for your work. But fair is fair, I thought, hence my intervention. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:13 PM (#1987174) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Ralphie might have difficulty in treating the potiates so cruelly, he's like that, But I don't think he's have very much hesitation in pulling off the Cornish Crab's nippers and dousing her in boiling oil. Not a tasty dish but a job well done. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:17 PM (#1987177) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,fercryingoutloud nice one. more adult behavior. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:22 PM (#1987182) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Jeri Look - I have a cookie! Listen, you need to know how this looks. I typed a reply, then though I should be nicer. Then, I figured I shouldn't worry too much about being nice since you just aren't people who have the skills to appreciate that. Y'all are as vicious as a pack of rabid dogs and deserve each other. I (and others) have to endure this petty, vindictive sniping, the bullying, taunting and the self absorbed lack of consideration for any other readers outside your little circle of mutual abuse, if I dare open one of these threads. You can have your squabbles, but I really wish you didn't wipe them all over the rest of us. I'm really glad I'm not likely to run into any of you. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:25 PM (#1987184) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo My observation, Guest above, was inspired by madlizzie dragging the name of Nic Jones into her entirely ridiculous and pointless excuse for an argument. This is, by any stretch of the imagination, wholly unforgiveable. Besides, those potiates are exceptionally vicious and, while no punishment is bad enough for them, something far worse must be dreamed up for the Cornish mouth from which nothing of value ever emanates. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:32 PM (#1987186) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo And could the newly-arrived swarm of 'Guests' kindly bear in mind that this read is about recipes. That means 'how to cook things'. Not 'how to manufacture apologies for a jumped-up, know-nothing, poisonous troll. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:38 PM (#1987194) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Jeri Thanks, GUEST. I read it before it was zapped. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM (#1987196) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Enough of the shit-storm then, it's catching my lamb! |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:41 PM (#1987198) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate "I'm really glad I'm not likely to run into any of you." Ah but Jeri, how do you know that? ..................................................................... ".. purely as a matter of interest, what would you think of people who took over a Nic Jones thread in the way that some, including yourself, have on here?" Lizzie,you asked for a recipe for Hypocrite Pie - so, first take one hypocrite........................................................... you have quite frequently taken over threads which had been proceeding in a very straightforward, serious and interesting manner, and littered them with your smilies, and inane links to Myspace pages, or websites with no thought to what the actual intent or content of the thread was. The words "pot" "kettle" and "black" spring very much to mind.... As with most of your allegations, the principle culprit is actually yourself - but it seems that you can't pluck out the mote in your own eye. Truth to tell I've been finding the recipes much more interesting and far more entertaining than the majority of the other postings you have placed on this thread! I suspect the words "sense of humour" have no meaning with you. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:47 PM (#1987202) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo SPATCHCOCKED CHARLOTTE POTIATES 1 kilo pack of Charlotte potiates (reduced or twoferone @ Sainsburys 1 steamroller Place in line on ground Start up steamroller Go forwards over potiates (Plotline nicked from The Archers, an everyday story of how to flavour milk with swedes) |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:48 PM (#1987205) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Oh heck George - all of a sudden that lamb doesn't sound quite as enticing. Any way of resurrecting the dish and restoring it to pristince condition again??? |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:54 PM (#1987220) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Back to Greek Easter: KOKORETSI: When you got the lanb from the butcher, you should also have asked for its offal and intestines, separately. Take two buckets full of water. Stick the small intestines in one bucket, slosh them, empty the water and refill and repeat 2-3 times till the water runs clear. Take a large knitting needle and use it to turn each piece of the intestine inside out. (I know that theoretically it should be all one piece, but it is delicate and can break) As you turn each piece, put it in the 2nd bucket. When you finished turning them, repeat the whole process from the start (slosh, empty and refill 2-3 times, then turn back to normal and drop into the first bucket - which you have filled with fresh water). Cover the bucket with the intestine and put aside. Clean the lungs, liver, spleen and kidneys and cut them to plum size. Season very well with salt, pepper and oregano. Using a long skewer (4 foot or so, thickness of a knitting needle), thread the pieces on, alternating the organs as it were, and pack them TIGHT. When you're done, take the washed intestines, and wrap very well and tight around the pieces of offal on the skewer, again and again thill the whole thing is trussed in intestine. Tie the end securely, and season again the outside of your construction. Put the skewer on supports over a medium BBQ fire (not too close) and turn fast for 30 minutes, then slow down and continue turning for another 45-60 minutes, basting with olive oil. Cut pieces off the skewer onto a plate, pour yourself a glass of ouzo and enjoy. This is one of the side dishes on Greek Easter Sunday, as it clearly gets cooked well before the lamb is finished. