So here's the thing about wind turbines. We've had them big time for a couple of decades. They are far from being a free lunch, as their construction requires massive amounts of energy and raw materials, and we seem to want to give millions of taxpayers' money to already-rich landowners in order to persuade them to give up a few square metres of land per turbine. During that couple of decades, in spite of tens of thousands of evermore powerful turbines springing up, we have not reduced carbon emissions (the very opposite, in fact), and we can't close down a single power station, as we never know when the wind won't blow. What we have from wind is extra energy, not replacement energy. You might like the look of turbines, you might not care if you have one in your back yard, you might not worry if your turbine kills as many birds as your pussycat. But what you do have to do is address their serious lack of success. So let's hear it. And let's make it a rational argument, eh? Not pie-in-the-sky green is good because it's green, ok?