Jerry and others: when I wrote the original post, I had in mind the words in Genesis 3:16-19 (Rev. Standard Version):

"To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return.""

I did not mean anything more than that, and certainly did not want to touch upon the New Testament, which to my mind is another gig entirely.

Hope this clears it up.