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:54 PM (#1987221) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Sorry Countess but "Go forwards over potiates" - don't you need some special protective gear for that... I understood that they could be somewhat dangerous when cornered? I'm also concerned about the overall end effectI thought that they had armoured scales ... doesn't it make for a rather lumpy effect? Wouldn't you need a good lump hammer as well? Re previous post "pristince" - a definite culinary technique, of course! |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:56 PM (#1987224) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Nah, I had the lamb covered, it's safe, I used one of Bernard Matthews' sheds. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:59 PM (#1987226) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Well, guestnotlizzie, if fair is fair perhaps you'll pm me and tell me who you are. And then I can explain the particular transgressions that have led us to such a nasty place. The idea that I was insulting Damien on any level is frankly laughable. By the way, I'm not going to be asking for George's shit-covered lamb recipe. |
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05 Mar 07 - 01:59 PM (#1987227) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Phew - nothing to worry about except bird flu then! That's a relief! |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:02 PM (#1987230) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Countess - I've just been having a think about the recipe for Charlotte Potiates - is there an essential difference in the flavour if the Potiates are actually full price and not reduced or twoferone? |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:04 PM (#1987233) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo No, these are of the Charlotte variety. And a steam roller is built like a Chieftain (get the 'music' allusion, though that is somewhat debateable) tank these days. It might be a bit much for the internal organs, though, now that Goerge has mentioned them. Potiate livers can be conserved as a delicacy and made into paté (can't be arsed to remember how to do an 'a circonflex'). But you do need rather a lot of them. |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:12 PM (#1987238) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Look, I wiped it, good as new, Ruth! (shouts) Lamb onna stick! Getyerlambonnastick 'ere! Pound a stick, and I'm cuttin' me own throat, I tell ya! (Terry Pratchett has a lot to answer for) |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:14 PM (#1987241) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Sorry George (or should I call you Goerge from now on?)- but it HAS to be dear old sausageinnabun in that case... have you got any lamb and mint ones??? |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:28 PM (#1987260) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Well I'm normally quite fussy about the provenance of my food, but for a quid, who can argue? I'll take two. That's supper sorted. |
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05 Mar 07 - 02:52 PM (#1987290) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Sparticus George, that recipe for KOKORETSI sounds offal! |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:01 PM (#1987300) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer don't you mean offally good? |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:05 PM (#1987301) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Sorcha Sounds like haggis to me......ducks and runs. |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:07 PM (#1987306) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo If that Guest was actually from Sparta he might have managed to call himself Spartacus. Offal kebabs? Yummy with plenty of ouzo. |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:26 PM (#1987326) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Blowzabella I'm having haggis for my tea tonight - just t hought I'd mention it. |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:30 PM (#1987330) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Sparticus The "tic" is a medical condition countess. If the potiates actually come from the ground you might have managed to call them potatoes. |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:47 PM (#1987345) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo My cat caught a tick once. Methoprene got rid of it. (The tick, not the cat). Try it. Potiate: a vicious Venezuelan marsupial. Why don't people read the thread? |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:12 PM (#1987362) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave You know that is one of the things I like about Mudcat............ You read the threads and you learn so much. Well most people do........ |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:21 PM (#1987373) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer My daughter has been wanting a pet for some time. She now has her heart set on a potiate. Does anyone know if they can be domesticated? |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:36 PM (#1987383) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Blowzabella If you are considering getting a potiate as a pet, please consider going to a reputable rescue centre, rather than buying from a breeder. Give a mistreated potiate a second chance for a forever home. |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:37 PM (#1987385) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo domesticated Isn't that something those Greeks drink? George? Get her a tamagotchi. |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:41 PM (#1987392) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne and remember - a potiate is not just for Christmas - they can be enjoyed for an Easter dinner too :) |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:43 PM (#1987394) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Sound advice, Blowzabella. Do they need to be de-fanged and de-clawed before being introduced to a domestic environment? |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:48 PM (#1987410) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Blowzabella I would suggest so - unless you are an experienced handler - but the definite de-ing that needs doing is to prevent pots (the collective terms for a group of young) of unwanted potiates ... if you follow me. |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:53 PM (#1987416) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer I see...yes. I need to find a vet who specialises in neutering Venezuelan marsupials. A tall order in Lincolnshire. |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:54 PM (#1987419) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne and don't forget the potti training ....... |
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05 Mar 07 - 04:54 PM (#1987420) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne Ruth - 5ft is "tall" in Lincolnshire ! |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:08 PM (#1987439) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Never mind the Venezuelan potiates - what about the Swaziland cross variety - a much gentler and sophisticated beast, with delicate markings ,and no need to de-fang. Evolution has worked such wonders with them ! Safe with children ... well nearly... but good guard potiates as well. You never need to worry about mad intruders with them - just don't give them water after midnight! |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:20 PM (#1987454) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate It is, of course, a little known fact that the name of the potiate is derived from the Italian verb "to prune". Although the beasts are principally thought of as carnivores, the long fangs were originally used for herbivorous purposes, and they were kept in smallish herds in order to keep the grass down in the Venezuelan meadows - which in turn provided them with that succulent grass fed flavour when the Venezuelan farmers turned to breeding them for meat. |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:31 PM (#1987469) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralph Jordan Qoute from Ms Cornish (aka Mrs Route) "Ralph, purely as a matter of interest, what would you think of people who took over a Nic Jones thread in the way that some, including yourself, have on here? Anyone have any recipes for Hypocrite Pie at all?" Liz. I have been warned not to respond to your posting. But, I can't resist a little repost. All I can say is that you are not worthy to even speak the name of Nic Jones..... Do you know him?? Have you ever heard his work?? Didn't think so.... You can have a dig at me and others, but don't take Nics name in vain. Who do you think you are? Some sort of valiant knight, fighting the good fight on behalf of you little friends to keep Old England English???? Nic, even 25 years on, has more talent and humanity in his little finger than you have in your whole body. Life,Get,A.....re arrange. Not Big, Not Clever. Stop It, and Go Away. I normally say Regards at this point. But, tonight, I can't. When I come to play At Sidmouth Fest this August, I'd keep out of my way, if I were you. Ralph Jordan |
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05 Mar 07 - 10:52 PM (#1987705) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Sorcha Folks, she hasn't gotten it. She doesn't get it. She never will get it. My personal response to her is...I'm outta her. If ya'll do the same she'll have to talk to herself. How utterly boring. Let's let her do that for a bit, eh? Smilie Pie Take 3 million smilies. Mince fine. Lard well with pork fat. Fry several tear inducing onions in fake butter. Garlic optional. Mix with some flower. Slap between hands til shown well. Add plastic flower seeds to suit. Bake in a Sidmouth oven (a Whitby will work in a pinch) til nearly burnt, turn out for the masses. They shall natter about it for yonks. |
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06 Mar 07 - 12:19 AM (#1987755) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Sorcha, I fear you're right. Of course she won't get it. But well said. While you're at it though, bake a nicer cake for Ralphie. One that says 'Congratulations'. And thanks from us all. |
