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04 Mar 07 - 12:40 PM (#1985922) Subject: ADD Version: Hi Roger Rum From: Les in Chorlton I came across this song in a Woodcraft Folk Song Book the other day: HI ROGER RUM The was a rich man in the days of Old Methusalem Glory Halleluja, Hi Roger Rum He gave swell dinners to the nobs of Old Jerusalem Glory Halleluja, Hi Roger Rum Hi Roger Rum, Hi Roger Rum Skidel me rink a doddle um Skidel me rink a doddle um Glory Halleluja, Hi Roger Rum or Hi Roger Rum, Hi Roger Rum Oh what a funny un Skin of a spanish onion Glory Halleluja, Hi Roger Rum The second chorus comes from a version by the Oldham Tinkers Does anyone know its origins? |
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04 Mar 07 - 01:15 PM (#1985977) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Fergie Recorded by Barry Gleeson on "Path Across the Ocean" under the mondegreen title "Roy Roger um" you will find it in the DT under the title THE RICH MAN AND THE POOR MAN Fergus |
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04 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM (#1986030) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: GUEST It's a parody on Dives and Lazerus (Child 56) Jim Carroll |
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04 Mar 07 - 03:31 PM (#1986107) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: GUEST,kenny I heard the late Bob Cooney sing this at Aberdeen Folk Club some 30 years ago. He had a book of his songs and poems printed which I still have, I think. I'll look and see if it's in there. "Rosia Rum", I think he used to sing - don't think it means anything in particular. And the song - or at least Bob's version of it - did mention Coca-Cola, which might date it a bit. |
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04 Mar 07 - 04:21 PM (#1986132) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Declan There have been many previous threads on this song. There is a version in the Digitrad database here |
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04 Mar 07 - 04:30 PM (#1986140) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Wolfgang One old thread Wolfgang |
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04 Mar 07 - 04:57 PM (#1986170) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Lighter Well known in the British Army in the Great War. |
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05 Mar 07 - 03:48 AM (#1986589) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Les in Chorlton Thanks that's most helpful. I did try the DIgitrack but asyou can see the variaties of Hi Roger Rum make it tricky. |
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05 Mar 07 - 05:22 AM (#1986657) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: The Vulgar Boatman Also recorded, would you believe, by the Treorchy Male Voice Choir... |
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05 Mar 07 - 12:49 PM (#1987143) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Les in Chorlton Their seems to be about 5 or 6 threads about this song but none find an origin. They are all quite close in the words and the story is straightforward. The consistancy suggest a recent (early 20C?) origin. Could all the threads be pulled together? |
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17 Apr 11 - 08:05 AM (#3136788) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: mikesamwild I just played the tune on the anglo concertina in G in Digtrad and it sounds like John Kanaka shanty. I remember Sean Cannon singing something like it and I heard Bob Cooney my dad Sam's Spanish Civil War comrade sing it Good marching song in 4/4 I found myself going into Ten Green Bottles and Hanging on the old barbed wire. Ripe for parodies. Quite a few of the Brigaders had fought in WW1 |
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09 May 20 - 04:41 AM (#4051368) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: GUEST,Bob Connor down under, Hi Folks. The version I heard originally was only a tiny bit like yours. It was an Australian Army poem with a sung chorus which went. "Oh Roger Rum. Oh Roger Rum. Sligga marig menorium. Oh Roger Rum!" Sung with beery gusto which got worse as the evening wore on. The only verse I can remember is the first one. "So when Roger Rum was just a lad, He did earn a precarious fee. Leading blind whores from the brothel doors, down to the river ,,,,, to pee." Cheers. Regards Bob. |
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09 May 20 - 09:44 AM (#4051411) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: GUEST,kenny I heard Desi Wilkinson singing what I assume was an Irish version of this song at last year's "Jimmy McHugh Memorial Concert" in Glasgow in January. Incidentally, I found Bob Cooney's book of songs and poems - unfortunately, this song is not in it. Only seems to have taken me 13 years to find it and reply. |
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09 May 20 - 10:13 AM (#4051418) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Jim Carroll "what I assume was an Irish version of this song" I'm pretty sure it's an Irish parody of the Child ballad - we have a recording of the singer I was told by an authority, made the song (I have never checked) It's one of several such parodies, Dublin balland, 'Johnny Doyle, is said to be a version of Lord Saltoun and Auchannachie (Child 239) - this is disputed, though I believe it is, at least a parody of it Jim Carroll |
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17 Jan 23 - 02:48 PM (#4162773) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: GUEST,Huw Richards It gets a mention in Gerald Durrell's book 'My family and other animals' - he sings it when out with his Greek professor friend in the countryside of Corfu between the first and second world wars. |
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17 Jan 23 - 05:38 PM (#4162787) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Joe_F I thought it was "Hi, ho, jerum". |
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18 Jan 23 - 04:31 AM (#4162811) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Joe Offer No doubt, Joe, but "Hi Roger Rum" is certainly an interesting variant. |
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19 Jan 23 - 02:00 PM (#4162984) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: r.padgett www.fresnostate.edu › folklore › balladsHi Ho Jerum - California State University, Fresno there was an old man and he lived in Jerusalem, glory halleluja, high roserum was sung by Sean Cannon Ray |
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19 Jan 23 - 03:10 PM (#4162989) Subject: RE: Hi Roger Rum From: Lighter Keighley Snowden, "Barbara West" (1901) p. 24 [ref. to Yorkshire, 1880]: "All the fellows sat up until three o'clock at a social, and had all the good old songs, 'The Old Rogerùm,' 'Jack Hall,' ‘The Fine Old English Gentleman,' 'The Darby Ram,' 'Three Jews went to Jerusalem,' and 'Down in Alabama.'" |