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Stringsinger BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p (1845* d) RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p 16 Sep 13


On the Ted Talk, there was laughter after Dawkin's comment about "militant atheism". The point was missed, when Dawkins said "he was not about to preach atheism. He wanted to assure people that it was not what he was going to do. After the comment about "militant atheism" he said, "But that's putting it too negatively".   This "militant atheism" was more of a joke and taken out of context subverted his real message.

"So according to Stringsinger what Mr. Dawkins preaches is not only a religion but Even Dawkins himself does not really believe it."

This statement is not only untrue but convoluted logic. I have never said that what Mr.
Dawkins preaches is a religion. I never said that Mr. Dawkins preached anything so what
I have said is not only taken out of context but my words have been twisted to win an argument.

Grischka, there is nothing here to win. There is no evidence as a basis for an idea of any god. Making any assertions without scientific evidence is a dangerous practice especially if it's used to attack non-belief.

As to the notion of a cult, non-belief defies any cult like qualities whatever because the main idea is to get people to think for themselves, not follow any doctrine. Dawkins is expressing his own ideas which is mostly about people who are science-deniers. Non-belief is not a cult and it is redundant to say this but non-belief is not belief. A cult
depends on a belief system and if you really know about cults they have the following
characteristics.

1. People are punished when they leave the cult.
2. There is a blind obeisance to leaders. (there is none toward Dawkins especially on my part)
3. Past associations with family members or friends not associated with the cult are cut off.
4. Cult people have to be re-programmed.
5. There is an attempt to exploit or berate people who don't quite go along. (Dawkins doesn't do that).

Hence, non-belief is not a cult nor is Dawkins a cult leader.

As to knowledge of science, there are a great many people in belief and non-belief
systems who don't know science and within the scientific community, there are those
who feel that they don't know about science either because it is constantly being
questioned and notions are changed.

""I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." quote by Richard Feynman might easily apply to science in general since it is in constant motion.
But contemporary scientific evidence is all we have to rely on for real assessments about the world. The rest is conjecture.




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