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06 Mar 07 - 02:48 AM (#1987808) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer It's a well-known fact that the Swaziland-cross potiate's principle food source is the Smilie pie. Sorch, is there any chance you could ship a few post haste? We take delivery of the new addition to our family later on today. *beams proudly* Can't wait to meet the little darling! |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:01 AM (#1987815) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer "Ruth - 5ft is "tall" in Lincolnshire !" Come and visit, C - you'll be a giant! :D |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:53 AM (#1987872) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Well Ralph, At least your words are there for everyone to see. I'm very glad I didn't say them. As always you've done nothing but attack me. I've no idea why you suddenly changed from being 'Jolly Ralph' to this one, but I prefer you as you used to be way back. Use your words to wound if that's what you think words are for. Personally I should think that Nic Jones would be ashamed of those words of yours above. I know other people who are also very close to Nic, and they never would dream of using words like that to me....or indeed to anyone else. I'd suggest you start putting more love into your soul than hatred. And that goes for your pals too. Why, when you kept putting similar messages to that on the BBC, you have been allowed to remain on there, whilst I've been banned, despite the fact that not once did I respond to you 'in kind' or should that be 'in unkind' I've no idea...... But, that is the way of the BBC these days. I wish you well Lizzie |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:02 AM (#1987877) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,The Hackney Martian Fan Perhaps it's because Ralphie says it once, Lizzie says it ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Qeb?zog |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:08 AM (#1987883) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave I am tending towards starting to think that I might somehow get around to the idea that I agree with Sorcha on this. |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:34 AM (#1987907) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate "Well Ralph, At least your words are there for everyone to see." And I suspect that's what you intended, wasn't it Lizzie? You're very adept at picking on points which mean something to your target, and then pushing the button, standing back and waiting to see what happens. "I'm very glad I didn't say them." But you engineered them and deserved them! "As always you've done nothing but attack me" Most untrue. It takes a lot of provoking to result in an outburst like that... and you do do a lot of that, don't you! "I'd suggest you start putting more love into your soul than hatred. And that goes for your pals too." Heed your own words - oh and by the way, you keep referring to "Ralphie and his pals", as though they come as a ready made item and that Ralph is the "leader of the pack". Totally ridiculous! Before you started having a go at quite a few of us individually I don't think we knew each other or knew OF each other - and indeed some of us still don't. Now back to the potiates.... |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:51 AM (#1987918) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,The Hackney Martian Fan Potiates? We have them where I come from, delicious grated with a little Flavian pobble bean and baked in a slow oven for 4 days. 3 potiates in their jackets (unless the jacket is tweed, in which case, peel carefully, VERY carefully). 1 gudge of Flavian pobble beans, shelled. 1 thermo-nuclear device. Prepare the pobble beans in the usual way, but instead of flaying them, grate them over a bowl of soapy water. Wash and grate the potiates, simmer in their own juices and when slightly brown, add the pobble beans. Place in a flameproof bunker and bury bunker under several thousand gudges of soil and rubble. Add the thermo-nuclear device. After 4 days, dig out your bunker and your potiates will be ready. Enjoy. Qeb?zog |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:24 AM (#1987947) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate Sorry HMF - sounds a rather difficult recipe to follow. For starters, they don't have any thermo-nuclear devices in my local Sainsbury's - would really HOT chilli powder do instead?? |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:28 AM (#1987951) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,The Hackney Martian Fan I suppose the chilli powder might work. Or try Morrisons, they'll sell almost anything. Qeb?zog |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:45 AM (#1987958) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Lizzie Cornish Ralph, Diane and Ruth all know each other. Ralph admitted to 'ganging up' going on, on the BBC thread...the David Gilmore one for your information DA. Also, I did not engineer anything, merely put the question to Ralph. I like to talk about artists that I like to talk about, and I have a right to...as does anyone else. I have never interrupted any of Ralph's threads about Nic, or anyone else.... However, as I said to Dave earlier...you are at liberty to take my words, twist them and use them for your own spinning tactics. I actually wanted Ralph to answer my question, that's all. And the question I asked was: "Ralph, purely as a matter of interest, what would you think of people who took over a Nic Jones thread in the way that some, including yourself, have on here?" He chose not to answer that question at all, but to personally attack me, yet again. It was ENTIRELY his choice to do that. I'd suggest, once more, that he works out what his, imo, obsessive problem with me is and sorts it out as this behaviour will end up making him poorly. I will not stop writing about the people I want to write about, despite Ralph Jordan throwing a complete wobbly every time I dare to mention the name of Show of Hands or Seth Lakeman. Get over it guys. And then...realise that no amount of your bullying will get to me. You only serve to show yourselves up in the eyes of those who read messageboards, but never write on them. "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." - Eleanor Roosevelt NONE of you have my consent. Lizzie |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:00 AM (#1988079) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralph Jordan Lizzie. Would love to react. But I choose not to. Ralph |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:03 AM (#1988082) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Cranny Faddock SouthWestern Troll Pudding. Ingredients : first things that come into your head. Preparation: pour everything into a large bowl and stir and stir and stir. (If being filmed, ensure that hands are prominently shown). Cooking: place bowl in oven for as long as you like. Pudding can be reheated. Servings: a little goes a long way and can be doled out to serve hundreds if not thousands. Warning - this meal can make many people feel nauseous so toilet facilities must be provided. |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:14 AM (#1988093) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie OK.Liz. Here we go go. If I had started a thread re Mr Jones, and it had been hijacked in a culinary manner. Bonza!! We'd have got a lot of recipes. Hurrah!! Sorry, haven't mentioned SOH, Seth etc. Best leave now.....not wanted on voyage. |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:22 AM (#1988103) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe "Cover the bucket with the intestine" Hey George, isn't that stretching it a bit? |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:26 AM (#1988107) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST Too right, I meant "...containing the intestine..."! You cover it with an old sack. |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:28 AM (#1988109) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: George Papavgeris Whoops, dropped the biscuit... |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:50 AM (#1988127) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe It's OK - 2 minute rule... "You cover it with an old sack" Preferably not the one your wide is wearing today.... |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:51 AM (#1988129) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger >dropped the biscuit... Is that actually part of the recipe then George?? I suppose you would need something like breadcrumbs to pad it out a bit, but does biscuit crumb work in the same way?? |
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06 Mar 07 - 09:58 AM (#1988137) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe er, I didn't mean that your wife is wide, George... Reminds me - this IS a music forum... Mt wife is wide, I cannot get oer Neither have I wings to fly But first it bent and then it broke So did my love prove false to me I reached my finger into some soft bush Thinking the fairest flower to find But not so deep as the love I'm in I know not if I sink or swim I pricked my finger to the bone And left the fairest flower behind But love grows old and waxes cold And fades away like the morning dew or something like that... |
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06 Mar 07 - 10:30 AM (#1988171) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Hey - this is a recipe thread!!! :-) |
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06 Mar 07 - 01:01 PM (#1988360) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer No it's not - it's a pets thread. Or potiate has arrived! He's called Steve. He's the cutest thing! But the teeth are a little scary... |
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06 Mar 07 - 01:19 PM (#1988389) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne awww Ruth . . . . . he's . . . . . .sorta sweet |
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06 Mar 07 - 01:57 PM (#1988430) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Canadienne - I think you're mistaken... that's not like the potiate that I was shown earlier on today... looks to me as if someone has sold you a pup!!! Ruth - I trust that you are going to be careful when getting to know Steve.. I reckon he's likely to be a bit scared in his new home to start with, and you know how when they're apprehensive they can be a little irrational... make sure you're using padded gloves when feeding him to start with. I'd hate to think of you coming to any harm! |
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06 Mar 07 - 02:01 PM (#1988434) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer OW! OWWWWW! Wait...just get him...back in his cage...there! *sigh* Errr, yes. He's...sort of sweet. He's certainly, erm, making his mark...mind you, that Vanish Oxi gets most stains out... Oh. That spot in the corner where he did his first whoopsie seems to be smoking....and the carpet would appear to be disintegrating... |
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06 Mar 07 - 02:02 PM (#1988438) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Pip Archer But, I love Steve. XD. |
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06 Mar 07 - 02:05 PM (#1988443) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,ActuallySteve'sOverHere Lizzie, get with the program. This thread is no longer about you. (Though I'm sure you'll do your very best to change that) It's all about Steve. |
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06 Mar 07 - 02:28 PM (#1988461) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Ruth - I'm just a bit worried about the carpet now... if his whoopsie has that effect are you sure that you know what you're taking on?? And why is Josh being so silent - have you seen him in the last half an hour or so??? |
