>"Success proves anything of quality to a majority" ?

Wishful thinking, Mike. It can be bought and manipulated like anything else. I'm not saying the girls themselves did that - I don't believe they did - but the big biz guns behind them have enough clout and enough to gain to generate quite a lot of mileage. I'm not questioning the band's honesty and sincerity for a minute, but commercial incentives riding on them DO make a difference to how far they go. And a lot of the people on this thread are not sneering at them for being successful, just holding the opinion that what they do is not that amazing. (That nasty blank-Guest post at the beginning just sounds like a stupid troll who can safely be ignored, of course they're not shite or anything remotely resembling it.) But all negative reactions are not driven by jealousy or spite or anything else. These performers just don't float everyone's boat.