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Steve Shaw BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit (1036* d) RE: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit 30 Jun 16


Well now, let's have a look at some aspects of this "democratic result." The out campaign was predicated on the lie that leaving would drastically reduce immigration. Well it will not. Apart from the fact that we're just as "weak" at controlling the immigration that we CAN control, that from outside the EU, we will probably have hordes of expats coming home when they find that their EU membership advantages are evaporating. All those extra wrinklies to look after!   Poor old Tory-ravaged NHS! Next, a large majority of eligible voters did NOT vote to leave the EU. 52% of those who voted voted to leave. 48% of those who voted voted to stay. Another 28% of the TOTAL ELECTORATE also did NOT vote to leave. This is important because the referendum was extremely lopsided. An in vote could easily have been overturned by another referendum (and it's a good bet that you'd have been calling for one). The out vote, once buttons have been pushed, is irrevocable. That is what I mean by lopsided. I don't remember the out campaign making that clear. I do remember a lot of lies about "controlling our own borders," pretending via a disgusting, racist poster from your hero Farage that refugees, mostly black ones, were the same thing as EU immigrants, and about "taking back control," though the oil companies and the stock markets and the yanks, who "control" us a damn sight more than the EU ever does, didn't seem to get a mention. Very democratic, eh? Your democratic referendum has led to political chaos and a country split down the middle, not to speak of massive uncertainty and loss of confidence in the UK economy. So the campaigns were both predicated on lies and scaremongering. Yes, both. Expert politicians cynically denying the ordinary people the true facts on an extremely complex issue has nothing to do with democracy in my view. One outcome in particular, the crowing by ignoramuses such as akenaton, is ample evidence of that.


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