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06 Mar 07 - 02:50 PM (#1988488) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Peace I always wonndered what a great big pile of horseshit would look like. After reading this thread, I now know. |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:04 PM (#1988505) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Horseshit? No, a potiate is not of the equine genus. After reading this thread you now know how to cook lots of worthwhile things. And seen madlizzie kicked into touch. What more could you want? |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:27 PM (#1988534) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST OOOOWWWWWWWW!!!! *sounds of scuffling punctuated by occasional growls* |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:34 PM (#1988543) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Look at that! The little bugger even ate my cookie! You wouldn't believe what i've just gone through to get it back... *removes saliva-sodden impregnable asbestos gauntlets* |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:36 PM (#1988548) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Scrump Whatever you lot are drinking, gimme a pint of summat else - yer stark starin' mad, the lot o' yez! |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:40 PM (#1988549) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo It's pot(iate)een. Obviously. |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:44 PM (#1988554) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Ok Ruth - so we now know that domesticated potiates eat cookies - but WHERE'S JOSHIE? And how did Steve get out of his cage....are you sure those bars can hold him??? Scrump - it takes one to know one!! |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:48 PM (#1988560) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie Oh go on Bruce you must have! G. |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:49 PM (#1988561) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Who the hell is Joshie? OOOWWW! *begins to weep gently* |
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06 Mar 07 - 03:59 PM (#1988577) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Who the hell is Joshie? Ruth, now I really AM worried ... is there something noxious in those fumes that he's been giving off... how could you forget your own SON??? Is this creature all he really seems? Just to remind you |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:00 PM (#1988580) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Joshie is/was your son. Has the potiate eaten him? What about Ben? Why don't I have a life outside of Ambridge? ** begins to weep not so gently** |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:09 PM (#1988590) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Oh, THAT Joshie. He and Ben are out in the barn with Deeyyyyvid, up to their vulnerable little elbows in the engine of the Massey. It's father-son bonding. Deeeyyyyvid hasn't seen the potiate yet (you should hear how "potiate" sounds in my accent - it's hilarious). Actually, I'm getting a bit fed up of being constantly raked over the coals for not getting shagged in an Oxford Travelodge. I might just see if the potiate fancies a go at Deeeyyyyvid's Hassett Hills free range chipolata... |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:10 PM (#1988594) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Peace "Oh go on Bruce you must have!" Not as deep as this. |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:17 PM (#1988603) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Blowzabella Dum de dum de dum de dum dum de dum de dum dum ...... |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:29 PM (#1988613) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo I thought it was Tom who dealt in the free-range sausage trade. Or maybe I just missed an episode. |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:31 PM (#1988614) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: John MacKenzie How are you defining sausage CR? G. |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:34 PM (#1988616) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo C;mon Giok, you must have heard all those product placement ads. (Paid for with our licence fees . . . ) |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:42 PM (#1988626) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave Sorry Ruth but it is no wonder you didn't get shagged in the Oxford Travelodge. Sam was in the Randolph where they do do flowers in the room - and champagne on tap. Not a thing you get in Travelodges. Allegedly. I am not sure if you can order potiates. |
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06 Mar 07 - 04:54 PM (#1988646) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer The Randolph is oooooverrreyyytid. Allegedly. |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:02 PM (#1988656) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Borchester Echo Oh yes, it definitely is. Went there once to report a strike against poverty wages and for union recognition. My camera crew got thrown out. Don't think they got champagne either, at any rate I didn't. |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:13 PM (#1988671) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Folkiedave I am inclined to agree what you say about the Randolph. But that is where Sam was waiting........ |
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06 Mar 07 - 05:34 PM (#1988695) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Now look.... what happened to the recipes... I know we're all extremely excited that Ruth has managed to take on a tame (?? potiate and is currently whipping it into shape... but food people, food.... |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:26 PM (#1988756) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Ummm, I reckon I'll be posting a potiate recipe quite soon... |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:27 PM (#1988760) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Liz the Squeak Had tea in the Randolph once... just the once. LTS |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:28 PM (#1988762) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Liz the Squeak 300!! AND another person who's heard of the Martians! How cool is that?! LTS |
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06 Mar 07 - 06:51 PM (#1988787) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Hey Liz Hackney Martians????? Naaah. They were never a Housewives Choice! Ralph xx |
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06 Mar 07 - 07:00 PM (#1988800) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Ralphie dear boy ... housewife in the singular... _Housewife's_ choice... if you're using it in the singular.. any Hackney Martina fule kno that!!! |
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06 Mar 07 - 07:01 PM (#1988801) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Or any Hackney Martian... I don't know any Martina's from round that way... do they play tennis in Hackney?? |
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06 Mar 07 - 07:02 PM (#1988802) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Who is Hackney Martina?? Is she attractive? R x |
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06 Mar 07 - 07:03 PM (#1988804) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Is she a friend of the Cambridge Heathen? R x |
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06 Mar 07 - 07:20 PM (#1988829) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Is she attractive - does she SOUND attractive? Anyway, as I said, I've never been acquainted with any Martinas from Hackney. However, the Cambridge Heathen sounds interesting - is he good looking? Does he have a potiate? BTW - anybody yet seen a definitive pikky of a potiate... I'd love to know what Ruth is putting up with... |
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06 Mar 07 - 07:27 PM (#1988848) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Ralphie Countess has 87 variant pictures. Go ask! |
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07 Mar 07 - 03:42 AM (#1989150) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer Spit-roasted Steve 1 Steve, skinned, drawn and scalded briefly in boiling water (this helps to remove any particularly tough bristles, but is also enormously satisfying) breadcrumbs 1 egg 1 handful each of fresh thyme, rosemary and parsley salt and pepper 2 crushed cloves of garlic Mix all ingredients (except Steve) in a large bowl. Ram this stuffing up Steve's arse. Follow with a large skewer. Roast over an open fire, turning constantly. At this point you might like to sing something appropriate, such as "Abide With Me", particularly if your children have formed an emotional bond with Steve. Steve should be served slightly pink, so about 45 minutes of roasting ought to be sufficient. Grub's up! |
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07 Mar 07 - 05:29 AM (#1989223) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger Hey - do we need to ring the RSPCP (Royal Society for the prevention of Cruelty to Potiates)? Is it as tasty as george's lamb? |
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07 Mar 07 - 06:01 AM (#1989238) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer It's bloody lovely. |
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07 Mar 07 - 06:24 AM (#1989249) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne R.I.P Steve |
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07 Mar 07 - 07:34 AM (#1989290) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Surreysinger ROFL! |
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07 Mar 07 - 07:39 AM (#1989294) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe To sweeten him up, rub Steve with Stevia... |
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07 Mar 07 - 08:02 AM (#1989322) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer A fitting tribute, Canadienne...very fitting. *wipes away a small tear* What's for pudding? |
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07 Mar 07 - 09:48 AM (#1989437) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate How's Pip taking this Ruth? I'm now rather concerned for her.. as for pudding, I revert to the idea of Rich Fruit Fool..... BTW- what does potiate (pronounced in the Italianate fashion, of course) taste like?? |
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07 Mar 07 - 10:20 AM (#1989480) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: The Fooles Troupe Hey, just leave me out of it... |
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07 Mar 07 - 10:45 AM (#1989523) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Liz the Squeak So you admit to being rich and fruity do you Fooles?? LTS |
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07 Mar 07 - 11:19 AM (#1989556) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Ruth Archer I don't pronounce it in the Italian fashion - I pronounce it in the Prudhoe fashion. It tastes like chicken. *picks up a spoon and follows Foolestroupe out of the room, whistling nonchalantly* |
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07 Mar 07 - 11:35 AM (#1989573) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Canadienne can't find a fruit fool will some silly vegetables do instead? |
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07 Mar 07 - 12:45 PM (#1989623) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: Liz the Squeak There were three drunken carrots, came from the Isle of Wight? LTS |
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07 Mar 07 - 02:34 PM (#1989732) Subject: RE: Show of Hands (Recipes) From: GUEST,Pip Archer I miss Steve. =[. But I still have the scars to remind me of him. *Sobs* |
